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[POSTGAME THREAD] Our Milwaukee Bucks (5-4) fall to the Orlando Magic (5-4) – 97 -112 – 11/11/2023


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|[](/MIL) **97 – 112** [](/ORL)|
|**Box Scores: [NBA](http://www.nba.com/game/mil-vs-orl-0022300173/box-score#box-score) & [Yahoo](http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/milwaukee-bucks-orlando-magic-2023111219)**|

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|**GAME SUMMARY**|
|**Location:** Amway Center(19354)|
|**Officials:** JB DeRosa, Ed Malloy and Suyash Mehta|

|**Team**|**Q1**|**Q2**|**Q3**|**Q4**|**Total**|
|:—|:–|:–|:–|:–|:–|
|Milwaukee Bucks|25|24|23|25|97|
|Orlando Magic|29|36|23|24|112|

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|**TEAM STATS**|

|**Team**|**PTS**|**FG**|**FG%**|**3P**|**3P%**|**FT**|**FT%**|**OREB**|**TREB**|**AST**|**PF**|**STL**|**TO**|**BLK**|
|:–|:–|:–|:–|:–|:–|:–|:–|:–|:–|:–|:–|:–|:–|:–|
|Milwaukee Bucks|97|38-77|49.4%|9-29|31%|12-25|48%|5|49|24|24|9|19|6|
|Orlando Magic|112|36-84|42.9%|10-26|38.5%|30-35|85.7%|15|56|24|17|9|13|1|

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|**PLAYER STATS**|

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**[](/MIL) Milwaukee Bucks**|**MIN**|**PTS**|**FGM-A**|**3PM-A**|**FTM-A**|**ORB**|**DRB**|**REB**|**AST**|**STL**|**BLK**|**TO**|**PF**|**+/-**|
|Khris Middleton^SF|19:34|10|4-8|2-4|0-0|0|0|0|7|0|1|1|1|-3|
|Giannis Antetokounmpo^PF|36:35|35|15-22|0-1|5-12|2|8|10|7|4|2|6|4|-11|
|Brook Lopez^C|21:14|9|3-7|2-5|1-2|0|3|3|1|1|2|1|1|-7|
|Malik Beasley^SG|20:13|0|0-4|0-3|0-0|0|2|2|1|0|0|1|3|-6|
|Cameron Payne^PG|25:34|14|6-8|2-3|0-0|0|0|0|2|2|0|2|3|-8|
|Jae Crowder|16:55|1|0-1|0-1|1-2|0|2|2|0|0|0|0|0|-13|
|Bobby Portis|27:37|13|4-11|2-5|3-4|1|6|7|1|2|0|2|4|-6|
|MarJon Beauchamp|19:40|5|2-7|0-2|1-3|1|3|4|0|0|0|3|2|-19|
|Pat Connaughton|15:37|3|1-3|0-1|1-2|0|3|3|1|0|0|0|2|-11|
|Andre Jackson Jr.|13:58|4|2-3|0-1|0-0|1|2|3|0|0|0|2|2|+2|
|AJ Green|09:29|3|1-3|1-3|0-0|0|2|2|2|0|0|0|0|+5|
|Thanasis Antetokounmpo|09:41|0|0-0|0-0|0-0|0|0|0|2|0|1|1|2|+6|
|Chris Livingston|03:53|0|0-0|0-0|0-0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|-4|
|Robin Lopez|00:00|0|0-0|0-0|0-0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
|Lindell Wigginton|00:00|0|0-0|0-0|0-0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
|Marques Bolden|00:00|0|0-0|0-0|0-0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
|Damian Lillard|00:00|0|0-0|0-0|0-0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
|TyTy Washington Jr.|00:00|0|0-0|0-0|0-0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
**[](/ORL) Orlando Magic**|**MIN**|**PTS**|**FGM-A**|**3PM-A**|**FTM-A**|**ORB**|**DRB**|**REB**|**AST**|**STL**|**BLK**|**TO**|**PF**|**+/-**|
|Franz Wagner^SF|38:00|24|8-16|2-6|6-7|0|6|6|3|1|0|3|2|+3|
|Paolo Banchero^PF|38:16|24|9-21|2-5|4-5|3|9|12|5|1|0|3|2|+10|
|Goga Bitadze^C|21:07|4|2-6|0-0|0-0|5|4|9|2|2|0|1|2|+4|
|Jalen Suggs^SG|38:23|20|5-11|2-4|8-10|0|2|2|2|1|0|1|0|+10|
|Anthony Black^PG|28:09|2|1-3|0-1|0-0|0|0|0|3|0|0|1|2|+6|
|Joe Ingles|23:29|5|1-5|1-4|2-2|1|2|3|5|0|0|0|1|+8|
|Jonathan Isaac|17:15|10|3-10|2-4|2-2|3|2|5|0|2|1|0|4|+9|
|Cole Anthony|14:03|4|0-3|0-1|4-4|0|2|2|3|1|0|3|2|+14|
|Moritz Wagner|21:18|19|7-9|1-1|4-5|3|1|4|1|1|0|1|2|+11|
|Markelle Fultz|00:00|0|0-0|0-0|0-0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
|Caleb Houstan|00:00|0|0-0|0-0|0-0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
|Jett Howard|00:00|0|0-0|0-0|0-0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
|Chuma Okeke|00:00|0|0-0|0-0|0-0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
|Wendell Carter Jr.|00:00|0|0-0|0-0|0-0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
|Gary Harris|00:00|0|0-0|0-0|0-0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
|Kevon Harris|00:00|0|0-0|0-0|0-0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
|Trevelin Queen|00:00|0|0-0|0-0|0-0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
|Admiral Schofield|00:00|0|0-0|0-0|0-0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|

