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Trae Young and the Atlanta Hawks are embarrassing the NBA…



Trae Young and the Atlanta Hawks are embarrassing the NBA…

Because word on the street is it is a fire cell in Atlanta the Atlanta Hawks are looking to make crazy deals make a lot of moves um Omar I just wanted to ask you how do you feel about that are there any players you feel are Untouchable and do you feel Trey young

Is gonna retire a hawk because this is looking nasty this is a crazy that’s a crazy leap I’m not gonna lie saying somebody is touchable is crazy as well um but they the name hey sad touchable don’t don’t um no I the only thing I have to say about this trade

Deadline for real for real my God Pascal seak better be good okay because the way the way that they are treating him right now apparently uh I know this is off Atlanta but like Dallas kicked the tiers uh I can’t remember that’s another team that kicked the tires too but they Sacramento they

All come back with the same report hey it’s just too expensive I’m trying to think what do they want for Pascal allar right there for any allar and I’m G let y’all know too if come trade deadline day there’s an alert that says Atlanta Hawks Pascal cakam I promise

You I will never [ __ ] with NBA basketball ever again cuz he’s too expensive now I can only imagine will he’ll be close to the trade deadline um honestly all him uh sub 500 people can go I hope we can I hope we can um trick somebody into buying the hype under

Jonay Murray I’m mad that he got to Lakers Twitter because the people that exposed him on Lakers Twitter let the rest of the world know oh damn so that was a fluke allar oh Dam so he can’t play defense um I’m think the Warriors will I think the Warriors will well no

They said they they said they was sitting tight n y’all gonna get kaminga back man that’s another one of them guys oh you piss him off I think that’s worse than pass out him can we talk about this cause because they didn’t understand my

Take when I said it when me D and Sage is the playback stream I had the kaminga take about him being out the league and I think the most I swear to God I’ve never seen a comment get this much traction on like our platform in like

Such a short time the top comment on that thing has like aund and something likes damn like says didn’t know y’all talked about Kingo my bad yeah yeah oh we had a had a good little stream I ain’t gonna lie it was a good I just

Thought he like the next uh next OG anobi like who do y’all think kaminga is you know so so this thing says from TSO Kappa Omar implying kaminga Moody wouldn’t be in the league if it wasn’t for the Warriors is pure comedy to me 102 with 17 replies 102 like 17 rep all

Of them this is why he’s stupid at basketball oh [ __ ] now I start asking them questions and I say well what happens if he gets drafted to like the Pistons or something what do y’all think he would be them oh he’d be like Killian Hayes and then my followup is now don’t

We think Killian Hayes shouldn’t be in the league shut the [ __ ] up too much man if you set some kaminga screens and a couple of a couple of Moody some Moody lives with Comm and kaminga screens man you tripping no but I don’t I don’t want to take it too far

From the conversation that dammo posed um yeah no Pascal seak is expensive I don’t I really I don’t know what the price is but it sounds very Atlanta hawkish for us to go seek him um but I’m just hoping that somebody gets fooled about Deonte Murray I’m not gonna lie to

You I feel like their action price for a pascal was probably like a they need a two like those team that you named before where it was the Mavs a a number two option it feels like if he’s that expensive that means I feel like the Mavericks went into that trade and there

Was no way they was walking out of it without giving up Kyrie in that sense or the Kings went to that trade I guess but even the Kings walked in well I don’t think they actually I think everybody knows can’t touch that one name but for a fact the Kings didn’t

Walk out that trade and deont sabonis was like not a name that was like they had to give up sabonis or Malik Monk and everyone like type [ __ ] so makes sense Soul uh Sage I know the Hawks aren’t necessary team but how do y’all feel

About the fire sell in Atlanta sh I kind of like it I ain’t going to lie um look I’m usually for your number one guys Untouchable but at this point I’m not saying let him go I’m saying it went from boy [ __ ] you to Trey for

What like like you a’t gon lie 30% odds you going to have to come with on hell of offer but for what [ __ ] it went for but earlier you Wen picking up that phone call but in general I don’t even want them to necessarily move on from

Trey young I think that’s a lot of NBA hype Beast M leag ass ideology uh but everybody else yeah you can get the [ __ ] I don’t understand um I somehow tricked my own brain to thinking Clint capella isn’t there how much I’m like yo Clint Clint Cabella should be gone i’ I’ve

