Barry Jackson on Twitter: As of midweek, Portland had been unmotivated to engage with Heat or try to get this done. Maybe they hope this plays out like Durant last summer & they cajole him to start season with team. If so, then it’s in Dame’s hands, whether he reports to camp, makes public comment
As of midweek, Portland had been unmotivated to engage with Heat or try to get this done. Maybe they hope this plays out like Durant last summer & they cajole him to start season with team. If so, then it's in Dame's hands, whether he reports to camp,makes public comment etc https://t.co/CCZOZBYRuV
— Barry Jackson (@flasportsbuzz) July 14, 2023
by KingJarrah06
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Fuck Cronin and also Pat Riley wake up and send the house
this is gonna get uglier isn’t it
They actually wanna take this shit show into the season? Blazers are dumber than I thought
Going into training camp with this roster after it’s public knowledge that Bam and Jimmy want Dame here is awkward
“Portland had been unmotivated to engage with Heat or try to get this done”
This is beyond petty at this point lmao, bro is literally ghosting. Unserious GM and franchise
Why would they even want him there with all there young guys
I’m actually getting scared that Dame will just cave and come to training camp
Cronin is such a bitch. I don’t want to send him either of Tre J or Jovic cause he’s such a loser. This goes beyond standing firm. Such a loser
The front office is probably lowballing them hard. Probably trying to unload Duncan’s contract on them, not willing to take back Nurkic’s contract, and only offering 2 or 3 picks. They need to realize this isn’t gonna get done unless Portland is getting at least the value equivalent of like 5 first round picks. If Dame adds any other team to his list (particularly if that other team has an owner who isn’t cheap and would be willing to take on Nurkic’s contract) we could easily miss out on him.
Time for Dame to start making public comments. He should call and threaten to air everything out if they don’t get to the table with Miami.
Blazers obviously want to make this look really bad for Dame so he is pressured into either staying with the team, or choosing more teams. We’ll have to see what Dame does.
At some point, if things get worse (not yet), I think he would benefit from making a public comment about how badly they are treating him despite his loyalty over the last decade. He will need to tarnish their reputation to make them look bad to prospective free agents. That’s like worst case scenario though.
Dame’s agent has been a tough talker in the media. I dont think portland really believes everything he is saying. Blazers are going to wait this out and see if Dame is willing to lose money over this or not. Based off his what we know of Dame’s personality, which is he is a professional and that he loves to ball, I would strongly wager he starts the season with the Blazers.
Unmotivated to even engage sounds like Cronin is being a petty bitch
The deal is not gonna happen. If it happens( it wont ) it will be a very big haul just before trade deadline. Lets focus somewhere else
I honestly am starting to believe that we’re not gonna end up with him. I mean our offer doesn’t magically get better the longer this goes on. We’re pretty limited in what we can offer..
Doomsday scenario for the blazers is they try and play the long game for a better offer to come along. They call Dame’s bluff, and Dame gets hurt.
Blazers fan here. Lillard is on a 4-year deal without a no-trade clause. We all know the team’s going to be bad this coming year, we’ve embraced rebuild mode. Expectations are low, the front office can afford a disgruntled star. We want to ensure we don’t lose our best player in a deal that doesn’t help the rebuild.
Herro doesn’t fill a position of need with our young guys and draft picks 5-7 years from now don’t help the rebuild. We know Bam is off the table, but that means Riley needs to find someone else to take Herro in exchange for something that actually helps Cronin rebuild the team within the next few years.
Would we like to make a deal that makes Dame happy? Of course. We like Dame, some of our own base has been screaming to trade him for the past year or two just because we saw he wasn’t going to win here and think he deserves it. We also know that going young means we’ll be wasting Dame’s prime on a rebuild, and he’s more valuable at this point as a trade asset. Trading Dame makes sense. Trading Dame in a deal that doesn’t help build a team around Sharpe and Scoot doesn’t.