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45 Comments

  1. Don’t think Griffin is a very good head coach

  2. GiannisIsTheBeast

    Why do we get blown out so much 😭😭😭

  3. bobhope18

    It has been pretty frustrating watching the bucks these last nine games, but people need to chill.

    While the bucks have struggled their definitely has been bright spots. The Bucks have been great in the clutch, both offensively and defensively, and while the clutch offense can be attributed to Dame, the clutch defense is thanks to AG. These last two games sucked but we almost certainly beat the Pacers if one of Dame or Griffin were around in the 4th quarter(Prunty had awful rotations and Griffins rotations have been quite good, especially at the end of games). And we were missing Dame tonight against the Magic.

    I know everyone wants to fire Griffin but remember, in 21-22 first year Celtics head coach Ume Udoka went 18-21,
    everyone was saying that Ume was out of his depth and that he sucked as a head coach, Ume improved the Celtics then preceded to turn it around and beat the Bucks in the playoffs and go to the finals. The Bucks have just as good of a roster as the 21-22 Celtics and I trust that Griffin can improve, and if he doesn’t then we can fire him at the all-star break, but everyone doesn’t need to be so doomer, its basketball have some fun.

  4. It’s early yes but the teams looks off still. Idk if no one is buying int AG or what but goddamn

  5. TurboShorts

    I’m just sad. We should be so much better.

  6. Fantasy_Ball

    How we go from the best rebounding teams and one of the best defensive teams to the worst rebounding team and worst transition defence teams still makes no sense to me.

    I don’t get if this is the guys just not giving a shit about the regular season anymore because of the past or Griffin experimenting, whatever it is it needs to be fixed.

    Also we’re at our best with Brook and if a team goes small against us then take him off the floor but we’re doing him no favours with the position the coaching staff is putting him in.

    With all this, it’s still only the 9th game of the season or whatever vs the Magic out of 82. This isn’t going to matter.

  7. Reggieheathcliff

    All the evidence against Griffin is not looking good. Passed over 10+ times for a head coaching gig, Terry Stotts leaving before the season, defense giving up 120 ppg, last in rebounding, negative point differential with a winning record, 2nd last in fast break points per game, 3rd last in assists, players telling him how to adjust (Brook in drop, report tonight of playing AJJ more, listening when a player wants to challenge), and just general dysfunction every game. At a certain point these are trends of bad coach. I hope not, but man….

