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Golden State Warriors vs Portland Trail Blazers Recap | Blazers Uprise Postgame Show



Golden State Warriors vs Portland Trail Blazers Recap | Blazers Uprise Postgame Show

Hello everyone welcome to the Blazers uprise post game show can everyone see me is it going okay do you got me can I can see you can everyone hear us can you hear both R this is Rich from Rip City retro hey he is joining me today

Um audio seems quiet uh is it quiet for anyone else just want to make sure it’s going okay but you can hear me you can hear Rich everyone everything’s good all right good uh sorry everyone yeah let me know let me know let me know if you guys

Can’t hear me either and we’ll try to figure something out but hopefully it’s okay for everybody just my voice is quiet um if Tor is watching does anyone have do you have an answer for how I can fix that I will try to fix it on the Fly

Here you could just shout a lot I think that would probably a R rant for the entire show would probably fix it I mean it’s up to 100 I don’t understand if people if people are saying hi to me in the chat I see a couple of Hell uh what’s up folks it’s

Gonna be so hard for me to see any comments in chat because of my triple Vision so I apologize I I love each and every one of you I am typically here on most post games just lurking in the chat like a snake in the weeds uh but if I

Don’t shout back to you uh I apologize Eric will keep me up to date on what people are saying but it’s good to see everybody yeah okay so hopefully that’s okay I figured out how to turn Rich down a little bit to match mine and then you

Could turn the overall volume up maybe maybe that’ll work all right so after that choppy start uh yeah it’s been a while since I’ve had to go live by myself uh but figured out how to do all the graphics on the top and the bottom

And get rich to appear uh but uh thank you everyone for uh your patience while I got that all set up and thank you to Rich from Rip City retro for joining me tonight Tori is celebrating Christmas with his family he uh has a couple family members that are nurses that work

On Christmas so today is their big day to celebrate since they’ll both be working on actual Christmas so he is missing the stream for a very good reason and then uh yeah so um I originally asked crushable too if he wanted to do a Hoops Crush Edition

Because he knows how to set up he’s like yeah Rich you’re Richard is playing uh but anyways uh you bastard he uh the only reason why I I really wanted to do a post game with Rich but crushable knows how to do everything cuz a

YouTube you know how to go live rich but you don’t know how to put me on the screen so it’s true that’s the problem yeah and I I had to learn on the Fly how to do that as well so yeah we’re just trying to trying to get

Uh stream going right now it’s it’s the oldest postgame show ever and tonight yeah and uh so for those that don’t know Rich here uh why don’t you tell everyone a bit about about uh your uh yourself and your channel and all that good stuff Rich

Okay a little bit about myself uh well the condom broke uh so then my mom and dad no um I’m I’m I live I live in Los Angeles so yes I’m in enemy territory I’ve been a Blazers fan for over 35 years now um so grew up in West Virginia

Of all places rooted for the lasers all my life still still a fan handcuffed to the franchise and uh yeah started up a channel Eric and I been friends online for a couple of years and uh much like anybody that wants to reach out to Eric brand you know super super great to

Engage with everybody and uh we always talked about doing a show talking about like some of the good old days in Blazer history and we finally started to do that this year not realizing that everything was going to go down with Dame and so on and so forth we had some

Fears but we didn’t necessarily know that it was all going to go down that way uh and there was always that you know that slim hope that maybe the pingpong balls would break right and wimy would go to the Blazers so Eric and I uh kind of started up Rip City retro

Together is just a way to kind of talk about the good old days we’ve done quite a few long form episodes and when I say long form Eric and I have started them on one day and finished them the next day because we crossed over into the

Next stage shooting them I’ve gotten in major trouble for doing that a couple of times uh but you know we’ve we’ve done episodes where we’ve talked about you know the greatest Blazers you know the the greatest Blazer in history debate we’ve talked about the Blazers greatest draft picks the most painful moments in

Blazers history uh so you know yeah it’s always great whenever Eric can come on and do a long form video with me in the meantime I will typically do you know like kind of crazy intros where I use a lot of pp culture references and things like that but I like to answer

Everybody’s comments that come onto a Rip City retro video and comment and the channel is very small so I’m in a position to be able to comment on every comment being so small but we’ve amassed what Eric like over 660 um subscribers to the channel in a

Relatively short period of time so it’s really right basically anybody that’s a Rip City retro fan is a fan of blazers uprise so um if you haven’t subscribed to the channel you know please head on over subscribe to ripy Retro I have been a little uh under the weather the last

Couple of months so I haven’t been able to put out as much content as I would like especially in the last month but I’ve started feeling uh much better and it’s funny Eric I Was preparing an episode for Christmas Day and when you reached out to me to say uh

Could I help you out tonight with co-hosting and I was like oh perfect this will give me an opportunity to tell everybody to hop on over to rip city retro on Christmas day I’ll have a little something for you there and then we should be back to regular programming

Over at that channel but yeah uh so many of you guys who I see here in the chat are over at Rib City retro and I just appreciate all of you guys yeah it’s always fun to do episodes with you we’ve done what we did one about the lottery history

Hisory um we did one about draft picks trades our worst moments as Blazer fans um the GM history of the Blazers all that good stuff and like rich said our most recent one was over um it was it started off mostly about we’re going to talk about as players moved on to

Other teams how we rooted for them whether we disliked them and hated them or if we cheered for them to win a championship um OB obviously leading into Dame on the Milwaukee Bucks this year um but yeah we ended up talking about a lot more about just fandom in

General and things like that which we always we always get sidetracked like we are right now uh but there was a game was a game tonight right yeah in all fairness do we really want to talk that much about this game I mean the Blazer

Sucked once again they get off to a good start uh they they take what a nine point lead in the first quarter no 11 point lead 11 lead 30 to 19 things are looking good they’re finally up and doing well in the first quarter it’s been a while uh and and

Things are you’re like okay maybe they came to play this year or this game and all of a sudden the second quarter Rich we’ve seen this I don’t know pretty much every game this season at some point the Blazers just go on a huge offensive drought and cannot seem to piece anything together

When they finally get an open shot they brick it uh that they just can’t take care of the ball lots of turnovers lots of uh them leading to Fast Break opportunities for the other team and when you have dangerous players like clay and Steph out there um it’s it’s

Tough to do that and then uh we make some uh I mean Trace dackson Davis and pitsky have both been playing really well for the Warriors oh yeah but we made them look like stars like we do a lot of uh you know role players um but

Really though the uh the Warriors have been playing pretty dang well since Draymond got suspended I think they’ve won every game um especially especially at home yeah they’ve been really tough at home so uh the pick all of a sudden is not looking as good as it did a week

Ago or so uh so hopefully they get back to their losing ways soon uh but uh yeah this was just a tough one and they just never seemed to to get it going there were times where they kept the lead around 12 or the deficit around 12

Points and you just wanted them to go on a run but then it was the opposite Golden State pushed it to like 18 or 19 and then the Blazers with cut it back down to 12 again or 14 or whatever but never really seemed to get close in this

One it never really seemed in doubt in the second half and uh resulting in garbage time at the end and uh not a very well contested game by the Blazers yeah you know and a lot of people I’ve noticed lately even though I’ve been even though I’ve been uh not

Feeling great I’ve still come on your guys post games just like watched your post games a lot of guys have been a lot of L of people have been accusing you guys being very negative lately um so let’s start with the positives um we because this was such a blowout

Tonight uh we did not have to suffer through uh what is probably the most pathetic overrated uh celebration that that has ever existed in NBA history which is the put him to sleep celebration which I hate that last game we played him I know we got it last

Game look never has there been a celebration that the parameters of it involve you already being up and now you’ve put the game away it’s not a clutch shot per se in terms of being a gamewinner it’s just a shot that puts you up by multiple possessions so it’s a

Weird kind of sad kind of pathetic uh celebration am I being a hater sure yeah I think of course I am but I just want to say I I was glad we didn’t have to see that tonight because I hate seeing that um however um in the first quarter

Let’s talk about the first quarter for a second because that’s really when the Blazers uh stopped paying attention to the game but um they did a lot of really good things in the first quarter you know you saw some really good defensive scrambling by the Blazers obviously you

Know they they got to um sit in San Francisco for a night waiting for the warriors uh so they kind of tried to jump on them in the first quarter which is smart that’s what they should do um and and there were moments where you could see the athleticism of this team

And why there are reasons to get so excited and Eric has walked off the show um understandable um I’m sick you already I know it took it took actually it I had I had the under um so I I lost still but so you know you saw a lot of

Good things to get excited about but they were very sloppy offensively like in terms of finishing shots in the first quarter so what was I think they were up seven by the end of the first quarter I think it was I think it was 30 to

23 that should have been like a 15 to 16 point lead going into the second quarter but we you know don’t cash in on some opportunities we let the warriors uh you know score a couple of buckets right before the end of the first quarter they’re feeling

Good about themselves and then what is an 11-point lead ends up turning into an 11-point deficit at the half and I don’t know how you felt Eric I mean obviously when the Blazers played the Bucks in Milwaukee and there was that super weird game where the Blazers were up by 26

When the Blazers were up by 11 in this game I I was excited and I was happy and I was proud of how the guys were playing it was great to see um you know scoot get an early dunk that was a lot of fun

But I never felt like the lead was going to last and then when the Warriors Got Up On Us by double digits I never felt like like we had a a combination and a series of buttons that Sean he was going to push that was going to get us back

Into the game did you feel that way uh not in this one no uh just seemed like short of someone like anony catching fire and hitting a bunch of Threes I think that was the only way I was thinking in my mind something like that could happen um which would was

Possible I wasn’t like completely like closing the page on that being the being the occurrence in this one uh so you weren’t you weren’t right like I was I wasn’t right yeah you weren’t right like I was that that that we had no chance of winning this game once we were up

11 no well because that’s how I felt yeah I mean I didn’t think that I thought I thought wow we came to play today um yeah I I definitely I definitely uh thought the opposite but um yeah uh but no once we got down uh I don’t know just it seems like there’s

Something wrong uh with this team uh just I don’t feel like and I didn’t have a chance uh so real quick uh so I didn’t make it to last postgame show so I didn’t give my chance get my chance to share my thoughts about the disaster that was losing to the Washington

Wizards oh man and uh uh you know all the coaching controversies that Tori talked about and went so well in depth on um but uh the uh man the coaching is just uh it’s worrisome man and I feel like the team for the first time

Is I mean I I thought it was just because chony was a young coach and inexperienced and stuff like that but it seems like they’re not executing what he wants and um and you just watched them play offense today and you just think like this can’t possibly be the offense that

Chony wants to run right where they’re not getting any good looks no one’s moving off ball they’re turning the ball over and throwing lazy passes uh like this can’t be what chony wants right um I mean short of you know we hope we hope not we hope it’s not what johy wants

Yeah but like so you know a few games ago it was oh I I told them to call timeout after the free throw and they didn’t so I just let sharp go you know and then yeah last game it was oh well the play wasn’t for JY but he got the

Ball and just went you know it’s like well at what point dude are you not like something’s wrong if these players can never execute what you want them to do on the court and I feel like go ahead no go ahead no I just I just feel like

We’re seeing that in like so those are the like micro examples but if we’re looking at it like in a macro example uh like the the whole offense it it just our schemes the sets We Run The the off ball movement or lack thereof uh the

Lack of moving the ball around uh the amount of iso heavy when you don’t really have good ISO players um like it doesn’t make any sense that this is our offense when we have the Personnel we have yeah a and it just it it makes no

Sense and we just continue to do this same things run the same basic crap and then no wonder we have points like we had in the second quarter where we score what 16 points or something like that um yeah and just completely go from a game that was very winnable um you know

Golden State’s probably already thinking about Christmas Day and all that kind of stuff to uh all of a sudden we’re getting blown out and uh it it just it baffles me how often it happens and how little responsibility Chanty takes for the offense looking this bad I’m glad I’m

Glad that you said that because that was what I was going to touch on with the responsibility thing you know going back to the Wizards game just real quick um you know in his postgame chony talked about how well the reason that they ran that play for

Grant um at the end there was that there are a lot of options out of that play and it had just gotten ant a dunk the option before but that’s a situation where Washington is giving you a two like it it it’s not it’s not your heavily contested type of possession you know

What I mean yeah so when it comes to plays like that when it comes to plays like you know the Shaden uh possession uh where he got called for the charge against the Warriors in which we have played them three out of the last what 17 games or 17 days I forget exactly

