Discussing why the Bulls will need to trade either Zach Lavine and DeMar DeRozan this offseason
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It’s sad how the one person who steps up night in and night out is the one who is at fault. Bulls fan blame Billy and right next they blame the 25 ppg scorer in demar. SMH, we obviously have no identities and instead of demar going along with that he says “lonzo out? Subpar leader in Billy D? I’m going to step up and score” and that mindset after Zo went down got us into the first round 💯 Thats what DEMAR had to do that doesn’t mean he can’t be a value to the bulls in other aspects.. but obviously Billy D is the Headcoach so likely demar departs, gets used incorrectly, or isn’t used to benefit the other players (like the young guys).. Billy and the front staff not adjusting to lonzo being out is the worst part of being a bulls fan right now… it’s like they had one plan and that was it 😂🤦🏾♂️
Keep both
Zach's knee surgeries and max contract hurts his value. If you get 3 unprotected first round picks from a struggling franchise for LaVine, do it. Trade DeMar for picks or keep him during the rebuild so we have a reason to watch the games.
This all shows how far a lot of Bulls fans are behind compared to people who watch the full league and see modern offensive basketball. This duo wasn’t going to work from Jump Street, but soft white collar Chicago media sold us a bill of goods when it came to the 2021 off-season. Even if Lonzo was healthy, this team would not be an NBA title contender because it lacks the elite talent to get there, the only way that dynamic would change is if a few of these good pieces that didn’t fit got traded for an elite contender.
As a Bulls fan since '86, M.J. spoiled me in a great many ways. One being that I just love it when we have at least one player with elite athleticism. I just love dudes who play above the rim, and that's one reason that Zach is currently my favorite Bull. I would hate to see him traded and lose that wow factor that he can bring at literally any moment with a dunk, or when he has one of those nights when he gets hot from deep. I gree that he has the highest trade value, but I also think that's why we whould keep him around. We've traded D. Rose, later Jimmy (partly inorder to acquire Zach) and now to trade Lavine would really kind of break my heart. It's like the modern Bulls claim to fame is trading away our best player every couple of years, in hopes of finding someone else good enough to trade away again.
You play with both
No they don’t it’s probably gonna e vooch
Zach is the clear keeper…..dmar does not spread the ball and he never want to pass to the center down low….Zack is the better player and shooter….and team player and bro….Demar is not the better player just cuz he hogs all the shots…..JS
Zach is the more complete player with a higher ceiling and is 7 years younger on a brand new deal.
I'm keeping Zach & trade Demar to the Lakers for Mobamba, Lonnie Walker & a 1st round pick.
We went so long with out a star everybody but Zach can go keep our max player
I agree with you on this point that the Bulls should've never prioritize Zach and building a team around him he's not a #1 face of the franchise player he's a #3 on a contending team!!
And to answer your question between Zach and Demar, I would trade Zach first because of the compensation we'll get back, but I hope on draft night the front office dangles both Zach and Demar in some trade talks!!! We are not going anywhere with this core might as well blow it all up!!
Zach is definitely a number two option on a championship team. It reminds me of what denver is, a dominant passing stretch 5 in jokic with a bucket getter in the backcourt in murray filled with dogs in the middle. We are just missing a true number 1 player plus some of those high quality role players
I'ma a pelicans fans I think they should trade cj for Zach lavine
Should have traded demar for someone nice already when he was named an all star
Demar will be the one to go Zach is younger and he is the better player as much as I love demar he isn’t playing at the level he was last season but I don’t know what will happen on the offseason will they run it back with demar on the team next season hopefully lonzo will be back I don’t know
Dude Zach is better if you can’t see that , I do t think you watching basketball the right way. Zach shot better 3s 2s slashes and passes better. You are crazy to say Demar is better.
Trade Zach. We will never win a championship with his max contract on our books
NEITHERRRRR
Would you consider trading both Zach and DeMar AT ALL if part of our return was 5 1st round picks?
Why does one have to go ? They both under a contract how about u improve the teams defence add A + free agent.
Zak is younger but what has shown us is that he is not a winner from wolves days to bulls days.
Absolutely with you in everything you said, I really hope they believe that this season is over because it is.
Trade Zach, for Anfernee Simons and Shaedon Sharpe and 2nd round draft pick
Bye Demar. Thank you for the thrills and your service.
Its not that he is just not a #1. it seems he makes everyone around him worse. As his scoring goes up the rest of the TEAM goes down. It just does. Could a different coach change that? who knows?
Like I've been saying, you gotta trade Zach. We're stuck in purgatory right now and we need draft capital. Lavine is not a player you need to build around to contend for a championship. That player isn't on our team now. We have to make that move and look to the future.
I wish that we could let go Billy Donovan first… after that we can make changes…
Personally, and I know people are gonna scoff at this. But I think you go to AD, probably centered around demar without giving up pat. Demar gets to go to LA. AD doesn't seem happy. There is an Injury risk but I still think if you have a chance to get him you take the shot. He'd solve a lot of weaknesses and give us a bona-fide superstar in his prime and let zach cook. Also think coming back to Chicago may light a fire under him. You guys gotta get off this blow it up rebuild train. The front office ain't doing that after 5 years of shit attendance.
WHAT DO U MEAN HE DOES'NT FIT IN TODAYS NBA !!!!!???? ARE U CRAZI ????? SMFFFFH
I would rather trade DeMar and build around Zach. I have the utmost respect for DeMar's game, but I feel like trading him to a contender would serve him best in his next 2-3 years. It would be in his best interest. I would also trade Vuc.
While we won't ever get a defensive stopper in Zach, as long as he stays healthy, we know that he can be that scorer at the shooting guard spot that we can rely on. His game is modern and he can score on all 3 levels. Just get him a good PG so he doesn't have to bring up the ball so much and cause turnovers. I'm not totally sure what we should do with Lonzo.
Develop PWill, Ayo, Coby, and Dalen Terry. We also need a solid 4 so we can slide PWill to the 3. We also need an athletic defensive minded center who can anchor the defense.