And look, I know every base has idiot fans and you can’t control them but if you’re thinking about coming to the ripcity sub to pretend to be a blazers fan and try to convince us that wrecking our franchise is a good idea to appease Dame or as a sacrificial offering to Riley – please don’t. It’s really obvious when another team’s fan doesn’t give a shit about the future of our franchise.
2 months away from training camp btw…plenty of time.
Lmao so basically this reveals the market really is Miami or Bust.
Cronin waiting for a made up offer.
I’m not sure why people are suggesting “the Blazers are gonna let this go to next season”. It’s over two months until the Blazers training camp will start and Dame requested a trade 12 days ago. Makes sense for them to wait a little while longer for an offer that they want, since ours clearly isn’t going away.
Even if they do wait, then what? They’ll send Dame home and just tank anyway. I’m not sure what kind of behaviour Dame would need to do to stunt Sharpe and Scoot’s development between now and 2029-30, when he will be retired.
We have the same roster as last year that was the eight seed, but have lost both our starting backcourt guys from the play offs plus Oladipo who played decent minutes in the regular season. Butler, Love and Lowry are only going to get worse, Herro is unsettled as Bam, Riley (and possibly Butler) want him traded.
“But free agents won’t go to Blazers” Portland have their guy and wouldn’t likely have to rely on it. Even if they wanted to they couldn’t as we saw Dame wasn’t able to land any in his time there – as players only go to the attractive cities (LA, MIA, NY) + Boston I’m free agency. Everyone says Spurs are the most players/family oriented team and they sent Kawhi to Toronto because he didn’t want to cripple himself for the Tony Parker’s retirement lap.
At any rate, it’s not as though there’s some unanimous criticism of Portland either for not letting someone demand to leave, pick only one destination and then determine who is part of the trade.
I’m still not convinced he’s coming here. And this isn’t me being negative, it’s being straight up.
Honestly? I’ve moved on. The first couple of days were f5 because a trade seemed imminent but clearly Portland thinks they can get a better deal. Our team has enough to be competitive so let’s just focus on funding our our roster. We’ve been left holding the bag too many times.
Portland has nothing to lose to drag it out they are straight tanking L. Probably prefer that dame sit at home
This thread feels like it’s half blazer fans
Edit: there’s a link to this post on the ripcity sub so it’s being somewhat brigaded.
It’s ok. We’ll wait. The leverage isn’t going to get better for them and we have all offseason. Don’t try and be petty with Pat Riley and play 5D chess when you’re a poverty organization with Zero advantage to press. Just let them tire themselves out. Worst case for us we run it back with a team that won the east from #8. Worst case for them they get stuck with an unhappy dame in their rebuild until a more “reasonable” offer lands, and they then alienate the cornerstone of the last decade for their franchise. They’re fucked regardless ATP.
This is annoying but not surprising. Portland’s GM is trying hard to act like he knows what he’s doing.
If it’s true that the Heat offered Herro (or Herro flipped for some team’s 1st) plus 3 firsts then I don’t understand why this guy isn’t negotiating in good faith. If Scoot is really going to be a star you can surround him with young talent and use the cap relief from trading Dame to sign a star in free agency when Scoot is maturing into his prime. The narrative that the Blazers are getting lowballed is bullshit.
I doubt they’re very far off. Heat probably haven’t offered JJJ or Jovic, Blazers are probably asking for both. Blazers probably want the Heat to take Nurkic, Heat probably aren’t offering.
Both sides will compromise at some point and the deal will get done. Still, it’s only a matter of time before Shams reports “Lillard will not play for the Blazers organization moving forward” and then it just gets uglier. I think everyone wants to avoid that.
Smart of them, there’s no rush on their end. The deal can only get better
At the end of the day, as much as we hate to admit it, what motivation is there to have, they don’t HAVE to trade him, Portland is a tanking team, with or without Dame so.
That’s exactly what Portland is trying to do. They have 0 intention of ever trading him, especially not to Miami.
It’s going to be up to Dame to decide where he wants to take this.