https://theathletic.com/4669661/2023/07/06/nba-free-agency-questions-hollinger/
JV has been discussed here as a potential stopgap 5 for the Mavs. Interestingly, I think that a Wood S+T could potentially work here. He would count as 14 million in outgoing salary (regardless of his new deal, matching JV), but if his new deal was for 10m or less per season it would take New Orleans under the tax line.
I don’t think THJ or Holmes is a fit in a trade with NO for the same reason, unless we were bringing back another player besides JV.
One other small snippet from the article:
>The VanVleet deal may look a lot better in 20-20 hindsight if Toronto can parlay Pascal Siakam or O.G. Anunoby into a good guard who can shoot.
Hey Masai: can I interest you in one Tim Hardaway Junior? /s
by Crown_of_Negativity
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Maybe as a worst case scenario jv would be fine, but ideally capela or allen would be perfect
Isn’t JV more of a scoring big and not really a good defender? The reports were that we are looking for someone good in the pick and roll and defense.
I guess I would take him if no one else was available, but wouldn’t be my first choice. And it’s not possible to sign and trade Wood for him without dumping McGee.
Jv is just another Wood. Doesn’t play defense nor doesn’t care about it and has bad attitude about itm
We coppin ciun
I’m a little surprised that people aren’t happy with the idea of Valanciunas. I mean, the type of C that would be perfect for us – as in young, athletic, highly switchable while able to drop in fast and protect the paint, above average screener and rebounder while being able to shoot the 3 or at least have some jumper – is the rarest of the rare breeds. From the top of my head, only Embiid, Jokic, Myles Turner, WCJ, Ayton, Claxton and Bam would fit the bill (or at least the majority of it) and, be if for the salary or for the assets required, neither are attainable.
Therefore, it is a given conclusion that we will need to bring someone incomplete and attainable without a lot of decent assets. The high-end guys that I would love here probably are not available (other than the aforementioned WCJ, Timelord and Stewart), so we will need to either roll with an undersized guy that is highly switchable or a more classic C, where we cal focus our defense into funneling guys on the inside.
In this breed of C, Allen is the jewel, but I disagree when people say that he is attainable easily. Cavs cannot roll with Mobley at the 5 at this point and they are not punting the season after the investment they made on Mitchell. Same applies for the Knicks and giving up on Mitchell Robinson for cheap. Memphis will not trade Adams to a conference rival and one sneaky cheap option, Zach Collins, will start for the Spurs and be their main core into alleviating the load on Wemby early.
So, we are back to 4 guys: Zubac, Valanciunas, Nurkic and Capela and I, being entirely honest, can’t see that much of a difference between the 4. All 4 would bring POA interior defense, gorgeous rebounding, a glove fit in the pick n’roll, a decent role model for Lively to mimic (specially with his bad screening at college) and neither the ego nor the salary to not be benched when Lively is ready or when we are required to exceptionally go small. All 4 will suffer when switched on unless there is perimeter coverage, which we should have with the Green – OMax – Maxi – Grant wing rotation (I don’t even think we’re bringing a SF anymore, OMax can play the 3 just fine, specially with Exum easing up his usage early on).
I legit cannot see the huge difference that makes Capela a fan favorite and Valanciunas be frowned upon. If the Pels release Valanciunas for Timmy, Holmes and some SRPs while Atlanta is delusional about asking for Green or a FRP, I would be more than happy with Valanciunas. Honestly, all of the attainable C will bring similar positives and negatives and all 4 of them fits the bill of being a stop gap until Lively is physically and mentally ready to start on an NBA court.
Edit: I was an idiot who did not even stop to see his contract. No way we can give the Pels tax relief and we have no one to actually make them look as a positive net return talent-wise. We’re out of this race.
Meh he’d be okay if we really can’t make a deal for allen/capela/ayton but he doesn’t really give us what we’re looking for in a C.
Fellas he rebounds like an absolute beast. That’s literally what the mavs need. If the mavs can get him as a stop gap center, they should do it if a deal can be made that works for both sides
I think he’d be good actually. He’s a good rebounder, can score and can even shoot threes. Not a good defender, but we have some good wing defenders now.
I love Val’s game. I think he would work great here. Can stretch the floor and shoot the 3 but can also do traditional big man shit. One of the better passing bigs in the league and knows how to get steals in the passing lanes
If the mavs can find a way to get JV we are cooking with gas here.
JV would fit easily on the roster, not a lock down presence in the paint. But can score, set good screens and most Importantly REBOUND.
If we can get him on the cheap or discounted, he would be a great addition.
I’m a bigger JV fan than most on this sub I think. He’s a big reason the Pels had success when Zion went down. Yeah he’s not a defensive star or anything, but he averages about 10 boards a game and can bang down low if he has to. In fact he’s averaged a double double each of the last 5 seasons. Can hit from 3 and space the floor. The biggest knock I see is that occasionally he struggles with foul trouble. But that’s offset by those games where he goes absolutely bonkers once in a while out of nowhere.
I would 100% take him to start over any C on our roster any day of the week and twice on Sunday. 2 years left at about 15MM/yr is pretty palatable too. I would be absolutely hyped to have him.
I’d definitely take JV. Gives us an extra bit of scoring and he’s a great rebounder. On top of that, he has no issue doing what it takes to fit into a system as best as he’s able.
I would nut through pants made of burlap if the Mavs could get JV.
Valanciunas would be fine…i’m surprised there’s not more mention of Daniel Gafford TBH.
He seems like he’s be pretty attainable since the Wizards went full on rebuild mode. He’s also young, and is good-to-great at the things the Mavs need more of at center (rebounding, defense, dunking everything within a 10-foot radius).
I think JV and Luka are buddies. I’d be okay with a one ish year for him as a stop gap. He’s not ideal but if we can get him for only giving up THJ/McGee you do it. Keep your picks and players like Green/Hardy
Wait JV on the market and we’re saying no?!
Dude is a bucket for a big man and can do it all.
Rebound, pass, shoot. Come on man.
JV IS GOATED PLS
I love JV. My reasoning is so silly too (yes he has value and skills) but about two years ago we were playing the Pels and Jeff Skin Wade goes “Fun Fact…Valančiūnas’ beard is actually made of tree bark” I spit out my drink laughing. But in all seriousness he can help.