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Off top did you know that human skin can’t feel wetness just heat and touch play the music this is the Dominique Foxworth Show Welcome to The Dominic foxw Show hey Charlie hey Clark I don’t believe that you are so lucky that neither one of us are Pablo Tor with that off top why oh yeah oh yeah thank you thank you I do not Pablo is a gross human being
But um I have a story to tell that I already told you Charlie that I feel like we must bring it to the podcast audience and it is so unbelievable I guess probably a lot of people listen to this might follow me on social media
Which I don’t do much posting but I had to tweet that I was out on New Year’s Eve and a man walked up to me at the bar I’m with my wife and he says Trey like kind of an knowing question mark and I was like I just assume he was looking
For his friend Trey I was like oh no no no no I’m not Trey and then he doubled down no no Trey young Trey young I was like no sir I am not Trey young and I was in shock and So eventually my wife and I left and went to a different
Restaurant and had dinner and we were home early like 10 o’clockish like ready and it just hit me again like this I was Trey young and I know what Trey young looks like but I still had to Google Trey Young was like I was looking for a
Feature like from complexion and I all I found was Trey is listed as 61 and I’m 5’11 so we are the same height ish like that that is it nothing else about us I was gonna say I was gonna say that’s that’s the worst part of it I will I
Will not stand for the Trey young hair slander because my hairline is creeping back so as a member of the not great hair society that is the only thing that I guess we have in common poor and he’s 25 like I I wish or 26 something I wish
That I could credibly pass so and not that you have to ask but of course this was probably like a 60- year old white guy 58 something it was great it was it was so outrageous that I couldn’t even be offended it was like this is just Immaculate anyway welcome to the
Dominique foxer show we had some really good college football and we have the right person here to unpack it all with us the polka do Kevin Clark by the way all jokes aside I love polka dots I hadn’t worn this jacket in a while and I decided to just bring it
Out it’s a festive jacket it’s it’s not it’s a memorable jacket so when you have clothes like that can’t well you also get a lot of YouTube comments and stuff when I bring this out I believe I wore this once with in a rill slow news day
People called it a war crime um a lot of like outof work magician which is like I don’t like magician is a freelance job it’s a contract job it’s hard to be an outof work magician like it’s not like well I mean you could have I guess you
Could be like uh like David Copperfield or something where you steady a standing yeah but most most M most magicians you are you’re right they’re like going from job to job but I will say that I think how can I say this in a way that’s not
Insulting because I don’t mean it to be insulting I think it’s because you’re wearing it that they made the I feel like that was a not insulting route no I just meant like they’re shocked at your style like give off’s no way to say so
You see me in a polka dot jacket and you think this is an unsuccessful magician like no no no no no no no no I say I see my guy’s taking a chance and he’s Landing it but I think all these other people I’m guessing if you look at the
Screenshots of the people who are saying this they probably don’t got the heart to take a chance and they thought you was one of them you’re not one of them you can take a chance those cowards that’s all I won is what you’re saying yeah I won I won good job Charlie W
Right I agree good job you you look fantastic Charlie what you want to talk about first let’s we gotta talk some college football um we’ve got Kevin Clark who predicted the Michigan Victory on Paul F F fine bomb show angering all the fans um so that game yeah let’s talk about
That game Let’s dig into it because I think it was the first best football game I can remember in a college football playoff like the Special Teams Alabama Center being unable to snap the ball uh Jaylen Milo being incredibly erratic Michigan playing only Spurs of the game well um but after that result
Do you feel like Michigan was actually the better team well okay so I do they got away with some of their shortcomings because Alabama played a very sloppy game if the snap is higher and milro follows his pulling guard we might be having a completely different convers ation today but there’s this narrative
And I think this is the first modern college football playoff I think that we’re going to look back on this and say this was the beginning of something you’re familiar with 247 Talent composit OR Blue Chip Ratio or whatever Michigan and Washington should not be competing for National Championship that is not
Following the recruiting trends of of the country of the game I mean this is this is completely uh uncharted waters as far as the quote unquote Talent makeup of these teams now you augment that with the portal you augment that with with what seems to be on Michigan
Side basically an NFL staff if you look what what they’re trying to do as far as borrowing coaches from the Ravens all that stuff but also I was looking at this the other day on the PFF they have a a big board of of all 256 picks or
Whatever it should be Michigan has 15 players who look like they’re going to get drafted so like we can’t just be like oh well they what the Miracle on Ice you know oh my God I can’t believe they closed the gap on Alabama they’ve gotten they’ve closed the gap on Talent
Now Alabama has more five-star recruits on its roster than the entire Big 10 they had perhaps if you look at their recruiting patterns oh my God they had most the most Talent roster basically by recruiting in the history of of football um their Blue Chip ratio was something
Like 94% if that just means four and five stars versus three and two stars and so but how do you negate that inconsistent offense throughout the year sloppy mistake AK and even like like M Michigan had Free Runners yesterday all over the place JC laam huge Prospect
Gets blown off the ball in the last play of the game basically trips up milro which compounded the the low snap and so I just think that what we’re seeing here is teams finding ways to bridge the talent Gap that means development which I’ve always found to be overrated but it
Means being a good coach team with an identity I mean like Michigan almost reminds me of the Lions a little bit where you can skip steps in the build when you have an ident you know what you want they want to be a physical tough team along the lines along the front
Seven we saw that yesterday they’re an aggressive team I already mentioned Jesse Menor replacing Mike McDonald from the Ravens they doing basically a a coach exchange thing you know study abroad go go to college for two years then come back and be the Ravens DC that’ll probably happen when Mike
McDonald becomes the a head coach you know in in a month um and so I just think it’s we’re starting to see college football change in front of our eyes and Washington’s even bigger indictment of this but Alabama an inconsistent overrated team in the SEC um losing like
That is a sign not of things to come because I’m sure they’ll be back but it’s a sign of of of the college ball World flattening so as um you said a lot of things that are really interesting and the one that I want to jump on first
Aside from a Michigan coach taking over the coordinator job in Baltimore which I think should be reserved for my college teammate dard Wilson that’s a whole another conversation I um I think what is interesting is in this analytic itics heavy world and it’s not just analytics
As much as it’s human nature we like to be able to say that things are better or worse and we like to assign some value to certain things and I say this when you’re talking about recruiting and getting four and five stars saying that a player is four and five star or four
Or five star player is the best recruit I think most of the time means that they are better than the other players and it’s accurate it’s not to say that the rec I’m not arguing that the way we grade recruits is wrong I’m sure there’s some biases in the system but to your
Point when you are when you understand what you want to be and what you want to do you can recruit to that ability and so while you may have a two or three star it’s like how bellich always we always point to bich and he says I focus
On what the players do well and and not what they can’t do if you’re like all right we want to be physical hard noosed let me over index on these bull rush monster up front maybe they’re not going to be able to do all these other things
Maybe they won’t be the highest NFL grade but if they fit in our system and they do what we want us to do well then that could be a fast track and of course that makes your lane for Success slim it’s like if somehow you get caught in a