Literally be like yo is he still there and I’ll see him do something I’m like oh yeah he should get the [ __ ] out of here um did jonay Murray 100% it just didn’t pan out you’re not gonna get the same value that you got um trying to get

Him understand that don’t do any [ __ ] [ __ ] just trade him it’s better than a donut literally um sadique Bay he can go really anybody on the roster I don’t want to waste too much time here anybody on the roster can go you can either go for draft picks you can go for

Players that can uh pair well with Trey young but this is one of them situations where you’re hitting the button and you’re probably gonna lose regardless but you’re in a situation where you’re dangerously mid and that’s never good especially when you have a guy that’s likely going to drag you a bit bit

Further than you typically are so as a result you’re just going to be mid lose mid lose in that cycle it’s never a good thing especially when it’s a player it’s one thing if it’s a coach mild spoiler to my hot take or whatever the day potentially but it’s a player oh yeah

You might want to change that up I just think God with what they can move at this point and what they can get in return for what they can move if they wanted to build around Trey young it would take a lot for them to get back to like Eastern Conference Finals

Contender perennially so I feel like at this point for me man the Trey young era is over it was a good ride it was a good ride let’s blow it up it’s time for a new core man Atlanta needs a new face I can’t wait till we start talking about

Boston and what coward said about Jason Tatum because yeah that’s why I said I I ain’t on that ship now I I literally am like look there’s no such thing as hell no but no I mean but absolute blow up damn it just take a lot it it would just

Take a lot for them to be like perennial contenders at this point he’s just going to be a NBA team and if you’re fine being a NBA team hey let’s keep it pushing I don’t I don’t think it would take a lot I think that they just fell

For the trap in which people said that they felt like would fall for the trap a long time ago and a lot of teams have fallen for this trap uh uh um you know 67 times throughout NBA history you had a fluky run and you did not assess your

Timeline properly so you went for it before your rebuild was properly assessed and in your attempts to go for it you realized you didn’t really have anything to like you didn’t have a real leg to stand on besides Trey young like your leg to stand on was Trey young but

Other than that you didn’t have real legs to stand on Clint capella was old John Collins wasn’t it Kevin herder wasn’t it um damn who DeAndre Hunter wasn’t it like all these people weren’t it but you should have continued to rebuild take that fluky year get some playoff experience for those evaluate

Who you really keep but like sell then but they just did what a lot of teams did and just rushed the process um [ __ ] Loki like the Knicks too like oh [ __ ] we we we made the playoffs all right let’s go spend a billion dollars on J uh Jaylen Brunson let’s go

Trade for OG and noi um they’ll probably do something else this off season as well just to like speed the process up but really y’all had a fluky run to get into the playoffs Randall isn’t that and y’all need to just take a step back and

Rebuild yeah but I feel like for the Hawks like they they’re not even what the Knicks are in terms of being a perennial playoff like a solid playoff team so it’s like I don’t know like all like at a dead end I feel like I don’t

Know but that’s to and I guess we’re only talking about today that’s today though cuz yesterday the the roles were reversed and it’s not even like what are the Knicks right now what seed are the Knicks well I’m not even saying the Knicks are like on some trajectory to

Win a champion I ship but I’m just saying if if the idea for keeping Trey young is hey let’s just be um a decent playoff team for x amount of years just to keep the fans happy even that road is like I don’t know it it it would take a

Lot from the point that y’all are at I just think you honestly I just think that you they again they didn’t assess the rebuild properly the first time you need to take a full step back and I think that’s what they’re saying no I think that’s what they’re saying

Apparently that’s what they’re saying like they’re trying to take a few steps back get some Lottery balls and reassess starting with the guy that’s like 25 years old and just kind of build from there um I don’t I think it although I am a proponent of tanking

It is hard to replicate a good bounce on the lottery balls so if you did get a good bounce on the lottery balls one that performs at the level of Trey young until you until honestly until he’s exhausted you shouldn’t be exhausted to be honest with you paive needed um I’m gonna say

Crazy yeah man yeah man come on man what’s going on here uh I’m gonna say yeah the Hawks uh looking at it right now they made a trade for Delon Wright and then they made some other trade for Kevin Knox but they did get a pick so I

Guess there’s somewhat a little bit of leeway there but for the most part what I’m looking at is a team that outside of one major detail that I’m not leave that I’m leaving out intentionally because it’s a crazy detail is um they basically carbon copied the roster especially when

