[ Question ] For Aged 35+ Knick fans: Are you more proud of 2023’s playoff squad or 2013’s playoff squad? Why? How does your pick compare to the 1999 Knicks?
[ Question ] For Aged 35+ Knick fans: Are you more proud of 2023’s playoff squad or 2013’s playoff squad? Why? How does your pick compare to the 1999 Knicks?
I’d probably say I’m more proud of this year’s team because all this was so unexpected. The 2013 had a perennial all star in Melo, a top center who anchored a championship team in Tyson Chandler, and was stocked with veterans.
The fan base seemed to be at a worse place this offseason than we were in 2013. I heard alot of ‘fire thibs’ ‘trade randle’ and ‘our young core is overrated’. For so many of the young guys to develop, thibs to show some growth, Randle to bounce back, and Brunson betting on himself and being right, it’s probably the most fun season of my adult life
Legitimate-Cupcake26
I get all the Carmelo love but man he is nowhere near a Knicks “legend”. I do wonder what his destiny would have been with competent coaching + management but he doesn’t hold a candle to the 90’s guys: Ewing, Starks, Spreewell, LJ, Mason, Oak. Also, he literally didn’t play defense
kdizzzog
This one for me. I feel this one is built for a longer run for years to come. It was constructed the right way through the draft and not just overpaying guys through FA. That 2013 squad was one year and done. The 1999 one I could kind of see some of that with this squad. They both have younger high basketball IQ players that play hard. I’m 38 if that helps.
rmccarthy10
This team, today, feels more homegrown…even though we didnt draft Randle or Brunson. It feels like they came into their own as Knicks. They are peaking here. Carmelo and Amare had already become stars before getting here. The current team feels like real family
NYdude777
Carmelo is a legend to people who were 10 years old in 2013 and/or brain dead. He did nothing to advance the Knicks he was carMElo. The revisionist history is ridiculous. Did he have an overall statistically good career? Yeah, but who cares? He was not good for the Knicks and actively dragged it down in that Era. Selfish player who was hardly a leader.
xx_nigeriaN_prince_x
I’m 31, but the 2013 team was brutal to watch at times. Lots of Melo iso and a team with Sheed, Marcus Camby, and Kidd wasn’t exactly getting out in transition
joorral
This year. People didn’t even think we make the playoffs.
FredVanCleet
This one. 2013 team was fun but was full of near retirees and felt like we had a tiny window in the Heatles era where it never felt like we had a chance. This team is younger across the board, lot of homegrown talent (any of whom are welcome to step up at any time lol), and plays together.
I love Melo and he gave me some of the best Knicks moments since the 90s like the Easter game which holds some personal significance for me, but it felt like we were all in at the wrong time. This team just feels more fun to root for if that makes any sense.
mgf227
I’ll never forgive Tyson chandler for getting destroyed by hibbert
bobak186
2013 we were expected to at least make the second round if not conference finals. 2023 we were expected to make the play in.. 2023 is a much bigger accomplishment and much less expected. 1999 was wild. As an 8th seed and to beat the heat and pacers in the process.1999 squad disappointed in the regular season but the pre season expectation was to be competitive.
charlesfluidsmith
These guys, no contest.
The 2013 team had no chance.
We knew that.
We also knew that team had no sustainable future.
Things are different this go round.
Revenesis
I’m going to zag away from the consensus here. For all you guys saying that the 2013 team and Melo was whatever and doesn’t hold a candle to the 90’s guys, are you people really 40+ years old? I’m over 30 and became a Knicks fan because of the ’99 team’s playoff run.
2013 was all we had, and Melo was the only consensus top 10 player we had since the 90’s. We were asking him to be LeBron when he just wasn’t built that way as a leader. He was a great scorer and I still think of him as an All Time Great Knick, idc. If you’re going to shit on Melo, then you’ll need to have a conversation about Bernard King as an all time great Knick as well.