Which the NBA needs to clean that up I I I can’t stand that stuff even when it’s advantageous in your favor I just don’t think think teams should ever play each other that closely unless they’re in a playoff series but that’s a side see this is a sidebar Eric this is how we

Could go down a rabbit hole but I I agree with you I I would love to see more responsibility out of chony and more own ship of things because I just think that sets a good example and it trickles down to your team but if it’s I

Was just gonna let shayen figure that out it’s it’s much much different if it comes from a standpoint of I’m the head coach it you know at the end of the day I get the loss in the record book you know I’ve got to be better you know even

If it’s things that Chanty doesn’t believe per se from a team building standpoint and you know wrapping your arms around your young players like Shaden and not throwing him under the bus like Chanty taking that kind of ownership would be good to see in those kind of situations I felt like tonight I

Don’t know how you felt tonight just kind of felt like a pickup game to a certain extent this was a this was a workmanlike loss by the blade there weren’t necessarily any glaring decisions there obviously wasn’t a a last minute you know possession that we can dissect because this this game we

Just kind of got overwhelmed and never seemed to have any kind of adjustments that were going to get us back in the game but yeah I I’m glad that you touched on that with chony and you know when when the Blazers hire chony I was cool with it I didn’t

Think I mean I I can’t necessarily give you you a better name that at that time under those circumstances that I would have said we should have hired now obviously after the fact we could come up with a bunch of names but um I was willing to give chony a chance and even

In his first two seasons because of how they unfolded Dame’s injury in the first season and then in the second season Once our depth became a problem and guys started to go down and then Dame went out for a little bit and then the season

I mean it kind of got away from us a little bit but even at the trade deadline and the All-Star break like the team was still pretty close to fourth in the west yeah so you know if if certain things break differently the second half of the season last year could have been

Very different so last year started my concerns about Chanty and I’ve talked about this a little bit over rip city retro and how he came to be a coach in the first place and we can maybe unpack that if if you want me to or chat wants

To or whatever I I don’t want to regurgitate old talking points but this season has been the season where while I obviously will not ding him for a lack of depth a lack of Veteran experience even though you have some vets on the team but I mean you

Know what I mean but um so while I’m not going to ding him for that when we are in game and when we are competitive with teams and then you see kind of baffling decisions I don’t think any games are being thrown here right you know with any with any creative play

Calls or anything like that but and and again not to come on here and you know I would love to come on here and be like Steph vaugh and just and just have counter points and you know I I don’t see how Anthony Simons contributes to

Winning you know I would love to do that but I have to agree with you guys when when I agree with you and if I ever disagree with you I’ll tell you but I I have to agree in that this is this is an opportunity for Chanty to show what he’s

Made of from a scheme standpoint from a play calling standpoint late in games and you know we obviously have a media here that is very quick to well what can Terry do what can Neil do what can Chanty do what is Joe supposed to do like all of these things you know it

Trickles down in a franchise and then you’ve got Chanty say well I was going to let Shay try to figure it out like I I would just I think I think somebody who is at the helm of this thing being a little bit more responsible and and

Standing up and pounding the table and and saying not only do all of our guys need to be better but I need to be better too that would be great to see yeah I I also was okay with hiring chony um we’ve seen a lot of first year

Coaches uh do well uh you know whether it’s Nick nurse or Steve Kerr or you know there’s countless examples of that um Oka had a good first year before yeah that ended as Todd Keith says in chat wish udoka was our coach uh so yeah I don’t mind taking a chance

On upside but I mean it’s pretty clear I think by now that he’s not that upside guy that we were hoping for or he’s not the type of guy who’s going to overachieve with a roster or um get them to play a style that uh you know Works to their

Strengths um because and he was never he was never right for that job right he wasn’t hired for that job he was hired he was he was hired to quite frankly be a players coach come in be a different voice Coach Dave nerk CJ get the defense going yeah absolutely they they didn’t

Bring him in to reset the table and and you know rebuild and so on so forth so if but he with this year well yeah right right but but I’m just saying like it’s it’s one thing if you’re bringing this guy in for a purpose but you know at that particular time if

That was the the trajectory the franchise you might want to bring in a guy like I don’t know Kenny ainson or somebody like that to to set your culture like make sure you are a professional level basketball team inside and out every game you might lose but there’s not going to be

You know moments of you know where you’re where you’re really questioning the the decisionmaking of the coaching staff it’s more a talent situation yeah I I just I worry I worry one more thing I’m so sorry Eric sorry to interrupt you Chanty is kind of the guy before the guy

Right like that’s kind of the way that I’m looking at him now he’s the coach before the coach he could just not be a good coach well no no what I’m saying is he’s in in terms of the trajectory of the franchise in terms of trying to build this thing into a championship

Contender he might be the coach before that coach comes in right yeah the only question is how long does he get his fingerprints on the careers of scoot Shaden you know Kamar all of these young guys to the point to where when that next coach does come in he’s having to

Unravel some bad habits that have been learned from day one and and I know that’s really negative it’s Christmas time I’m so sorry chat but um you know those are just kind of some thoughts off the top of my head after watching this game which like you said there’s not a

Lot to say about this game tonight because it just kind of it just kind of was a Blog game there wasn’t a there wasn’t a lot of es and flows to this game once the Warriors took the lead well I feel like his uh coaching staff does

Not match up either like you need if you’re going to have a players coach that doesn’t really have good schemes and stuff like that I feel like he’s not he doesn’t have the right staff in there you need some tough-minded guys and some uh it feels like everyone is Yes Men or um

They’re all kind of nice butt kisser types you know know don’t want to step on anyone’s toes yeah I think we need a little bit more like just someone who’s going to show a little bit of tough love and that’s something that like uh because Dame you know every offseason

And multiple other players including Anthony uh work with Phil Beckner in the off seasons and that’s the one thing that uh Dame says about Phil is that he was the first person in his life that told him like you could be so much better than this like why why would you

Accept this being okay like every other coach is like oh Dam you’re so awesome you’re so awesome and he came in and said dude you’re you’re not maximizing your potential like and until you do um like I don’t want to hear any of this crap I’m not going to tell you that

You’re doing well cuz you’re you’re not putting in the time at this particular Junction you could stay after practice and shoot more on this day or whatever and until you do that like you’re never going to be the player you want to be and like good players elite players like

Dame will take that to heart and and as a challenge you know to get better and and Vanderpool Vanderpool too with I CJ yeah and the and players that will never be good enough to be uh elite players in the NBA will will turn it around and

Uh and like never they’ll they’ll just be like oh man what’s wrong like I my coach hates me you know like that kind of thing and there those type players will never make it in this league long term because uh their their mentality isn’t right so I do think you need that

Kind of at least one person on your coaching staff to be like that and to tell not just tell the players what they want to hear and then uh also when it comes to Chanty I keep thinking about this cuz outside of today’s game um we we kind of

Got off to a slow start at the very beginning and uh like we were down what seven or nine to nothing to the Wizards um yeah and multiple games this year were down a bunch early like the other team scores the first six to eight points and then we have to um basically

Call a timeout and and go from there but uh the problem is okay you could say this year it’s like a rebuilding team right like we’re we’re bad what do you want like we’re not going to win many games so who cares which is okay but yeah we’re saying the

Same thing all last year remember even with the good start the only problem we were having was or we had two problems basically the bench and the slow starts that didn’t make sense from games and it would it became a problem all last season even when we were trying to win

Before we started to tank that was like one of the main talking points was how are we going to fix these slow starts we’re having and then once again this season we’re having these slow starts and we have a decent enough starting lineup in my opinion especially you know

Shad’s not playing right now so we have like Malcolm Brogden who’s a vet Jeremy Grant who’s a vet DeAndre aton’s in what his sixth year anthon’s in his sixth year uh Shaden and Kamar is a rookie but he doesn’t really play like a rookie uh mhm

So why are we like why are we struggling so bad at starts of games um but then I look at last year and see the same problems with Josh Hart Jeremy Grant Yousef nkic uh anony Simons and Damen Lillard like we’re still having problems with starts of games and to

Me I don’t think there’s any way to interpret that other than this team is not prepared enough at the start of games uh because if they were things like oh we just missed our first few shots and the other team just made their first few shots over the

Course of Seasons those things would even out right right like like it’s gonna it’s gonna happen on a given night here there but yeah you could be as the most prepared team in the league but sometimes Steph Curry comes out and hits three threes at the beginning and a

Misses three open ones and you’re down n nothing like that’s unavoidable sometimes yeah but when it happens like constantly almost every game you know it’s a problem with the coaching staff yeah and you know to to those who might be thinking well what does this matter you

Know and I I thought Tori and Eric I thought you guys wanted us to get a high draft pick etc etc and like this is kind of like look when you kids when you get old like me okay you you might you might meet a woman and like she’s really hot but you

See her like maybe go off on a waiter or waitress or you know treat somebody poorly and you have to be able to project forward and go yeah for tonight it’s not a big deal but looking down the road there are going to be crucial moments in the future in which that is

Going to be a problem and that is what I feel like sometimes when I watch Chanty I’m like yes these decisions don’t really matter right now and quite frankly some of his decision-making might be improving our Lottery position by accident because like I said before I don’t think he’s tanking games or or

Trying to throw games or come out with a bad scheme or anything like that but like when I project forward hey if we’re if we’re better like like from a talent standpoint and we’re able to you know Eric stott’s teams were like this a lot they were pretty well

Configured um you know all things all things considered uh with Neil’s roster construction and so on so forth but that’s why they were so good during the regular season their their pieces fit pretty well together they were able to have a lot of regular season success but then when it came to

The playoffs it became relatively easy to zero in on what we do well when you’re seeing us night after night after night it’s one thing if it’s the second night of a back toback and you just played the Lakers you know the night before and then you’re blowing into

Portland to play the Blazers like Dam and CJ could go off on you and you’re gonna and you’re going to lose but um but I I just feel like when our talent level and when our players mature a little bit more and I’m not I’m not

Saying like five six years down the road I’m saying like you know scoot’s second year his third year Shaden third year his fourth year so on so forth there may be nights where from a talent standpoint we’re able to overwhelm teams but that doesn’t mean that when a pressure cooker

Situation comes up that having Chanty at place might hurt us and I felt like the franchise missed a golden opportunity and we’ve talked about this before the franchise missed a golden opportunity in 2018 to move off of Terry stots when you still had Dam and CJ young nerk young

And you could have brought in a very different type of coach that maybe could have made those pieces fit together a little bit better but they didn’t they held on to the wrong guy who was having regular season success they held on to him a little bit too long and then we

Find ourselves in the situation that we’re in today so again not to beat up on the guy I I and by the way I’m fully like ready to all of a sudden be proved wrong about chony say I was wrong I have no problem doing that there’s no you

Know Grudge here you know or anything like that I I I just you know I just get concerned with what we’re seeing and I try to extrapolate what we’re seeing to a winning environment and an environment where we’re actually winning quite a few games but when it

Comes to late game decisions and just overall preparedness do we have the right guy in place and and you know the first two seasons you give it a look and a little bit of a pass because the injuries and things that happen but this season and

Again again I I want to make very clear at least from where I’m coming from this is not a results based evaluation that I’m making it’s not about well we lost this game we won this game it’s just about in situations where we actually are being competitive all of a sudden are

We you know handing games to the other teams are we just you know tripping over ourselves from a decision-making standpoint and I obviously you can look at the players and say they’re young the players need to do better they’re going to learn you know they puppies out there

And look I got I got three puppies downstairs like they’re gonna make a mess from time to time but um at the same time you know I I think it’s fair to look at the coaching and it it doesn’t have to be Blasphemous to do so yeah I uh completely agree um I’ve

Seen a lot of arguments actually on Twitter not just with the um it’s not just with the Blazers but it’s in the NBA in general um about how uh I’ve seen a lot of people whining about how coaches get all the blame when teams lose and none of the credit when

They win and all this kind of stuff and outside of like three coaches in the NBA every fan base wants their coach fired and all this kind of stuff um okay but it’s like okay well and tor’s big on this too right uh it it’s argue the argument not like some

Sort of generic statement like you can’t criticize the coach or or you’re being too hard or giving too much credit or too less of credit like so when Tori comes on here last postgame show and says um chony shouldn’t have called a timeout or it shouldn’t have ran the same play

Two times in a row in the crunch time um or uh well I don’t know what other examples there are trying to remember what happened in the other games um but like so they I mean argue that against that like okay so say you disagree with that but don’t

Say like oh well you’re just not willing to give the coach any credit when things go well because that’s not what we’re saying either how many how many rings do you have Rich yeah like how many I have none thank you to Coleman schli for a $5