Style of game that you don’t want to be in or you’re not uh equipped to participate in and if like frankly if uh last night it felt I feel like we are at a place with the progress of the way that we talk about quarterbacks that we can be honest
About Jaylen milro and his ability to attack down the field if they have a quarterback that has a better ability to tack down the field the the way that they were aggressively attacking long story short you ain’t gonna do that against against Michael penck Jr I promise you you’re not gonna Blitz and
Then Blitz and Blitz and then Blitz you’re leaving your guys isolated in Alabama obviously has the athletes to make big plays the reason why they weren’t connecting and making them pay down the field was because milroe didn’t seem to have the time and he’s like not a prolific passer the best thing they
Did offensively with him was design quarterback runs which is why on that last play I think it’s a misunderstanding and we talked about it a lot this morning on TV I imagine by the time people get to this podcast they might know that that last play was not I
Mean it seemed like a run pass option and it it looked a lot like what the Eagles do uh down in those situations so arguing that that was a bad play call I think is saying Eagles have good play calls because I haven’t seen those lately no the Eagles do not have good
Play calls but I think it’s a smart thing to do when you have that quarterback and the the tough thing is they probably were not expecting a a snap and should have been yeah they should have been and and it gets harder when you’re facing a zero Blitz everything speeds up everything speeds
Up and you don’t have the time to have a low snap against a zero Blitz and to make I want to talk about the defense and what you were saying saying about recruiting to the scheme so uh if I may drop a nugget this is um I was talking
To a coach over the summer and they were talking about Michigan and they were saying oh hold on hold on hold on hold on so you’re calling them nuggets and not name drops I can’t really say who the coach was we weren’t really on the record okay so it’s a nugget it’s a
Nugget wi got plenty of name drops coming I mean I just I got I got a lot a lot and I just spook I just no no big deal in the last hour I just spook one of the best quarterbacks in football for Super Bowl week so I don’t know be ready
Be ready be on your toes shout out shout out um Allison Turner anymore yeah oh that’s right we probably should that out but yes just leave iter bus um but uh they were saying essentially one thing that Michigan wants to do is play NFL style defense couple reasons on that number one number
One thing college quarterbacks don’t want to see in this this era complicated pressures they do not want to see that they want to see let’s spread them out let’s see the simplest stuff do the re run pass option figure it out every defense is is oriented towards that and
Michigan says guess what we’re going to do we’re going to run NFL pressures at you and you’re gonna have no idea what’s going to go on this happens over the course of the year it’s not specific to yesterday but I thought that was interesting you get you make things more
Complicated on defense and you recruit guys who can do that and things will things will happen I would I think there’s a lot of zags like the the most famous one of the most famous stories about belich and the way he views scheme is he switched from a three4 to the 4-3
Because he made the 34 so popular that nose tackles are really hard to get so he was just like all right well I created this thing I gotta change it up because I can’t get nose tackle anymore so let’s flip it I’ll go to a 4-3 get
Guys with a hand in the dirt on the outside all that stuff I think the way college football has become so homogeneous on some of these things they think you can flip it and recruit towards the scheme and get a real advantage say okay I’m not going to get
A five star like I just mentioned the stat about Alabama and their five stars I’m not going to get a five star what I can get is a high three star who can play this role this left outside linebacker role in our scheme exactly
The way I want it to do and I can I can blow JC L them off the ball uh late in the Rose Ball it’s it’s a a bit of an oversimplification but I think that’s a smart way to approach football in general if you notice like if you look
At what the 49ers are doing in the NFL it’s attacking the areas of the of the field that we have deemed uh yes low value position so like attacking the linebackers and the safeties if you’re going to play well against the 49ers you’re going to need the Ravens roster
Which is really good linebackers and really good safeties it’s the same thing happening in college and and frankly it’s a good strategy no matter what business you are in is attack the areas where other people aren’t focused but takes a good and a confident coach to
Zig While others are are zag and Charlie you look like you have something to say no no no I just want to ask so we’re not talking about the Michigan defense and how they’ve been able to progress this we should talk about the other game and
How it fits into it which is mik Michael penx Jr in Washington and someone who looked like I don’t know the best player in college football as he torched Texas and how he is completely electric so 430 two touchdowns it was outraging it wasn’t even the numbers as much as it
Was how he did it it reminded me I brought this up this morning CJ stra how we talked about CJ strad all last year is like okay he’s good and then he went into that yes um playoff game we were like oh wow it really took notice and
That’s what it felt like with pennx is I I know he has an injur injury history that like hurts his I guess I shouldn’t to motiv yeah I shouldn’t spin it to NFL prospect just yet but I will say I do have a follow up on that we’ll get there
I will say that those throws man I just I kept thinking Aaron Rogers with the way that he was just drill in those seam middle like oh yeah and the bucket throws the Deep ones they were crazy insane and and I just he’s a transformational quarterback like he’s a
It reminds me I would never compare the two but I remember well I’m GNA compare the two um no the uh I remember a couple years ago couple years ago 12 years ago 13 years ago I was watching uh like the postgame rap up show they us with like
Mark May and Lou Holtz and those guys and and Cam Newton had the Auburn like nine and0 and and great question asker said hey guys what would have happened if Cam Newton went to Mississippi State because that was the big story there and they say Mississippi state would be nine
And0 playing for the National Championship in a couple weeks and I remember thinking like that’s no for simplification and you’re like wait no it’s not Cam Newton can do whatever he want and like you saw the drafted players in Alburn a couple years later it was all Cam Newton and I don’t think
Michael penx is to that level obviously Cam Newton is is probably the second best quarterback college quarterback I’ve seen in my life by Tim TBO um in fact they on the same roster was is incredible to me um but anyway oh dare you sorry like I that a compliment
I I if he’s the second best college quarterback I’ve ever seen that’s pretty good it’s pretty good he only played one year division 1A as a starter um so I think that penx is the type again we go back to Modern college football Washington is going to be the first team
Ever if they win the national championship to do without a festar on their roster okay TCU had a festar on the roster last year um that did up mattering but I’m just saying like you can accidentally get five stars in this and and Washington doesn’t doesn’t have
One um he throws the best deep ball in the sport um it’s just a tough well- coached team um and I just I’ve I’ve fallen in love with this um and I think you know the teams going through the portal now and getting a quarterback and
A couple other guys Michigan I think has has more guys in they’re to deep from transfers than than Washington does but going out and getting one transformational player I’ve always said High School recruiting determines the floor portal recruiting determines the ceiling um and everybody keeps saying
Well the best players don’t go into the portal and that’s true but but about to say year in the new college football I’ve always said that the past three years teams like Georgia Alabama they don’t lose starters in the portal but only four or five players only four or
Five schools get the best players so every other there’s aund however many there are 120 schools that literally have to do the by Patchwork and literally the dream is hitting on a guy like Michael penx who can bring everything together and I think we’re going to be looking back on this in very