I was in college in 2013 during the playoffs and that whole year was just amazing. We were the 2 seed, we had the season sweep against the Heatles that year, and created the 3-centric type of basketball that became popular shortly after. I had an awesome time that year watching Novak with the discount double check and JR going crazy as the 6th man. Jason Kidd’s shooting (!) and leadership, while all Melo had to do was play his game. The best part about the 2023 run is that it seems sustainable. We have a lot of our guys under contract as well as all of our assets in case the right trade appears.
onepokemanz
I’m 25. But remember the 2011-2013 fondly
The 2013 team was special man. 6 man jr, dpoy ( a year ago) Chandler. Scoring title melo. Great vets in Kidd
That team was suppose to meet Miami
This 2023 team is just a surprise, I thought we’d lose in the first round make the 7th seed max So the future is much brighter then the oldest in the leauge 2013 Knicks
Accomplished_Power_3
I’m 29 if that counts . This year, for sure, is more special . This team is great, and I hope they continue to grow .
Snuggle__Monster
The 2013 team doesn’t even make my top 10 fave Knicks teams. 23 is way better than 13. Better constructed roster, better chemistry, higher upside going forward.
99 is goated compared to these two squads. They were an underachieving mess that season and it really felt like a lost year because of the shortened season. Then the playoffs started and they played like the beasts we all knew they were. The ending was the most bittersweet to any season I’ve experienced across all of the NY teams I watch. The next closest would be the 2000 Giants. But watching that incredible run end really cut deep. Like really deep. Fuck Layden for destroying that core.
Funny thing is though, that 99 team wasn’t even the best they put on the floor in those years. That was the 97 squad. And the 94 Finals team were world beaters in the reg season and took the Rockets to the brink in game 6.
teknomatic
This year. The melo squad was expected to challenge lebron and his heat team for the eastern conference, but never got the chance to because they fell short.
This team we’re watching now was widely considered to be a play in team at best and we exceeded expectations.
I still put the 99 run over this though. Anyone who watched that run will tell you how magical it was.
ElTuco84
This year by far, this is the first time in a long long time the Knicks have made a good team out of draft picks and smart free agency moves.
Cucos743
2013 team had a ceiling and tiny window. This teams window is just opening.
fatfunnyboy12
I’m more proud of the 2023 knicks than the 2013 team. The 2023 team has players who we’ve seen develop over a few years and you feel a sense of pride seeing them turn into a competitive basketball team. Like, you remember when Mitchell Robinson was just this skinny big man who couldn’t stay in the game without fouling out. You remember Julius Randle being a marginal player who we got hoping he’d become what he is now. Brunson was a bench player in Dallas. We drafted RJ, traded on draft day for Quickley, Grimes, etc. Josh Hart is one of those glue guys who reminds you of the way John Starks and Anthony Mason became star players in their own right.
The 2013 team had a lot of veterans but they were already established by the time they got here. It felt like the winning was almost a fluke, and it all revolved around Melo scoring 30 points per game (he won the scoring title that season). I don’t remember that team playing much defense at all. If there was one player I wish we could get back from that team it would be Steve Novak because we haven’t had an elite 3 point shooter like that since then. In general though, I didn’t see that team being competitive long term and they weren’t. If I’m not mistaken they fired Mike Woodson after the next season, which was a disappointing one. The team was super dysfunctional overall, even if they did do okay that one year.
This 2023 team is the most solid the Knicks have looked for now and the future since 1996. That was the year we got Allan Houston, Larry Johnson and Chris Childs, who became the core of the team for the next few years (even though Childs eventually was replaced in the starting line-up by Charlie Ward). We put those players around Patrick Ewing. And it worked until Ewing’s health became an issue. By 1999 we had traded Oakley for Camby, traded Starks (who was already a sixth man) for Sprewell. But it was still that core team from 96.
The 2023 plays a lot different than the 1999 team. If you watch games on YouTube, it’s like a totally different game. The 1999 team was a much better defensive team and even though they didn’t score a ton of points they ran a real offense with a lot of post ups and ball movement. They were more fundamentally sound. But it was a different time and a different league. I think this 2023 team is the closest to Knicks 90s-style team, but built for the modern era.
bsanchey
More proud of today’s squad. It’s simple 2023 Knicks have surpassed expectations the 2013 Knicks fell short of them.
Fatzmanz
Imo the east was weaker in 2013 and I legitimately feel like we had a great roster. I think we win the NBA finals if we have a competent head coach who knows how to adjust and lean into whichever one of our players is getting hot from the three cuz we had four different people who could but once in never fucking grow up hot hand plays and he never made second half adjustments
iamjustyn
2013 was fun but it never felt to me like they could really make it to the promised land. This team on the other hand is doing great and still has room to improve. More built from the ground up whereas 2013 felt patched together.