Donation says Rich you’re truly the big dog nice I know I know Coleman I’m thank you Coleman I’m working on it I I’m not drinking as much Mountain Dew anymore so uh I’m trying to drink more water so I could be a slightly uh a slightly

Smaller dog uh but thank you very much for the comment I appreciate it and Eric keep me keep me up to date on the on the comments because I I can’t I literally cannot read anybody comments I see tor’s in the chat a lot I see mute that boo

But I can’t read what they’re saying pretty much you’re not missing anything other than Taylor and Tori have been arguing about DeAndre Aon since the beginning of the Stream So you’re do you want to talk so do you want to talk about Aon what is the what is the what

Is the Crux to the argument is it is it just yay or nay or what is it uh basically I think Tori is done with a can’t stand watching him play and Taylor uh you know seem a little bit torn on wanting to give Aon a little bit more opportunities and not

I don’t doesn’t think he’s being used right I think look man look there could be some tantalizing moments that that uh dive to the basket with that gorgeous pass from ant in the first quarter like like more of that please I mean if we could if we could see more of that uh

That’s why you know again Aon is just so tantalizing it’s so funny because sometimes I’ll watch Aon and I’ll look at him and I’m like wow he’s really athletic he’s in great shape because Aon in my head is just like super pudgy and slow and I don’t know why that’s those

Are the attributes that I have put upon him uh but then I’ll see I’ll look at Aon on the court and I’m like man he is in really great shape like he should just be able to run like a deer and and dominate dominating right and I don’t

Understand why it doesn’t happen um but anyway uh okay I gotta let’s see um um Eric Eric stepped away for a second he’s he’s been having a lot of coughing uh fits here in the last couple of days so you know forgive me you guys you got just me for a second

Uh give Rich the max Alex well what are we talking about Alex um you know uh I’ll I’ll take I’ll take a minimum a minimum is still pretty pretty hefty I think right are you all right yeah so uh obviously I missed Thursday’s postgame show I I got really

Sick I was actually in the hospital for like five hours yesterday um everything’s okay now still have the flu and stuff though um but uh one positive thing uh for those that um that uh have been following along uh so earlier in 2023 I was pushing uh stepped on the scale and I

Was pushing 290 and I was like oh my God this is uh this has to change right and and and for people who don’t know you’re like 66 right yeah 66 so um right and so I stopped I didn’t like stop drinking soda all together or anything but I stopped

Like buying soda to have because I I just drink it at when I’m at home and stuff and I haven’t really ate like a lot better but you know I try not to buy a ton of junk food and stuff especially around the house and just uh you know

And then I got a new job that is a little more active and lot less at a desk doing paperwork and stuff so um nice and so uh I did I did it I did inspire you to have a Mountain Dew the other night and I felt really bad about

That oh no every once in a while it’s fine but anyways I got down to like in the 250s and I’ve been the last couple weeks I’ve been plateauing around 254 or so okay yeah basically lost like 35 pounds or so but then awesome I’ve lost like five

Pounds in the last uh two days so um the uh so for the first time since uh so in February I’ll have it’s been 20 years since I met my wife and uh I think I weighed like 235 24ish when I met her some somewhere around there

Felty and uh but I was like so through high school and stuff I was like 205 could never put on weight um gosh really rail thin right all through college pretty much too and then I started uh lifting weights pretty intensely like six days a week for like a year after I

Got out of college and I put on like 20 pounds of muscle it was just all like cut like a tank dude that was it was so awesome and then um yeah so then uh I mean I told the story story on this channel before but had something happen

To where uh my skull was fractured and uh oh that’s right and then um forgot about that couldn’t uh exercise for a while after that or lift weights and stuff so um I uh ended up and then you know as you get older and have a family

And stuff you don’t have as much time to play basketball for four hours every day like I was doing when I was little um and so uh I apologize for the volume I don’t know how to fix it um I have it turned up all the way I’m not sure um but anyways

Uh so um so yeah I it’s been like shortly after I met my wife wife uh or just her at the time um my I I’ve been like over 250 ever since then and so today was the first time in at least 15 probably closer to 17 or 18

Years that uh I’ve I stepped on a scale and it had under 250 on it so pretty St oh man lost 40 pounds over the past like 10 months or so not even really hard but yeah thanks man congrats that’s awesome but also uh to all the people who or not

All the people but I think it’s just one person maybe just a few but uh there’s a few people uh one person is just I I mean I I wouldn’t imagine just typing this out in comments but I guess it’s Anonymous over the internet but um this one guy always

No matter what he says he always has to mention how terrible my voice is and how nasly it is and stuff and so I apologize thank you thank you I apologize said it because I can’t do anything about it one but two it’s even worse when I’m sick

And uh I’m obviously sick tonight and trying to fight through it but like yeah so I apologize to that one guy who just hates my voice and thinks it’s too nasly um it’s always it’s always weird if somebody’s ever like if somebody’s ever like I watch this show every time it’s on you

Know 10 to 12 to 14 hours a week and Eric’s voice is so grading I can’t stand it like it’s like really are you sure are you sure you can’t stand it um but anyway look I I remember when I first moved to Los Angeles and became an actor

And had to get used to the idea of oh you’re an actor Rich please tell us about that oh stop shut up um I told you a really cool acting story before the stream that we cannot share on air um but but you can’t vouch for me that it

Is pretty cool um but uh but I had to get used to like I always hated the sound of my own voice much like the chat and um but I I had to get used to it uh so I could truly evaluate my work you

Know so once I got used to the annoying sound of my own voice I was able to move past it but yeah I mean to each their own I you know once you once you zero in on the content of what somebody’s talking about and whether they know what

They’re talking about and like especially you and I’ve told you this before uh but you know you just have a real gift for emoting whether you’re angry or whether you’re emotional or things like that and that’s why that’s why everybody in chat and that comes to

This channel loves you uh and it’s a real gift like it’s a gift to be able to connect with people that way and so the sound of your I mean with the exception of that guy you haven’t really connected with that guy and that’s a shame but but

I think I speak for most of us when I say that we all love your voice because it’s yours so yeah there go I also for the record had sinus issues when I was little and could never breathe out of my nose until I was older so I have I

Became a mouth breather at an early age so yes I am a mouth breather but yeah have we ever talked about how I do not have a sense of smell I was I I was born without it uh so I’m so jacked up chat like I have triple vision

From a car accident let’s list all the things I don’t think we have time to list no no let’s do no let’s do this this is fun no we don’t have enough oh shut up so so I have Tri so so with my with my senses so I have triple Vision

So my vision is screwy I don’t have a sense of smell so I was born without that and then um and now my hearing I’ve lost 10% of my hearing and I’ve got horrible tontis and you know a year from now I may just be yelling at the I I may

Be yelling at the screen a lot or I might be in the chat saying what’s wrong with the audio and you guys are saying nothing Rich it’s your ears um but yeah I don’t think we ever talked about this it’s a spell thing so I I don’t know why

I’ve just never had it and now you’re leaving it’s very painful for you to for you to reject me like that and walk away but I understand so chat uh I want to know from you guys clearly a bot what’s up every now and then I’ll catch people’s names it’s good

To see you um Elizabeth says this is Rich’s audition for the NBA analysis role in be no I would never I would never get that by the way the NBA analysis role on be be has two of those and they’re excellent they’re way better than me so uh I would fail that audition

Elizabeth but uh you know but thanks for the thanks for the plug and then uh yeah so I feel I feel like we are I feel like we are like like we have fallen asleep at the car much like the woman that hit me in in my car accident

Eight years ago but I’m not bitter and um do you have a sense of touch at least asked Zach yes my sense of touch is fine and my sense of taste I’m like an I’m like an X-Men like my sense of taste they they say it’s always tied to your

Sense of smell but my sense of taste is not tied to my sense of smell so I can I can have the flu pneumonia everything and food still tastes the same so like it always tastes the way it normally tastes so for some reason with me it’s

Not connected so touch is good taste is good and vision is just tripled so um Eric I feel bad I feel like I facilitated us getting way off track it’s all good rich I mean but what do people do you really want to talk about this game tonight I mean we could talk

About it well no I want to talk about whatever chat wants to talk about so I mean if they want to fire questions out of or anything like that but but what what do they want us to talk about because I kind of want to know is like

Is chat chat are you guys out on Chanty or are you still like people are being too harsh you know we need to give it more time or it doesn’t matter because they’re not supposed to win right now like I I’m just kind of curious because

I I feel kind of bad being out on Chanty but at the same time like even though I have and maybe it’s because I have triple ision But Eric my eyes are seeing what they’re seeing and that’s a problem so whatever chat wants to talk about I’m willing to go in that

Direction I’m starting a pull and obviously we don’t have the benefit of like player cards and all that kind of stuff from tonight’s game that uh Tori always does an excellent job H but you know the stats tonight were kind of just just kind of there you you know scoot

Had 12 points hit a couple of Threes um you know ant had what did ant have like 25 I think Jeremy had 17 so I mean nobody really busted out for a huge game but you know it’s a 20o loss after an 11o lead so I mean there’s not a ton to

Talk about but I’m starting a poll it’s are you completely out on chony bips as coach yes no doesn’t matter or doesn’t matter I love I love the fact that you let the third answer uh be entered by The Rock uh for old school WWE fans it

Doesn’t matter who the coach is um but it’ll I’ll be curious to see what Chad has to say here I’ll put my I’ll put my uh I’ll put my vote in and uh and and we’ll see what the rest of chat does PIM thinks you look

Like Rob pinka what do you think of that uh I mean pinka is a good guy I guess right sure I mean you know when I first moved oh does that does that scare you did I scare you um but you know when I first moved to Los Angeles I mean I

Was 24 when I moved here so I used to get all kinds of like really like nice looking comparisons and now it’s like you know Rob pinka Steve Bushi and you know I mean I’m just I’m getting I mean like I’m just getting uglier by the

Minute but uh but thank you for the compliment I I think pinka is pretty decent looking guy so thank you thank you for the compliment I think if you mean it as a compliment well yeah people say Rob low looks like him too right oh that’s like Rob low yeah I’ve heard I’ve

Heard that a lot uh Rob Rob Schneider I don’t think you look like Rob Schneider at all I am an animal though I mean if you don’t don’t cross me comedically um Rob low in one of the best television series that only have one season ever the

Grinder if if none of you have ever seen it try to find the grinder uh that’s an amazing show very very funny and of course it got cancelled because we can’t have nice things um but anyway so what what what else are people all right people we have

124 watching right now only 36 votes in the poll come on everyone vote in the poll please and and click a like click a like on the Stream for the guys I don’t even know if I clicked like myself uh but I just did I just

Did um but so what are the Christmas plans Eric Christmas with Mom and the family or what’s going on yeah so every Christmas Eve is dedicated to my mom’s house so we’ll go over there tomorrow um lunchtime is and then we’ll have a nice prime rib dinner uh that my

Wife is preparing and and uh hopefully she feels up to it she’s pretty sick right now too um oh no you poor guys that’s thanks and then you know open presents do the whole Christmas thing at my mom’s and then Monday morning um our Christmas morning you know do the whole

Christmas with the kids in the morning okay everyone wakes up see what Santa brought for them and they open all their presents and yep daughter will be coming home tomorrow from college and all that so yeah cool how about you rich um you know it’s low key this year um you know we’ll

We’ll do a family thing tomorrow so so Christmas is actually tomorrow and then we’re uh puppy sitting uh another dog so there are four dogs in the house right now uh uh well five if you count me I’m the big dog from what I understand yeah you are um

But uh so it’s been a little chaotic been a little chaotic uh so just kind of a kind of a low-key Christmas I already told you the story off Stream Christmas came early last week for me in the form of a commercial airing that was not

Supposed to be airing and now we have to work that out but if you know you know uh what that means entertainment industry- wise but uh but anyway yeah so just kind of lowkey really that’s about it kind of like kind of like the Blazers in this game tonight just very very

Pedestrian just not a lot going on what is your what is your goto Christmas snack like maybe after the Christmas dinner and the whole thing where you like you’re like man I want to go back and and grab a little something like leftover wise what are you doing

Um I don’t know if I have a necessarily A Christmas snack that I go back for but I do love myself some just uh sugar cookies with frosting on them or whatever like okay okay fair enough you know I think I’m starting I’m starting I’m starting to understand the 290 Pounds make some

Nice cookies you know you get you can do it with the kids roll them out and make the little cookie cutters with the different Christmas shapes and stuff and oh that’s cute yeah that’s cute I I’m just always like get the roll get the turkey the stuffing and just make like a

