Dave McMenamin and Ohm Youngmisuk join That’s OD to discuss what the Denver Nuggets winning the 2023 NBA Finals would mean to Nikola Jokic’s legacy having already won back-to-back MVPs.
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Who are the All-time Greats we would compare him too?
Definitely Top 75 material if he wins the chip! And will no doubt be in the group by the time he’s done.
They ask questions like these, but nobody questions that players like Gary Payton, Reggie Miller, Patrick Ewing, Charles Barkley etc are considered all time greats WITHOUT championships. If those players are all time greats, Jokic already is one considering he’s a back to back MVP and has a finals appearance
How they handled the 8th seed?
NO ! But 4,5 or 6 will ! we can’t move the goal post for 1 ring ladies and gentlemen
Duhhh why is this a question ⁉️ is it his race 🤔 2 mvps already a title and he stamped forever
Jokic is the most disrespected player of all time. Unreal
Here goes the media again with their "great white hope". Bruh is good but he's not even in the top 75 of the greatest players of all time.
So you guys don’t watch the nuggets got it lmao
What? Your answer there just proves you never watched the Nuggets and you didn’t even look at stats before the WCF series. The Nuggets had the second highest 3-point percentage in the regular season. They had the highest rated offense in the play-offs. You are the primary ESPN coverage for the Lakers and you didn’t do your homework before the series? That’s just lazy.
Is Barkley not an all time great? Dudes on couches saying "you have to win a ring". Lol it's a team sport. Bron would NEVER have a ring unless he left the team that drafted him.
Already is
Jokic is a good role model of a nba superstar in this generation when lebron retire.
He’s already there. He’s somewhere close to Giannis. A title would put him in the company of a George mikan, David Robinson, and Moses Malone tho. So around 7-9. I don’t think he’s quite passed giannis, Robinson or Moses just yet. But once his career starts winding down and he has the adequate numbers and overall accolades, he’ll likely finish over 2 those 4. He’ll have to win atleast one more tho.
And here we go, the latest player with 4-5 great years, getting thrown in the all-time great conversation 🤦🏾♂️ like Giannis being a Top 25 all-time great in the middle of his career
One thing is already clear – Jokic > Flop Embiid
Y’all so quick to name everybody an all time great
Dude is already top 10 if you just consider how good his current peak is and nothing else. He's phenomenal.
To late.
well to me an all time greay is a top 25 player all time, and he wont be that just yet so i guess the answer is ko
What kind of question is this? Braindead take.
Jokic has top 5 all time upside
He’s already an all time great
Anybody surprised by the Nuggets is a casual
He already is. A title win is just adding to his greatness.
Proof that fundamentals beats everytbing in basketball
He's already an all time great even without winning a chip
These "what if" shows are so stupid.
Is this even a question 🤦🏾♂️ This man is balling out of control
In my opinion no. He’s already among the very good big men but I’m not adding him to the list of Shaq, Olajuwon, Robinson, Duncan, Russell, Chamberlain etc. I think people glaze over the fact that the current NBA is based on stat padding with ball dominant players on each team. If you look at all the top teams they each have a primary ball handler except for Denver it’s their center rather than a guard or forward. That being said Jokic is still top player for sure but not an all time great without or without the title.
2 non basketball guys talking about nonsense. Jokic is already an all time great. This guy is spinning tires for the narrative that the team was better, instead of giving jokic his credit. Sad.
Triple double average,,, doing that in playoffs,,,,let that sink in….. its crazy impossible from a player who can barely jump….
Yup
All time great is kinda tricky to say the least. Would you put the joker with Wilt, Kobe, Bird, MJ, Bron etc…. ? Joker is on the come up and still has a way to go. Two more chips and a finals MVP then yeah he can sit at the table. Great he is like melo, Allen Iverson, Ewing, Dane Lillard etc … He can sit no problem.
"A successful man is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks others have thrown at him." –David Brinkley
He already is an all-time great, only a casual thinks winning a championship makes you a all-time great… by that logic Barkley, Stockton, Malone, Ewing etc wouldn’t be consider all-time greats either.
The GOAT! 🏆
AS SIMPLE AS THAT!
dirk was 32 when he won, at that time its like 38 today.. Jokic is as old as lebron and MJ when they won their first.
He already is an all time great
As a Heat fan, I don't see us beating Denver – If Jokic gets ONE MORE ring after 2023 then I'd say he's cemented his legacy. There are ALOT of players who have a ring that did little-to-nothing for it. Along that same line of thought, there are alot of MVPs without one (Karl Malone, Steve Nash, Allen Iverson…). If Jokic wins ONE, he's in the running but if he wins TWO then he's golden!
the title of the video is all about Jokic, the 2 time league mvp. the so called pundit spends 30 sec on Nicola and moves on. case in point on how underrated Jokic is
If you ever played ball, you know,Jokic is the best center ever.
“All time great” is such a general statement what does that mean