HipnotiK1
this year and it’s not even close. love melo and that year was fun but it had no future.
this team is young and overachieved – the 2013 team overachieved in the reg season but was expected to beat an old boston. We were not favored over the cavs and we beat them in 5.
this team is promising due to the youth, all our picks (+ some other teams picks) and our core guys mostly locked up on non-max deals. Just need to resign hart and hopefully IQ turns it around the rest of the playoffs so we can justify locking him up too.
either way we’re positioned great for the future, the 2013 team wasn’t.
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I’m 34 but don’t remember the 99 knicks at all.
KatzInTheCradle11
The Melo squad was so exciting but the eastern conference landscape at the time made our playoff run feel futile. This year just feels different. This team wasnt built to be/wasnt be considered a true contender in the east. But, they play hard and feels like they could beat anyone on any given night.
mattr1198
Easily this year. Even going into 2013, the expectation was that it was going to be an all-in push with a bunch of geezers that may or may not work. It did in the regular season, but come playoff time, we broke down. This 2023 roster is built way more for the long term (if I’m not mistaken, the youngest team still in the playoffs), but was not expected to be more than a play-in team. Alas we crushed those expectations and crushed the higher seeded team that took a star player we were seemingly destined to get before. No matter what happens the rest of this playoff run, our current roster has quite a few more years in it and plenty of room to improve either internally or externally.
JiveChain
God dammit I’m 34…I’ll see myself out
gonutsdonuts1
1994, 1999, 2023, 2013 – that’s the correct order
realmatic2e
I’m more proud of this years team because it’s a squad that for the most part is homegrown and seeing them grow into a team that’s competing in the second rounds of the playoffs is dope.
I loved the Melo squads, amare had a good first season, Linsanity was so dope but this years team feels like it likes and supports each other
Chance_Blasto
This year. Fair or not: Melo came with a lot of expectations.
aesop_fables
For me 2013 was incredibly fun and I think we could’ve given Miami a run if Melo didn’t get his shoulder pulled out of his socket. This team feels a bit more confident and more well rounded. This team reminds me of of the 99 team. I feel like this team believes they can make a run just like that 99 team did. We just need to click the way they did back then.
Okieant33
This team by far. The 2013 team was fool’s gold and we knew it. We knew we matched up well with the Heat but that team wasn’t built to last especially with Amar’e’s suspect health. Our veteran presence was great though. This team is better constructed with a much bigger upside and much more balanced.
tokeaholics646
Imagine we still had Steve Novak doing discount double check with Rodgers courtside? 😂
I hope this isn’t recency bias, but this ‘23 team is my favorite team in my lifetime. (I’m 31) I liked Melo but it hits differently when homegrown talent (RJ, IQ, Mitch, Obi, ect..) plays as well as they have. I think with Randle we’ve been through a lot with him with the ups and downs but one thing I’ve always seen is that he gives 110% every game and I respect the hell out of that. And BrunsHIM proving everyone wrong and turning into a superstar has been amazing. The Hart trade might go down as the best trade the Knicks have made in the last 20 years. And lets not forget Thibs being a lunatic on the sidelines every play has been so entertaining 😂
The ‘99 team will always have a special play in my heart, but man I love this year’s team.
External_Passenger87
This years team for sure. They play like a team. I was wildly entertained by Melo, but let’s face it. He didn’t really make the people around him better. This 2023 team has had a lot of examples of bench players stepping up, when the starters are off. And when Randle or Brunson are off, they look to give it to the hot hand.
Remarkable_Inchworm
This year’s team.
Honestly, it’s hard to have positive memories about 2013 because they were so aggressive in messing up what they’d built… and what they’d built was sort of a house of cards in the first place.
The 1999 team was a hell of a ride… you can’t compare these guys to that squad just yet.
GX112
More proud of this one because it can be sustainable if FO makes the right move and build right. The 2013 team was too old and had very little upside as everyone was either peaked or old.
RoguePossum56
-99′ was the end of an Era of really great basketball
Starting in 91′ through the 99′-00′ there was only 1 season(98′-99′) that we didn’t finish 1st or 2nd in the Atlantic Division. Back then the Knicks were expected to be good.