Little Thanksgiving sandwich like that is like that that’s almost better than the meal itself to me um I think you have a Dono from clearly a bot can I read it do you mind if I read it sure if you can he’s been clearly about if you can you bastard uh clearly bought

Channel member for 26 months thank you you clearly abot on behalf of the guys uh he says fire Joe trade players plus 23 help me out on that one Eric I don’t quite understand that and then well finish this out he says cbgm oh Chanty bbss general manager uh

Like the stream okay well he’s saying like the Stream So basically I mean is he is he just calling for for cleaning house think so um obviously did I read that correctly yeah Chanty trade players plus 23 um I don’t know I don’t know what that part of it

Was clearly oh oh clearly about saying treade players over 23 years of age oh so agism that that’s what clearly a bot wants so you want to trade anony he’s 24 maybe 24 plus did do you not like Anthony clearly and I ended the poll 73% said

Yes they’re completely out on chony as coach only 14% said no and doesn’t matter who the coach is only got 12% so overwhelmingly off 56 votes what um uh what do you think about my theory that chony never really wanted to be a coach and it’s just something that he fell

Into he doesn’t have a burning desire to actually be a coach uh I might have thought that prior to him becoming a coach but there was no reason for him to be an assistant coach and go that route um considering he would have likely gotten a job eventually as a GM if he

Continue that route so I think he did change his mind and wanted to become a coach but he took but he took the assistant job after covid right um three years ago well I think that’s right yeah because we fired that would have been 2021 2020 2021 was the when he was ass

S yeah so the the season where the playoffs started like in June um which again I I’ll it was it was so great to see the Blazers and Damen Lillard playing in June and I just lied to myself by looking at the calendar and saying we’re in the finals um but uh

Yeah so I think that was his first season that that truncated 20120 to 2021 season and you know from my understanding Chanty had done you know he he finished up his playing career with the Clippers then he moved into calling games for the Clippers and then

I think he was still living here in Los Angeles and you know I mean I could see how a guy could take a gig being an assistant coach in the town that you’re currently living in to maybe see if you like it so on and so forth we just had a

Gunshot outside so a little bit of pee came out so uh nothing like living in Los Angeles is that really what yes yes I heard that noise man that’s crazy yeah I don’t know what’s happening but anyway um Rich’s in La not Portland too what’s

That and you live in LA not Portland I know um so you know I I just I just kind of looked at it like you know with with some of the things that we’ve seen in the post games you know uh the hugs and hand pounds immediately after games and

Stuff like that even though I do not question chony bips competitiveness especially as a player obviously a world champion they had an incredible string of going the Pistons had an incredible string of going to the Eastern Conference Finals year after year after year probably should have won another

Title in there somewhere uh but when it comes to coaching man I I don’t know I don’t get that vibe that he just has to have this you know and and that’s that’s what I like to see out of my coaches I don’t know if he necessarily

Has to have it or whatever but I don’t mean I don’t mean from a desperation standpoint like he has to have the job or something like that I just mean like like coaching’s in his blood you know what I mean like I’ve said this before on uh my little pre-post game streams

That I’ve done waiting for you guys to come on and come live but I I’ve talked a little bit about somebody like Sam casselle I look at somebody like Sam Cassell a former player late first round draft pick won two titles with the Rockets uh won another title with the

Celtics but he was really you know a end of the bench player at that point and Sam has really paid his dues on a lot of different staffs as an assistant coach and and really built up his resume I look at somebody like Cassel as probably somebody who would be more likely to

Achieve coaching success and somebody who is just like like itching and just dying to be a coach that kind of thing does that make sense yeah uh I don’t know because he was offered the Cleveland Cavaliers GM job and he turned it down um might have just been well now

Alex Wolf Al Alex Wolf gave me some information on this because he he’s a Cleveland Cavalier fan um and and he’s in Ohio so apparently they offered Chanty I think it was I think Alex if you’re in the chat correct me but I think Alex told me they offered Chanty

Like $1.2 million to be the GM and he came back and said that was was an insult and and they did not take the job see to me I think if Chon’s in a front office he’s not out there clapping and high-fiving and uh you know hugging other team after games

And stuff um like Taylor Packers says I think a lot of people would choose being a GM over Coach because it’s just you’re behind the scenes a lot more and it’s it’s just probably easier but uh I don’t know chy seems like the guy who wants to be in the Limelight and

Doesn’t want to be behind the scenes he wants to have his name out there and wants to be interviewed and all that kind of stuff but but that’s not coaching though that’s but it comes along with coaching but he want he wants the good parts of coaching I don’t know if he

Wants the to be a coach but he does definitely like the good parts of coaching I think okay I mean that’s fair I can I can agree with you on that um but he doesn’t want he doesn’t want the blame either like so he’s not liking it

Now yeah yeah for sure um Eric olssen I see you in the chat I I I I so many of you I I see you and I just cannot read your comments unless I like basically get get right up here to the screen and

I don’t want to do that but um it’s good to see you here another thing is like Zach says what’s up Zack uh what’s up Zack it’s a lot easier to get the benefit of a doubt as a GM than a coach I Joe Cronin well like just think about

It like this summer right that’s interesting at FanFest you got people asking Joe Cronin for autographs and taking pictures with him like he’s a freaking rock star right just throwing P throwing panties at him while he’s walking you know I mean come on all because he traded Dame you know like and

Then like Chon’s probably like what the heck man like why are people wanting to take pictures of me and all this stuff you know yeah well I mean that’s an interesting point I would say as a as a GM there are certainly narratives in place that you can plug yourself into

Where you can maybe um uh what what was he saying that it that it’s easier to to remain safe or or like have long career behind the scenes as a GM is that is that the Crux of what we’re saying oh they can escape criticism right um I

Don’t know I mean Joe’s Joe’s caught a lot of heat here but I but I think that’s mainly you know those are self-inflicted wounds on Joe’s part if if the franchise had been upfront and transparent and things like that I don’t think Joe catches anywhere near as much

Black as he’s caught now the trades that looked you know so hopeful and promising you know the end of September of this year once you start to see things play out a little bit like you start to wonder like and I think I messaged you

The other day Eric or maybe we were on the phone and I said you know Joe Cronin has had one press conference since July 10th and and that was media day media day yep because they tried to combine everything they combined the Dame trade the the Dame trade requests and the

Whole craziness of the they combined the Dame trade they combined the eighton trade and then they combined going into the season so that move was completely designed to protect him the media is obviously not going to ask him you know a half dozen questions about the Dame stuff when Dame is now

Gone and now you know we could talk about Scoot and moving forward and so on so forth so I am very curious now that now that players can be traded obviously because you’re past the December 15th um the December 15th deadline or whatever now that you know

You could start to look towards the the trade deadline and well still January 15th for some players oh yeah that’s right January 15th for some but as we but as we start to as we start to get closer to a trade deadline like you know you just I think

The spotlights going to go back on Joe again and then we’re going to hear you know it’ll be very interesting to see if he’s learned from the last couple of years of you know over promising and underd delivering um and see if he’s able to get this stuff done with these vets uh

In terms of you know getting good return for Brogden and whoever else they might trade go ahead I’m gonna talk softly because I think I figured out my mic situation I think I fixed it myself um okay so if you’ve been having a lower Val volume please uh turn it down a little

Bit now because I don’t want to kill you but all right so I’ll talk regular now and it should be fine uh yeah so yes all by myself like I’m I’m such uh I I think rich is in the same boote as me neither of us are uh computer wizzes here uh so

Um yeah but was able to fix it and then uh tried to balance out Rich’s thing back to instead of having a lower volume as well this is this is the two the two old Muppets in the balcony episode of Laser’s uise I feel like I accomplished

Something today man I can’t I can’t believe I did it all by myself uh you’re under 250 and you did this stream yeah well I did have some pizza after I weighed under over 250 so probably back but I I saw it a two under 250 so no

Just that’s the only thing I ate today too but yeah so I have a I have a question for you uh yeah most people haven’t seen your uh that haven’t seen your content um what what are your feelings right now on who to trade by the trade deadline who to

Keep um are there certain players you would keep uh the others want to trade or like what are you are you like clearly a bot anyone over the age of 24 is gone uh uh well I don’t want to trade ant uh you know scoot ant sharp Untouchable um Kamar depending on

Depending on what you could oh Kamar is Untouchable I’m sorry I’m sorry not necessarily Untouchable but I wouldn’t look to trade any of those guys no he’s Untouchable he the the contract you have him on and what he has already shown in his first season the toughness that he

Shown in his first season uh yeah he’s a touch pole because sky is the limit for that guy so Kamar is Untouchable thank you uh I was just focused on like the the the high wattage players that everybody talks about um look DeAndre is not the solution at the

Center position so um you know if you can if you could get value uh for him um you know I I would be open to trading him I’d be open to trading Jeremy the the fact that the Blazers have been floating out oh the Blazers aren’t interested in trading Jeremy

Grant I think that’s insane pieces that’s just I’m sure I’m sure that some of that has to do with just raising his value quite frankly and and maybe trying to stir the pot a little bit to uh increase any offers that may be out there um you know but it’s it’s

The same names that everybody else talks about I like thel a lot I think thel’s done a great job um especially early in this season of showing himself to be a valuable asset to a contending team I I wish that we were better so that he

Could be you know a a cog in the wheel of of that process but by the time we’re going to be ready I I don’t I don’t think it I mean he’s not old by any stretch of the imagination of course but I I I just feel like his future is

Probably better off on a team that’s kind of ready to win now and needs a player of his skill set so I’d kind of be okay with any of those guys but if you if you don’t get an asset for uh I mean a significant asset or assets for Brogden it’s a major

Fail um and I just I I just have nightmares about being post the trade deadline and and hearing stuff like well we didn’t get to see our full team healthy all year and you know Robert Williams went down early and you know we really want to see what we have and you

Know like please no please no like don’t don’t want to hear any of that stuff so you know I mean again you know I find myself in the same position that I have been the last two years with Cronin I am fully prepared for him to do well I’m here for

It I’m ready for it please do it I thought he did well with the the the trades earlier in the fall even though immediately on paper you could look at the situation and go well nerk and Aon you know there I mean you’re you’re kind of you’re kind of getting double the the

Price uh and then imagining nurk being on this team and his ability to pass with guys cutting to the basket you know those kind of skills that nerk has while you might look at Aiden with his age and his upside being a greater gamble to

Take um you know looking at it now like you could probably be getting the same production for half the cost right so you know the the trades don’t look as good as they looked U but this should be this should be that whole story about trading a what was the story like the

Guy who traded a paperclip and and just kept making trades until he ended up with a house like that kind of thing like like this should just be moving assets along with the exception of the Untouchable guys that we talked about the four guys um and this this should

Just be continuing to Tinker and trade and you know I I I just don’t want us to hang on to to guys for too long and you you know when Brogden went down with what was the first injury I think it was the hamstring or something

Like that um when he first went down I immediately was like this is this is why you move the guy quickly and just move off him like is he a competent basketball player can he be truly efficient at times yes does that help us at all especially when scoot Henderson

Is you know on some nights is playing 22 minutes no it does not so you know I’m I’m kind of you know again I would love to be controversial and say something totally different but I have to be honest here as I’ve always said from day

One with ripy retro that I would always be honest with people who you know hear whatever opinion I’m gonna give is that I’ll be truly honest I you know I’m kind of like everybody else if they don’t trade Jeremy I wouldn’t be shocked uh but the goal should be finding Jeremy a

Home at some point within the next you know seven months uh and a way for the Blazers to extract as much Capital as they can from him I don’t I don’t think you go into next season with Jeremy Grant on the roster and that’s not dising Jeremy I

Like Jeremy but see I’d be surprised if it if he does get moved uh as much as I think he should be okay why why do you say that and I’m not challenging you I I just I want to hear I want to hear your counter opinion why do you think that I

Just think they think he’s too valuable as a locker room guy and as a 20 plus Point per game score it’s one of cronin’s Trades too so he’s not like even though it was Dames you know talking into and this situation in Detroit that allowed him to be traded for so little

Uh I just think that uh I just think that they’re going to allow him or want him to be part of this moving forward and just keep justifying it that he’s one of their better players why I would be get rid of him well can

We can we talk about that for a second because that’s something that I mean you guys may have talked about it on the channel uh and I just missed it um but Le let’s talk about that for a second let’s talk about the value of having guys like Jeremy and Brogden on

The roster to be able to take some workload away from these young guys because is there a danger so in other words if you don’t have Jeremy there like as like as a a pillar of your offense if you don’t have Malcolm there as kind of a pillar of your offense