  8. jordongeorge

    I really feel like some shake up might happen way earlier than some people are thinking. Bucks didn’t wait very long when we had D. J. Augustin and Torrey Craig and were playing like this. Something’s aren’t clicking and it’s pretty clear.

  9. Izanagi___

    That lineup in the 4th quarter was diabolical. I also never knew you can draw an offensive foul with your back towards the defender

  10. dampTendies

    My concern is at a 6.5 to maybe 7.

    Also, why is Giannis playing 37 minutes if we gave up on the game? Brook and Middleton played 20ish minutes and barely at all in the fourth.

  11. Last game of a road trip and no Dame but pathetic performance again. Even when we get the athletes on the floor with Giannis at the 5 like people want, the defence is still suspect as hell. It doesn’t make sense how it can drop off this bad and the common denominator is the head coach unfortunately.

  12. ball_sweat

    Passed on the championship coach who outcoached the Jimmy/Embiid/Simmons Sixers, Coach Bud’s 60 win bucks, and a legendary Warriors team who is currently 7-1 with a rival team for Adrian Griffin

  13. realmarcusjones

    Griffin has the MLF thing of “always looks confused and doesn’t play his good players enough”. I’ve already had about enough of this guy

  14. ScrewAnalytics

    Imagine how electric the standing ovation will be for Buds first game back 😊

  15. beenhadballs

    I hope our staff is learning a ton from these early games and bizarre rotations. Its a very sound thing if we’re narrowing down what wont ever work with young guys. What i don’t hope is that we’re experimenting to hide the fact that we’re at a loss in winning games that arent’t on the backs of sheer performance and will.

  16. Mustard_Jam

    Every day it seems more and more like the Bucks messed up with Griffin. Simple as that.

    Defense is awful to the point the players have to tell him to change it. Offense is basically begging Giannis and Dame to play superhuman. Effort is lacking.

    It’s still early but at the same time it’s already over 10% and it still looks like a disaster. The Bucks have the worst differential of anyone inside the top 10, can barely beat mediocre to bad teams when they do win, and get blown out weekly.

    Things need to change ASAP

  17. 1998TimThomas

    I appreciate Griff giving Ajax, AJ, and Livingston some burn to give the team a spark. I hope he continues to adjust, and eventually phases out Pat, Payne and Beasley. Their defense is just so bad I’d love for the young guys to take their mins.

  18. Logical-Major1961

    If the bench players didn’t make it clear enough our biggest problem is hustle and one of our core defenders Brook Lopez dosent hustle a lot

    I believe that Griff’s coaching system will improve soon, especially with the works of our veterans

  19. Farjon29

    Adrian Griffin’s biggest weakness is that he doesn’t know how to use his personnel.

    It’s not a coincidence that after the first the best the Bucks played was with more defensive athletic wings playing, he literally planned to copy and paste Toronto’s gameplan in Milwaukee.

    He is getting better at it but at the same time how can a defensive coach not learn how to use different personnel.

  20. Our-Gardian-Angel

    *I said I wouldn’t judge this team until January*

    *I said I wouldn’t judge this team until January*

    *I said I wouldn’t judge this team until January*

    *I said I wouldn’t judge this team until January*

    *I said I wouldn’t judge this team until January*

    *I said I wouldn’t judge this team until January*

  21. Fresh-Bass-3586

    “It’s the 9th game” reminds me of “the bucks can’t keep missing all these 3s” vs the raptors.

  22. infasis

    At least it was fun to watch. (In a masochistic, Saturday night, sort of way.)
    Even with half of their team injured, the Magic are just too good.

  23. KMidds22

    We complained for years about Bud teams being too one-dimensional and only dominant in meaningless regular season games. Now, we have a new system and a coach willing to experiment with schemes/rotations, and fans are ready to throw themselves in front of bus because we’re losing games in November. It’s beyond comical, and all I can do is sit back with popcorn and marvel at how spoiled we’ve become as a fanbase.