-2013 was a team built to win now, and whatever happened down the line be damned.
Despite the stars on that team, I always felt there were better teams out there. I was not a huge fan of this team, sadly I always felt like they were frauds and would eventually lose.
I LOVE THIS TEAM. It’s like watching those early 90s teams being built all over again. If this front office sticks to their plan, the owner doesn’t meddle, and we continue to play with grit we can have a another run like the 90s all over again and hopefully take the next step and win a chip.
MeanKareem
im 36, this team is more likeable then 13… but to me they dont come close to the 99 team…
rbwrath
The 2023 by far. I’m not a big fan of the post-Ewing Knicks teams… Love how these guys are building their careers here and working as a team. Never got that with the Melo “teams.”
I loved the 99 team. But they had no shot at beating the Spurs that year. I give the 99 team the edge over this year’s, but that may change as this team grows.
whoneedsthequikemart
i’m 40 years old and been a knick fan since i was 5. i lived through the atmosphere of the 90s and there really is no explanation of how the city is and how hard the garden rocks when the knicks are a very good team. i hope this team can somewhat replicate the energy and playoff appearances like the 90s teams. i’m going to my first playoff game in over a decade on wednesday and i’m already having goosebumps hoping that 90s feel as a kid is replicated that night, cause man is it fuckin insane. to answer, this team lol
Sad_Hungry
2023 feels more promising because it’s not an aged team with several key role players about to retire. Unfortunately it feels like the ultimate outcome will be very similar in round 2. What sets this year’s team apart is that it seems more realistic to build upon any of this success or at least we have hope to be a repeat playoff round winner in consecutive years for the first time since 23 years ago
But 1999 was magical and neither team compares to that run given the Houston running jumper, sweeping Atlanta, the LJ 4 point play and Spree’s heart in the very outmatched finals against the Spurs
thedanbeforetime
this team. this feels like a beginning. this feels real and sustainable and full of potential to get even better. i loved 2013 but would never describe it in those terms. I’ll say this is the most fun I’ve had watching a knicks squad since 99. 99 takes the cake until this team makes a finals though.
hedgerocks
i low key didnt like the 2013 knicks squad. it felt like a bunch of rent a players. they never had that big dick energy this squad has. 1999 was whole different animal. that squad was all heart. I was also graduating high school so it holds a special place
Hologram8
2023’s team. The 2013 team was good but this one feels more like a team if that makes sense. The 1999 team had a magical run. That was a great time to be a Knicks fan. We weren’t supposed to make it our of the 1st round, but we made it all the way to the Finals. Losing was disappointing, but that Spurs team was unstoppable. I still have my Eastern Conference Championship shirt and hat.
This team has it’s problems, but the way they play hard makes you believe in them.
OhOuiChef
Both are magnificent in different ways. Melo for me screamed grit and was embodying the idea of one guy coming to NY as the savior. It was fun, admirable, heartbreaking and everything else in between but he took it on and willed us to a 2nd seed. This team is all about growth, we’re actually establishing a culture built on development and teamwork. Fans are finally getting the payout of rooting for a guy from his rookie contract and seeing him make it work after an extension. They’re both amazing, I didn’t soak the last one up enough and I’m doing my absolute best to be so grateful for this group of guys representing the city
Da_Stable_Genius
This team. It feels like these guy bought in and playing for each other. The defensive effort at times have been great to see.
PuffinChaos
Not seeing much about the 99 team here. That felt like the end of an era, even though Houston, Sprewell, LJ, Kurt Thomas, Charlie ward, and Camby were all in their 20’s still. We were the 8 seed I think So it wasn’t a surprise when we got blasted by the #1 Spurs with Tim Duncan and David robinson. Steve Kerr was on that team too I think.
The 2023 squad feels different. We drafted some of these players and brought some others in who have kind of found their top form with us (Randle and Brunson). I never had any faith in the 2013 team. Gave up a ton of depth to get one of the biggest ball hogs in the game. We were never going to make it to a Finals let alone win one with Melo
nycjedi
This squad is younger than 2013…. More fun to watch and they play better defense. For me no one touches the 1999 team, Larry 3pt game and the only game we won in those finals were both my first live NBA games watched. That 1999 team will forever be legendary
seanshelagh
56 year old fan here. Neither 2013 or 2023 come close to 1999. In 99, the Knicks were the eighth seed. In the playoffs we knocked off the top seeded Heat and second seed Pacers. I cannot overstate how much we hated those teams. Those weren’t rivalries, they were blood feuds. We played them every year in the playoffs.
