[Article](https://www.channel3000.com/news/shareable-stories/bronny-james-911-call-cardiac-arrest/article_3310ce3c-7328-51d9-88f0-c1b76afa955e.html#1).
This was discussing Bronny’s cardiac arrest, and the doctor brought this up.
by mavsman221
@National Basketball Association
32 Comments
>”for reasons that we don’t fully understand”
I would assume that means there isn’t much more info.
According to twitter mfs, its because of the “DEADLY” vaccine
My research indicates that it is caused by ligma
There was a long article on Truehoop yesterday that basically said that all basketball players are using PEDs, just like cyclists used to (and maybe still do)
You’re suggesting a subreddit full of non-heart doctors might have some inside info that eludes actual heart doctors?
In my non professional opinion, some diseases or health issues are more prevalent in some races than others.
I am very doubtful basketball, the activity itself, is the cause.
Edit: I just did a Google search and apparently Black adults are more likely than White adults to die from a heart attack. [My Google search.](https://www.google.com/search?q=why+are+african+american+more+prone+to+heart+disease&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS916US916&ei=7-jDZOCqOMiJptQP7oyu8Ao&oq=are+african+americans+more+susceptible+to+h&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiK2FyZSBhZnJpY2FuIGFtZXJpY2FucyBtb3JlIHN1c2NlcHRpYmxlIHRvIGgqAggAMgYQABgWGB4yCBAAGIoFGIYDSPeTAVDSB1jLhQFwA3gBkAEAmAGgAaAByyOqAQQ1NC41uAEByAEA-AEBqAIKwgIWEAAYAxiPARjqAhi0AhiMAxjlAtgBAcICFhAuGAMYjwEY6gIYtAIYjAMY5QLYAQHCAggQABiKBRiRAsICBxAAGIoFGEPCAhEQLhiABBixAxiDARjHARjRA8ICDhAuGMcBGLEDGNEDGIAEwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwHCAg4QLhiABBixAxjHARjRA8ICCxAuGIAEGLEDGIMBwgIREC4YgAQYsQMYgwEYxwEYrwHCAgUQLhiABMICCBAAGIAEGMkDwgIIEAAYigUYkgPCAgcQLhiKBRhDwgIIEAAYgAQYsQPCAgUQABiABMICFhAuGIoFGEMYlwUY3AQY3gQY4ATYAQLCAgsQLhiKBRixAxiDAcICCBAuGIAEGLEDwgILEAAYigUYsQMYgwHCAgsQLhiABBixAxjUAuIDBBgAIEGIBgG6BgQIARgKugYGCAIQARgU&sclient=gws-wiz-serp)
doing a ton of cardio and PEDs
Any chance the sickle cell trait is a factor here?
Football has more down time, and soccer has a lower percentage of its players being black. If I’m trying to grasp for reasons why it might show up at a lower rate in those sports.
All for one he’s LeBron James’s son so he’s probably using PED’s like his dad.
Two the rate of myocarditis and pericarditis have gone way up since 2021ish
Three basketballs are pretty tough sport and a lot of these guys are doing pretty intense workouts to get themselves into better shape and push themself past the point of no return.
From a 2014 New Yorker article discussing the quoted doctor’s research:
> Harmon thinks that as researchers look at why people die when playing basketball as opposed to other sports, the results will show that, at times, genetic abnormalities are to blame, such as Marfan syndrome (because most players are tall) and hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (because most are African-American). Basketball has a much higher ratio of African-Americans than other sports, even football, Harmon said. But Drezner and Harmon’s statistics indicate that all Division I male basketball players, black or white, have an increased risk of sudden cardiac death, even though many of them possess no genetic defects.
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> To that end, Drezner and Harmon started looking into reasons other than genetics that might give basketball players a higher risk of S.C.D. In their studies, they found something even more confounding; Division I athletes had a higher rate of S.C.D. than Division II athletes, who, in turn, had a higher rate than those in Division III. Drezner and Harmon agree that the discrepancy may be related to the fact that journalists tend to cover more high-profile cardiac incidents (those in Division I schools) than those at lesser-known Division III schools, thereby increasing the number of reported cases. However, there may also be differing risks at different skill levels.
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> According to Drezner and Harmon, Division I teams, on average, spend much more time training than their Division III counterparts. Just as accruing more hours in a car would increase a person’s chance of a fatal accident, the more time that at-risk basketball players spend exposed to the sport, the more likely they may be to suffer an S.C.D. However, Drezner and Harmon warn that there is currently insufficient data to prove this hypothesis.
