Get what you’re saying about him coming into the league as undrafted.
But at what point do we stop comparing to him to underrated players and simply compare him to NBA players?
Him being undrafted isn’t some magical quality that puts him into a category of his own when it comes to criticism about his game and his contribution to the team.
EarthWarping
Who is hating?
He’s a good player that IDK is a fit going forward with.
WildReputation5965
He’s like 8 years into his career and we are still comparing him to undrafted players. This means absolutely nothing
Raptorsthrowaway1
There is a lot of hate (I’m not talking about criticism) for Fred in this sub. It’s wild to me. Guy is a Raptors legend.
He has his limitations and is frustrating as fuck to watch at times. But there is a parroted narrative that he’s a terrible player. When he is still absolutely a starting caliber PG in this league.
Without a path to replace him and our pick committed next year. I fully expect him to be re-signed and back next year. I expect the coach to play him less than 40 mins a game and the FO to get him some actual NBA level backup through the draft.
kpeds45
I think he gets tunnel vision, but he’s a very good player that we should re-sign, even if just to trade him later.
peroper7
He’s still the best undrafted player in the nba by a long shot, fan hatred or not
BallerDay
Imma hate as much as I want if he gets anywhere close to the max.
pskill43
That’s great. Maybe he will accept getting paid as an undrafted player? Maybe slightly higher?
DaymanIsGod
If he wants to sign a contract that reflects what he actually offers us I’m all for him staying. I’m not happy for us to give him a massive contract after last year.
If he wants to sign a 1 year deal and prove last year was a fluke then sure…but no way he deserves some huge contract right now.
midnightmunchiez
We’re not hating. We’re moving on. You should do the same
tightcorners
What does PPG mean when you have a terrible Fg%? He is a good guard if you have a 2 legit options ahead of him.
chouindog
Dude had to play like the entire game to put up those numbers and without his late season rally would have looked a lot worse. Love FVV for what he did but it’s time to move on.
UjiriWatcher
He played at an allstar level for 2 months
Sensitive_Potato5128
He also had the worst field goal percentage in the NBA for a while last year so there’s that
randomguy041285
Who cares if he was undrafted?
PeterRavic
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mwyyz
Better Raptor than Derozan, but our fans are stupid.
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Get what you’re saying about him coming into the league as undrafted.
But at what point do we stop comparing to him to underrated players and simply compare him to NBA players?
Him being undrafted isn’t some magical quality that puts him into a category of his own when it comes to criticism about his game and his contribution to the team.
Who is hating?
He’s a good player that IDK is a fit going forward with.
He’s like 8 years into his career and we are still comparing him to undrafted players. This means absolutely nothing
There is a lot of hate (I’m not talking about criticism) for Fred in this sub. It’s wild to me. Guy is a Raptors legend.
He has his limitations and is frustrating as fuck to watch at times. But there is a parroted narrative that he’s a terrible player. When he is still absolutely a starting caliber PG in this league.
Without a path to replace him and our pick committed next year. I fully expect him to be re-signed and back next year. I expect the coach to play him less than 40 mins a game and the FO to get him some actual NBA level backup through the draft.
I think he gets tunnel vision, but he’s a very good player that we should re-sign, even if just to trade him later.
He’s still the best undrafted player in the nba by a long shot, fan hatred or not
Imma hate as much as I want if he gets anywhere close to the max.
That’s great. Maybe he will accept getting paid as an undrafted player? Maybe slightly higher?
If he wants to sign a contract that reflects what he actually offers us I’m all for him staying. I’m not happy for us to give him a massive contract after last year.
If he wants to sign a 1 year deal and prove last year was a fluke then sure…but no way he deserves some huge contract right now.
We’re not hating. We’re moving on. You should do the same
What does PPG mean when you have a terrible Fg%? He is a good guard if you have a 2 legit options ahead of him.
Dude had to play like the entire game to put up those numbers and without his late season rally would have looked a lot worse. Love FVV for what he did but it’s time to move on.
He played at an allstar level for 2 months
He also had the worst field goal percentage in the NBA for a while last year so there’s that
Who cares if he was undrafted?
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Better Raptor than Derozan, but our fans are stupid.