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Gil & Baron Davis Explain WHAT’S WRONG With The Suns



Gil & Baron Davis Explain WHAT’S WRONG With The Suns

So you talked about KD let’s talk a little bit about the Suns uh Suns had the easiest schedule in the league before before their loss to the Clippers on Monday they’ve lost three of their last four games including two losses to the Clippers and one in the Grizzlies

Without John Morant they play the Lakers tonight on TNT so we’ll see how that goes down but dbook has been handling the point guard responsibilities for most of the Season he’s Aver 26 points five rebounds eight assists but also three turnovers per game so go know

Where you stand but I want to ask rest of couch do they need to try to add another PG to this to this roster or should they be riding out with dbook and Bradley Bill handling most of that responsibility it’s an advantage I mean he’s averaging eight assist so he’s

Averaging as the Middle Road point guards are right I mean it’s not hard to average eight assist today but I’m saying yeah but other than I mean yeah got be I’m saying is you got you got hie who who’s who’s making the original point guard that passing point guard

Look amazing again right um cuz for the most part it was basically dominated by scoring M um book at at that position he really do have the advantage because he’s averaging the same amount as somebody who’s passing first but he’s big so now you have to guard me you in in mid-range

Guy who’s going to sit in the post who’s a legit Twan now all the point guards have to guard him that’s an offense and advantage that so I wouldn’t bring in some point guard that yeah I I just think they play today weakness mhm you know what I mean they never play to

Their strength you got Bradley Bill Devon Booker Deon Booker playing point guard he don’t post up he don’t cause mismatch problems he’s getting double team kicking out to the dudes who can’t shoot that are you know less than 40% Shooters and they making plays when he

Kicking the head so the way that they play don’t really make sense cuz they really just out there playing street ball and if de Devin Booker got it he going to go with it if Durant got it he going to go with it Bradley Bill got it

He going to go with it and they not like working together yeah they not working together and then there’s and then the other two whoever they are they’re just whoever other two on the floor I don’t know all these dudes names I ain’t going I I’m going get we

Appreciate you keep it real be I’m start playing 2K so I learn everybody name but whoever the other two players are they not they not doing nothing to like ease ease the um the situation out there for a Booker so they ain’t bringing it up and saying book post and the big dude

Shooting threes and you know drawing double teams they just out there playing like you know [ __ ] street ball the the problem is the problem is KD don’t have them that same type of uh uh the wing guys like he had in Brooklyn he had the same KD but that’s we not the same

KD but but look who what he play with he played with Bradley Bill and he play with Deon Booker they not they not Kyrie and James Harden like that ain’t the same type of flow and the only reason why that didn’t happen because of you know but they different this is a

Quicker off and they’re not better but they’re not better than them those two of them them two Wing guys ain’t better than James and and not as individuals as a group they could be because Brooklyn had Brooklyn had a better Brooklyn had a better chance of winning it than he will

With the Suns what I’m saying is oh yeah for sure let me come let me go over there and put them in a three-man game uh offense I put them in I put them in it’ be three over there you two you right there three man game why the [ __ ] these

Three a’t playing thre man gam look Three Man game pick and roll Devin book uh Booker and KD pick and roll bill you in the corner roll a 1 three pick and roll with KD what you going do pass I’m pass I’m a pass it to KD

Then then Booker bill y’all do a screen I’mma set a screen for you what you going to do switch it we going to roll we going it should be a thre man offense instead of you play one1 I sit over here you don’t got it my turn no the my

Offense will be it’ be just these three yeah and that’s fine y’all go y’all go y’all go do some little things duck in a little bit I might see you back high post drop down to the post on book throw it to Katie at the high post uh on the

Elbow let them work put book in the corner what you what you they don’t play together they don’t they don’t play together say turns it feels like when you’re watching them they’re like playing three completely different games yeah and it’s not in sync it’s never in

Sync to the rhythm of the game and so nobody else contributions really matter if there’s no flow it’s just like oh he had a good game but we lost and it’s like damn dude if he could have got a 17 points last game who would won you know

The wrong people are stepping up to like build the gap when the right situation and the right way that they should be playing they should other people should be like the heroes for win like you know winning game basketball is in the locker room for Hustle but and but our problem with

The Lakers right it’s when you’re not doing anything on the court it hurts the stars that it hurts the Stars cuz you’re not you’re not carrying weight so now when I I’m getting double not pass it to you and you sitting there like you’re anxious get get back open

I gotta get open do the same thing to get doubled again yeah like be do something like that back door every time run the lane every time like the board that’s what I said like go offensive rebound try to give me three games just offensive rebound try

To give me three extra possessions hey it’s LeBron and AD you can’t get no off you you don’t get rebounds leak out see if we can get you two of those a game up the court get you uh you know Carrie KD it right now when my guy decide to shoot he

Got to run the [ __ ] back right there’s there’s things you can do in this game but me Karan and Antoine we going it’s it’s going to be us three we coming down the court it’s we going to be it’s going to be me and Antoine on this side so you

Know if it’s swing two man game right if Antoine by himself on the post up me and Karan you swing it back here Twan game right they don’t they don’t do that right it’s just you go on that side play by yourself you don’t like your

One-on-one match up give it to me I’m a TI up the middle if I don’t like the match up I’m then I’m going to give it to you like when is Jaylen brown or Tatum playing together pick and roll let’s get like that’s fair that’s that’s that’s the problem with now everybody