Somebody that that you know is going to take a good amount of shots going to be relied upon so on so forth a locker room leader all of those things okay all the intangible things that that brings if we did say we say we did the the 23 and under plan

Okay is there a danger of putting these young guys in a position where it’s it’s not only they’re not only suffering losses and failures but they’re suffering them at at an incredibly like like we’re losing games now we lost tonight by 20 yeah and that’s with

Brogden and Grant on the team is there is there a is there a confidence Factor danger when it comes to these young players where having Jeremy around I’m just playing Devil’s Advocate yeah no I hear having having Jeremy around having Malcolm around gives these gives these

Young guys a little bit of a bridge to the Future where then in a year or two whatever the case may be depending on how they view Jeremy then it it can truly become their team versus the danger of it just okay screw it it’s just their team now like there’s not a

Lot of Oklahoma City Thunder with KD and Westbrook and James Harden examples out there that we can point to in terms of a young nucleus like that just taking off so is is there truly value to protecting these young guys a little bit by having those older

Guys on the team I’m just playing Devil’s Advocate there is value in having vets I think every team needs vets but who were Dame’s vets Mo Williams for a Year Ronnie price Earl Watson early in his career you know like those kind of guys those guys were on minimum contracts right and weren’t

Taking playing time away from Dame tonight you have Malcolm Brockton playing 37 minutes in a blow in a blowout that we lose by 20 points so none of the none of the starters played the last five minutes and he still played 30 37 minutes scoot he had four

Fouls but only plays 23 minutes okay you do not want a player like Malcolm Brogden as good as he is on this team hindering scoots minutes just pure and simple you do not want vets like that in my opinion what you want is vets that are on a minimum contract or make very

Little you know maybe the mid-level exception at the most that don’t even have to play most most games maybe in maybe in the Twilight of their career yeah like maybe what like Chris Paul’s doing on the The Warriors maybe like that’s the extent of it but I don’t

Think you want someone who’s like starting and playing 37 minutes over scoot only playing 23 uh like I I just I don’t see how that’s helpful to us long term other than hopefully someone watches Malcolm Brogden tonight from another team and is like oh he had 12

Assists or 17 and 12 or whatever he had and well and it’s and and let’s Also let’s be fair to those guys and in in saying this it’s also not fair to those guys like they’re still young and they they have their next you know I mean I

Know Jeremy just got this big extension but you know they have tons of uh mileage left on their careers where they have things that they want to achieve and things that they want to get done and they’re not going and and putting them in a position to sacrifice for the

Development of these young guys like that’s that’s hard to ask of guys that are just 28 and 29 and 30 when those are the years when a player should be in their physical prime they should be competing uh um you know trying to win at the highest level like that that’s a

Hard position to put those vets those particular vets not vets but like you were saying you know you can have some older vets but having vets that are still like in their in their Prime where physically mentally understanding the game knowing how to play that’s a tough position to put them

Into yep um I just I love it I love it I got the Eric Brandt y after after a long Soliloquy I love it I wanted it so badly and I got it well see like people are saying in chat like maybe they’re trying to get his trade value up like

Brog I yeah I oh oh they’re oh they’re trying to do that with Brogden chat do you also think they’re trying to do the same thing with Jeremy in terms of saying they have no interest in trading him I’m just curious what people will say I just anyway go ahead in my opinion

With brocken I mean people know who Brogden is right and the only possible thing that can change that is if he gets hurt um because if he gets hurt it’s much like Robert Williams he has no trade value and so right I don’t think playing him right now matters that much

If he’s like I was joking about him you know having 12 assists tonight but like no team’s going to be like oh Malcolm brogon can still play look at him uh like Blazers have shown he can still play he’s been hurt a little bit but he’s healthy right now I would not risk

I would not risk him getting hurt between now and the trade deadline playing him 37 minutes just to to what get a few extra points and assists Like That Matters to teams like that aren’t basing a vet like that on his whole body of work you know it’s not like it’s a

Vet that hasn’t had a chance and is trying you’re trying to maximize like thull for example right thull you want to maybe get more playing time to up his defensive stats and his see if his get more three-point attempts to show oh well it’s not just a 20 game sample size

Like last year now we have like an 80 game sample size later in the season um of him shooting the three well so he’s like a three actual three-point shooter now look at this when you give him the green light and put him in a good

Position to succeed um but like I don’t think the opinions on broen are going to change drastically other than him being injured and it changing drastically in a bad way for us yeah and the and you know now going to the flips side talking about the

Guard position like if you have a three guard rotation where you’re trying to figure things out maybe playing shading at the three in certain situations things like that but in terms of the load what I was talking about earlier like it not being fair on the young guys

To put them in that position in terms of that three guard lineup when you have Aunt who I think clearly has shown himself to be capable of being that workload kind of guy who is just going to get you a bucket you’re going to be

Able to depend on him for x amount of points a game like kind of that offensive centerpiece that you can build a lot of things around right now I I I don’t where I could see it with Jeremy in terms of the front Court I I I can’t

I I couldn’t justify any reason to not maximize Brogden and get the most that you can out of him in a trade and you’re also gonna get benefit because he’s he’s so good that he has to play right particularly if chony is trying to win games so we need to take this little

Tool away from chony so that he’s he’s more forced to play scoot more than 23 minutes well we had lineups tonight where it was we had scoot ant Brogden and then like Germany and do up in right and it’s like and of course that lineup gets torched defensively we have no Rim protection

And we have no like primary defenders in that lineup so uh like it’s just what are we doing like um and Eric Olson says if you trade away the Vets we will be the next Detroit won’t win to where it hurts f it um I mean I don’t know if you phrase

That quite how you wanted it but uh like I don’t know I like I said I’m not saying to get rid of all vets I’m saying the Vets you have should be lower price lesser good player vets and allowing your best players to Blossom it my opinion having good enough good players

Like Malcolm at positions where we’re already stack act in terms of our young development I mean our whole young core is based around our three guards um yeah so having a fourth guard means you have to play three of them more often than you want to um but we already talked

About this if if sharp has to play the three some you can get away with him playing it the three about 12 minutes a game with some creative you know substitutions and stuff and you know having someone go out early of the three guards and then uh

Maybe sending saving some time at the end to go three guards um but you need to have the right four or five with those three and uh I don’t know I think did you say did you say threesome yeah mind went to the gutter yeah well I live in Los Angeles

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Like going crazy over you so uh Eric I I mean what what direction would you like to go in now would like how how long how long did you intend on going tonight I can stay as long as you want we can also we can also shift to advice which I

Always love to feel those questions T says yall still live making fun of those people that come in I didn’t get to see the game tonight what happened how was how was scoot how was scoot tonight do you think H it’s okay fine you know I mean in a

Game in a game like this in a game like this where it gets out of pan you know I mean he hit a couple of Threes you know I mean tonight’s just tonight is not a game that bolsters my hopes for him or diminishes them tonight was just tonight

Was a game two days before Christmas and and if you’ve been watching the league as long as Eric and I have you can kind of see how games like this are pretty much Clunkers guys guys got their minds elsewhere and you know got to get got to get got to get

You know the wives taking care of got to get the kids taken care of got to get the girlfriends taken care of like there’s a lot of things to think about Eric for an NBA player so for sure so but what did you think of scoot tonight

I mean I I thought he was fine so there was a couple moments where uh I was in a chat and people were saying oh sco than G I saw your com scoot is playing really good defense tonight um and then like the next two possessions he has like two

Of the worst defensive possessions I’ve seen um and then uh so it’s kind of like that tonight in my opinion um some good some bad uh yeah yeah it was nice to see him hit a couple threes um yeah that was about it um I don’t know only 23 minutes so it’s just

It’s killing me man yeah yeah hopefully hope hopefully that’s starts to change soon but you know who knows what the rationale is for that all right I think we got to do this oh it’s okay what is that it’s only two minutes and 50 seconds ch’s press

Conference tonight oh I love it okay I’ll try to play it into the mic see if it works okay okay after this uh ad Place wait can I can I do can I do the pre-press conference can I can I guess okay um let’s see um I thought we I

Thought we came out with a lot of energy man I I really I really did I felt good about what we did you know we were flying you know we were flying around creating some turnovers uh felt like we got some good looks uh they just didn’t they just

Didn’t go in and uh I felt like their their pressure really hurt us you’re not got us got us backed door a few times not smacking your lips enough I I know I’m not trying to do it impress you but I I just I’m I’m trying to get

I’m trying you know I’m an actor so I’m trying to get in the head and but but but I like I like the way I I okay in a game in which we were up 11 and we lost by 20 I don’t know why but I just feel

Like we’re going to get the but but I like the way we competed but we got to compete for 48 minutes let’s do it let’s go all right let’s see if I hit any of the Box got off to a really good start which is something that we’ve uh We’ve struggled

With for a while but I thought we did a really good job defensively early on uh scrambling kind of getting around and uh had a pretty good first quarter you know until the last I think it was about 2 minutes 2 and 1/2 minutes we gave up three

Offensive rebounds and it just changed the game you know it really changed the game for us and second quarter um turn it over a little bit but we just you know they just K yeah you heard it already those those two or three offensive rebounds those

Were like 30o plays like what man once those happened it was over yeah we didn’t still have the lead or anything but no yeah go go ahead play so bad on the rebounds and it’s tough to you know you play a pretty good possession of defense and then don’t come up with the

Some deflating plays um but even you know all rebounds offensive re I mean we just they just they took it to us they really did and there nothing that you can really do about that I mean we we get 30 rebounds for the game oh wow they took it to us and

There’s nothing you can do about it there’s nothing you can do rich wow is that it it over no I just okay dude I can’t with that dude it’s there’s nothing we can do about it like we only had 30 rebounds there’s nothing we can do about

It you know when the when these guys broke in my house and just started taking my food I mean I what I mean there’s pretty much nothing you can do about it you know just got to just gota take it really play play on I dude what did we talk about earlier

About him like not taking responsibility like Eric listen man there’s nothing he could have done though Rich there’s nothing nothing listen at the end of that first quarter we gave up two or three rebounds yeah when that happened we screwed man once that happened yeah what are you supposed to do yeah

Like Katie Bar the Door dogs and cats living together Masseria Eric everything everything we were doing was great but once they got two offensive rebounds that second one the first one we could have lived with Rich deflating when they grabbed that second offensive rebound that was when

We were like oh we might as well just give up this game’s over I mean there’s really there’s pretty much nothing you can do at that point what about about what about that Scrappy team that’s tough and physical and no one wants to play that chony like talked about for

Years like now he has his guys to be that kind of team but Eric But Eric once there’s a couple of tip outs like you just you just take that Scrappy team’s heart and and show it to them there’s nothing you can do Tori says Chanty doesn’t want to call

Out JG n da and the presser so that’s all he can say maybe there’s some truth to that I don’t know all right let’s let’s listen on since there’s nothing you can do I don’t see the point but let’s see that I mean we we get 30

Rebounds for the game they get basically 50 um it’s tough to absorb that you and I talked about getting off to fast starts before the game you said it starts with defense is that what you saw in the first quarter tonight it was it was I thought we did a really good job

Of locking into what we was trying to do defensively which did it got us off to to a good start um and we just couldn’t sustain you know we couldn’t sustain that team they just kept wearing on you kept wearing on you kept getting rebounds kept getting put backs and it was just

Uh it was tough and then we did have they did have we I mean turn I mean Eric listen it’s it s sustaining it for 10 minutes is understandable but Eric like that next 38 minutes is really tricky it it’s so hard it’s so hard okay go ahead I’m sorry what I

Wanted to look up something real quick but okay they only had 13 offensive rebounds I mean that’s a lot but not like who they yeah wait they Golden State had 13 offs of rebounds yeah but a couple a couple of those were were like on on one

Possession they got like three cracks at it so I mean that’s like you know on two possessions it’s like four right there so you’re already down to nine so I mean it really like them crashing the boards like that yeah it hurt you know on a few possessions but

It’s not like it was the overriding reason but anyway go ahead yeah also when the team shoots a lot of long threes uh the ball comes off long a lot so you might want to play we I mean we turned them over I think 13 times at the half but only for seven

Points you know so um we got to be do a better job but when we do get turnovers we got to be able to convert you know those are big opportunities um for us and also it’s a deflating play for them so uh just it wasn’t our best

Night hey coach um scoot had three steals tonight um obviously took turns guard starting some pretty Dynamic guards what do you think his potential is on on the defensive end oh I think he’s going to be uh when he when he learns you know how aggressive he could

