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[Howard Beck] If the Oklahoma City Thunder — who drafted Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, James Harden, Serge Ibaka all in a short span — had been the New York Thunder, the San Francisco Thunder, the Los Angeles Thunder, that team might have never been broken up.



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>I‘ve always put it this way: If the Oklahoma City Thunder — who drafted Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, James Harden, Serge Ibaka all in a short span — had been the New York Thunder, the San Francisco Thunder, the Los Angeles Thunder, that team might have never been broken up.

by lopea182

31 Comments

  1. RottenSmegmaMan

    If ownership was still cheap, then it wouldn’t have mattered.

  2. _Zap_Rowsdower_

    I always thought OkC didnt didnt want to pay all of them but ok.

  3. Syndana23

    Did we not see the KD and Harden nets break up in New York? Lol

  4. MasterTeacher123

    The 2012 Thunder are one of my favorite teams that never won the title

  5. abippityboop

    That’s not even true.

    We drafted the equally impressive combo of Kevin Knox and Frank Ntilikina and we weren’t able to retain either of them. It’s just really hard to retain elite players sometimes.

  6. thy_armageddon

    Warrior fans based in Oakland, how do you feel about this weird level of erasure?

  7. samueladams6

    You can’t complain about playing in a small market when you stole the team from a big market

  8. This_Cable_5849

    Na, they would have. Please show me the examples of superstars staying together and not having egos, outside of the warriors. You can’t.

  9. Why is San Francisco listed here with NY and LA? What about, I dunno, Chicago

  10. drjisftw

    Do we not shit on Clay Bennett enough for not wanting to pay Harden?

  11. meday20

    What about if they were the Seattle Supersonics?

  12. whiskeyinthejaar

    Maybe I have amnesia, but wasn’t it Presti who broke up their “big 3”, and then the management excessive support of Russ drove KD away? Or we are rewriting history now?

    Management choosing not spend while being one step away from a championship is on the management. Last time I checked Milwaukee is nothing necessary known as Monaco of the midwest

  13. Far-Assumption1330

    Durant and Westbrook were drafted by the Seattle Supersonics, not the Thunder.

  14. claimsman11

    If the Oklahoma City Thunder had been the New York Thunder, the San Fransisco Thunder, the Los Angeles Thunder, they would have never had picks good enough to draft Kevin Durant, Russell Westrbrook, James Harden, and Serge Ibaka.

    This is why you shouldnt use wild hypotheticals as analysis.

  15. DunkFaceKilla

    People are forgetting OKC liked the trade they could’ve kept harden for another year without paying him to run it back

  16. junkit33

    It’s not the city so much as the wealth of the owner.

    If Bennett still owns the team in a bigger city, he’s still one of the “poor” owners.

    Likewise if Balmer owns the Thunder in Oklahoma City, he doesn’t blink at paying.

    That’s the inherent problem with luxury tax in a nutshell – some owners can afford to go deep into luxury tax to try to win, some can’t.

    Total aside – Harden probably doesn’t become the James Harden MVP we know him as if he stays in OKC playing 3rd banana. People forget it took him 4-5 years in Houston before he really understood how to play PG and be an elite passer – he wouldn’t have ever even had that opportunity in OKC and would have been a permanent SG.

  17. sactown_13

    Those egos would not have survived each other

  18. Dangerous_Double2313

    If they were the New York Thunder at that time they would have all been traded for over the hill overpaid vets.

  19. KnoxsFniteSuit

    Well yeah, but that’s because OKC has a small town mentality. “oh no! Our 6 man likes titty bars! Must mean his heart isn’t in the game. Better trade him for someone who loves Oklahoma city for the lush hills and ample wildflowers!”

    “Oh you know what else we need? A hard nose college coach who can whoop these entitled stars into shape! No, let’s not ask KD who he wants as coach because he’ll probably just pick someone who will let him off easy. Billy Donovan come on down!”

  20. sctthuynh

    The ownership certainly deserve ridicule for the stupid Harden trade, but I think the team would’ve been broken up a year or two later.

    A ton of reporting since the infamous trade had speculated Harden wanting his own team and had outgrown his 6th man role.

  21. yoyoyocoolcatbromate

    The Lakers would have traded them all for proven stars.

  22. Reddit_and_forgeddit

    I would t want to live in OKc for half the year either tbh

  23. Cowboys_Lakers

    This was said a decade ago. Brilliant insight here.

  24. jakobburns01

    The lakers had Kobe and Shaq and still eventually traded one, Jordan said I’m gonna retire if you don’t keep Phil Jackson and did. The heatles broke up only after 4 years

  25. Islanduniverse

    And if my grandmother had wheels she’d be a bike.

  26. BatmanHive

    Two of those three guys have left places multiple times for minimal reasons, so it’s hard to believe this

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