[Grange] According to multiple sources, the Warriors are loathe to trade Kuminga, who is seen as a potential star who can help them win now and in the future
[Grange] According to multiple sources, the Warriors are loathe to trade Kuminga, who is seen as a potential star who can help them win now and in the future
> According to league sources, the Kings are not going to trade talented second-year forward Keegan Murray and the Kings – already on the hook for full max deals for Domantis Sabonis and De’Aaron Fox – aren’t interested in paying Siakam a full max contract which means any chances of retaining the pending free agent are nil.
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> Because roughly as the Raptors were on their team bus heading west for the 90-minute drive to San Francisco late Friday night, news filtered out that Warriors guard Chris Paul had broken his hand and will require surgery.
> And then shortly after the Raptors finished practice on the Chase Center floor Saturday, more news: Golden State big man Draymond Green was being reinstated after serving a 12-game suspension for hitting Suns centre Josef Nurkic in the face, the latest in a long string of disciplinary infractions incurred by Green in recent years.
> This is on top of a report on rising third-year forward Jonathan Kuminga had “lost faith” in Warriors head coach Steve Kerr after Kuminga didn’t play the final 18 minutes in a loss to the Denver Nuggets on Thursday.
> Would the combination of the Warriors sub-.500 record, Paul’s long-term injury, Green’s return – and the subsequent rotations pressures that would create – along with Kuminga’s apparent frustration be the catalyst for a deal?
> And since the Warriors have been linked to Siakam since, oh, the summer of 2021, Toronto’s apparent interest in finding more age-appropriate playmates for franchise cornerstone Scottie Barnes, would the Raptors emerge as their trade partner?
> Well, the dots can be made to connect.
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> Except the dots don’t always connect that way, even though the Raptors – like several other teams as the trade deadline rounds into view – will be paying close attention to determine if all the recent tumult with the Warriors will move up their timeline.
> Still, according to multiple sources, the Warriors are loathe to trade Kuminga, who is seen as a potential star who can help them win now and in the future, the rare piece on the roster who can help Golden State both support Steph Curry in the present and transition to a successful post-Curry future, should it ever come.
> And a not insignificant detail is that Kuminga is said to have a very close relationship with Warriors owner Joe Lacob who has historically been reluctant to part with any of the young talent that represents the Warriors’ so-called ‘two-timelines’ strategy of meshing a group of young draftees with their established championship core.
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> And while from a distance the Warriors might check a lot of boxes – a championship pedigree and a chance to play with Steph Curry, for starters – the detail is in the fine print. As one league source pointed out, the Warriors as we’ve come to know them over the past decade aren’t likely to be the Warriors of the next half decade. The chief architect of Golden State’s dynasty, Bob Myers, jumped ship this past summer rather than face the hard choices that might be coming – moving on from under-achieving veteran Klay Thompson or perhaps even having to make a call on suddenly embattled head coach Steve Kerr and whatever other decisions that might be required as proud dynasty fades with age.
> Neither team is in a position to rule out any possibility.
> The Raptors would undoubtedly consider Kuminga a premium return if there was a deal to be had centred around Siakam.
> But if Kuminga was not on the table, it would be a mistake to assume the Raptors would be in a rush to take on the remaining three years and $82 million that Andrew Wiggins has on his contract, given the positional and contractual overlap with newly acquired RJ Barrett. Paying nearly $50 million a season to a pair of GTA small forwards is probably not prudent cap management.
> But Golden State has some other interesting young pieces and contracts that could be pulled together in a deal.
> “They can stack some pieces,” acknowledged one source.
Bixby33
Has anyone told Kerr
jjkiller26
Yea…definitely helping them “win now”
MDS_1996
I think Kuminga has alot of upside, but if he ends up being GSWs reason to not get a Siakam trade done, then they just aren’t serious enough about righting their ship and getting Steph another ring.
Icy-Lime-9760
If Raptors are gonna take on an albatross contract in Wiggins or CP3, no way they should give them a 2 time all star and 2 time all NBA without getting Kuminga and Moody.
ok_concept8
Wut
VinnyTheChin3
Keep siakam sign him up. Tell these teams to go suck deez nuts. Ante up or F off.
Next_Sherbert_17
Well no worries, just wait till we let Siakam go for nothing and sign him in free agency
pskill43
Playing Scottie IQ RJ Kuminga Poetle sounds like a terrible idea.
agent0069sayless
if this is the case, seems like the hawks, kings, and warriors are out
JediRaptor2018
Haha the Warriors are trying to pull a Kings by pulling their player off the table just in time for our match. Trying to play mind games with us. You want a chance at a ring, you give up Kuminga for Pascal.
n3moh0es
i figured he’s been good for them and he’s fucking 21 why would they give up on him? he isn’t precious. riley dumped him ASAP 💀
YogurtResponsible785
Smoke screen
Candid-Account3666
Playing hard to get to drive a better deal lol
DearReply
Yeah, the Raps loathed trading OG too. There is no free lunch, sadly. You want to get a high impact player, it’s gonna hurt.
