[Siegel] Maintaining the mindset of moving forward with Pascal Siakam, OG Anunoby, and Gary Trent Jr., the Raptors still believe they have what it takes to compete in the Eastern Conference.
[Siegel] Maintaining the mindset of moving forward with Pascal Siakam, OG Anunoby, and Gary Trent Jr., the Raptors still believe they have what it takes to compete in the Eastern Conference.
I need someone to believe in me like Masai believes in this core
jyh123
when you realize FVV wasn’t the only gambling addict on the team, FVV actually knew what he’s doing and it’s the FO that needs an intervention.
sinova6ix
We’ll see, guys are gonna have to step up.
pskill43
Rumours say they are still evaluating
ieastass69
lost to a god awful bulls team on home court to make the playoffs, picked in the lottery…LOST talent via free agency … and this FO thinks we can compete….
myrapties
We lost Kawhi, Danny, Lowry, Gasol, Ibaka, Norm, FVV and Nurse from the championship team but Masai is still delusional enough to believe that we can compete for another championship? Just trade Siakam already and let’s get this rebuild started.
SiakamsWager
Oof. Compete for a play-in win maybe.
Legitimate-Row7081
man we must have one of the dumbest front offices if they really believe a team minus fvv can compete with giannis , miami with lillard etc .
_Gourmand
I’m not really liking the direction we took. Shroder is decent but I feel like there were better alternatives including getting one through a trade. Do you think the Pelicans would do this: https://i.imgur.com/5VK4G0o.png
DontCheeseMeBro
It’s sad how delusional Masai is
The_Living_L
Honestly feel bad for Darko, first season coming in, has all this pressure to turn around a 10th seeded team, losing their second best player probably for nothing, and turn it all around with barely any changes
AngryHelicopter
If that is actually true, then this front office needs to be put down, as they’ve lost all objectivity. If they actually believe that after last year, then I don’t know what evidence could possibly convince them otherwise, there might be none, they might just be *that* deluded. Who would have thought that re-signing Masai would fuck the team over this bad.
Raptors887
LMAO they are absolutely delusional. What the hell has happened to Masai?
everything_raptors
At this point I believe Masai and Bobby have a mandate to maintain competitiveness soo MLSE can continue to sell tickets at ludicrous prices.
I just don’t believe Masai and Bobby believe this team is worth keeping together
We could miss the playoffs entirely next year and Masai will still believe in this core and run it back
2Shizo2flow
FO trying to save face after yesterday lol.
jovijovi99
The FO is fiending for that Christmas bonus
chrisPjelly
The Raptors FO can believe in that all they want, but less and less people will believe in THEM over time, and that includes journalists and people in MLSE. The outcome of this year falls 100 percent on their shoulders this time around.
Barnicus53
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hoennking502
LO
LionsSchemer
Theres still people here who yell run it back lmao
Ylissian
Someone please get Masai on his meds man
milkplantation
lol
Merorm
As much as its going to suck to watch, we probably need them to be terrible early next year to have any shot of convincing the FO to do the right thing at the deadline.
Which, given the roster construction, isn’t really that far-fetched.
jamiecballer
Gary Trent Jr heaven help us
Sins_of_God
“I dream like they dream” -Masai Ujiri
darthrevan22
Such a disappointing thing to read tbh. It’s obviously to literally everyone except our front office that this core doesn’t have what it takes to compete as currently constructed. Sucks because they’re not even fun to watch, so it’s even worse.
KratosSmash
Massive L
Extension_Pay_1572
I’m betting the Over when the odds are set at 42 wins.
This can work well if you know the vibes
krypto9er
Explain to me why it’s always the front office that gets blamed when ownership also gets a say in the direction they want to take the team in? I understand front office hasn’t made the best decision but from what I understand the owners want to be contenders rather than rebuild.
kingofaccounting
I believe in this core, its a 50+ wing team next year. Stop the group think, assess the team.
ImmaFunGuy
Nurse: this team needs more talent, I can’t win with this team
Masai: watch me run it back with less talent
Wallstreetpurge
Joke. The front office needs to be removed.
Artohn08
I love delusion
Disastrous_Meet_7952
🤡
buffalo-blonde
Giving Poeltl 80 million over 4 was a clear indication that Masai thinks he can compete with this squad
TorontoRaptors15
WHY!?
BIKETYSON99
They don’t. Masai is stretching this trust the owners have in him as far as he can. 1 more season probably.
TJStrawberry
So first it was no C, then it was nick nurse, now it’s FVV who was the problem? We just don’t have a damn superstar. Just two fringe all stars.. well 1 fringe star now
noronto
My ex wife always said “addition by subtraction”….(I was the subtraction).
octopus86sg
Believe in them for not tanking and losing FVV for nothing?
ichez5
Don’t believe anything the FO says. They fucked up and they know it. They’re basically bluffing and trying to save face.
The can believe all they want but the results are what matter and those have been bad. Eventually they will have to own up to it.
markr6629
Well, they dont
boenwip
So what happens if this team doesn’t even reach playoffs? We didn’t get stronger, unless they really believe it was the coach.
The rest of the east continues to capitalise in the off season – we’ve essentially done nothing that moves the needle
Staplersarefun
Masai is an absolute goon.