  24. Fluffy-Way-2365

    Guys remember, when someone is driving on your ass, the best way to defend is turn your back, lean forward and wait.

    Certain charge.

  25. JG951519

    I posted a comment yesterday explaining all the problems and what was and wasn’t going to be fixed and got downvoted to hell and told outside.

    For those of y’all who think this team will be gelling by all star break with Griffin and fucking Prunty at the helm are gonna be in for one hell of a season.

  26. Fluffy-Way-2365

    We literally got cooked by Jaylen Sucks

  27. GodBlessThisGnome

    I think Nurse would have been good for Giannis even if they butted heads a bit. Griffin seems almost too player friendly.

  28. Fluffy-Way-2365

    I am taking bets. Are we conceding 70 or 75 points in the first half next game?

  29. Particle_Thrower

    Thinking that we should have gone with Nurse.

  30. Sure_Skill_1991

    how u lose a game against Orlando team that don’t have Wendell, Markelle, and Harris????

  31. aaalan71

    Still not like the decision of hire a rookie head coach for a championship or bust team instead of going for Nick Nurse when we have chance. That’s a good reminder why you don’t let your player involved in coach hiring process

  32. 1antinomy

    Griffin trying to “send a message” to the starters won’t go over well in that locker room

    That’s basically him throwing the players under the bus to take the attention off himself

    All they did was execute his terrible gameplan on offense & defense which got them blown out multiple times this season already

    He has NO cache to be pulling shit like that

    Magic had 3 bench players starting & multiple non-shooter playing, yet Griffin had no clue how to defend them

    Craziest part is that pretty much everyone looks worse than last season in some way, despite having mostly the same players

  33. FutureBrilliant5917

    It’s only a couple of games into the season until it isn’t . We’re at 10% of the season, yes, but just saying.
    I don’t like Griff until he proves me wrong.

  34. Fluffy-Way-2365

    We got comfortably blown out by the Raptors and the Celtics are terrorizing them right now, they are up like a million points.

    Are they rehearsing our annihilation or sth ?

  35. BaldiLocks316

    I’ll be worried on Christmas if we’re still this sloppy.

  36. West_Cryptographer25

    Watching Griffins presser and you just get the feeling like he doesn’t know what he’s doing. He’s got a track record of being a good motivator, but that’s usually an assistant coaches job. If the guy at the top doesn’t have supreme confidence in their own philosophy, the team lacks an identity. If it’s a first time head coach with this issue, it can either galvanize around him as the season progresses, or blow up right in their face. He’s got to figure out their bread and butter first, and then tinker from there. It’ll be interesting to see how long of a leash he has, since he’s Giannis’ guy after all. Also worth noting that may have factored into his willingness to sign another extension. Just kinda stings seeing what Nick Nurse is doing in Philly with a worse roster.

  37. TheIgnitor

    Bud laughing his ass off rn. (And he should be)

  38. 1antinomy

    Magic damn near putting their 3rd stringers out there is gonna lull seem people into a false belief that we just needed to “hustle” a bit more to win

    The game was practically over once AJJ & Green came in— it was just 16 minutes of garbage time instead of 12

  39. Templar_Gus

    Are the “real fans” allowing us to be mad yet or do we still have to uncritically praise Griffin?

  40. Wallyworld77

    ***If** we end up firing Griffin who would you want as HC?

    Stotts?

    Bud?

    Anyone Else?

    I really wanna see AJax and Marjon get some serious Burn but the comfort of having Bud back would calm down everything quick fast and in a hurry.

  41. Sax_addict

    Will never understand hiring a first year head coach for this team that is built to win now and urgently need to mesh the new superstar duo together. I’m all up for it if we were looking for a complete rebuild with young talent and no real expectations. This team does not look good at all. Hasn’t been one game where we just looked dominant.

  42. dskimilwaukee

    got downvoted last time and il still say it again. Adrian Griffin everyone. Trying to reinvent the wheel when we were winning with bud but just needed a few adjustments.

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