Special way I think I think he’s an NFL player I think he’s a first- round pick I don’t care necessarily about the acl’s unless there’s some your doctor looks at it and says okay this guy’s gonna blow his ACL in the first month of an NFL
Player like I think you know what you do if he says that you like the Dolphins doctor with bre yeah but yeah but I think exactly a lot of Scouts I’ve talked to over the past couple months youve been like why didn’t we see CJ strad coming as the
First overall pick when we saw what he did to Georgia which is as close to an NFL defense as you can possibly get there’s a proof of concept there he torched them and all of a sudden Michael penx is even though he struggled as the
Season went on like when you see a guy do that to a highlevel talented defense that’s an NFL proof of concept I I I just I think we we project so much we say oh what about this go to this guy hey look look at the actual things that
He’s able to do that it’s going to work in the NFL in this college football playoff I think you know J.J McCarthy some people have as a top 10 pick who looks I mean obviously he’s got a huge physical tools he’s a big guy he’s very
Fast he can throw the ball really far he was far less impressive playing against Alabama’s defense compared to what pennx did in his sem the first play of the game p also the first play of the game McCarthy looked like a contest winner he just threw it right he was like ah I
Don’t know and he threw it to an Alabama player who thankfully didn’t declare back in in by like he does make mistakes his numbers haven’t been hav been gy there there’ve been a lot of stats about what’s been happening after the Conor stallion Scandal which I thought were disingenuous they were playing better
Teams as the season went along um but I just think you you just saw a rut when they played Big 10 defenses I think big 10 defenses their numbers have been sort of over uh overblown like I think if you look at the top 10 defense in the
Country like eight of them are big 10 defenses um because they just sit around not scoring any points against each other but J McCarthy me to me did not do anything special enough to get into that top 10 especially when you consider how deep that is I mean you’re talking about
Caleb Williams Drake may I think Jaden Daniels would probably be number three for me and then Michael penck will be number four for me and then you have bonick who like I don’t know how you how you guys would view that but like he’s another guy a proof of concept guy who’s
Put up a lot of good throws yeah I wonder if so I don’t want to spin too far into the um Harbaugh to the NFL conversation but it does feel like it’s his last agent agent it does feel like it’s his last season he when got Dai which I guess people are making
A connection to Brady and uh the Vegas Raiders which I’m not sure why he would make that move when uh there’s Herbert sitting there begging for are you famili with go get get a laptop up and Google the Spanos family and you might have your answer oh oh oh them not spending
Money is that what we’re talking about meddling that might make that kind of thing yeah fair point I got one more QB draft question for both of you guys because I think stad was sort of discounted because of Marvin Harrison Jr Chris alve Garrett Wilson is a tiny bit
Of that happening with pennx because he was playing in a pack 12 offense he has a top 10 picket receiver are we seeing that situation sometimes can it’s it can be Talent not just situation even in college offenses because we’ve seen Big 12 Big 10 pack 12 quarterbacks be
Discounted because of situation not just situation I don’t think people are watching them like I think the the bit one of the one of the underlying truths of college football is that most people talking about college football do not watch college football and they’re not up at
1: am watching and especially the NFL guys who have Sunday morning you know we got to watch Jay Glazer Splash report I got I’m locked in on Jake Glazer Splash report um and so like the idea that everybody all these guys who are watching who were watching from like
11:00 a. to to 1:00 a.m. on Saturday like it’s just not the same group of people and so I think pack 12 guys are always dinged because they don’t play in the fox noon big noon Saturday game or the you know the CBS SEC 330 game like you are dinged because of visibility
Always I mean on demand watching works also you don’t have to watch them live and then watch the stuff what about what if I got what if I want to rewind shefer on Sunday morning did you rewind him because we have then then all of a sudden what I’m
Watching Washington State I’m watching cam W against State and I have misser um uh so har leav we accept that do you guys at all care I don’t really care about the cheating scandal anymore I also don’t really care about the Florida state conversation I don’t care about
The Florida okay can do 10 seconds on both those things Florida the thing I feel bad about for Florida State I feel bad about oh well that that’s not fair that’s fa feel bad about Forida state is that again we’re talking about modern college football they pushed all their chips
Into the table for this year like they retained a bunch of guys they spent a bunch of nil on this year they got a goty like Keon Coleman who’s basically the in baseball terms like a one-year rental comes from Michigan State know knows he’s going to leave after the year
Already has bunch of old guys covid seniors like they had a bunch of Elder Millennials on the team those guys are gonna opt out to go to like a blink 82 concert like that’s how old they are and so now like they’ve got nothing I doubt I doubt it maybe what what Elder
Millennials do older Millennials do Dominic you should have I mean you should have got I mean you should have got a rapper or the outcast there we go that’s that’s perfect that’s right that would have worked for everybody you would go you would go to a blink 1882 concert with us
You would me yeah you’d love it I don’t I mean I’d go for the last I don’t know any blink after that Hey listen all the small what’s My Age Again oh oh the yeah I I don’t know they’re aren’t they from like mar San Diego they’re from San
Diego what the hell just happened you’re think of Good Charlotte good Char oh goodl completely different levels of Fame and sucess together that’s like say that’s literally that’s confus that’s like confusing Michael Jordan for like Keon dueling that’s what just happened there in pop Hey listen I have a
Question Dominic I wanted to ask you because I thought you were gonna bring up the con stallion all right through whatever reason how many times have you defended a play where you knew exactly what was going to happen and how much did it help um it helped a lot and it’s happened I
Don’t know tens of times over the course of My Career College impr would that be because probably close to 100 because you knew you figured out a keyword or something like yeah yeah it was like a or or like in college offens is a pretty
Simple so I think about um NC State like I knew what play they were running almost every play because they ran Bunch Concepts there was only three or four plays that we that we could see against NC State when um when we played them so
Yeah there are times when and in the NFL there are some keys that you can pick up on so you’re not 100% certain but you have a good feeling and it helps a tremendous amount to know that you don’t that exactly where you have to cover doesn’t
Mean it’s G to you can stop it no it doesn’t most players are designed so they have other options and that they should work in other ways and you’re still going up against really talented good players but I also remember knowing that um Calvin Johnson was going to run
A dig when he was quarterback By Reggie ball and it didn’t matter I was standing there waiting for the Dig and Calvin’s big climbed the ladder and caught it and landed on me and it was sad and painful at the same time last thing wouldn’t Conor stallion be an amazing podcast
Guest who knows more about Kyle tripal than him no I don’t want to oh gosh I guess he would be but um I can we talk Florida State a little bit I mean do you guys do you feel like them getting their would meant anything as
Far as justification for the um for them being left out of playoffs or Vindication for the um committee should I mean not that they needed it Charlie Georgia would have won the playoff is what I got from that game so they were both the committee was both shamed and Vindicated by that game
It’s like we should you got to win the games Georgia lost to Bama but they’re definitely the best team well you can’t say you got to win the games while also having a team that won the games uh that’s what I’m saying that was there was no good outcome for the committee in
That game I guess the worst possible outcome would have been Florida State blow out Georgia but no one I think so I think Florida State should have undoubtedly gotten in the 14 playoff I think leaving out a power five undefeated team was a bad precedent by the way both undefeated teams in the
