On KJM, Doc Rivers joins the show to talk about Joel Embiid and his Philadelphia 76ers.0:00 Joel Embiid’s “historically great” season
1:45 Playmaking down the stretch
3:00 The favorites in the Eastern Conference
4:30 Playoff basketball and taking the next step
9:00 How Embiid gets his buckets
13:30 Tides turning for Embiid?
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Doc rides of one chip and chokes every other time so ovwrated
I'm surprised the hating war-torn Serbians haven't invaded the comment section with illogical, unsubstantiated talking points.
😂 okay. “Love the doubt”
Let's take a pragmatic approach here. Joel Embiid should not be considered for MVP because he didn't receive it last year. Those making this argument clearly don't understand the essence of competition and driving a team to victory. Moreover, Embiid's team lost three times to Boston this season, and their sole win was only due to the absence of Jaylen Brown and Robert Williams. When facing the Denver Nuggets he was no where to be found and the Milwaukee Bucks, who has the league's best player in game he couldn’t beat. Also brook lopez is his kryptonite.
It seems that the media is pushing for Embiid to win MVP, possibly because the top teams lack high-profile players who can’t cater to media expectations. These top players concentrate on the game without making excuses. Believe me, if Embiid wins MVP but is eliminated in the second round, it'll be his last opportunity to claim the title. The repercussions will be significant: Doc may be fired, James Harden could leave, and discussions about Embiid joining the Lakers or forming a super team will likely arise.
Bringing the fact that Giannis hasn't play enough game with his second best player this year as a reason for his mvp case is somewhat valid but. Milwaukee team as a whole player for player is a better team than the 76ers. 3rd and 4th best player at Milwaukee Holiday and Lopez can't compare to the 3rd and 4th of 76ers, Maxey and wait we don't even know who's their 4th with tobaias playing this bad. Let's also acknowledge that Harden has changed his game yet he's still a bit lower than Harden MVP level. Embid he's also working hard without the same potential team as Giannis.
In the case of Jokic well it's just about what you value, but I do value bucket and defense those are the basics for any team to win. I got Embid as my MVP and let's not behave like if he wins it will because of this or that, and discredit, he's more than deserving this
Harden is the weak link.
Yea, Doc has to be part of the solution and not be a problem for the 76ers to have a real chance going deep into the playoffs
12:55 This is why I hate sports media. HOW IN THE F*** CAN YOU ATTACH THE WORD "SYMPATHY" TO THE IDEA OF HIMBIID WINNING MVP??!! 🤯🤯🤯 Do you not have any integrity??
Stop disrespecting yourself. Stop disrespecting Himbiid. Stop disrespecting the award. You sound like a closet hater when you try and attach the concept of sympathy next to the top 5 most skilled players in the NBA winning the award.
The essence of the matter is the media has been exposed for giving Jokic the award last year in a landslide. Embiid got only a handful first place votes, when Jokic is said to have won the award in the game at Philly where Embiid outplayed him but Bones Hyland played excellently from three.
So, let's use our 🧠🧠🧠. If Himbiid lost the award in the last 3 or so games of the season when he was leading the polls all season-long how is it that the voting wasn't even close???
1️⃣ The media got exposed for bandwagoning the advanced stats narrative without even understanding how advanced stats are calculated.
2️⃣ The media got exposed for not even taking defense into consideration for an award that is a total BASKETBALL award – not just offensive or defensive.
So instead of the media admitting they made a mistake last year, they would rather disrespect Embiid by attaching the word SYMPATHY to him winning an award, for which he should be up for his second.
Himbiid is winning the first ever Michael Jordan Kia MVP award. Your cryptic slights won't change that. 🏀🏀🏀
ESPN doing its best to make Embid MVP, it's not right you should be ashamed.
I’ve been in that exact office Doc is sitting in 😭
Giannis the MVP
I feel Denver can still win more games without Joker than Philly can win without JE… JE should b the MVP
EMVIBIID! EMVIBIID! EMVIBIID!