Be at different points of the games he’s an aggressive Defender um he’s a tenacious Defender he’s going to be an elite defender in this in this league um but that takes a while because one he’s playing against most of these players for the first time in his

Life um it takes a while to kind of understand what these players what this guy wants to do what this guy wants to do um it’s even harder now because we switch so much so you can’t just can on you know Steph and clay or I mean it’s

The four men it’s you know everybody uh so his potential is very very high on the defensive end oh okay um I I don’t mind that last question I mean I’m curious about that too I mean look scoot’s got all the physical skills to be a good Defender I

Mean you know we’ll we’ll see if he puts that part together um look we did not unfortunately uh we did not scrap I I did not hear that we scrapped hold on just a second I’m gonna yes reconnect your call oh hopefully Rich answers right away cuz uh his mic was starting to

Go come on Rich answer the Skype there you are yes is that better uh yeah okay sorry chat no it’s all good I just didn’t want your mic to yeah but you’re you’re good now um I think we much better yeah so I I I don’t know how much you caught of that I I I

Like the last question I thought that was fair I think scoot can be be a good defender in this league but we did not get anything about scrapping Eric apparently there was no scrapping no scrapping well I me they were going to scrap until they got those two offensive

Rebounds and then you’re not allowed to scrap after that so there’s nothing you can do yeah oh my God that was That’s a classic I’m I’m so I’m so happy I was here for that live that was fantastic uh any any any comments was going

On I I did hear Tori uh hopefully this happens but he was going to do a video breaking down exactly why he doesn’t think Aon is as good of a rebounder as people think think she is um love to have a video with examples and stuff but um

Yeah cool what’s up Tori obviously I see you in the chat too Byron asks where do we go from here for the rest of the season um I think we just have to make it to the trade deadline where we trade some of our vets and then um and then we we should

Uh be a little different then I think from there you just try to get the young guys as much playing time as possible yeah I I mean there’s that you you want to you want the young guys to get as much playing time as possible from the front office you want them to

Turn our vets that were that we’re prepared to move for as maximum value as possible and then you you want to see things like how the Blazers um how they how they come out in the second half what adjustments they make in a third quarter and when they’re in tight games what what

Decisions what decisions uh Chanty will make in those competitive type situations regardless of whatever the outcome is I think those are the things that you look toward um you know as we as we go on in the season uh this is not this is not a situation unfortunately

This is not a situation where the Blazers are going to rattle off 13 straight and all of a sudden be in the hunt for the playin or anything like that like this is not that kind of season um and if you if you squinted you could have seen how pieces could have

Fit together to do that I know that you were very optimistic about that before the season started um but yeah I mean I I I think there is still good things to look for watching this team going forward and things that will illuminate what level of success the

Blazers will be able to achieve going forward so yeah I think there’s lots of reasons to you know like be interested in continuing to watch the Blazers this year and of course because of our respective channels please don’t tune out and move on yeah well at least with

R City retro you can talk about past up if this season goes too far yeah you know that’s a great Point like uh yeah be like remember remember the 91 Western Conference Finals like I can always yes thank you for that uh yeah all right so yes um do people like you you

Probably can’t even do a tank of Thon can you well I if want it no I can do I’ll do a tank ofon I just can’t that’s what okay so you’re on the honor System everybody has to trust you with whatever you reveal before the uh the Stream uh so at

Halftime I get pretty much everything all set up on my end uh I call Rich on Skype I get it all his camera all set up on my end and all that kind of stuff I felt pretty comfortable I was good to go right before the end of the game I

Was like hey you don’t be cool is if I added a SC a a scene for tank ofon um so that I can show the ton on the stream right and so I add the thing for ton and you got cocky you got [ __ ] yeah I got

Cocky and thought I could add something else to my stupid I had it figured out my stupid non-technology brain um had it all down and uh I decided to add something else and so it uh the little bottom ticker whatever uh so it it changed that to

Like the top of the ton screen and I was like what the heck I can’t have two different ones or whatever so then I decided to try like a whole different scene with just the tank ofon and I could switch to that like the intros on its own screen or whatever and

It I did that and it still changed the the bottom ticker thing to uh to the take Aon screen so I was like ah crap so I was like oh well screw it I’ll delete it right and somehow it deleted instead of the take Aon thing it deleted the

Whole setup I had for everything else and so I had to reset it all up and then yeah all that kind of stuff and uh so that’s why it took me so long to go live but I was trying to I was like okay I’m

Just going to do a ton thing and I was going to center it all and do all this stuff but yeah um see I don’t know how to do that I I thought I did but I didn’t apparently you do old dudes versus technology man that is that is

Our that is our issue at this point um yeah let’s let’s do it let’s do a thanon all right um the people the people want it now you guys like didn’t didn’t didn’t the Blazers win in tor’s last tank ofon no he did one on uh Friday we got

The or what day was that Thursday we got the number one pick yeah that’s what I’m saying yeah the police no the police won we lost no no no no we won the lottery we we won sorry I thought you meant cuz that was uh thing earlier in the season

Tori had a poll in chat should we do tank ofon after every game or only in losses and only in losses one so we can only do ton now um yeah well tonight certainly qualifies so all right do I dare try this once again no you don’t you just you just do

The simulation and then read off the teams to everybody yeah I think that’s the safest thing to do oh I like James James in chat said santhon window never mind I almost said something really inappropriate all right Tori thinks I can do it I don’t know

Wow okay I mean I’m not dissing you I’m just air I’m trying to air on the side of caution window capture Alvaro says do it what’s up Conor Conor just said hello everyone hello Connor hello again while you set this up I’ll just uh give a shout out to Chad

Chad what is up you guys I I I started coming in here to chat uh when I found the channel when the channel started in 2019 I never even like chatted in chat I was just kind of watching the streams and all that stuff and then when I

Started Rib City retro I actually started interacting with people you guys are so funny uh you guys say stuff that just really me laugh all the time whenever I come in the streams even though I’m I’m like pushing my computer like right up to my face with my triple

Vision trying to read it um but you guys are so much fun so uh Dro just said you are a very likable person that’s my plan D having food yeah exactly it’s it’s working um uh wish you could join Blazers uprise uh with Tori on two well

That’s a that’s a threesome and even though Eric loves them um that that just becomes crowded what have you done look at this Rich right but but are we gone forever uh maybe uh let’s just do it thank you for your stock thank you for your stock tips

I’m hit for a second Sim Lottery and go down okay Dro thank you for the comment I really appreciate it and we’ll scroll up uh oh I kind of scrolled it too fast 14 is uh New Orleans is the Lakers picks Portland’s pick from Golden State doesn’t move up that’s good in this

Scenario cuz uh then we wouldn’t get it if it moved up uh 12 is Phoenix 11 is uh Houston via Brooklyn 10 is Chicago uh nine Atlanta eight Utah 7 is going to San Antonio versus Toronto I believe that pick is top six protected so that’s the best it could be for San

Antonio scroll up a little bit more oh Portland got fourth it SC it Scrolls up too many I’m not I’m not a sorry on it um Charlotte moves down to six Detroit gets screwed once again uh so Memphis moves up five spots to the number one pick they’ve won three

In a row since jaw came back so um what did you what did you make what did you make of that by the way just just quick little uh talk about the League what was your thought when jaw came back and hit that gamewinner and his first came back I

Mean I don’t know I’ll tell you what I was thinking as an old head I was looking at it going well is that young man going to learn learn anything then if he just walks right back in and hits a gamewinner like I was like oh no this

Is the worst thing that could happen to the Grizzlies like JW just come back go that’s right that’s right that’s the worst thing that gonna happen to them you think they’ want high draft pick no no no but just in terms of getting jaw right you know like like almost it’s too

Easy comes back game one it’s a game winner it’s weird because at Murray State Jaws someone that I absolutely loved and oh yeah I saw him like just shoot up draft boards and stuff but I had already like like he was one of my guys in college that year

Um and unlike Tori I don’t think he should have gone over Zion but um I thought it was a lot closer than people said uh but uh yeah I don’t know the stuff though from last year H hang on hang on I I I have to okay one comment that that

That I am able to read Tori Tor Jones I think is the the young man chatting in the chat says uh I got a new bed let’s go no uh but congrats that’s awesome uh good good beds are important okay go ahead Eric he says he’s had the same mattress

For like 13 years and it’s awful but he got he must that must have been his big Christmas present from his mom or something congratulations yeah quality sleep is really important man there’s nothing better than getting a new mattress to go along with your manta Mass so uh go go

Visit Manta Mass um and improve your sleep by using a mantta mask as well uh Taylor wants us him to sign his old bed and give it to Taylor hey actually uh no joke though I would take him up on that Tory uh because cut up

Pieces of your bed no no no no and then just sign them old old heads like you and I rich know this this is an issue when you like want to get rid of a mattress like it’s not easy to get rid of a mattress right yeah it’s really hard unless unless

Unless you unless you schol unless you go to school at West Virginia University like I did where after a big win we just always burned our couches and mattresses true story we were weird people well so if someone’s offering to take your mattress just freaking let them take it

Dude that’s as weird as that is it’s like it saves you a lot of trouble it’s true trouble yeah yep um but yeah good to good to know that Tor got a new bed that’s great good for you Tori that’s good okay so

Eric uh may I may I as the guest can we can we open up the remainder of the show for questions life advice all good stuff yeah so and any questions any questions anybody wants to ask me whether it’s about Los Angeles or or the acting world

Or anything like that I’m I’m totally an open book like please hit me with it let’s go uh all that good stuff so do you want to come up and help Tor break in his new bed Rich no okay no no also yesterday Tori was on uh oh

Yeah he did the the BET online thing right bet us yes uh oh I’m sorry I’m sorry bet the BET us thing yes uh bad baby bad baby I think it’s genz Sports is the name of it uh go check that out is it gen orts or is it

Jen it’s Jen zorts but yeah yeah zort zorts yeah gen zorts yeah details like likees Tor talk about Bill P bill bellich favorite okay I see from Portland 77 favorite Christmas movie uh Eric do you have one handy off the top of your head

I gotta think I I know I used to love Christmas vacation I think I still do but I watched it with my girlfriend a few years ago and she did not like it and I remember coming from that going is is this well first off is this going to

Last and then second of all I was like is it not as funny as I remember but I but I think it’s still pretty great so Christmas vacation is first thing that comes to my mind off the top of my head what about you uh yeah I like Christmas Vacation um but

Uh man Tori just said bet us is calling me right now oh they’re mad um yeah on the other hand the the online people uh just just texted me and uh they they sent the vimmo so that’s nice so I appreciate that thank you but that was a mistake I’m

Sorry I mean I I like all of them like elf uh I like uh oh elf is great elf is great I like Christmas Story um yeah I mean I like all all of them ah okay uh Santa Claus oh I’m sorry go ahead the Santa Claus yeah I like that one uh

I see Dro says Rich how tall are you can you hoop uh so Dro I’m 6’2 so in in normal life I’m pretty tall but around Blazers uprise I’m I’m a little shorty uh it’s weird I have to run the point here it’s strange um because tor’s like what 6’4 and you’re

66 um can I hoop yeah uh I used to really be able to hoop uh but then I I hurt my back really badly eight years ago in a car accident um but before covid hit I was actually getting back to playing pickup basketball with

Like kids half my age and and kind of getting back to really play well and hitting gamewinners and stuff like that so yeah the the the weird thing for me was learning how to play again with triple vision from the car accident so like I literally as stupid as it sounds

I I had to really focus on hitting the one in the middle as as there like LeBron James that one time he got hit uh dude when LeBron said that it was so full of crap it made me so annoyed he was like I was seeing three of the rim

I’m like no LeBron I’m seeing three of the rim okay uh but but the but the crazy thing about playing pickup basketball drow that’s that’s still really tricky for me um and I had a slip and fall in December of last year so I haven’t been able to play this year

Because I’m hurt and dealing with other injuries and stuff but it’s the movement of the people and it it’s like the guy guarding me and everything it’s the ball coming at me like everything is happen it’s like three it’s three of the basketball coming at me so I had to I

Had to learn how to deal with that and it’s very interesting with a traumatic brain injury what your brain gets used to like I drive and you know all that good stuff my driving has never been the problem it’s always been the people around me that’s been the problem but um

Yeah so I mean I I still do all the normal things that I did before I just get headaches from time to time and things like that but Back To The Hoop question yes I can hoop I I I used to be really good back when I was younger I