Those playoffs had two of the most iconic moments in Knicks history, Alan Houston’s series winner against the Heat(https://youtu.be/jGU2GwC-mbQ) and Larry Johnson’s 4 point play against the Pacers(https://youtu.be/-0CGK1MGI4E). Ewing hurt his Achilles against Indiana and we still won in six.
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I’d probably say I’m more proud of this year’s team because all this was so unexpected. The 2013 had a perennial all star in Melo, a top center who anchored a championship team in Tyson Chandler, and was stocked with veterans.
The fan base seemed to be at a worse place this offseason than we were in 2013. I heard alot of ‘fire thibs’ ‘trade randle’ and ‘our young core is overrated’. For so many of the young guys to develop, thibs to show some growth, Randle to bounce back, and Brunson betting on himself and being right, it’s probably the most fun season of my adult life
I get all the Carmelo love but man he is nowhere near a Knicks “legend”. I do wonder what his destiny would have been with competent coaching + management but he doesn’t hold a candle to the 90’s guys: Ewing, Starks, Spreewell, LJ, Mason, Oak. Also, he literally didn’t play defense
This one for me. I feel this one is built for a longer run for years to come. It was constructed the right way through the draft and not just overpaying guys through FA. That 2013 squad was one year and done. The 1999 one I could kind of see some of that with this squad. They both have younger high basketball IQ players that play hard. I’m 38 if that helps.
This team, today, feels more homegrown…even though we didnt draft Randle or Brunson. It feels like they came into their own as Knicks. They are peaking here. Carmelo and Amare had already become stars before getting here. The current team feels like real family
Carmelo is a legend to people who were 10 years old in 2013 and/or brain dead. He did nothing to advance the Knicks he was carMElo. The revisionist history is ridiculous. Did he have an overall statistically good career? Yeah, but who cares? He was not good for the Knicks and actively dragged it down in that Era. Selfish player who was hardly a leader.
I’m 31, but the 2013 team was brutal to watch at times. Lots of Melo iso and a team with Sheed, Marcus Camby, and Kidd wasn’t exactly getting out in transition
This year. People didn’t even think we make the playoffs.
This one. 2013 team was fun but was full of near retirees and felt like we had a tiny window in the Heatles era where it never felt like we had a chance. This team is younger across the board, lot of homegrown talent (any of whom are welcome to step up at any time lol), and plays together.
I love Melo and he gave me some of the best Knicks moments since the 90s like the Easter game which holds some personal significance for me, but it felt like we were all in at the wrong time. This team just feels more fun to root for if that makes any sense.
I’ll never forgive Tyson chandler for getting destroyed by hibbert
2013 we were expected to at least make the second round if not conference finals.
2023 we were expected to make the play in..
2023 is a much bigger accomplishment and much less expected.
1999 was wild. As an 8th seed and to beat the heat and pacers in the process.1999 squad disappointed in the regular season but the pre season expectation was to be competitive.
These guys, no contest.
The 2013 team had no chance.
We knew that.
We also knew that team had no sustainable future.
Things are different this go round.
I’m going to zag away from the consensus here. For all you guys saying that the 2013 team and Melo was whatever and doesn’t hold a candle to the 90’s guys, are you people really 40+ years old? I’m over 30 and became a Knicks fan because of the ’99 team’s playoff run.
2013 was all we had, and Melo was the only consensus top 10 player we had since the 90’s. We were asking him to be LeBron when he just wasn’t built that way as a leader. He was a great scorer and I still think of him as an All Time Great Knick, idc. If you’re going to shit on Melo, then you’ll need to have a conversation about Bernard King as an all time great Knick as well.
I was in college in 2013 during the playoffs and that whole year was just amazing. We were the 2 seed, we had the season sweep against the Heatles that year, and created the 3-centric type of basketball that became popular shortly after. I had an awesome time that year watching Novak with the discount double check and JR going crazy as the 6th man. Jason Kidd’s shooting (!) and leadership, while all Melo had to do was play his game. The best part about the 2023 run is that it seems sustainable. We have a lot of our guys under contract as well as all of our assets in case the right trade appears.