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> Another theory is that basketball players’ movement patterns are different from those of other athletes. The constant stop-and-start surges of high intensity, with marked changes in dynamics such as running and jumping, seem distinctive. In football, for instance, the average play might last six seconds. In basketball, minutes may go by before there is a break. Soccer and lacrosse players are spread wide on a field, while basketball players are confined to a small, hardwood court, giving them less time to decelerate. Basketball players generally change their speed much more frequently than, say, cross-country runners, which may lead to increased variations in basketball players’ heart rates.
https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/death-on-the-basketball-court
Doesn’t being a giant human mean your heart is bound to have more problems?
It’s the aliens
A potential guess, increased strain on the heart due to the size of basketball players in combination with the necessary cardio requirements for the sport, along with the game becoming truly season-less for a lot of players involved in AAU/etc.
I’m certainly not a doctor, but would the fact that that nearly all basketball players are wayy taller than the average human contribute to a greater likelihood of heart failure? Big people have bigger hearts pumping harder to get the blood throughout their entire bodies?
In my experience, all of my highest heart rates have been playing basketball. I’ve never gone above 185 heart rate cycling both on stationary or on super long road rides where I push my limits. Basketball I’ve been well above 190 and had to sit down. Lots of caffeine use by basketball teams and energy drinks combined with it being a pretty high cardio sport with little downtime compared to football or soccer probably doesn’t help.
I’m a doctor working for several NBA teams. The leading theory is that they didn’t eat enough wheaties growing up. #BreakfastMatters
Booze, Basketball, and Babes=Cardiac arrest
I’m not an expert but if I had to make a guess, it probably has to do with the high amount of cardio exercises that basketball players do, compared to baseball/football/hockey/etc players. I’ve always thought that basketball is the hardest sport to transition to from another sport bcuz of how much cardio and endurance you need to have to be a basketball player. I mean you’re constantly running back and forth- imagine the amount of running you do if you play 30 mins in a game. All of that, mixed with the workouts specifically designed to endure that, must be strenuous on the heart. Soccer/Fútbol is the only other sport that I’d say requires a high level of cardio like basketball
Again I’m not an expert, just a [barely] educated guess
Myocarditis amongst young athletes is on the rise.
It’s okay to understand that the coronavirus vaccine saved a ton of lives while at the same time knowing it also put a small percentage of lives at risk as well.
This may or may not be the case here.
The deadly retroactive Covid vaccine. The mRNA lets it reach back through time to harm people. Nasty stuff. Pfizer is out of control
I’m general, tall skinny males are more at risk for things like sudden pneumothorax and I believe congenital heart defects, but don’t quote me on the last part. Honestly, short kings got it good
Oh come on blame it on the vaccine already.
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Super tall men don’t live long in general. It’s a lot of work for the heart to pump blood throughout such huge frames.
I wonder if it’s cause they’re tall and exercise 🤯
Chael Sonnen MMA fighter gave his opinion about steroids.
Any thought to the vibrations from the floor effecting the heart’s beating rhythm?
Heart disease is the leading cause of death in the World. Heart Disease is the leading cause of death in men. African American men are ,one of, if not the most affected by heart disease. Until a correlation is made let’s assume it’s a genetic condition he inherited or something dietary
My two guesses are these kids are training far too hard/much and putting unnecessary strain on their hearts or it’s because of drugs, more as in steroids.
Likely a combination of both and to those who may already be at risk, likely due to genetics, are at an even higher risk.
Steroids
I personally knew a kid who suddenly died of heart attack during a game several years ago..
https://www.gmanetwork.com/ncaa/sports/content/492810/jru-high-school-player-dies-after-collapsing-during-game/story/
As a 47 year old male, former athlete and coach I have a theory but most kids (I’m sorry but if you’re under the age of 25 you’re a kid to me) aren’t going to like it. It has to do with how you were raised, pampered and protected as children. Also most athletes now a days train way too much and work out way too much. You’re developing muscles at an earlier age and it’s putting a strain on your body. Now I ain’t no doctor and it’s just my theory but it’s also the reason I feel there are a lot more serious injuries now compared to when I played. Your body needs time to develop and grow at a safe rate…. You shouldn’t push it.
Stress to perform? If I am not wrong, too much stress does cause heart attacks, right?