Playoff Advanced Justice for the BCS but Justice for I know just oh bring it back um I think that I think there’s two separate conversations I think that it doesn’t say anything about their playoff chance or what they should have what they should have what the community
Should have done I don’t think it says anything about that I do think that it’s a bit disingenuous to be like this meant nothing it was an exhibition you lost by 60 points it’s a bunch of guys who are going to play for you next year it’s
Either your backups or your young guys the guys you developed the guys who weren’t from the portal I do think it probably suggests that there’s going to be a a I don’t I don’t want to say falling off a cliff there but like I didn’t see I didn’t see the Cavalry
There where I’m like uh oh they’re going to be a problem in 20124 and maybe they’re going to add 20 guys in the portal or whatever I’m going to see some maybe there gonna be some incredible development I’ll say that that they should have made the playoffs but losing
By 60 to Georgia especially in the second half when they had a bunch of their backups they were playing will muschamp’s kid and he was doing his little like like have you guys ever seen Nate Ty’s Rose Bowl highlight where he’s just running through the defense because
They’re just like well let’s just give Nate Ty some run in the Rose they had they had they had will mush’s kid doing that against fla State’s second string and that’s not good that’s not good for anybody and so um I think it probably suggests something about the
Program of Forida state but it doesn’t suggest anything about the the committee decision they they should have been a I mean this was the best case for the committee I mean No One’s Gonna No One’s Gonna continue to Cape for Florida State um after they lost
By I don’t know if you’re deep into foror State Twitter but uh they’re they’re on this one yeah but college football fans are crazy they’ll always find a way to defend their team that that’s a given I’m talking about the general public Jen
Gen pop is not GNA be like oh my God the committee got it so wrong because we we would have rather seen Florida State lose by 60 against Michigan the only two people who wanted that matchup were Michigan fans who wanted even more than Florida State fans and Florida State
Fans like the people who were loudest about Florida State getting in the playoff were Michigan people which tells you every like the they were devastated when they found out they had to play Alabama in the room they were more the out the the Michigan fans were more devastated about having to
Play Alabama than the Ford State fans were when they figured out they weren’t getting like it was bad that in that room I’m being a little bit fous but not by much who’s gonna win national championship Dominic um Washington Michael penck and the Washington Huskies are going to be a five starless um
National Champion I agree well uh it’s going to be Washington but hey what what was your rating three star okay out of here this the disrespect were you a five star a five star get out of here they they wanted they wanted to give me six but I said no
Thanks recruit rankings don’t go back that far I’ve googled this before I’ve got yourpedia there’s no answer they do I’m sure my dad still has the magazines in the basement I was absolutely a five star I was running a fraudulent 435 so yes I was a five
By everybody by Rivals by all the the people who measured that back then you think I would lie to you I can I’m telling you did NC State Purdue in Pittsburgh among the 13 scholarship offers he received um benched o bench 230 and squats 345 and carried a GPA of better
Than 3.0 was that you being humble proceed with your reading sir uh consensus All State all right here we go third best player in the region overall by super prep and sixth rated I don’t really know what super prep is but we’re GNA we’re going to roll with it uh sixth rated defensive
Back in the country so that sounds like a four-star to me buddy what the how that is the dumbest i’ ever heard six rated defensive back in the entire country only 32 five stars per year on 247 and I I would I know what 247 is it
Wasn’t around when I was around but I was a five star we got all the magazines to prove it so you and your polka dot jacket can get out of here your boy last 2023 top quarterback recruits there were two five stars nice this year there were I was
One of them oh okay you if if I mean I I believe you I’m not going to it doesn’t matter it matter like aough 24 hours he’s three star three star Trey I just feel disrespected that you would you would be confused if I was a
Five star not like of course I was I am not seeing a lot of evidence that the sixth ranked defensive back would be a five star okay yeah see based on based on how angry you are real Four Star Energy okay cool all right I’ll be a four- star guys
I’m a four star amongst how many stars did you guys have we didn’t try okay there we go very good very good there we go we’re back to we’re back to his crutch all right we’re crutch it’s not a crutch you you you as as it is in this
Image you two are the crutches that I stand on a bunch of mediocres just like your shirt says be vanilla you two vanillas nothing special about you vanillas get some some cookie dough in there something some chocolate flavor borings all right well I’m glad I’m glad
We dug into the so Big W is here good thank goodness bye beat it polka dots than you Kevin you’re welcome Kevin all right off of that uh interesting gang up you two nerds I got my boy here curiosity big walls it was disrespectful like it’s I it’s I just would assume I guess maybe I don’t follow recruiting like you guys I didn’t realize it was as rare as it was but I
Do remember being quite excited when I was like a junior in high school like the magazines I saved all the magazines and my dad has it in basement that said I was five star I was never the thing that I didn’t like was some of them had
Me I didn’t play Corner in high school I played Safety and so some of them had me I was too small to play corner I mean to play safety so some of them had me at a corner despite the fact that I didn’t play corner but a lot of them had me as
A five star but listed as athlete and I was like that’s so just so the listeners know I was backstage listening to this entire conversation and I genuinely was curious I was like damn I wonder if if Dominique was a fstar not because you weren’t an excellent athlete Dominique I was
Questioning whether Marilyn was getting festar recruits at the time so it was more of a Maryland thing for me than Dominique and his greatness yeah they they were not they were not very good but they had some really good recruiters that we won the the um ACC that year so
We were we had some Talent uh EJ Henderson was on that team pretty good guys we got some five stars but anyway Charlie be vanilla baby okay has on his shirt by the way that says b vanilla from our beloved ice cream ice creamer the greatest ice
Cream my only fan our Virginia Beach ice cream maker who’s a fan of the show so shout out to you again Sunday Scoops um all right so we’re gonna talk some NBA season is starting to heat up we had a really interesting December and we’re gonna start with a story that sort of
Heated up five days ago when there was a report that Durant was a tiny bit frustrated with his situation in Phoenix and Phoenix knows that he’s a little bit frustrated it calmed down a little bit their big three of KD Bradley Beal and Deon Booker got their first win together
Of the season um over the weekend which is crazy because now we are in January um but it’s still lingering that Durant might not be completely happy with the situation he created do you feel that his frustration in Phoenix is Justified hell no how could it be like this is literally KD
Once again getting exactly what he wanted and then crying about it later uh it’s just what it is um again Golden State he went there of his own valtion free agency won two championships in the third year he was miserable he moped around the entire season they almost won
The championship anyway but for um a couple of catastrophic injuries to him and Klay Thompson again KD orchestrated that got exactly what he wanted and started crying about it Brooklyn free agency teamed up with Kyrie made them even throw DeAndre Jordan in there for no damn reason whatsoever he got exactly
What he wanted then started crying about it now he’s forced his way to Phoenix like this was your idea this wasn’t uh you know a couple of um past trades of superstars come to mind um Paul George had been angling to go to La forever while he was in Indiana they shipped his
To the Prairie right um and he eventually got his made his way to LA but like he got shipped to the Prairie okay then remember kawh Leonard he was angling like yo guys like I’m really trying to do this La thing I’m tired of the river walk I’m tired of barbecue um