No Jaylen Brown…relax Philly…JB is a walking 25 pts…
Embiid is the MVP, i been tryna tell yall the whole time
If Embiid is to get a MVP, I can’t see a better opportunity than this
Such a shame that he will probably not go far in the playoffs , because Harden is going to under perform. First Simmons and now Harden. He needs a better right hand in the team.
This is shameless campaigning but Doc Rivers & ESPN. The precedent is set and has been around long before these jokey analysts came along. The best player on the best team in the league wins the MVP. That's Giannis and his statistical category across the board is overall better than Embiid & Jokic. The top 3 seed is set in the NBA. Giannis will have the #1 seed. The guy worked for the MVP, noone will be gifting him anything. In Embiid's case it's charity. If he wants to win a MVP, let him take his team to top seed in the league. Jokic is ruled out because the voters messed up the criteria in the last 2 years. It's a real turn off for fans. Plus, Celtics now have the 2nd seed over both 76ers and Nuggets.
As sixers fan, the game has not changed. Great player still shoot too many jumpers. This def best passing year but still bad. This why scared to post up. Reality if does not post more, team be gone second round. Embid 5 inches Grant Williams, must post him up deep post
Doc Rivers is AWFUL and harden is underwhelming. Doc keeps playing lineups with Melton at the 3 to guard Tatum, it’s ridiculous. Leaves Niang in to get COOKED, and McDaniels and House can’t get enough PT. Harden keeps passing up open mid ranges and defenses read the scouting report. Feel bad for Embiid man
MAX THANK YOU FOR THE TOUGH QUESTIONS
what's his record say, is it a MVP record?
Great players are never satisfied……I.E. not Ben Simmons
Now this dude is going around doing interviews for the MVP. Nahhhhh I’ve never seen something so embarrassing from a team and organization 🤣🤣
It's funny people saying he was only covered by Grant Williams when he had 4 people covering him all game lmao
Doc it’s not 2008 and ur not in competition with a 2008 eastern conference. Stop talking about your one stupid championship. Your headass put Danny Green on Trae Young for 6 games, you gotta not screw up this playoffs. But we all know you will
Stopped shooting stupid 3s which he clearly was never making
15:40 bro spoke the most facts I’ve been waiting to hear on a show like this! Bring him back, they had a dialogue that reminded me of Max’s HBO days
Giannis dominates , Embiid falling all game ,shooting FT… Cant wait for playoffs
Sympathy award
Doc is a bad coach
I'm sorry, I cannot trust this coach in the playoffs
Max out here proving he’s the MVP of this show.
Keeps it entertaining, has wit and nuance, lighthearted when he needs to be, and asks sone great questions when he flexed his sports journalism/commentator muscles.
Always underrated and under-appreciated.
Hakeem olajuwon is BY FAR THE MOST SKILLED BIG MAN EVER. He was way more impactful on the defensive end than Joel embiid. Although he couldn't shoot as well as embid he was way more skilled in the post too. I'm sure he could have developed a shot if he wanted to as well but that just wasn't a thing in his era. Hakeem olajuwon was a back-to-back MVP in the finals. Most skilled big man to ever live sit-down Max!!!
In the playoffs for their careers Hakeem olajuwon averages more points rebounds and assists. And he averages MORE THAN TWICE as many blocks and steals than Embid. There is no way on Earth that Embid is more skilled than HAKEEM THE DREAM , c'mon man !!
He is the lion king and he came to the NBA to conquer this league jungle .
The propaganda machine is flying for ESPNs fave Embiid.
Chris Canty is a great analyst man. He's not so analytical that he seems robotic but at the same time he uses great logic to support his statements.
Finally someone in the media calling out doc rivers
Did Canty confront doc rivers taking shots at him like he was a hour before fox came on?
Let's be honest, the Sixers probably won't even get past the Nets. That will be a huge challenge already. If they manage to survive that, they have no chance against the Celtics or the Bucks. It's just not a possibility.
Joel Embiid=MVP
Canty >>>>>>>> Keyshawn