Seth Partnow is a notorious Knicks hater and a hack, don’t give this shit any attention
Solyanow
Markkanen in Chicago ? Didn’t know that 🤦🏻♂️🤡
spilled-Sauce
what happened to tier 2?
Knicksfanhart
It’s almost as if delusional Randle stans don’t understand high level basketball. This list is not shocking to people who have working eyes and watch randle closely.
Knickerbockers-94
Prime Randle is better than Siakam
starks3_
“These are not intended as rankings for a “franchise redraft” exercise, nor are they meant to represent trade value. Rather, the specific question being asked is: Assuming the player is healthy and paired with competitive teammates, which players provide the most value toward winning a title?”
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“The levels are inclusive, so the first two groups — Tiers 1 and 2 — typically make up the top 20 players in the league, give or take.
I don’t apply this research literally, as my version of player tiers is more concerned with playoff competitiveness than regular-season win accumulation. While the two are often related, raw production value will underrate a player such as Kawhi Leonard, who isn’t going to rack up 3,000 minutes or anything close even without an acute injury. On the other hand, Julius Randle, who finished 17th (Tier 2 range) in the league in “EPM Wins” — more on EPM in a second — will be ranked lower because that figure had more to do with him finishing fifth in the league in total minutes than his 37th place finish in the per possession impact version of EPM.”
And he has Randle in the 4B group, this is his explanation:
• Julius Randle is perhaps the best illustration of the differences between regular-season accumulation and impactful postseason play in the NBA. His high-volume, decent-efficiency skill set has proven extremely useful in two of the last three seasons. Combine this with Thibs-ian minute loads, and he has created tons of regular-season wins. But in the playoffs, the diet of tough isolation shots has caught up with him. Over the past three regular seasons and two accompanying playoff runs, he has held steady at 29.2 percent usage, but his 55.4 percent true shooting in the regular season (which incorporates 2021-22’s disastrous 50.9 percent) has fallen off a cliff to 46.2 percent across the two playoff runs.This is the very definition of a floor-raising but ceiling-limiting profile, a player type who is exceptionally hard to value through the prism of championship contention, as getting to the playoffs is the first step in winning a title, and having a regular-season innings-eater or two can help a team get to the postseason without overly taxing its top players.But building with or around such players is difficult, both because of the need to move away from their preferred style once the playoffs start and, more importantly, because players of this nature get paid handsomely for that regular-season accumulation. It’s simply not realistic to expect to be able to afford a championship roster knowing that a near-max-making regular-season workhorse is going to have to take a much smaller role if a team has designs on deep playoff runs.
WhoTookPlasticJesus
You know what, I’m just going to delete all the reasons I typed up to show that this list is dumb as shit, and just say that this list is dumb as shit.
JackMeHoff266
This list is a joke & at this point, Randle is starting to become underrated. A lot of the criticism is getting to the point that ppl are really forgetting what this dude is capable of
jeffschiller
Julius Dangerfield
zjl539
maybe its a postseason list?
salesmunn
Remember that people mention Knicks or completely exclude Knicks for attention. We’re the #1 fan base
Oliverqueen03
Zion doesn’t even play..lol
asapbuckets
If we swap Evan Mobley and Julius in last years playoffs do we still win the series?
insideman56
Randle is actually better than everyone on this list besides Giannis lol, so disrespectful
ArtieFoucault
Aaron Gordon just won a championship gaurding the best player on each team they played against and he’s below Zion who did fuck all coming into his fifth season in the league.
HardOakleyFoul
There is no plane of reality where KP or Aaron Gordon are better than Randle. And lol @ putting Mobley on there after THIS happened
I feel like Randle belongs in that fourth tier. He’s still productive and that has to count for something. Even if his game can be infuriating to watch on a daily basis, can’t be that petty to not acknowledge that he is as good as that bracket of players overall. In some aspects he’s better in others he’s worse so overall it averages out.
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Seth Partnow is a notorious Knicks hater and a hack, don’t give this shit any attention
Markkanen in Chicago ? Didn’t know that 🤦🏻♂️🤡
what happened to tier 2?
It’s almost as if delusional Randle stans don’t understand high level basketball. This list is not shocking to people who have working eyes and watch randle closely.
Prime Randle is better than Siakam
“These are not intended as rankings for a “franchise redraft” exercise, nor are they meant to represent trade value. Rather, the specific question being asked is: Assuming the player is healthy and paired with competitive teammates, which players provide the most value toward winning a title?”
—
“The levels are inclusive, so the first two groups — Tiers 1 and 2 — typically make up the top 20 players in the league, give or take.
I don’t apply this research literally, as my version of player tiers is more concerned with playoff competitiveness than regular-season win accumulation. While the two are often related, raw production value will underrate a player such as Kawhi Leonard, who isn’t going to rack up 3,000 minutes or anything close even without an acute injury. On the other hand, Julius Randle, who finished 17th (Tier 2 range) in the league in “EPM Wins” — more on EPM in a second — will be ranked lower because that figure had more to do with him finishing fifth in the league in total minutes than his 37th place finish in the per possession impact version of EPM.”
And he has Randle in the 4B group, this is his explanation:
• Julius Randle is perhaps the best illustration of the differences between regular-season accumulation and impactful postseason play in the NBA. His high-volume, decent-efficiency skill set has proven extremely useful in two of the last three seasons. Combine this with Thibs-ian minute loads, and he has created tons of regular-season wins. But in the playoffs, the diet of tough isolation shots has caught up with him. Over the past three regular seasons and two accompanying playoff runs, he has held steady at 29.2 percent usage, but his 55.4 percent true shooting in the regular season (which incorporates 2021-22’s disastrous 50.9 percent) has fallen off a cliff to 46.2 percent across the two playoff runs.This is the very definition of a floor-raising but ceiling-limiting profile, a player type who is exceptionally hard to value through the prism of championship contention, as getting to the playoffs is the first step in winning a title, and having a regular-season innings-eater or two can help a team get to the postseason without overly taxing its top players.But building with or around such players is difficult, both because of the need to move away from their preferred style once the playoffs start and, more importantly, because players of this nature get paid handsomely for that regular-season accumulation. It’s simply not realistic to expect to be able to afford a championship roster knowing that a near-max-making regular-season workhorse is going to have to take a much smaller role if a team has designs on deep playoff runs.
You know what, I’m just going to delete all the reasons I typed up to show that this list is dumb as shit, and just say that this list is dumb as shit.
This list is a joke & at this point, Randle is starting to become underrated. A lot of the criticism is getting to the point that ppl are really forgetting what this dude is capable of
Julius Dangerfield
maybe its a postseason list?
Remember that people mention Knicks or completely exclude Knicks for attention. We’re the #1 fan base
Zion doesn’t even play..lol
If we swap Evan Mobley and Julius in last years playoffs do we still win the series?
Randle is actually better than everyone on this list besides Giannis lol, so disrespectful
Aaron Gordon just won a championship gaurding the best player on each team they played against and he’s below Zion who did fuck all coming into his fifth season in the league.
There is no plane of reality where KP or Aaron Gordon are better than Randle. And lol @ putting Mobley on there after THIS happened
https://youtube.com/shorts/3Abwp92HS7o?feature=share
I feel like Randle belongs in that fourth tier. He’s still productive and that has to count for something. Even if his game can be infuriating to watch on a daily basis, can’t be that petty to not acknowledge that he is as good as that bracket of players overall. In some aspects he’s better in others he’s worse so overall it averages out.
Tier 2 is missing lol