>By the numbers, Jokic is far and away the biggest such disrupter in the league. Over the regular season, he kicked the ball during an opponent’s possession 47 times—usually flinging a mammoth sneaker out into a passing lane when a guard is trying to slip the ball past Jokic’s hip to a big man. The mark was nearly twice the previous record since 2002-03, the earliest season for which Stats Perform has kicked-ball data. It’s more than all but 21 teams have ever collected across their whole rosters.
GGezpzMuppy
When your BBIQ is so high but your athleticism can’t keep up.
EdwEd1
Jokic is unbelievably good at using the kick ball violation in his favor. Last game I think there were two separate times where he saved easy buckets by just sticking his foot in the way
I’m not sure if him utilizing the rule so well warrants a change at the moment but I wouldn’t be surprised if it happens anyway to discourage more people from trying it in the future
Careless_Truth_3535
I wonder if the NBA starts penalizing this in the future. “The Jokic Rule”
Fit-Ad-6835
I counted at least 4 last game. The “punishment” for it is so minor, keep on kickin
MSKOnlyScans
I remember Zach Lowe talking about this a while back I think as a criticism of Jokic at the time lol.
GayForJamie
I hate how people have low-key complained about this this year. He’s clearly smart enough, and capable of doing it at a crazy level that nobody else is doing.
The solution? Stop throwing shitty passes that he can kick! It’s not rocket science.
TaxWizard69
Nuggets going to start recruiting defenders from Brazilian football clubs
Coicromoxeriamq
Member when all the bitter bitch 76ers fans tried to pretend this was some kind of massive knock against Jokic? I member
Edit: Oof guess the bitter bitches found my post. You guys enjoying Cancun or what? Lmfao
No_Bumblebee464
I genuinely do think they’re going to change the rules around kicked ball violations. The fact that there’s no penalty besides the shotclock going back to 14 if it’s under seems like more defenders should be taking advantage of this rule
Hazard_4
I remember in like March Zach Lowe was complaining about jokic constantly doing it and everyone was saying it wasn’t real defense/ wasn’t a basketball move or whatever. Never made much sense to me definitely helped last night.
Misterstaberinde
Rules getting changed for sure.
Intrepid-Concern2978
I hate that shit with a passion I know a dude who does that bs in pick up games. Should be a tech, there is no way anybody should be defending that lazy crap
frogfucius
So if this is such an egregious and exploitable loophole in the rules why aren’t more players doing it?
online_computer
Kicking should just be allowed and we will change the sport name to baskoccer
IntelligentQuickley
Most elite defensive centers have the alien wingspan or speed to steal the ball, idt anyone is attempting bounce passes consistently around giannis, gobert, Fraudel embiid, capela, porzingis, mitchell robinson, wendell carter, brook lopez, bam, and JJJ.
yuletide
LeSoccer
oldirtynumbers
What gives this mess some grace unless it’s kicks, man?
HB3187
Everytime one of these kicked ball threads come up, you can tell who didn’t play basketball.
Literally every coach ive ever had has coached me to deny entry or pocket passes high with the hands and low with sticking a foot or leg out. It’s incredibly common
WinterCareful8525
Make it a team tech this summer and move on
Snoo14937
How does this effect Messi’s legacy?
Ninja_knows
Is there a record this dude won’t break? 😂
discostupid
it’s a misnomer to call this a kick, his foot is in the way and the ball hits it, that’s not really a kick
penalizing having the ball hit your foot makes no sense whatsoever, and will be instantly exploited by offense for minimal risk, especially with the shotclock <10 s or so
Away_Championship_49
But I thought Embiid’s defense was very important, so now he’s beat on offense AND defense?
Enough_Lakers
People who think this will be legislated with a penalty of any sort please bet me money. The only thing that might happen is to reset the shot clock which is well worth it. You guys sound ridiculous.
MumenriderPaulReed69
Cause he’s not fast enough on D. It’s alright
NotUrAvgShitposter
This is a smart play, but y’all better keep the same energy for flopping.
obijon10
O
NeiRa7
Foul baiting giving offense advantage for years has ruined the game, but if Jokic restarts the clock than the league should intervene immediately? Lol. Offense has a huge advantage already, imagine if players couldn’t make lateral movements because of guards just aiming at there legs and anticipating defender movement. Also, just find better angle for pass, do not expect defender to just let you do it. Another thing that would be ruined is defending inbound pass. Maybe punish ft merchants, flopping and traveling for example, you know, things that affect the game so much more
Diegolikesandiego
Should kicked balls in basketball have the same punishment that handballs have in soccer then?
