Coming off a game that saw the Nets shoot a ton of shots from beyond the arc, the Locked on Nets guys ask the question, “Has this strategy gone overboard?” for Jacque Vaughn and company?
It’s not a simple yes or no for Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, Spencer Dinwiddie, and the rest of the team. There are bigger factors at play including the personnel they are running out there, the overall skillsets, and who they even have available.
Plus, the guys talk about the return of Nic Claxton and what that means for the team.
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23 Comments
Ben Simmons for Marcus Smart feels like the best trade Brooklyn can make.
The Grizzlies are floundering without their star Ja due to his suspension and they lost their best center in Steven Adams for the season.
Brooklyn could offer them a short term solution to some of their problems in Simmons defense and playmaking.
Meanwhile Brooklyn gets one of the best defenders in the league in Marcus Smart.
Smart would help make Brooklyn's defense very strong 🔥….
A potential Mikal Bridges Cam Johnson Marcus Smart Cam Thomas and Nic Claxton rotation could be a lot of fun 🔥..
Smart brings a lot of important intangibles to a championship culture and it would still leave Brooklyn with a a good amount of draft capital to work with in getting a superstar to Brooklyn….
If Brooklyn management and Ben Simmons can't see a future together past next season this would be a good move for Brooklyn in protecting their future while maximizing on their present….
We need a reliable guy…Ben Simmons with these mysterious injuries is fuckin with me…ngl I think want Marcus Smart in Brooklyn for Ben..that’s a trade I would love to see. Yeah we lose size but we also gain defense and a 3 point shooter who actually WANTS to shoot and does it at least average…I’m not impressed with Ben…I also don’t like Jacque Vaughn that much either but that’s a whole other story
Way too much
I dont care bout bridges shots because we run no offense & hes still developing as a #1 option…..But his defense is what i dont like. one of the worst defenders on the team
Cam Johnson sucks man. let me remind yall he couldnt even take a starting spot from old man jae crowder in phoenix. The fact he suppose to be the #2 option n he cant shoot better than royce is crazy lol
And the opposing team knowing ben Simmons is not taking any 3’s this gives the other teams the advantage
One of the biggest keys to the Nets progress this season was suppose to be the return of our 3X all star Ben Simmons. After the hype, this past summer, many of his fans were actually gullible to believe he was going to take the league by storm. Unfortunately, his impact has just been a whimper, so far.
Take what the other team gives you. First and foremost, we need to make the shots we take…3 or 2. If we get open look 3s we need to nail them. We certainly did not do that in the wizards game. Mikail is so good in the mid range, let him go there as much as he wants.
Are we sure Ben Simmons is not having artifacts of his back injury again? I’m concerned about that. I’m not totally sold on the hip contusion.
With Simmons, lower disk protrusions don’t go away permanently. Any major impact to the lower back (including hips) can re-protrude those same disks. A surgery can only relive nerve impingement caused by disk protrusions. So unfortunately Ben’s disk issues can reoccur as they are chronic issues.
As an "old school" hoops fan, the sheer amount of threes can be nauseating when shots aren't falling. I do tend to agree with Doug that for this roster, the strategy is fine. That said, I want some players to have exceptions: Spencer, Cam T, and Bridges. Each of these guys are capable three-level scorers. If that 3 ball isn't falling, pump on the closeout and get either a mid or attack the basket.
For the rest of the team though (especially DFS, Royce, and even CJ), I'd probably say keep taking them especially if open.
No Doug. The 3 is worth 50 percent more IF you are shooting a certain percentage from the three-point shooting line. See this is the sort of thing that annoys people about analytics. It’s helpful to a degree up in until people start leaving out key points equation to make a point. Yes, if you can consistently hit three pointers at a 40% clip by all means keep taking three-pointers they’re better than a mid range shot. However, if you are shooting 30% from three and over 50% from two it is better to take two point shots. Also, a dunk or layup at the rim is always better than a three pointer. Why?! Because not only is it always a better percentage shot, but it also is the added factor of having a higher probability of being fouled which puts the other team add a disadvantage. See when you’re jacking up three-pointers at a low percentage and then on top of that you’re not getting to the free-throw line you’re shooting yourself in the foot in two different ways.
Here’s another disingenuous thing about shooting analytics. When they talk about it, they never seem to tell you when the trend line starts, and when it ends. They never admit that at some point it’s simply becomes about reputation. In other words how many games does a player have to play before you re-calibrate? So Cam Johnson was shooting 40% and higher when he was with the Suns but he hasn’t done that for the Nets and on top of that he struggled in the Olympics. What has happened is that every player gets the Steph Curry treatment where they can basically have a two year trend line where they can jack up three pointers below 40% before anybody says hey maybe you shouldn’t jack up threes anymore.
I’m fine with analytics but there should be some recalibration benchmark where you say hey a player has been shooting at under 35% from three for the last 30 games let’s not treat him like he’s shooting over 40% simply because a year ago he did so.
Look where we are in the NBA that even the great Popovich has fallen into the trap and he probably hates it. Victor Wembanyama is shooting 29% from three point but he’s taking over five a game. He is shooting over 50% from two point range and is almost an 80% free-throw shooter. Every time he takes three-point shots at 7 foot 4 he does the other team a favor.
We are at the point when even when it is statistically dumb to take threes teams do it anyway because it’s not actually about taking the best statistically shot it’s simply about what the modern NBA and new NBA heads stylistically like to watch.
Bruh y'all talk about oh it's the wizards bruh that's the problem they struggled with the "wizards"
prefer trading simmons. Must keep Nic Claxton and Thomas !!
Not just too many 3s too many bad 3s. I cringe whenever dinwiddie and Royce are launching from way beyond the arc. Do yourself a favor and get closer to the 3 pt line at least
We need another backup PG. DSJ isnt a great facilitator
Dunno…. but for sure when the threes aren't flowin, 2 pt buckets add up nicely. Very nicely.
If mikal is supposed to be the guy or one of the guys, he needs free reign to do what he’s comfortable with.
Also sometimes you just gotta take what the defense gives you. The math be damned.
Before the theme music plays, my answer is… 🤔… it doesn't matter. Vaughn's philosophy is to score as many points as possible. Why bother analyzing something so aimless?
2:08 Think back to the Irving/ Durant Error… two guys that feast in the mid-range surrounded by a bunch of 3pt shooting.
Our identity is aimlessly jacking up 3s with Ben and Thomas as the hub. I may watch it on television, but I ain't paying to see it in person
2:46 Is Mikal better as simply a guy jacking up 3s, or is Mikal better scoring in the mid-range?
He's a mid-range scoring Guard with subpar handles. Vaughn made him a 3&D Wing. If Marks loves mediocrity, stick with Vaughn and his 3pt shooting small-ball philosophy… 😠
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5:21 Easily the best strategy for us?! This is a recipe for frustrating mediocrity. Who's developing under this style of basketball? Thomas finally got some runway, Mikal is losing the grip he had on this team, and nobody else is becoming someone who can do something good with the ball outside of shooting.
Lonnie Walker, Spencer, and Cam Johnson should all be looked upon with Mikal and Thomas as players who get the ball, and they create. We have no real offensive system and nothing that should convince a Star to willingly sign here