To be clear: i think the answer is both, and the question is actually “what percentage is each of these problems contributing to the issues? Is it 70% Kidd/30% Roster? 50/50?”
I think replacing Kidd is an easier step in the grand scheme than a total roster overhaul, and I don’t have a ton of faith in the front office to “overhaul” much of anything anyways. I think the right coach could maximize the players we have, and maybe eliminate the 3-4 boneheaded decisions that Kidd makes each game.
Players looking lost in crunch time situations is a huge indictment on coaching
Templar_Gus
The Warriors won a championship with a 6’2 guy playing minutes at center last year. Our roster has issues but it’s mostly on Kidd.
adimo1409
I mean second year Kidd been a disaster in each of his stops as a HC
His defensive scheme always gets exposed after being decent year one. He gotta go imo not sure he’ll get fired though unless the mavs miss the playoffs
Dirks_Knee
Roster construction isn’t ideal, but it’s still on the head coach to maximize the tools he has and Kidd just can’t get out of his own way.
On roster construction…
So many on this sub complaining about it are the same suggesting we should trade away every 1st rounder we can when drafting well is the key to having a deeper roster creating more free cap space to land higher impact FA role players. For example, having $20M tied up in Powell/Maxi vs the Griz paying $4M for Tillman/Aldama.
Cacamel
I mean, it’s both.
ArawnAT
Both of them are true.
This is a horribly constructed roster for a team that has deep playoffs aspirations and the coach has exacerbated the issues by his utter incompetence.
FullMetalHero2
How about unrealistic expectations? This just isn’t a good team. Trying to compare to the Warriors is stupid. They built that squad from the ground up and had multiple high draft picks and were able to build around their stars. Most importantly have Veteran leadees that help develop the younger talent. The Mavs dont have that. Mavs refuse to tank and unfortunately even then, don’t draft well or develop young talent. Then they have to try and rely on free agency. With this method, its usually good for a single deep run and doesn’t work for anything long term. So now here we are stuck again fighting tooth and nail to to make it into the playoffs. And to top it off we can’t even be excited about the off-season bc we lack cap room, draft picks and have no real valuable assets. So no matter how much yall hate Kidd a new coach is highly unlikely bc it’s only setting that coach up for the same vicious cycle. Luka may have all the talent in the world but until he steps it up as a real team leader and put in the work and effort. This team isn’t going anywhere.
flameo_hotmon
It’s both, but Kidd is a bigger issue than building around Luka, Kyrie, and Christian Wood
raiderrash
Both things can be true lol
GroundbreakingSir893
As a Laker fan, the last year and half I can completely relate to this
TinFoilRobotProphet
Unfortunately this only points to a massive overachievement last season. It looks like they’re regressing to the mean despite the roster changes
ReasonableLiving5958
Jason Kidd has been pretty bad this year, but the Kyrie trade is by far the worst thing they’ve done this year
Its not coincidence that the Mavs have gotten much worse in general after the trade. People are really overlooking how stupid and bad that trade has been and will be for the Mavs going forward.
niizuma
the correct answer is both are true.
ITZOURTIMENOW
Jason Kidd is not the problem with the mavs, he’s a solid coach that understands the game, but he can’t go out there and play the game for his players. I’m a Luka fan, but he needs to grow the up and start playing the way that’s the team needs him to. Stop arguing every call and start focusing on his strength and conditioning too
LogansGambit
Most of this roster was here last year. Yes Spencer and DFS are gone but even before they left there were major issues. You added freaking Kyrie Irving, and he’s only missed one game in this stretch. On paper now this should be a better team than last year.
The regression of the team when they should’ve been building off of last year is an indictment against the coaching
bloodydingbat
We have huge depth with bigs so it’s definitely the left.
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To be clear: i think the answer is both, and the question is actually “what percentage is each of these problems contributing to the issues? Is it 70% Kidd/30% Roster? 50/50?”
I think replacing Kidd is an easier step in the grand scheme than a total roster overhaul, and I don’t have a ton of faith in the front office to “overhaul” much of anything anyways. I think the right coach could maximize the players we have, and maybe eliminate the 3-4 boneheaded decisions that Kidd makes each game.
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Players looking lost in crunch time situations is a huge indictment on coaching
The Warriors won a championship with a 6’2 guy playing minutes at center last year. Our roster has issues but it’s mostly on Kidd.
I mean second year Kidd been a disaster in each of his stops as a HC
His defensive scheme always gets exposed after being decent year one. He gotta go imo not sure he’ll get fired though unless the mavs miss the playoffs
Roster construction isn’t ideal, but it’s still on the head coach to maximize the tools he has and Kidd just can’t get out of his own way.
On roster construction…
So many on this sub complaining about it are the same suggesting we should trade away every 1st rounder we can when drafting well is the key to having a deeper roster creating more free cap space to land higher impact FA role players. For example, having $20M tied up in Powell/Maxi vs the Griz paying $4M for Tillman/Aldama.
I mean, it’s both.
Both of them are true.
This is a horribly constructed roster for a team that has deep playoffs aspirations and the coach has exacerbated the issues by his utter incompetence.
How about unrealistic expectations? This just isn’t a good team. Trying to compare to the Warriors is stupid. They built that squad from the ground up and had multiple high draft picks and were able to build around their stars. Most importantly have Veteran leadees that help develop the younger talent. The Mavs dont have that. Mavs refuse to tank and unfortunately even then, don’t draft well or develop young talent. Then they have to try and rely on free agency. With this method, its usually good for a single deep run and doesn’t work for anything long term. So now here we are stuck again fighting tooth and nail to to make it into the playoffs. And to top it off we can’t even be excited about the off-season bc we lack cap room, draft picks and have no real valuable assets. So no matter how much yall hate Kidd a new coach is highly unlikely bc it’s only setting that coach up for the same vicious cycle. Luka may have all the talent in the world but until he steps it up as a real team leader and put in the work and effort. This team isn’t going anywhere.
It’s both, but Kidd is a bigger issue than building around Luka, Kyrie, and Christian Wood
Both things can be true lol
As a Laker fan, the last year and half I can completely relate to this
Unfortunately this only points to a massive overachievement last season.
It looks like they’re regressing to the mean despite the roster changes
Jason Kidd has been pretty bad this year, but the Kyrie trade is by far the worst thing they’ve done this year
Its not coincidence that the Mavs have gotten much worse in general after the trade. People are really overlooking how stupid and bad that trade has been and will be for the Mavs going forward.
the correct answer is both are true.
Jason Kidd is not the problem with the mavs, he’s a solid coach that understands the game, but he can’t go out there and play the game for his players. I’m a Luka fan, but he needs to grow the up and start playing the way that’s the team needs him to. Stop arguing every call and start focusing on his strength and conditioning too
Most of this roster was here last year. Yes Spencer and DFS are gone but even before they left there were major issues. You added freaking Kyrie Irving, and he’s only missed one game in this stretch. On paper now this should be a better team than last year.
The regression of the team when they should’ve been building off of last year is an indictment against the coaching
We have huge depth with bigs so it’s definitely the left.