Get me back to Southern California they shipped his to Canada um and it should be noted frozen tundra I’ll never forget kawh Leonard’s introductory news conference with the Clippers um where this is the first time he’s talking to Media as a Clipper and he’s getting asked all these questions about being in
LA and he said well this is the first time I’ve actually gotten a chance to choose my destination in my workplace I obviously got drafted by San Antonio and then I got traded to Canada he didn’t say to the Raptors or to Toronto he said then I got traded to Canada
Right so this is not what happened to KD KD got traded to a team that everybody understood he wanted to be there did he not have the basketball Acumen to realize what the situation in Phoenix was I don’t think that’s the case and so like this idea that he’s quote unquote
Frustrated like bro this is what you wanted so I I I um am not surprised that big walls came down on that side and I know where Charlie stands cuz Charli is a Perpetual Kevin Durant hater and I I I can’t you are you hate him you hate on
Him all the time you undercut him and you try to act like I’m crazy for trying to defend him but I no no no no no that’s gaslighting no go ahead please say your peace no I mean I agree with everything that was said he even chose
How his Market was going to play out when he got traded from Brooklyn to Phoenix he basically told ownership let’s just do this quiet we’ll do it under the table this is the only place I’m going to go he chose the deal and I think he’s partially upset because they
Had to trade good players and all the assets to get him and he still got Bradley be on a discount he still got Chris Paul and DeAndre and out of there because he didn’t like that situation and so like this is beyond everything what he’s choosing and the thing is he
Has to make this work we’re talking about you call me a hater because I expect Kevin Durant no okay so you said perform like one of the best players of all time he is one of the best play okay you said your part yeah but I I will say
This as as Kevin Durant has said himself y’all know who I am so of course they’re going to have to empty the the um the the chest in order to get him there and yeah the Ross is going to be thin pulling out the bill deal was impressive
That’s fine I get it I cannot argue against anything that you guys are saying about him choosing a situations perpetually being disappointed and that’s fine but I can say that saying that he’s frustrated it’s not in your control whether you’re frustrated or not maybe it’s in your control whether you put it
Out or not my point is I can understand I can understand why Kevin Durant and Russell Wilson’s probably a bad comp but I think about him in this similar way and that Russell Wilson felt like he was uh on this trajectory to take over the league after uh pton Manning and Aaron
Rod and then went out but then momes and Herbert and Allen showed up and Lamar Jackson showed up and then the Russell Wilson era never happened and that’s not fair for Kevin Durant because obviously he’s much better than that but I think about Kevin Durant as physically one of
The best basketball players ever to pick up a basketball and it’s an outrageous thing that I’ve said on this show before but I think makes sense is he’s the only person to have a amazing outstanding unbelievable alltime great career and also have a disappointing career in some ways with alltime teammates at every
Stop yeah and so like I get why he see this is where I call him a hater I’m right now you we just spent we spent we spent minutes listening hold on I didn’t need that I don’t need that that seasoning not while I’m trying to build
A case I didn’t say it wasn’t a fact but I Ain need that seasoning that’s all I’m saying and when he was in Golden State he was clearly the the best player on that situation in those two championships at that time you can argue all the all you want that Steph oh
Gravity everything Steph did they needed a bucket who they were in the play for Kevin durett Kevin durett at different points of his career career has been a rim productor while also being the primary offensive folm on offenses there are not very many people in the league
That you can say have done that in the history of league so my point is that I can understand when you are this special a player and you have you don’t even have to look back on your career you have the experience that he’s had in his career I can understand just being
Generally frustrated with where things stand in your career and at this moment is it right no but lots of us make lots of decisions it’s like saying you chose to work where you where you work now but that don’t mean you’re not allowed to be frustrated when stuff gets a little
Uncomfortable so it’s fine for him to be frustrated that’s the thing that confuses me is why everybody gota be mad at him for being frustrated okay he made a bad choice a series of bad choices that didn’t work out but he still could be frustrated because he’s great but the
Problem for me with KD is that like he’s just not a leader of men um as far as talented as he is KD is a guy who’s going to show up do his job and basically live in a silo outside of that and so yeah it’s nice that he you know
Does these nice handles and fadeaways and all of that but the sort of intangible stuff the glue stuff the idea that you know I don’t know a guy that you just mentioned Dominique Steph Curry can win a championship in 2022 it’s because he’s a fantastic leader um he
Allows that team to function in such a way that Steph Curry one of the best players of all time is eess effectively he is um he’s basically like yo I’m gonna let this offense run through other people I’m the ball has energy um I’m gonna like basically sublimate my ego at
Every single turn um and the team is going to function in a way that’s better because it’s galvanized around me like look at Steph Curry be the most selfless Tim Duncan s Superstar and the team is allowed to function as this more egalitarian everybody feels involved and
They win the some of their parts are greater than the whole right they were not more talented than Boston in that series they were just a better unit a more together group because their leader is Steph Curry right provide that for you and so when it fall he’s got this LZ
Fair I don’t know why it’s falling apart around me and it’s I’m just powerless to stop it y i just and then the same happen Phoenix and we’re supposed to be like no no KD is nothing to do it KD things just fall apart worst luck ever Dominique that’s
Fair all right Charlie you something to say well I was going to say and this is I’m not ganging up on you I’m agreeing with because scared he left Golden State he chose Kyrie Irving that was a terrible decision it was an unstable decision and it led to the demise of
That situation when he went to Phoenix choosing Bradley Beal who is an very skilled but older shooting guard who’s been incredibly injury prone that is a bad decision and what we’ve seen by the term frustration sure if you want to Psycho analyze and be like he is right
To be frustrated because things aren’t going as well as he thought they were going to go of course in that context he can be frustrated but when we hear Kevin Durant being frustrated yeah you think he wants out of this situation already he wants change already and he has
Picked these situations back to back to back that he’s been frustrated each and every time he’s frustrated in Golden State even though they’re the best team of all time he was frustrated in Brooklyn with the other two stars he picked and if he’s frustrated now we’re
Talking about one of the best players of all time where he falls on that list like it is blow up another situation I genuinely think it’s beneath him and he needs to win on his own because he left and Steph won well he’s proven that it’s not he’s proven that it’s not beneath
Him and this is a it should be this is an argu well it’s not he’s done it a number of time so it’s not beneath him um you can argue that it should be this is an argument that I can’t win so when I can’t win an argument I change the
Context of it which is what I’ve done so yes I understand that his that these the outcomes at these um stops can be attributed in some part to him but I think that what we’re talking about in Steph Curry is a weird happen stance alchemy that in involves his personality involves his
Ability involves the players that happen to be there the coaches that happen to be there that’s what happens sometimes in history with like teams turn out to be that way J and you could say the same thing about Jordan and the situation that happened with him it’s not to say
That he’s any less great you could say LeBron is one of the few guys that we could point to and said he got of made these situations everywhere he went so I think that putting this on Kevin Durant is fine but as long as we put it on him and also