Everybody wants to play oneon-one and don’t realize that 90 something 90% of our possession should be within the three of us and they work out so here’s the problem they be working out playing oneon-one right or they do workouts one on nothing then you get in the game and

It be somebody in front of you and you ain’t got no one-on-one skills you got drill skills you look nice in drills but you ain’t got no one-on-one skills so now you’re in the game and it’s like somebody in front of you you don’t know how to play off action and you’ve been

Practicing [ __ ] that you ain’t even going to do in the game you feel what I’m saying like you’re very passionate about because they con because they are con so I got three of them they are con when that cone start moving [ __ ] [ __ ] that cone a’t that con

Ain’t double double pack double Pat back between the legs grab it up put it down [ __ ] Ain’t he what the [ __ ] is that like nobody ain’t got like a uh like nobody has an identity bro you know what I mean it’s like you got your Superstars

And [ __ ] like that but like it ain’t no Journeymen or or glue guys or like nobody got like a real like like you know you can look at say Shane Bader you know exactly what he do you know Boris di you know exactly what he do what he

Bring to the table a lot of these dudes they Ain not they not coming with no style to even counter with everybody everybody just doing the same [ __ ] cuz they on the internet

Gilbert Arenas & Baron Davis Explain WHAT’S WRONG With The Phoenix Suns as they dive into why the team with Kevin Durant, Bradley Beal and Devin Booker are struggling so much and tell the Gil’s Arena Crew that an NBA team without any cohesion is always destined to fail.

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48 Comments

  1. Suns don’t have a athletic power forward that’s the problem kd at his peak had guys like draymond or ibaka at the 4 rn they got kd all offense no defense or not enough decent size big bodies like if you put jarred Vanderbilt on the suns they’ll be a way better team

  2. It's crazy to me how easily Gil and BD break down what's wrong with these teams that aren't hooping like they should. Do the coaches not have these levels of insight? It doesn't make sense how bad they are at their jobs

  3. Y'all need to realise that they have only played 7 games together. They're still figuring out the offensive flow. But it looked terrifying against the lakers today.

  4. Exactly and that’s been the issue wherever KD has gone since leaving the Warriors. Suns just want to hand the ball to their big 3 and go “score a bunch of points”. I see no motion off ball smh.

  5. This dude just said Kyrie and Harden are better than Book and Beal and that's why they're struggling?? Could it be that Kyrie and Harden just fit better? Also, this current trio hasn't played a lot of games together.

  6. Beautiful breakdown. Thanks, gentlemen! I spend more time watching these Gil show breakdowns than watching any NBA game.

  7. It’s common knowledge now but the issue with the suns is that their top heavy… they have a starting 5 that can compete with the best when healthy but now even health is becoming a rarity.

    My take: they need a true PG. Book is not a PG… not everyone can be Harden. Put him back at the two and get a true table setter. All their baskets are way more difficult than it should be.

  8. 7:04 mannnnm glad Baron said this! Because this is EXACTLY Tatum! Everything he does on the court looks like a pre-meditated drill. Luckily most ppl who guard him don’t actually play defense. But you can tell that when he does get a good defender and they inhibit his pre-practiced series of moves, he has almost no ability to adapt/play-off-of-the-defender, and he “glitches” (jumps to shoot and doesn’t actually release the ball, some weird travel, falls down, etc).
    In college and overseas we only did shooting drills for warmup, the rest was full-court 1v1 with progression to 5v5

  9. No shock as to why there's zero actual thought process here on how to improve the Suns. Because besides the fact that collecting stars doesn't equal a championship, it rarely does … their big problems involve supporting players, depth, and teamwork. This podcast has no interest or knowledge in anyone who isn't an already made star. So … zzzzzzzz.

  10. If your team is built around a couple of volume scorers then you don't need playmakers or anyone else who needs the ball in their hand. You only need grit and grind players who understand that they will never touch the ball and have the mental toughness to still make open shots anyway.

  11. Lol i got cut my sophomore year for playing too much streetball 😭 I wasn’t gonna make past the bench but lol man how people suppose just know plays, its not like football, where you have a huddle and time to think.

  12. BJ is correct in saying Beal+Book combo will never be as lethal as Beard+Kyrie…
    KD doesn’t seem to get that he left OKC for GSW because of the guard play (his words). Ever since he left GS he has been teaming up with iso score first guards and mediocre coaches. GS has the most selfless iso scorer in basketball and a constant movement offense with a legendary coach.

  13. Suns have 3 guys that are walking buckets… scoring ain't the problem with this team but defense and coaching are

  14. It's clear Baron Davis don't watch the suns..

    Why comment on it like you know? It's not hard to know the other two starters at the very least, Nurkic and Grayson Allen. And Nurkic is a passing big man and can't hit some 3s. Grayson is the number 3 three point shooter in the NBA. Come on….do better.

  15. Sorry BD that's cap, there's better roleplayers and journeymen now then ever before. You just don't know their names cuz you ain't playing 2k😂

  16. This actually makes a ton of sense. Roll guys nowadays mainly have no role…. just give the team some minutes

  17. These teams need to be taking notes. I swear they give the perfect breakdown for what everyone needs to do to succeed and no one listens 🤦🏾‍♂️

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