Busy-Tangerine6706
Man this sub is such an absolute downer. I don’t think I’ve seen anything positive said in a LONG time. How about we at least have a some optimism that maybe things will be fun to watch with the new coach. Perhaps certain guys will be happier with their role and happier within the system and culture that hopefully the franchise is trying to build again.
Puzzleheaded_Heron_5
You guys really eat up everything the media gives you. The front office will never admit to giving up on the team until they pull the trigger, otherwise they lose all the leverage. But you guys fall for the bait everytime.
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I need someone to believe in me like Masai believes in this core
when you realize FVV wasn’t the only gambling addict on the team, FVV actually knew what he’s doing and it’s the FO that needs an intervention.
We’ll see, guys are gonna have to step up.
Rumours say they are still evaluating
lost to a god awful bulls team on home court to make the playoffs, picked in the lottery…LOST talent via free agency … and this FO thinks we can compete….
We lost Kawhi, Danny, Lowry, Gasol, Ibaka, Norm, FVV and Nurse from the championship team but Masai is still delusional enough to believe that we can compete for another championship? Just trade Siakam already and let’s get this rebuild started.
Oof. Compete for a play-in win maybe.
man we must have one of the dumbest front offices if they really believe a team minus fvv can compete with giannis , miami with lillard etc .
I’m not really liking the direction we took. Shroder is decent but I feel like there were better alternatives including getting one through a trade. Do you think the Pelicans would do this: https://i.imgur.com/5VK4G0o.png
It’s sad how delusional Masai is
Honestly feel bad for Darko, first season coming in, has all this pressure to turn around a 10th seeded team, losing their second best player probably for nothing, and turn it all around with barely any changes
If that is actually true, then this front office needs to be put down, as they’ve lost all objectivity. If they actually believe that after last year, then I don’t know what evidence could possibly convince them otherwise, there might be none, they might just be *that* deluded. Who would have thought that re-signing Masai would fuck the team over this bad.
LMAO they are absolutely delusional. What the hell has happened to Masai?
At this point I believe Masai and Bobby have a mandate to maintain competitiveness soo MLSE can continue to sell tickets at ludicrous prices.
I just don’t believe Masai and Bobby believe this team is worth keeping together
https://preview.redd.it/1kmavxij3f9b1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=aa0428571389921aa9c46490176081722109498c
We could miss the playoffs entirely next year and Masai will still believe in this core and run it back
FO trying to save face after yesterday lol.
The FO is fiending for that Christmas bonus
The Raptors FO can believe in that all they want, but less and less people will believe in THEM over time, and that includes journalists and people in MLSE. The outcome of this year falls 100 percent on their shoulders this time around.
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LO
Theres still people here who yell run it back lmao
Someone please get Masai on his meds man
lol
As much as its going to suck to watch, we probably need them to be terrible early next year to have any shot of convincing the FO to do the right thing at the deadline.
Which, given the roster construction, isn’t really that far-fetched.
Gary Trent Jr heaven help us
“I dream like they dream” -Masai Ujiri
Such a disappointing thing to read tbh. It’s obviously to literally everyone except our front office that this core doesn’t have what it takes to compete as currently constructed. Sucks because they’re not even fun to watch, so it’s even worse.
Massive L
I’m betting the Over when the odds are set at 42 wins.
This can work well if you know the vibes
Explain to me why it’s always the front office that gets blamed when ownership also gets a say in the direction they want to take the team in? I understand front office hasn’t made the best decision but from what I understand the owners want to be contenders rather than rebuild.
I believe in this core, its a 50+ wing team next year. Stop the group think, assess the team.
Nurse: this team needs more talent, I can’t win with this team
Masai: watch me run it back with less talent
Joke. The front office needs to be removed.
I love delusion
🤡
Giving Poeltl 80 million over 4 was a clear indication that Masai thinks he can compete with this squad
WHY!?
They don’t. Masai is stretching this trust the owners have in him as far as he can. 1 more season probably.
So first it was no C, then it was nick nurse, now it’s FVV who was the problem? We just don’t have a damn superstar. Just two fringe all stars.. well 1 fringe star now
My ex wife always said “addition by subtraction”….(I was the subtraction).
Believe in them for not tanking and losing FVV for nothing?
Don’t believe anything the FO says. They fucked up and they know it. They’re basically bluffing and trying to save face.
The can believe all they want but the results are what matter and those have been bad. Eventually they will have to own up to it.
Well, they dont
So what happens if this team doesn’t even reach playoffs? We didn’t get stronger, unless they really believe it was the coach.
The rest of the east continues to capitalise in the off season – we’ve essentially done nothing that moves the needle
Masai is an absolute goon.
Man this sub is such an absolute downer. I don’t think I’ve seen anything positive said in a LONG time. How about we at least have a some optimism that maybe things will be fun to watch with the new coach. Perhaps certain guys will be happier with their role and happier within the system and culture that hopefully the franchise is trying to build again.
You guys really eat up everything the media gives you. The front office will never admit to giving up on the team until they pull the trigger, otherwise they lose all the leverage. But you guys fall for the bait everytime.