Understanding what he brings to the table that’s all I’m saying so it’s fine blame Kevin Durant for blowing up all these situations or not being a leader of men as Wy said I’m sorry I can’t be S feet tall and agile as a 6’2 guy while
Shoot just a little bit less than stephh Curry and defend the rim and also be your friend I’m sorry my bad somebody else to be people’s friends somebody else out I goty I got a question for you because I I I can’t believe I I accidentally just opened Pandora’s box
Of Steph first Durant again and I listeners Dominique Rosy I we got a lot of NBA topics to get to so but no I do want to ask because there’s something that I’ve thought for like the past like year and a half I think it’s started in
That Brooklyn series when Tatum sort of gave it to Durant do you think even though the numbers are still insane like the efficiency still saying the numbers look really flat to where he was at his prime do you feel like he’s less of an impactful player than he was of course
He is um in the half court he’s just way less likely to go downhill now um it’s just not something that’s within him to like just get straight all the way to the cup the way that he used to but again like LeBron can’t just you know isolate against the guy at the
Three-point line two dribbles and dunk on somebody’s head like he used to do in 2010 like we get it like these guys games evolve like as good as LeBron looks we know he’s not the 2012 version of himself anymore was a more dominant overwhelming version of LeBron KD is a
Less dominant less overwhelming version of himself um in many ways on offense that’s not to say that in a playoff series you know um with the right coach and the right teammates like he can’t be extremely impactful and and be The Driver of some major winning it’s not to
Say any of that and and also just to get back to the step just to be clear right like I’m somebody who praises step’s leadership qualities but some people might argue like yo because he’s not agitating to deal with Draymond because he feels very loyal to Clay golden state
Is in the situation that they’re in right now people might say a less patient Superstar would have been on a to fix this team in a way that would have been more expedient than what’s happening and playing out right now at the end of step’s PR so there pros and
Cons to every um approach this is something that we often have to remind ourselves and I have to remind myself all this always too is like it’s the old saying about silver clouds and or gray clouds and Silver Linings like every good comes with some bad and they
Wouldn’t had the success they had if Steph wasn’t the type of person that he was and they would be set up better for the future if Steph was a different person the argument for the way that Kevin Durant is interpersonally is the argument that you guys are making is
That there is no real benefit for the KD personality archetype there’s only benefit real benefit I’m just saying the the ecosystem has to be so perfect around it that I’m just like my Lord again step’s ecosystem was was a shambles so glad that he fixed it it’s
Not it’s not the one to one comparison though it’s just about this is just about KD cuz now he’s playing thing I will say again because KD was so instrumental in all of the things that happened again for him to sit there and say I’m just gonna sit and watch this
Thing burn down is absolutely criminal in my mind like the idea that you couldn’t be bothered to lift a finger or say a word about how this thing that everybody understood had this great potential is completely crumbling and Katie’s response is I’m just here to put hoop that’s absurd to
Me and I think it’s and I think it’s informed some of the results that KD has you know been able to get since he’s left Golden State that’s all I’m saying that’s fine it’s fair it’s right if he wanted to to be a hands-off type of
Player and and um leave it all to the GM then he could have stayed in OKC or he could have stayed in Golden State OKC is the only one I defend because nobody should be forced to live in the prairie for that long it’s not even a b not not
A 100 millionaire come on now that’s ridiculous and he didn’t want to play with Russ and I get that at that point um but the other thing is like I actually I don’t know what situation he’s going to want like he’s under contract for a while he’s he’s not gonna
Play with a better player than Devin Booker like it’s hard to imagine he’s gonna find his basketball Nirvana again period Well he said he was frustrated he didn’t say he Demands a trade or any for a trade I’m sure when guys get and they start winning things are going to be
Fine again but it’s just crazy to hear that and again if you’re I don’t know Devin Booker you gotta be thinking to yourself like is this dude invested in what we’re doing in here he’s already moping about what the situation is and frustrated like yo bro like this is a long-term
Project I thought it was I thought we was here to win a championship build something special like Devon Booker is like his career his career and his legacy like he’s one of those guys too and it’s G to be impacted by um how this team performs all right Charlie what’s next
All let’s talk let’s talk some embiid embiid uh he averaged 402 and five on 60 4290 shooting in December and look I’m gonna be honest like I have crushed embiid in the playoffs last year for his performance i’ I crushed him for flopping I thought that yic was the best
Player in the league before the title run and I we we’ve talked off air and on air that I thought it was gonna be hard for him to win another MVP this season which is a long time down the road because of how he performed in the playoffs but the larger question that
I’m actually interested in this seems to be the best basketball player he’s played in his life do you think he is the best player in the league at this point and do you think he has reached a point where it will translate into playoff success no he’s not the best
Basketball player in the league that’s still the man in Denver come on now um the degenerate horse racing fanatic Nica y joic um I I think he’s still obviously the best player uh the thing that should be noted about embiid’s success this year is that I think Nick nurse deserves
A lot of credit for coaching it up um he’s putting this guy in different spots on the floor one of the main embiid’s bugaboos his whole career has been turnovers how he deals with double teams just he’s never been a great passer Nick nurse has changed his sight lines he’s
Moved them up on the floor he’s like built a better ecosystem for MB to thrive in and so like these are genuine real changes that have happened and I think can carry over to the playoffs now now I think the problem for embiid is that he’s never played like an MVP in
The playoffs in his entire life and so the idea that he’s going to go from what he did last year which was obviously wasn’t terrible but he was not of an MVP quality to go from that to MVP quality I’m highly dubious and skeptical I I
Won’t say that it’s impossible but I but I think the two things are true I think one he hasn’t been an MVP in the playoffs but this year’s improvements are real and it’s not just Improvement in play he’s being set up better that’s the question is Improvement in play for
MB doesn’t matter to me at this point the man won an MVP and has been one of the best players in the league for his entire um well active career when he’s not injured but the injured question is the question because I don’t think that
Is some and I guess there could be some clutch team that we’re talking about but it doesn’t seem like that when we when we see him in the playoffs it seems like fatigue and injuries and say conditioning conditioning and injuries yeah like fatigue conditioning and injuries and obviously the way the style
Of play that that well I guess that’s not true I was going to say that changing the sight lines and changing their style is not going to make him less hurt or get him better condition but I guess it could tax his body less but more importantly to me is there
Something about the way that they’ve changed this offense and you already answered it kind of you said that it can carry over to the playoffs that is going to lead to some more playoff success because I don’t see I know uh Charlie reminded me that uh Harden really
Carried them for a couple of games two games and was injured in the Boston series yeah but I don’t remember embiid as like not showing up in the playoffs them not getting it done in the playoffs is different than him not showing up him being injured and him being tired is
Different than him not showing up well no he’s also been less effective in the postseason I know his numbers have have generally been fine he’s put fine scoring and rebounding numbers but he’s someone who also really benefits from going to the free throw line yes and he
Has not had the same ease of ease of use in the postseason there I don’t want to call him Center James Harden but there’s been a tiny bit of so he gets his free throws Charlie into he’s a hybrid though of Shaq and James Harden in the sense