I’m 25. But remember the 2011-2013 fondly
The 2013 team was special man. 6 man jr, dpoy ( a year ago) Chandler. Scoring title melo. Great vets in Kidd
That team was suppose to meet Miami
This 2023 team is just a surprise, I thought we’d lose in the first round make the 7th seed max
So the future is much brighter then the oldest in the leauge 2013 Knicks
I’m 29 if that counts . This year, for sure, is more special .
This team is great, and I hope they continue to grow .
The 2013 team doesn’t even make my top 10 fave Knicks teams. 23 is way better than 13. Better constructed roster, better chemistry, higher upside going forward.
99 is goated compared to these two squads. They were an underachieving mess that season and it really felt like a lost year because of the shortened season. Then the playoffs started and they played like the beasts we all knew they were. The ending was the most bittersweet to any season I’ve experienced across all of the NY teams I watch. The next closest would be the 2000 Giants. But watching that incredible run end really cut deep. Like really deep. Fuck Layden for destroying that core.
Funny thing is though, that 99 team wasn’t even the best they put on the floor in those years. That was the 97 squad. And the 94 Finals team were world beaters in the reg season and took the Rockets to the brink in game 6.
This year. The melo squad was expected to challenge lebron and his heat team for the eastern conference, but never got the chance to because they fell short.
This team we’re watching now was widely considered to be a play in team at best and we exceeded expectations.
I still put the 99 run over this though. Anyone who watched that run will tell you how magical it was.
This year by far, this is the first time in a long long time the Knicks have made a good team out of draft picks and smart free agency moves.
2013 team had a ceiling and tiny window. This teams window is just opening.
I’m more proud of the 2023 knicks than the 2013 team. The 2023 team has players who we’ve seen develop over a few years and you feel a sense of pride seeing them turn into a competitive basketball team. Like, you remember when Mitchell Robinson was just this skinny big man who couldn’t stay in the game without fouling out. You remember Julius Randle being a marginal player who we got hoping he’d become what he is now. Brunson was a bench player in Dallas. We drafted RJ, traded on draft day for Quickley, Grimes, etc. Josh Hart is one of those glue guys who reminds you of the way John Starks and Anthony Mason became star players in their own right.
The 2013 team had a lot of veterans but they were already established by the time they got here. It felt like the winning was almost a fluke, and it all revolved around Melo scoring 30 points per game (he won the scoring title that season). I don’t remember that team playing much defense at all. If there was one player I wish we could get back from that team it would be Steve Novak because we haven’t had an elite 3 point shooter like that since then. In general though, I didn’t see that team being competitive long term and they weren’t. If I’m not mistaken they fired Mike Woodson after the next season, which was a disappointing one. The team was super dysfunctional overall, even if they did do okay that one year.
This 2023 team is the most solid the Knicks have looked for now and the future since 1996. That was the year we got Allan Houston, Larry Johnson and Chris Childs, who became the core of the team for the next few years (even though Childs eventually was replaced in the starting line-up by Charlie Ward). We put those players around Patrick Ewing. And it worked until Ewing’s health became an issue. By 1999 we had traded Oakley for Camby, traded Starks (who was already a sixth man) for Sprewell. But it was still that core team from 96.
The 2023 plays a lot different than the 1999 team. If you watch games on YouTube, it’s like a totally different game. The 1999 team was a much better defensive team and even though they didn’t score a ton of points they ran a real offense with a lot of post ups and ball movement. They were more fundamentally sound. But it was a different time and a different league. I think this 2023 team is the closest to Knicks 90s-style team, but built for the modern era.
More proud of today’s squad. It’s simple 2023 Knicks have surpassed expectations the 2013 Knicks fell short of them.