You give uh context that they decided to go on and pay John Collins Max dollars so they really was like yeah this is the core and um it wasn’t so so sometimes you make those plays you miss those plays the question is how do you respond

I again I love the idea that they at least finally have the self-awareness to be like yo this [ __ ] is not gonna [ __ ] work because you know what as slow as the HW SC this is not the slowest case in point the Washington Wizards literally a year ago my God John

Wall and beill was cooking up in 2015 and they said [ __ ] it we gonna have Bill be the star of the show for like literally damn near 10 more years and [ __ ] man hey shout shout out to the Hawks here look you [ __ ] up hopefully

They can make this right but it man man I I it’s just sad to see because I really just want a team with Trey young and defense on there and um they keep going for this ultr Lord offense thing during the rebuild I guess if that’s the

Next bit of this discussion whatever you whatever ass that you get whatever draft picks you decide to draft I’m tired of seeing the Hawks essentially be like top five and three-point percentage let’s let’s let’s let’s accept 1015 let’s get that defense up man let’s start let’s start locking up let’s start hiding Trey

Young and let’s see if you can hide Trey Young on that note let’s see what happens I’m definitely um feeling like s’s but a little bit with the try Trey young and rebuild the entire ship um obviously get everyone out there not named Trey young uh business reasons and

Just logic alone yeah that’s your franchise point guard he’s good enough to be a franchise point guard he’s good enough to sell tickets he’s good enough to sell jerseys he’s going enough to be exciting is he gonna be the best player in your team if you’re about to win

Probably not but I don’t think they’re trying to win anytime soon this is your time to really build upon that uh definitely should um trade everyone I’m I’m keeping I’m not going to let him go for anything not going to lie but that but that’s what I’m saying though if if

Their goal again like no troll is just to be a NBA team that keeps on being a playoff team but not is never really considered a serious Contender then yeah keep Trey young but if the goal is to rebuild build a new culture around a new franchise player that could potentially

Actually uh you know give them a a potential that they just couldn’t have with Trey young leading the way and I would be Pro blown up Tre young but if if you think hey you’re fine hey let’s just beat the Nicks for for a couple

Years I I think me and D had the same question so do you see any franchise that can make Trey young work as the number one or anything like that because that’s what it sound like that you’re not really a fan of because other than

That I’d be like [ __ ] why wouldn’t it be y’all especially if you’re rebuilding every other piece at least you got one I think um I think it depends on the team and again their goal like he try young could be a number one uh number one

Option on a team that’s just trying to win trying to build winning culture same thing with like what Jaylen br and dear foxart but if the goal is to win a championship I don’t think TR young can be a number one unfortunately and that’s fine for him not to be number one but

You don’t think the Hawks can do what we seen the Timberwolves do recently in terms of with cat I’m one of the people that are pro oh you got to trade cat hey F me them [ __ ] are the number one seat in the west and they built instead of

Building around cat they use cat to build around someone else now it took them finding ant Edwards and it’s not like you about to just find ant Edwards everywhere but you still have the ability to still look for that next guy trade all your assets and still be in

That position and keep a Trey young there is a reality with that if he understands what you’re trying to do I think the only way a player will be a part of that is if you have them in that situation have that conversation with them very early on so they know what’s

Coming I don’t think a player player wants to be ambushed by okay we’re about to rebuild and we’re just gonna put you on the back burner or hey I’m playing for you to be the number two for this team in three years no let him know

Above time let him be a part of that process so he feels like he has a hand in it and he feels more like it’s still his team I guess in a sense so cat cat was drafted 2015 right and then was 2020 yep so if Trey was drafted

2018 that would have happened like what you’re talking about I feel like would have happened already and maybe that’s just me like following the linear path that the timber rolls did but I mean I I see that too that’s just that’s just my opinion well that’s not

Wor just it’s just like shout out to T for the five gifted by the way trash but I think I think also if you do that and we can move on from this but I think also if you do that I’m you know hey do it understand what’s coming down the

Pipeline in the next drafts and to be honest with you I don’t see something in in a reasonable draft that I could be like all right if I just sold everything and tanked out for that next guy I see it in the immediate and somebody would have

Somebody would have to tell me what that what that is we already missed out on you know uh uh the chats the wimes from this draft if you believe it to be coming out of the next draft I would ask you where isn’t there like a 7-1 dude um