He’s good at the foul grifting but he also gets fouled because he’s physically dominating people right like he draws both type of fouls it’s just that in the postseason the foul Griffon stuff gets cut down a lot right and you genuinely have to beat people beat the man in
Front of you and I don’t think that he’s going to be incapable of that I just don’t think the Sixers are actually that much better than they were last year so I don’t believe that they’re gonna get out of the second round so the Maxi Evolution I guess versus what they were
Doing with Harden in the past and sharing time with maxi that’s not enough for you to feel better about this team and the PO not this season I don’t believe so um and and you know they they go to the offseason and you know I don’t want to be that person that’s looking
Three years in the future but like they’re going to go into the offseason they’re going to have money to improve the roster and they can sure this thing up and I think Maxi has even more steps to improve you know even after he gets paid and so like I think they’re they’re
They’re trending in a beautiful Direction I just don’t think they have it they quite have the goods talent-wise right now to to compete with the top teams in my opinion and you know whatever like Joel andb might turn might turn into a Super no and do what he’s
Doing doing now in the playoffs the way you know joic does every single year right like maybe maybe he’ll do that but until I see it like obviously I think joic is still the best player I think he’s he’s kind of on cruise control right now um
And I think come playoff time they’re going to blow the doors off of people again I I love the yic cruise control numbers by the way it’s just like when he’s just chilling it’s like 2012 and n and they’re winning by a dozen points in those games he expends as as little
Dominant effort as possible to get ready for the postseason um last thing I want to ask you guys about was the Pistons debacle you know the Pistons just ended their 28 game losing streak but what’s interesting is like this to me is not the process Sixers this is a team and a
Roster that has Kate Cunningham who a first overall pick it has a ton of other high lottery picks guys we even still like like assar Thompson there’s Jaden Ivy there’s durren Etc ET you got on the roster they shouldn’t be this bad and they just just paid Monty Williams $78
Million um bunch of questions here I mean one fox I I want I would love some psycho analysis of what’s going on with that team after losing that much but also like w does this change how you view Kade Cunningham and Monty Williams like period full stop because wins are a
Coaching Superstar stat in the NBA no uh I’m still a cade believer I’m still holding on to my Cade stats I want to get to Monty Williams first because I’ve said this before but it Bears mentioning again they had to beg this guy to take
The job he put it out there he said I’m taking the year off or like when I come back I want a veteran group readymade playoff contention type of team that’s what he wanted to do and then the owner was like he got it in his head he needed
Monty Wills to to coach and he was like yo we’ll give you yo we’re gonna give you this much to coach he’s like nah I’m still good no but we’re gonna give you this much to coach he’s like ah come on man and then he was like no no no you’re
G to get this much to coach and he was like bro for the sake of generations of my family I just cannot say no to this freaking um job and just think about it guys listeners just think about it you’re hiring a guy for a job he comes to the
Interview and you have to convince him that he should be taking the job okay he’s not coming and saying oh yeah when I get in here this is what I’m gonna do with Cade this is what we gonna do with Killian Hayes watch with Jaylen durren
But no he’s just like guys like this not the type of job I want then they Bowl him over and literally make him the highest paid coach in the history of NBA so no I’m not I don’t begrudge Monty Williams for how things are turning out
On that end and as far as Kade is concerned I think this roster has something to do with the um process Sixers in the sense that it doesn’t make any sense um it’s just this idea that we just draft players based on quote unquote talent and we don’t give a damn
About fit uh Killian Hayes nice Talent whatever I I think he’s kind of a bust but whatever uh um jayen ivy again super talented guy these dudes can’t shoot they can’t put the ball in the ocean from the Titanic same with the Thompson twin then they went and drafted 40 F
Power forwards and centers there’s literally no shooting on this entire roster Kate cting and talented as he is how’s he supposed to figure out how to Be an Effective NBA conductor under those circumstances clog paints awful spacing like it the roster is so in congruent with one
Another that I’m not surprised by the result is what I’m yeah I think the results are so bad that I think that it’s hard to make a accurate evaluation of anyone however it’s hard to say that this don’t take a toll and I and there are there to
Me at least I believe and this is like largely about how I project quarterbacks is I believe that you have to be able to buy them time you buy your Superstars time Time by finding support for them putting them in situations buy them time and I’m not sure that and we talked
About this before there have been very few and we couldn’t think of any really quarterbacks that have been awful at at their first stop like high drafted guys that we put everything in to work off at the first stop they went somewhere else and turned out to be great in part I
Believe go ahead Charlie I was saying we have to go all the way back to Jim plunket to find that Jesus in part in Part I believe that it’s in it’s in part because this is your time when you are developing your like your football brain
Or your sports brain and how you are going to be imprinted how you’re going to take on other challenges and this is also the time when you can add and develop new parts of your game if there’s someone there taking pressure off you allowing you to do those things
Making the things easy for you providing spacing on the floor a coach providing a system that takes the pressure off you in decision making for like we just talked about with embiid finding new ways to make life easier for you so now it’s partially that I’m saying I’m not
Out on the talent but I don’t know that anybody can endure this for a a sustained period of time in the formative part of the career and then turn out to be a superstar to go on and be a functional role player a contributor a three or four on a team if
You rank the players maybe and that’s the scary part to me is a lot of players could be potentially well maybe not all of them but a few of the players like the Thompson twin and and Kade Cunningham like those players could be having the important developmental part
Of their career ruined by the fact that there seems to be no plan and they and they um thought that they could buy a coach’s desire which like you can’t you can buy a coach but you cannot turn them into someone who uh is believes in what you’re doing and committed to what’s
Happening so it’s just a sad overall situation that they have there in Detroit I uh I’m gonna kind of zag a little bit I think lot I think no no no no I think a lot less of Kate Cunningham and I think that part of it like the
Situation is not great but we were promised something different with Kade Cunningham we were Pro promised someone who could shoot the basketball we were promised someone who was like a maestro in the pick and roll partially because if you went under he could knock down the shot and that has certainly not been
The case with him as an NBA basketball player like he might just be a 30% shooter who’s not an elite athlete and is just like a very solid lead guard and that’s disappointing with the hype and what we thought he was going to be and part of me thinks that like yes the
Roster really bad they weren’t going to be a good team but if you have someone who’s a really transformative player they won’t lose 28 games in a row we’ve seen that over and over again in the course of NBA history which is that these guys start to affect winning by
Their third year their fourth year whenever and kad’s in his third season and hasn’t affected winning whatsoever nor has he improved as a jump shooter I mean I I’ve I have a push back on that but I want to hear what was say yeah I
Mean I I I agree to a certain extent right I don’t think I don’t think he’s been of the jaah or Luca level early on in his development um I will say he missed a ton of time last year so it’s not as if he’s had this incredible amount of reps
And then you add on to the fact that the context is just disgustingly terrible right um and so and I think as of recently like you know he dropped 41 the other day like he’s looking better and better even as the losses pile up and so