XenaRen
Sure, give us Moody, Pod and an unprotected pick.
W-MK29
Yep well looks like Joe Pascal for you pussies then
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boohoo, they loathe to trade a guy they play 20 minutes a game.
EDIT: Just realizing I somehow put the wrong link in the OP. Correct link to article is here: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/article/trading-siakam-to-warriors-makes-some-sense-but-it-may-not-be-a-perfect-fit/
New Grange article. Notable parts:
> According to league sources, the Kings are not going to trade talented second-year forward Keegan Murray and the Kings – already on the hook for full max deals for Domantis Sabonis and De’Aaron Fox – aren’t interested in paying Siakam a full max contract which means any chances of retaining the pending free agent are nil.
______________
> Because roughly as the Raptors were on their team bus heading west for the 90-minute drive to San Francisco late Friday night, news filtered out that Warriors guard Chris Paul had broken his hand and will require surgery.
> And then shortly after the Raptors finished practice on the Chase Center floor Saturday, more news: Golden State big man Draymond Green was being reinstated after serving a 12-game suspension for hitting Suns centre Josef Nurkic in the face, the latest in a long string of disciplinary infractions incurred by Green in recent years.
> This is on top of a report on rising third-year forward Jonathan Kuminga had “lost faith” in Warriors head coach Steve Kerr after Kuminga didn’t play the final 18 minutes in a loss to the Denver Nuggets on Thursday.
> Would the combination of the Warriors sub-.500 record, Paul’s long-term injury, Green’s return – and the subsequent rotations pressures that would create – along with Kuminga’s apparent frustration be the catalyst for a deal?
> And since the Warriors have been linked to Siakam since, oh, the summer of 2021, Toronto’s apparent interest in finding more age-appropriate playmates for franchise cornerstone Scottie Barnes, would the Raptors emerge as their trade partner?
> Well, the dots can be made to connect.
______________
> Except the dots don’t always connect that way, even though the Raptors – like several other teams as the trade deadline rounds into view – will be paying close attention to determine if all the recent tumult with the Warriors will move up their timeline.
> Still, according to multiple sources, the Warriors are loathe to trade Kuminga, who is seen as a potential star who can help them win now and in the future, the rare piece on the roster who can help Golden State both support Steph Curry in the present and transition to a successful post-Curry future, should it ever come.
> And a not insignificant detail is that Kuminga is said to have a very close relationship with Warriors owner Joe Lacob who has historically been reluctant to part with any of the young talent that represents the Warriors’ so-called ‘two-timelines’ strategy of meshing a group of young draftees with their established championship core.
______________
> And while from a distance the Warriors might check a lot of boxes – a championship pedigree and a chance to play with Steph Curry, for starters – the detail is in the fine print. As one league source pointed out, the Warriors as we’ve come to know them over the past decade aren’t likely to be the Warriors of the next half decade. The chief architect of Golden State’s dynasty, Bob Myers, jumped ship this past summer rather than face the hard choices that might be coming – moving on from under-achieving veteran Klay Thompson or perhaps even having to make a call on suddenly embattled head coach Steve Kerr and whatever other decisions that might be required as proud dynasty fades with age.
> Neither team is in a position to rule out any possibility.
> The Raptors would undoubtedly consider Kuminga a premium return if there was a deal to be had centred around Siakam.
> But if Kuminga was not on the table, it would be a mistake to assume the Raptors would be in a rush to take on the remaining three years and $82 million that Andrew Wiggins has on his contract, given the positional and contractual overlap with newly acquired RJ Barrett. Paying nearly $50 million a season to a pair of GTA small forwards is probably not prudent cap management.
> But Golden State has some other interesting young pieces and contracts that could be pulled together in a deal.
> “They can stack some pieces,” acknowledged one source.
Has anyone told Kerr
Yea…definitely helping them “win now”
I think Kuminga has alot of upside, but if he ends up being GSWs reason to not get a Siakam trade done, then they just aren’t serious enough about righting their ship and getting Steph another ring.
If Raptors are gonna take on an albatross contract in Wiggins or CP3, no way they should give them a 2 time all star and 2 time all NBA without getting Kuminga and Moody.
Wut
Keep siakam sign him up. Tell these teams to go suck deez nuts. Ante up or F off.
Well no worries, just wait till we let Siakam go for nothing and sign him in free agency
Playing Scottie IQ RJ Kuminga Poetle sounds like a terrible idea.
if this is the case, seems like the hawks, kings, and warriors are out
Haha the Warriors are trying to pull a Kings by pulling their player off the table just in time for our match. Trying to play mind games with us. You want a chance at a ring, you give up Kuminga for Pascal.
i figured he’s been good for them
and he’s fucking 21 why would they give up on him? he isn’t precious. riley dumped him ASAP 💀
Smoke screen
Playing hard to get to drive a better deal lol
Yeah, the Raps loathed trading OG too. There is no free lunch, sadly. You want to get a high impact player, it’s gonna hurt.
Sure, give us Moody, Pod and an unprotected pick.
Yep well looks like Joe Pascal for you pussies then
Well then fuck him and fuck you too