Imo the east was weaker in 2013 and I legitimately feel like we had a great roster. I think we win the NBA finals if we have a competent head coach who knows how to adjust and lean into whichever one of our players is getting hot from the three cuz we had four different people who could but once in never fucking grow up hot hand plays and he never made second half adjustments
2013 was fun but it never felt to me like they could really make it to the promised land. This team on the other hand is doing great and still has room to improve. More built from the ground up whereas 2013 felt patched together.
this year and it’s not even close. love melo and that year was fun but it had no future.
this team is young and overachieved – the 2013 team overachieved in the reg season but was expected to beat an old boston. We were not favored over the cavs and we beat them in 5.
this team is promising due to the youth, all our picks (+ some other teams picks) and our core guys mostly locked up on non-max deals. Just need to resign hart and hopefully IQ turns it around the rest of the playoffs so we can justify locking him up too.
either way we’re positioned great for the future, the 2013 team wasn’t.
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I’m 34 but don’t remember the 99 knicks at all.
The Melo squad was so exciting but the eastern conference landscape at the time made our playoff run feel futile. This year just feels different. This team wasnt built to be/wasnt be considered a true contender in the east. But, they play hard and feels like they could beat anyone on any given night.
Easily this year. Even going into 2013, the expectation was that it was going to be an all-in push with a bunch of geezers that may or may not work. It did in the regular season, but come playoff time, we broke down. This 2023 roster is built way more for the long term (if I’m not mistaken, the youngest team still in the playoffs), but was not expected to be more than a play-in team. Alas we crushed those expectations and crushed the higher seeded team that took a star player we were seemingly destined to get before. No matter what happens the rest of this playoff run, our current roster has quite a few more years in it and plenty of room to improve either internally or externally.
God dammit I’m 34…I’ll see myself out
1994, 1999, 2023, 2013 – that’s the correct order
I’m more proud of this years team because it’s a squad that for the most part is homegrown and seeing them grow into a team that’s competing in the second rounds of the playoffs is dope.
I loved the Melo squads, amare had a good first season, Linsanity was so dope but this years team feels like it likes and supports each other
This year. Fair or not: Melo came with a lot of expectations.
For me 2013 was incredibly fun and I think we could’ve given Miami a run if Melo didn’t get his shoulder pulled out of his socket. This team feels a bit more confident and more well rounded. This team reminds me of of the 99 team. I feel like this team believes they can make a run just like that 99 team did. We just need to click the way they did back then.
This team by far. The 2013 team was fool’s gold and we knew it. We knew we matched up well with the Heat but that team wasn’t built to last especially with Amar’e’s suspect health. Our veteran presence was great though. This team is better constructed with a much bigger upside and much more balanced.
Imagine we still had Steve Novak doing discount double check with Rodgers courtside? 😂
I hope this isn’t recency bias, but this ‘23 team is my favorite team in my lifetime. (I’m 31) I liked Melo but it hits differently when homegrown talent (RJ, IQ, Mitch, Obi, ect..) plays as well as they have. I think with Randle we’ve been through a lot with him with the ups and downs but one thing I’ve always seen is that he gives 110% every game and I respect the hell out of that. And BrunsHIM proving everyone wrong and turning into a superstar has been amazing. The Hart trade might go down as the best trade the Knicks have made in the last 20 years. And lets not forget Thibs being a lunatic on the sidelines every play has been so entertaining 😂
The ‘99 team will always have a special play in my heart, but man I love this year’s team.
This years team for sure. They play like a team. I was wildly entertained by Melo, but let’s face it. He didn’t really make the people around him better. This 2023 team has had a lot of examples of bench players stepping up, when the starters are off. And when Randle or Brunson are off, they look to give it to the hot hand.
This year’s team.
Honestly, it’s hard to have positive memories about 2013 because they were so aggressive in messing up what they’d built… and what they’d built was sort of a house of cards in the first place.
The 1999 team was a hell of a ride… you can’t compare these guys to that squad just yet.
More proud of this one because it can be sustainable if FO makes the right move and build right. The 2013 team was too old and had very little upside as everyone was either peaked or old.
-99′ was the end of an Era of really great basketball
Starting in 91′ through the 99′-00′ there was only 1 season(98′-99′) that we didn’t finish 1st or 2nd in the Atlantic Division. Back then the Knicks were expected to be good.
-2013 was a team built to win now, and whatever happened down the line be damned.
Despite the stars on that team, I always felt there were better teams out there. I was not a huge fan of this team, sadly I always felt like they were frauds and would eventually lose.