Alex s uh he’s definitely nice but I don’t think they’re going to be in a situation to get him he’s going he should go one but top three and the Hawks definitely AR in a situation where that’s going to be their pick and I doubt you’re about to get that level of

A pick from anyone else for anything on this team hypothetically if they had won DMO noar because I know yall watch college if they had number one is there a guy in this draft or the next draft even where you’re like all right you know what [ __ ]

Trey young we got this dude we’re the futurist right is there any is there anybody like that well I’m saying [ __ ] young I’m I’m literally being hyperbolic fair I’m being hyper [ __ ] Treyon immediately I’m gonna say no not nothing to say [ __ ] Trey young nah not

Not at least not right now is there players who potentially can become that I think so I think he’s probably a couple players where it’s like okay in hindsight now knowing what he is now we should have did it maybe one or two but

Off the top of my head outside of SAR in this draft who and I will say he’s the only guy that I think is like worthy of being dubbed a future Superstar other than that matus bues is I see him as a France Wagner but that’s France Wagner

Yeah good player but I don’t think you’re about to get rid of try young for France Wagner And I’m not saying he’s better than him that’s the type of player that he is I would say next year I want to say the Boozer twin is g to be

In next year’s draft Carlos Boozer has uh twin Sons one is super super nasty [ __ ] super nasty other a tall guard I think that’s Cameron Boozer Cameron and Kate Kate’s a point guard is a length point guard he’ll be in the league but

Cam is a dog I I like cam I don’t like cam enough to say uh [ __ ] Trey young um I don’t think they’re in the next I don’t think they’re in 25 I think they’re in 26 26 you think it’s 26 czer does sound familiar actually I wanted to not lie but I

Actually I’m looking at it now oh no 25 25 I just I think that I think that it’s an indictment on you as an organization that has a 30 and 10 guy and you can’t figure out how to make him work not saying that that he has to be

30 and 10 but you have a guy that has you can only produce what you’ve produced but that’s the sign of like a mismanaged middling team that’s filled with like bad management decisions like from the top to the bottom so this [ __ ] is averaging 20 28 and 11 right

Now you can’t you can’t figure you can’t say to yourself you know what let’s get a jiren Jackson type an Evan Moy type or Jared Allen type or an Anthony and I know I know some of these names I’m naming like I’m about to say Anthony

Davis type which is a pretty extreme but we know what I’m saying let’s get an A like some athletic bigs that could do a couple of different things on offense that can stretch the floor it’s literally what you need you need two of them to fair but yeah Nas have had Clint

Capella for eight years and this is the other side of the career CL capella and then also had a undersized forward that doesn’t do anything on offense for four years like I just don’t if you can’t if you literally like I no [ __ ] if we

Took the name off of him and again we don’t have to spend this much time on Trey Young and the Hawks if you took the name off of him and I gave you a guy who was 28 43 from the field 37 from three uh 86 from the line three boards 11

Assists two steals uh four turnovers and you take you can’t you can’t figure out what to do with him like you you you’re getting worse every year you’re progressively getting worse you’re going from like at one point maybe seventh 760 to now you’re like out of even the playin they

Implemented the playin to give you an opportunity to get into the playoffs and you can’t even figure that out that’s not the play that’s not the player well let me let me just make it clear too when I said blow it up that includes management to me like this this

Guy can’t make it work so it’s not like just a Trey young thing you can’t win with Trey young it’s not just a coaching thing I think for me they need a whole new culture built by a whole new dude

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11 Comments

  1. Tre young is not a franchise plaster he has not done anything outside of the season all the top teams didn’t have a offseason after the bubble

  2. lol the hawks are only 4 games out the play in and they talking about blow it up if anything trade Murray for a bigger SG/SF player and they will be fine

    This season no team can just lose 3-4 games in a row and expect to be in contention
    Almost Every team tbh is playing well to great

  3. I feel really really bad for Trae Young. I have Trae Young on my top 10 point guard list. He's just on an average/medicore Atlanta Hawks team

  4. As a hawks fan I can say it’s Trae young’s fault! His lack of development is hurting the team . He will always get the stats but that’s because he has the ball in his hands all the time . But he can’t play defense he hasn’t put on any weight since coming in the league, he does the same moves and runs the same play every possession. And lastly he doesn’t know how to play off the ball!

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