n3sta
Doesn’t matter Zach Lowe said it’s not a basketball play
SaintSavage1
Honestly don’t understand why more don’t take advantage of the rules. I mean you’re never gonna get a technical for it no matter how many times you’re going to do it
Kommander-in-Keef
You don’t hear about someone using a kickball violation as a strategy but for Jokic it might be true
ZealouxcgvSir
start recruiting defenders from Brazilian football clubs
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>By the numbers, Jokic is far and away the biggest such disrupter in the league. Over the regular season, he kicked the ball during an opponent’s possession 47 times—usually flinging a mammoth sneaker out into a passing lane when a guard is trying to slip the ball past Jokic’s hip to a big man. The mark was nearly twice the previous record since 2002-03, the earliest season for which Stats Perform has kicked-ball data. It’s more than all but 21 teams have ever collected across their whole rosters.
When your BBIQ is so high but your athleticism can’t keep up.
Jokic is unbelievably good at using the kick ball violation in his favor. Last game I think there were two separate times where he saved easy buckets by just sticking his foot in the way
I’m not sure if him utilizing the rule so well warrants a change at the moment but I wouldn’t be surprised if it happens anyway to discourage more people from trying it in the future
I wonder if the NBA starts penalizing this in the future. “The Jokic Rule”
I counted at least 4 last game. The “punishment” for it is so minor, keep on kickin
I remember Zach Lowe talking about this a while back I think as a criticism of Jokic at the time lol.
I hate how people have low-key complained about this this year. He’s clearly smart enough, and capable of doing it at a crazy level that nobody else is doing.
The solution? Stop throwing shitty passes that he can kick! It’s not rocket science.
Nuggets going to start recruiting defenders from Brazilian football clubs
Member when all the bitter bitch 76ers fans tried to pretend this was some kind of massive knock against Jokic? I member
Edit: Oof guess the bitter bitches found my post. You guys enjoying Cancun or what? Lmfao
I genuinely do think they’re going to change the rules around kicked ball violations. The fact that there’s no penalty besides the shotclock going back to 14 if it’s under seems like more defenders should be taking advantage of this rule
I remember in like March Zach Lowe was complaining about jokic constantly doing it and everyone was saying it wasn’t real defense/ wasn’t a basketball move or whatever. Never made much sense to me definitely helped last night.
Rules getting changed for sure.
I hate that shit with a passion I know a dude who does that bs in pick up games. Should be a tech, there is no way anybody should be defending that lazy crap
So if this is such an egregious and exploitable loophole in the rules why aren’t more players doing it?
Kicking should just be allowed and we will change the sport name to baskoccer
Most elite defensive centers have the alien wingspan or speed to steal the ball, idt anyone is attempting bounce passes consistently around giannis, gobert, Fraudel embiid, capela, porzingis, mitchell robinson, wendell carter, brook lopez, bam, and JJJ.
LeSoccer
What gives this mess some grace unless it’s kicks, man?
Everytime one of these kicked ball threads come up, you can tell who didn’t play basketball.
Literally every coach ive ever had has coached me to deny entry or pocket passes high with the hands and low with sticking a foot or leg out. It’s incredibly common
Make it a team tech this summer and move on
How does this effect Messi’s legacy?
Is there a record this dude won’t break? 😂
it’s a misnomer to call this a kick, his foot is in the way and the ball hits it, that’s not really a kick
penalizing having the ball hit your foot makes no sense whatsoever, and will be instantly exploited by offense for minimal risk, especially with the shotclock <10 s or so
But I thought Embiid’s defense was very important, so now he’s beat on offense AND defense?
People who think this will be legislated with a penalty of any sort please bet me money. The only thing that might happen is to reset the shot clock which is well worth it. You guys sound ridiculous.
Cause he’s not fast enough on D. It’s alright
This is a smart play, but y’all better keep the same energy for flopping.
O
Foul baiting giving offense advantage for years has ruined the game, but if Jokic restarts the clock than the league should intervene immediately? Lol. Offense has a huge advantage already, imagine if players couldn’t make lateral movements because of guards just aiming at there legs and anticipating defender movement. Also, just find better angle for pass, do not expect defender to just let you do it. Another thing that would be ruined is defending inbound pass. Maybe punish ft merchants, flopping and traveling for example, you know, things that affect the game so much more
Should kicked balls in basketball have the same punishment that handballs have in soccer then?
Doesn’t matter Zach Lowe said it’s not a basketball play
Honestly don’t understand why more don’t take advantage of the rules. I mean you’re never gonna get a technical for it no matter how many times you’re going to do it
You don’t hear about someone using a kickball violation as a strategy but for Jokic it might be true
start recruiting defenders from Brazilian football clubs