Me look I I don’t think he’s gonna be quite as good as Luca donic which yeah I know Sports take of the year um but I I do think he still got potential to be an All-Star level perennial All-Star level player if not not you know perennial top
Five MVP level guy yeah so I think my push back on you Charlie is that the being a number one like overall is different between being an alltime great and so I think that’s like the Luca conversation I think that if you are in that atmosphere then maybe there is no
Situation enough for us not to be able to see that you are good but you can still build around one of those guys who’s just a tick below that and totally and my point is I think that sometimes we say winning as a superstar stat in the NBA and I think you’re probably
Right but name the time when the situation was just abysmal like I guess that’s the problem I’m having racking my brain for a situation that there feels like there are little to no other useful assets where the guy came in and it’s not to say that the guys weren’t good
But it’s possible that the situation ruin the guy and I think we all believe that can happen why it’s it just can’t happen this bad I guess it’s your point you can’t lose 28 in a row if you’re if you’re any kind of good one time you
Just going you going to Fumble into a win sooner or later I’m not saying like this is he should be on a 60 win team I you start you start creeping toward medocity over that time I feel it but also I think what gets underrated here
Too is the overall quality of the league generally speaking I just think it’s a way more talented tougher League than it was in 2012 when it when it was when like because I was saying the other day Michael Carter Williams LED one of those process teams in points per game the one
Year average like 17 or something he would not play on the Pistons that dude that averaged those points wouldn’t play on this team like he wouldn’t be getting significant minutes on this team okay and he led a team in scoring one year right and so I think the
Overall Talent of the league is so high that we need to take that into account when these guys are losing night after night like there are there are no nights off I know that sounds sounds hyperbolic at times I just think like it’s just tougher to come by a win in a regular
Season these days and again just so people understand like Kade Cunningham is not Shaquille O’Neal right he got drafted by the magic the team with the first overall pick they changed overnight just because they drafted chck Shaq is one of the 10 probably best players we ever seen like he’s not that
Okay um but I think he could he’s going to be a very high quality NBA player for time to come it’s just the situation has to be right and again I think there’s Talent on this team I think um Jaylen Duren is is talented I think jayen Ivy
Is talented assar Thompson is T talented these guys have they have talent but I just think it just doesn’t fit in a way that makes any sense and another thing that I would say just to end this off is that team like when fan bases get thirsty for these rebuilds man you go
Look up and down this roster and the draft pedigree of the guys on this team it’s freaking ugly no better way than the in the Dominique foxer show with a anti- tanking take I hate tanking Charlie has come around to hate tling too I’m glad Wy feels the same way don’t
Be a professional loser thank you for listening to or watching the Domini fox show this has been fun thank you Charlie thank you Wy thank you to all our great producers Brian Kevin uh Megan saraphina and T we out this is the Dominique Foxworth Show
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41 Comments
Shoulda stayed with GS haven’t been the same since he left
Lastly I swear Dom Fox is hilarious in a good way!! Seriously. Go D fox
Love the KD conversation.
For y'all that are saying he should've stayed with the Warriors, the Warriors was a toxic situation for him because of Draymond. You don't stay in a toxic relationship with your girl, do you? So why would he not explore other options?
KD has all the tools on the suns to win a championship and he's still not happy. It's honestly astonishing how many divas are in the NBA these days.
Durant is by far the most pathetic athlete I’ve ever seen and is by far the most overrated player in NBA history. When the going gets tough he switches teams and we all know this pencil arm loser can’t win anything without a super team hence why he’s ringless without the aid of a 73 win warriors team that would’ve won those rings without him.
He should have never left Golden State.
He let all the social media haters get to him and screwed himself.
KD never said he was frustrated he already spoke on this and here goes the media creating fake story lines for views lol.
Also the original thing he said had nothing to do with him being frustrated lol
He frustrated everywhere he go
Is Tom Brady going to unretire and throw for 5,000 yards and 45 touchdowns with Devante and raiders with Harbaugh as the coach
Stop this negativity he already said it was not true
The problem with KD is … he played with GOLDEDN STATE. .. he not gonna find a better organization than that ❤
The emotionally brittle Kevin Durant, a boy stuck in a 7 foot mans Body is having emotional challenges in Phoenix surprise surprise. Been a train wreck since he left Golden State.
Bums are still talking about KD 😂 meanwhile KD smiling with his teammates but go ahead and show your behinds espn 🐸 ☕️
When Bron complains about his teams, y’all don’t say 💩
Phoenix needs a better head coach
❤dude on the left blamed kd for the Bradley beal trade 😅😅
Kd gets to the rim alot this season. Phx gets to the line alot. Dude on the right is lying smh
Suns did Monty dirty. Him and CP3 helped the 2020/21 team to the finals after years of mediocrity. Then the new owner trades for KD and they lose key players like Bridges and Johnson, fires Monty and waives CP3.
Give me Bob McAdoo seven days a week. KD is a regular Hall of Famer.
Can’t even comment anymore because childish kids. Don’t like what I say about the snake
Nice clickbait. Maybe watch some Suns basketball every now and then. Just a tip.
I think A LOT of the KD conversation was fair but placated to hater side. While yes KD made the decision to leave the warriors, all the issues that happened in Brooklyn were not the result of poor leadership. The unfair vaccine mandate (allowed un-vaccinated players from other teams play but not Kyrie), Kyrie anti-semitism debacle, and the way the ownership handled it. Even if you say Kyrie was problematic already which is also unfair, all of that was unforeseen. Not to mention Harden asking out and injuries. It was honestly a lot of bad luck
Him and Harden seem to have the same problems no matter where they play. Which means they aren't organization problems – their player problems i.e Durant and Harden problems.
He's frustrated because they got Bradley Beal who stays injured and hasn't played.
KD should go back to GS. He is NOT the leader big 3 guy. He is best being a part of the big 3 guy. Comeback for another run-the ego should be the second to the trophy by so many failures now
KD was never “frustrated” that report was shut down weeks ago what are these clowns on about..
GSW! LETS GO!!
Trash account
If Steph is such a great leader why can’t he get draymond in check???
KD goes to teams to play with his "boys" – he doesn't really look at the basketball situation.
Golden State – Draymond = BEEF
Brooklyn – Kyrie/Harden = BEEF
Phoenix – BOOK/BEAL = soon to be beef
Who lets these guys on ESPN terrible takes watch some basketball before getting on a show and talking they haven't probably watched one Suns game all year lmao
Espn is supporting the woj story, but Shams and KD himself says otherwise. These guys thinking KD already wants out is insane. Yes, KD is frustrated with their record and injuries, but NOT frustrated with what team he plays for.
more click bait.
Bro yall talk about Phoenix like he played a full season there already😂😂 yall are nasty!!!!
No
Are you guys afraid to say KD has destroyed a championship contender team, the dude is selfish and envious
The Suns won 4 in a row, why is this still a topic lol
Blink-182? Good Charlotte! You guys sure know how to make a white elder millennial feel seen 🤘
Love the show
I really hate when people just guess on someone’s life and lie about their lives, plus you’ve never seen curry a leader where is multiple clips our a player of his saying he is the ultimate leader? Y’all just guess so much on perspective’s like it’s sad honestly that’s like me saying the dude on the right looks like a lame and obviously hating on others because his life isn’t good enough but I don’t know him I’m just going of when I see him and how he is 😂that’s not cool at all
KD was the best in the finals.
Curry was always the best player during that time together.
Curry without KD, GSW was still the best off in the league, and KD without him, was below average.