I LOVE THIS TEAM. It’s like watching those early 90s teams being built all over again. If this front office sticks to their plan, the owner doesn’t meddle, and we continue to play with grit we can have a another run like the 90s all over again and hopefully take the next step and win a chip.
im 36, this team is more likeable then 13… but to me they dont come close to the 99 team…
The 2023 by far. I’m not a big fan of the post-Ewing Knicks teams… Love how these guys are building their careers here and working as a team. Never got that with the Melo “teams.”
I loved the 99 team. But they had no shot at beating the Spurs that year. I give the 99 team the edge over this year’s, but that may change as this team grows.
i’m 40 years old and been a knick fan since i was 5. i lived through the atmosphere of the 90s and there really is no explanation of how the city is and how hard the garden rocks when the knicks are a very good team. i hope this team can somewhat replicate the energy and playoff appearances like the 90s teams. i’m going to my first playoff game in over a decade on wednesday and i’m already having goosebumps hoping that 90s feel as a kid is replicated that night, cause man is it fuckin insane. to answer, this team lol
2023 feels more promising because it’s not an aged team with several key role players about to retire. Unfortunately it feels like the ultimate outcome will be very similar in round 2. What sets this year’s team apart is that it seems more realistic to build upon any of this success or at least we have hope to be a repeat playoff round winner in consecutive years for the first time since 23 years ago
But 1999 was magical and neither team compares to that run given the Houston running jumper, sweeping Atlanta, the LJ 4 point play and Spree’s heart in the very outmatched finals against the Spurs
this team. this feels like a beginning. this feels real and sustainable and full of potential to get even better. i loved 2013 but would never describe it in those terms. I’ll say this is the most fun I’ve had watching a knicks squad since 99. 99 takes the cake until this team makes a finals though.
i low key didnt like the 2013 knicks squad. it felt like a bunch of rent a players. they never had that big dick energy this squad has. 1999 was whole different animal. that squad was all heart. I was also graduating high school so it holds a special place
2023’s team. The 2013 team was good but this one feels more like a team if that makes sense. The 1999 team had a magical run. That was a great time to be a Knicks fan. We weren’t supposed to make it our of the 1st round, but we made it all the way to the Finals. Losing was disappointing, but that Spurs team was unstoppable. I still have my Eastern Conference Championship shirt and hat.
This team has it’s problems, but the way they play hard makes you believe in them.
Both are magnificent in different ways. Melo for me screamed grit and was embodying the idea of one guy coming to NY as the savior. It was fun, admirable, heartbreaking and everything else in between but he took it on and willed us to a 2nd seed. This team is all about growth, we’re actually establishing a culture built on development and teamwork. Fans are finally getting the payout of rooting for a guy from his rookie contract and seeing him make it work after an extension. They’re both amazing, I didn’t soak the last one up enough and I’m doing my absolute best to be so grateful for this group of guys representing the city
This team. It feels like these guy bought in and playing for each other. The defensive effort at times have been great to see.
Not seeing much about the 99 team here. That felt like the end of an era, even though Houston, Sprewell, LJ, Kurt Thomas, Charlie ward, and Camby were all in their 20’s still. We were the 8 seed I think So it wasn’t a surprise when we got blasted by the #1 Spurs with Tim Duncan and David robinson. Steve Kerr was on that team too I think.
The 2023 squad feels different. We drafted some of these players and brought some others in who have kind of found their top form with us (Randle and Brunson). I never had any faith in the 2013 team. Gave up a ton of depth to get one of the biggest ball hogs in the game. We were never going to make it to a Finals let alone win one with Melo
This squad is younger than 2013…. More fun to watch and they play better defense. For me no one touches the 1999 team, Larry 3pt game and the only game we won in those finals were both my first live NBA games watched. That 1999 team will forever be legendary
56 year old fan here. Neither 2013 or 2023 come close to 1999. In 99, the Knicks were the eighth seed. In the playoffs we knocked off the top seeded Heat and second seed Pacers. I cannot overstate how much we hated those teams. Those weren’t rivalries, they were blood feuds. We played them every year in the playoffs.
Those playoffs had two of the most iconic moments in Knicks history, Alan Houston’s series winner against the Heat(https://youtu.be/jGU2GwC-mbQ) and Larry Johnson’s 4 point play against the Pacers(https://youtu.be/-0CGK1MGI4E). Ewing hurt his Achilles against Indiana and we still won in six.
This season has been fun, but 99 was incredible.