Remember when I was in uh College in an inter mural game I put 32 points on uh like our our uh WVU’s uh starting uh quarterback back uh and and he had a team of like him and the offensive line had an in mural team and they just beat

The they beat the snot out of people physically and they beat us too so they beat us by like six points but I had like 32 points on him and they really couldn’t stop me so that was a lot of fun but nice yes I can hoop a little bit

So whenever whenever I heal up from from this slip ITF thing I will come up to Portland and and we’ll make it happen Eric it it will happen at at some point had someone come up to me the other day said they watched the show or whatever

And he’s like wow you really are 66 I’m like yep I get that a lot see he he thinks it’s like your internet dating profile where you you say you’re actually like 5’9 Tori probably gets that all the time like that I don’t think anyone believes

Him when he says he’s 6’4 but then when they see him in person they what is what is what is that right like this isn’t a digory in any way shape four but Tori does not strike the uneducated I as somebody who is like 6’4 I I like what

Is that like I you know I can’t I I’ve never been able to really wrap my head around that but I don’t I don’t know what it is I remember the first time I heard how tly was I was like what it’s just the posture or something but like I I don’t know

Yeah it’s weird because I yeah I didn’t his camera is above his head he said so it makes it and his monitor is Big yeah I guess so um okay any other questions that I’m that I’m missing uh um do you have any memorable Christmas Day NBA games that’s a perfect question for

You memorable Christmas NBA games gosh was the was the Trent Tucker game on Christmas Day I don’t know the game that the the Bulls and the Knicks were playing and uh the the Knicks were losing and they only had 0.1 seconds on the clock and they inbounded the ball to

Trent Tucker and Trent Tucker caught it shot it made the basket and then after that moment the NBA were like okay well this is ridiculous and so they they forever changed the game to where you have to have 310 of a second at least to

Get a shot off I for some reason I want to believe that was a Christmas Day game maybe I’m wrong about that um Christmas Day games I can’t really remember I always remember being really ticked off when the Blazers didn’t show up on the on the national lineup of Christmas Day

Games so I’d have to think about that I can’t really think of a super memorable Christmas Day game I know that when Shaq and Kobe were going to play each other for the first time Los Angeles was like losing their mind about it thinking like

Shaq was going to kill Kobe or some or something like that uh which did not happen but yeah I can’t I can’t really remember any super memorable Christmas games anything for you I mean as a Blazer fan 2009 watching Roy Brandon Roy scored 41 points against Carmelo Anthony

Who scored 30 something that game oh yeah yeah yeah um so that that’s the only one that I can really think of as a Blazer fan I remember a few years ago we played Utah and uh so this is the first year in 12 years that I haven’t um had

My uh store open to go I usually have to work on Christmas um so what happens is you know Christmas ends and then I have to go set up for New Year’s because it was a really important week for the store and uh so I Christmas I do the whole thing

With my family and then some point during the day have to go bow out and I would work all night setting up all the New Year’s stuff at the store and uh so I remember the Utah game watching on my phone at at the store while I was

Setting up New Year’s stuff and uh that was obviously before um we had Blazer’s uprise here I think yeah but uh but yeah would uh would be nice to get some more Blazer Christmas games in the future if uh we become good again but um yeah we I think we sucked

In that game and lost uh but uh yeah those are the only two games that I can think of right off the top of my head I saw uh if if you’re catching any questions uh that I’ve missed please let me know I saw somebody say what is your

Um what is your Blazer like top starting five in history and and I mean are we are we gonna say like in my heart like if if if that like like if we go if we if we go like just my favorite what your starting lineup is or like who your five

No starter no it’s like it’s like my five like I I think the the intention of the question was like your five favorite Blazers all time starting five meaning like Dame at the one Drexler at the you know like that kind of thing so so just

To Rattle it off the top my head and I get to cheat a little bit um I’ll say game Terry Porter in the back court Drexler at the three kiry at the four and we’re we’re going to go very small at the center Buck waves at five and

That’s totally cheating I’m blowing up the entire game uh if I have to pick my favorite Blazer starting five of all time it’s the early 90s it’s it’s uh Terry Drexler Jerome buck and duck uh that’s in case that was the intention of your question but um I know that there

Are more sensible Blazer starting fives where you’re going to say Dame and Drexler in the back court and you know Walton at the center and so on and so forth but that was just me kind of answering the question in my way what about you I think Tori is on his

Aeromancer Arc tonight um but uh I say uh nothing um gp2 for the all-time inactive spots I I would go for uh gp2 minutes I mean I think got to put walon it Center I don’t know well but I I was I was picking it like from my fandom like guys when they

Were Blazers when I yeah yeah if I’m doing my alltime starting five be Walton um so yeah I I probably agree with your I don’t know first three Dame Terry Clyde would be pretty sweet one through three four is a little more debatable yeah as much as I like Cy I

Don’t know if I don’t know I was just going with sheer love Yeah Eric yeah yeah uh let’s see what other any other questions here that you see Eric Olsson said Sheed look I love Sheed man there there were times where I was just like please just put it all

Together and become like a top 10 player in the League because from a talent standpoint he certainly had it uh least favorite Blazer ever from Tory Jones I mean least favorite um I’d have to really give this some thought um because you can you can pick somebody that because they were on the

Blazers it led to a there was domino effect so in that situation you could pick somebody like gp2 because that was the big free agent get right so uh and that’s that’s a waste um and then you know that season kind of spirals out of control you end

Up losing Dame etc etc so you know I mean gp2 would be as good a pick as anybody else but it’s a good question I I’m not quite sure yeah I’m about say did I know you’re GNA H me for oh my God I know you’re G well

Listen I didn’t I look an was mercenary like I’ve said many times to you before so you know if you didn’t like him and I know he was kind of a jerk to you at least once right for autographs and stuff no no he was never I thought oh no

Somebody said that to me in the comments where a was a jerk to that wasn’t me that wasn’t me okay no angel was a great player and he’s oroni and stuff I just I don’t know oh here’s a good question if you add Peak Travis Outlaw or Peak Rudy

Fernandez to this team who you who you taking uh well listen I definitely want to hit the clubs with Peak Rudy Fernandez uh and just like you know catch the catch the you know the Riff raft that drifts off to the side you know so but uh man that’s a good

Question what do you think about that with Eric Peak Travis Outlaw or Peak Rudy Fernandez um I’m taking Peak Travis Outlaw just because we need forwards not guards yeah probably yeah yeah yeah yeah um yeah John Weed uh thank you that’s a great one uh chance command needs to be our least

Favorite uh Blazer of all time even though he played a game for the Blazers uh cuz he is now going to prison for a long time for murder so oh I missed this oh you didn’t hear about this no I missed this when was this uh just just

Last week oh I okay last week was super crazy so no I missed this uh so yeah chance keni who played a game for the Blazers last year at the end of the season I think the very last game maybe um was on the roster for a couple more

Than just one game but um anyways uh he got picked up by by the Kings g-league team uh Stockton Kings or whatever and uh was playing on their g-league team and uh has already admitted to apparently someone he knew asked him for help uh basically killing someone and so

He went to Vegas to help he I guess what happened was uh they lured some girl to go with them somewhere and he was in the back seat with like an HDMI cord and uh strangled her from the back seat of the car is a guy who was playing and

Then play I think he played a game in the g- leag after that too uh yeah yeah okay so so him yeah he’s he’s my least favorite er ever yeah um let’s let’s shift gears Alex Wolf asked uh my favorite uh Spice Girl ever or asked you

As well so both of us uh do you have a pick for that I have a Spice Girl Story you do yeah uh I mean what what was what was the one that ended up with Beckham Posh Spice yeah I think that was POS I mean obviously she’s probably the best one I

Always kind of like baby spice though okay but I so so the redhe head was that like Jerry Hollowell I think her name so I was at this place in Los Angeles one time and this buddy of mine and I we were we were walking to a movie

Theater and there were these two girls who they they saw where we were going and we were in this place where the movie theater is very it’s kind of weird to get to and they asked us they were like Excuse excuse us guys do you know

Where the movie theater is and we were like oh yeah we’re going there right now it’s right up here and they’re like oh thanks and one of the two girls was Jerry Hollowell which was if anybody remembers which one was Jerry Hollowell I forget which Spice she

Was she was like she was like redheaded spice I know that wasn’t the name but whatever whatever her name was I don’t um she still looked real good she she still looked real good when we met her so anyway so we’re walking and talking and I immediately like identify who she

Is but she doesn’t say she is and I didn’t say anything and so my buddy was a DJ okay and he’s always like bragging about how he knows everything about music and all this kind of stuff and then we we walk the girls to the theater

And their movie is like I don’t know like 30 minutes away or whatever and my friend Jason says to her we we’re kind of wrapping up they’re like guys thank you so much for sh us where theat is okay so she was Ginger Spice yeah so

That makes sense so so uh Jason says completely embarrassing me and him says to her you you look so familiar to me you look so familiar I’m sorry I I you you know I I’m I’m really bad with faces but you look so familiar to me were you

Were you on a television show or something like that and I’m sitting here going you’re a freaking DJ man like what is you know and then she says uh and and she kind of like looks behind him to me and my buddy used to smoke a lot of pot well he still does

And uh shout out to the pot smokers and when she kind of looked at me like is he for real I went like like like he’s been smoking a lot of pot and uh she says to him uh yeah I was on a TV show I was on

ER and and he goes oh you’re on ER he was like that’s right I’m so sorry I mean just completely like Steps in it further right so we end the exchange we walk away and he was like uh you know as we walk away he’s like oh they were

Really nice he was like she’s really cute I was like yeah she’s really cute I was like she was she was she was really uh hot when she was in the Spice Girls you idiot and then he was like oh my God oh my God I’m so embarrassed I’ve got to

Go back and apolog I was like what no it’s over like leave this alone he goes back D he’s like I’m so sorry I didn’t recognize that of Co of course you were the I’m like oh my God this is like the BS kissy butt Los Angeles stuff

That I have never liked that quite frankly had I done it more I probably would have had a better career but um so yes uh but I would probably agree with you I mean I think Posh was the hottest or or like stayed the hottest right so

Beckham’s wife so I I’ll I’ll pick her as well um uh let’s see uh if you could take anyone from the 227 Detroit pistas team to approve the roster who would you take as a sort of combining teams with losing records kind of thing sorry I get so

Close to the screen I I have to do that to read it uh I don’t know Eric from the two and 27 Pistons who do you I mean it’s Cade right I mean or not uh I mean I think Cade would be pretty good think he’s got the size to play the

Three um so I don’t think Kade would be bad um but I really like Jaylen Duren um long term oh yeah and then also air Thompson I think would be perfect at the three right now uh him and him and tamani I think would be a like a souped up vers version of

Harless and aminu at the 34 so I probably I’d take any one of those three uh let’s see uh somebody else uh people are saying Duren somebody’s saying assar Thompson um all right Portland 77 says favorite grunge band or rapper from the 90s those are two completely different

Things my guy yeah no kidding right it’s kind of a question like are you racist or not like are you going to pick a grudge fan or a rapper uh my gosh what a what a question uh I mean if we’re gonna okay let’s just do both I

Mean I guess from the 90s it’s I mean if I just look back on like what I probably expose myself the most to and listen to the most uh probably Pearl Jam Pearl Jam is considered grunge right grunge B right am I wrong

Am I wrong on that I no Nana I wasn’t a Nirvana guy yeah uh so other than that I don’t really know’s okay rapper maybe maybe Tupac uh maybe maybe Tupac and mainly because because my my official last name is shoemate so Finley which everybody knows me by Rich Finley Rich Finley is

My acting name mate is my real legal last name Shu m a t but everybody would mispronounce it when I moved to Los Angeles like casting directors and stuff so I just decided to go ah screw it just Rich Finley it’s my first and middle name whatever but when I was growing up

When Tupac was really hot all my friends called me shupac and uh that was that was a lot of fun so I would probably say Tupac for for rappers in the 90s nice um yeah I mean my first album I remember getting uh I don’t know if my mom’s

Still listening but talked her into letting me get the chronic back in what like 92 or something okay yeah so I love dran Snoop and uh and that whole uh genre um and then yeah dude California Love is one of the greatest one of the greatest tracks ever and then yeah Tupac

And baby and all that stuff um and then uh so my mom so she she’s still here she said she just commented in the chat so she I was so dumb like but you know I was like 13 or something but like um so uh she’s like well let me listen to one

Of the songs after you get it or whatever and I was like oh like nothing but a G say that’s not bad like I’ll let her listen to that you know and then like started listening to it and just like yeah and it’s talking about like you know condoms and contraceptives

And you know like all the stuff from the beginning of that uh track and uh and I’m just like thinking like why did I pick this song as I’m listening to it my mom’s like this is terrible you know and I was so she didn’t make me give it back

Though I could listen to it so the the songs the songs that we listen to that maybe had like double and triple on Tandra meanings that we didn’t really realize what we were singing in the car that kind of thing right those those things to look back on are always kind

Of funny but today my the like on the radio was playing that song you can ring my bell you know that song you can ring my bell yeah and uh and my my girlfriend says to me just out of the blue she’s like what what is that song about and I was

Like are you are you joking she was like yeah what is the bell in that song I was like well like a lot people don’t think of it that way though you know she was really well I mean you know and I was like it well it’s about sex and she was

Like is it really I was like most songs are about sex really when you think about it yeah but uh but anyway yeah it was pretty funny and then and then I’m asking I’m asking her question is like okay when you used to go out to the

Clubs did you like when op came on were you like up with your girlfriends and yeah you down with op and S of that she was like yeah I was like did you know did you know what it’s stood for she was like well I I I think and then I had to

Explain to her what it stood for so yeah it was a pretty interesting conversation today Eric yeah makes you feel old looking back on those old songs any other questions Javon says it makes him feel so young yeah Trevon how old are you how old is Travon do you know I don’t know

Or I mean just I always find it so interesting when when I find out how old people on here are what’s funny is Taylor and Tori have now taken back to arguing about DeAndre aen some more good he’s 18 yeah oh my God you’re 18 years old

All right uh Trevon I don’t know if you were ever on the stream that I co-hosted with Tori you’ll have to go back and look for it I’ll just say very quickly as you as you go through your very very long life do not be the Quiznos guy okay

And I’ll just leave it at that people in the chat if you know you know if you’re remember that story you remember that story do not be the Quiznos guy and you’ll be fine um 18 years old my goodness I got socks on older than that

I don’t I don’t want to uh add to this uh argument between Tori and Taylor but you’re gonna uh so this is how sick I was on Thursday rich I tried to watch the game I could not physically like keep my eyes open to

Watch it um so I I texted Tori like dude I’m not feeling good I don’t think I can do a show later um I could even watch the game um and he’s like oh don’t worry about it it’s all good I got you in stuff which is great thank you um and so

I end up after I sent that message just passing out I wake up I look at my TV Rich there’s 7.8 seconds left we’re down one point and they’re reviewing the the thy steel SL foul or whatever um okay and so like I’m like wow we’re it’s like a

Onepoint game or whatever and you know the parts I saw the first half we were down double digits to the Wizards like or down every game double digits um so uh I was so sick that I didn’t even make it I didn’t even find out what happened

Till the next day cuz like I uh oh my gosh like 7.8 seconds left and I couldn’t even couldn’t even couldn’t even watch watch the screen like I was trying so hard to stay awake and I couldn’t um but anyways so I went back and uh actually just finished watching the game

This morning I’d watched uh we watched the first half and then uh watched um the fourth quarter this morning okay and as I was watching CU I watched uh so the next morning at work uh I watched tor’s uh post game show uh solo show and so

Like I had I was was watching it with everything he was talking about on my mind um and and that kind of stuff so I was thinking about uh you know what he was saying about DeAndre gon’s deandre’s offensive rebounding and stuff like that uh so I was like watching for like him

Making some good plays and stuff and he did have some good offensive rebounds but MH there were at least four I think five offensive rebounds by DeAndre Aon where he got a pass right around the hoop and missed an easy Layin and just happened to get his own rebound on that play

Because he missed it like right off the front of the rim or something it came right back to him so that was like half of his rebounds right there and then another couple of those offensive rebounds the old Moses the old Moses Malone rebounds yeah and then then a

Couple other ones were uh two of them were tamani and one of them was Jabari uh basically crashing the board so hard that it the ball got tipped back or uh like it wasn’t him like crashing the boards the ball just got like like there

Was a Scramble for the ball and it just happened to go to DeAndre so I I’m not trying to say anything for either side of your arguments but I do think the 10 offensive rebounds is a little a little misleading U from last game because a lot of them

Were uh like cuz if you count his 10 offensive rebounds then you can’t really count his points I guess because a lot of those should have like he should have been much more efficient with it than he was it’s it’s kind of you know like every every story tells a I mean every

Game tells a story right so it’s like if you went back and looked at any of those Seasons that Russell Westbrook averaged a triple double and watched how they how they worked his rebounds to where Stephen Adams like on a free throw on free throws Stephen Adams would just basically clear out

Everybody and let Russ come in and get the rebound because nobody else is around uh yeah so you know are those people say like stocked and assist if you go back and look like how many of them were oh my gosh yeah where you know a guy

Stockton passes the ball a guy runs three steps takes a dribble a pump fake and then takes the shot and they say Jeff horc from Stockton well who was that last year there was someone chat help me out here uh just help me out here and and uh

There was a player last year someone did a huge thread on it about his stats home and away or something and the you know the answer and do you know the answer or you don’t really know the answer I can’t remember who it was do you remember oh

Okay no no I’m I don’t there was a player that his stats were like drastically different oh yeah was was it jiren Jackson like his blocks they were counting blocks for him at home differently than they were on the road or so so deflections were getting

Counted as or like like if a person missed a shot or something like they would say he got it’s because he got a piece of it or something you know or or he changed a shot and they just went ahead and said he emotionally blocked it

Yeah gave him credit for that oh that’s funny that’s awesome that’s really funny yeah I missed that one I didn’t hear about that at all uh oh that’s that’s so funny uh well I mean Eric we could I I feel like we could probably do this for a

Really long time yeah uh and it’s just so much fun uh with with uh the people in chat um but but you know I mean it’s your show uh what do you want to do you want to kind of wrap things up let wrap things up appreciate everyone for

Watching uh thank you so much uh it’s been fun thank you Rich for joining us uh one more one more time uh let everyone know where you where they can find your content at sure so just real quick I I I want to say again thanks to

Eric for having me uh help out tonight thanks to Tori for letting me help out tonight uh anytime I can ever help the guys out I’m always as long as I’m around uh I’m willing to help um if you’d like to you know I cover all this

Stupid going down a rabbit hole uh you know talking about the the hottest actress that I had crushes on when I was growing up things like that like I talk about I talk about Blazer basketball but I talk about a bunch of other stuff because I I look at basketball like it’s

A good metaphor for life in general and I like to use the metaphors of life to talk about basketball as well so um you know join me over at Rip City retro it’s just as you would imagine it’s spelled Rip City retro and uh just click like share subscribe I’m going to have

Something out on Christmas Day I’m not quite sure when it’ll come out uh Christmas Day because my equipment is really brutal and sometimes my downloading and uploading to YouTube time really takes a long time and and people that have come to the show know that sometimes uh there are camera

Issues and things like that and I’m I’m in the process of trying to upgrade these things uh but I’ve had so much going on this year with my health that it’s been a bit of a struggle but uh you know please come over to the channel I I

Try to to do some creative things with my intros uh to make you guys laugh uh I did uh I did a Walking Dead intro Eric I don’t know if you saw that one yeah where I basically took the entire Blazers roster and I I essentially made

That like the intro to The Walking Dead and uh people seem to really like that a lot uh including your mom which which I was very flattered when uh Charlie got on there and said that she liked it um so yeah I just I I I try to interact

With you guys as much as I can I I try to just kind of when when Eric and I can do long form videos we do uh and then in the meantime I just try to hold things down and give you guys a little bit of content go back and forth with anybody

That puts comments in the videos I like to respond to everybody as much as I can especially like I said because the channel is so small right now with over 660 subscribers um you know if you guys uh ever want to help out the channel you

Always always can you can hit me up on VMO or the cash app at Rich se3 it’s just how you would imagine the spelling is it just goes to kind of continuing to build the channel um but again like I said this is such a fun Community the

People that have come over to ripy Retro pretty much every person there has been on blazers uprise at one time or another and that’s how they found me um but you guys have been so nice and um you know I feel like it’s it’s another nice channel

For Blazer fans to come to and and kind of talk real with each other but there’s there’s not a lot of you know smearing talk going on I always try to see everybody I I try to understand everybody’s argument even if I don’t agree with it and uh I try to give

Respect to everybody that comes in the comments and things like that because if you’re going to take the time to say something to stupid little old me um then I’m going to give you the respect back so uh yeah just head on over to the channel and like I said anytime that I

Can help the guys out uh I’m willing to and you know it’s a painful slog being a Blazers fan and I’ve I’ve been doing it now for 35 years and I want you know when I was growing up I think I told you this before Eric when I was growing up

And and you too one of the biggest deals in sports was the end of the Season Sports Illustrated Championship packet where they would put out like they do it for the Super Bowl they do it for the NBA Finals they do it for Major League Baseball and when your team won Sports

Illustrated would have a video chronicling you know and now everybody had like the Blazers have the trail right like you know this is where Hard Knox you know Hard Knox came off that but back in the day it used to just be that that championship video that Sports

Illustrator put out and then the Blazers which was really cool which a lot of other franch we were we were so lucky you guys to have had return to rip city Running Down a Dream make it happen those three yearbook videos that were put out by the Blazers in 99192 and if

You haven’t watched them please go watch them there’s so much fun they still really hold up today they’re great they’re great fun to watch and like my what I wanted more than anything growing up was I I want to see the Blazers win the NBA championship I want that

Championship t-shirt I want that Championship hat and I want that Sports Illustrated commemorative championship video and um oh I’m not no if I ever get that when when Drexler went on to Houston and won the title I did purchase the packet for the Rockets because

Drexler won but it it was in no way shape or form the same I never wore the Hat I never wore the shirt I watched the video the video was cool um and I was so thrilled for Drexler that he won a title but I just remember being like yeah but

Gosh if this was the Blazers it would just be amazing and especially if it had been Clyde in the Blazers just like if it had been Dame in the Blazers so um you know I I’m still I’m still holding on to hope that we that we’re starting

To assemble the pieces that will someday hopefully get us to the promised land I’m hoping that Chanty wakes up tomorrow and is just oh my God I can coach like I just I hold out hope you guys and uh you know like I said Eric’s Eric’s nice

Enough to let me plug the channel and things like that but uh you know come on over and check out the channel I’ll have something for you guys on Christmas Day and uh I just I just appreciate the Blazers uprise Community because there’s no ripy retro Community without the

Blazers uprise community so thank you guys so much yeah and thank you Rich for coming on and also thank you to Tori for allowing us to do the postgame show tonight and for helping me set it up and all that just by with family uh but I

Think I think we did it right okay we had some mic issues and stuff but I fixed them along the way let’s go um but uh yeah I hope everyone who celebrates uh Christmas has a has a merry merry Christmas and uh if you don’t whatever holiday you celebrate happy holidays and

Uh that’s going to be it for Blazers uprise until Tuesday uh we have a game I believe we’re playing the Sacramento Kings on Tuesday uh so we’ll have a postgame show for sure after that game I’m not sure if we’ll do Blazers uprise live uh that afternoon or not um have a

Talk to Tori about that but possibly a show in the afternoon as well uh but definitely sometime on Tuesday will be the next time we see you because there is no Blazer games the next two days and uh we will and and from and from me very

Quickly before you do this I don’t know I don’t know where you stand Eric it’s not my business anything like that to chat Merry Christmas you guys I hope you all have a wonderful holiday with friends and family and much love to all you guys Merry Christmas and your mic’s going out

Again okay con yeah don’t don’t even worry about me goodbye all right and uh yeah thank you for watching and supporting us uh happy holidays and until next time peace out go Blazers

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  1. congratulations eric on your weightloss hope you feel better soon, i myself am going through a weightloss phase, went from 95kg, and currently 87kg, looking to stay around 80. ( i am 5'11)

    nice to have rich on, could definitely tell he is an actor, im going to check out rip city retro for sure now

  2. The Alpha Omega speech didn't work. Blazers played their softest game of the season. This is not a good look. Hope I'm wrong, but I think Coach lost his team already. The vets look checked out.

  3. Rich is in L.A. No wonder he isnt properly grim and dark.
    As for the alleged basketball contest it provided piss-warm interest and then shame as what always happens happened.
    Warriors dont respect the blazers and cant be bothered to even look at the scoreboard. Marvelous things must be happening in Detroit because these blazers are terrible at playing basketball but they are somehow lapping the pistons.

  4. I didn't want to waste my time on this game. Did not watch. Pondering weather to cancel the extra cable subscription I need for this dismal season.

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