Drilling down HOW Dejounte Murray to Lakers works (and why it makes sense!) | The Hoop Collective
There’s ways the Lakers can make a trade to improve with just having to shed 1.3 they could they could make a trade improve their roster and get out of the tax sure if you’re sending out a um a $14 million player for an $18 million player um you get under you get under
There yeah so um or a$ 15.7 million player for a $19 million player well and what Bobby’s referring to here a possible dejonte Murray trade um it doesn’t take highlevel cap mechanics to figure out how the Lakers could trade for Deonte Murray get him get that contract that
You talked about a guy on a on a favorable deal based on the the machinations and get out of the luxury tax which would save them uh they’ll be like they’ll be like New Orleans look at that $4 million plus you know like in the repeater over being
Over a million is like you know it being somewhere the neighborhood of 15 16 million so um you know 15 million to the Lakers um they can find uses for that uh I remember years and years ago I always tell these stories Bobby I know people
Probably get bored of them but um years and years ago when Dr bus was still alive I remember the Lakers made like a deadline trade where they like I think it was Chris MIM they traded Chris MIM to save $3 million and um remember saying to somebody why would
They do that why would the Lakers need another $3 million and they’re like that’s three more million dollars for Jerry bus to take to the tables in Vegas and it was a joke but like that’s true you know like the if the Lakers make an
Extra $6 million each one of the six bus kids gets an extra million I I know what to tell you that’s just the way it is I’m not saying they make decisions based on that but when you look at the possibility of trading your roster trading improving your roster and saving
$15 million it might make it a little easier for them to include a draft pick you know a first rounder yeah I mean it’s not like if you were 10 million over the luxury tax and like you know when you’re in that like that that one
To four range you know there there are you know there deals out there to get you under and there’s nothing wrong with you know saving $14 million I think what the interesting thing is and I and I’ve heard I heard you guys talk about this
On the last podcast is that de jante M trade bonus right yes please bring this up to me because you said something to me about this that I highest it’s the highest in the NBA um 13 the highest ever I have to go look at a note I you
Know what I think it could be um I have to go look at my notes and and people have to realize like um and you guys have said it guys with Max contracts have trade bonuses in there but there’s rules in place where you’re your the
Bonus can’t exceed the max allowed so if there was never a rule in place then yeah these guys would have their trade bonus would be like $30 million and stuff because it’s the it’s the percentage of what is owed on on the salary here so as of today the Murray
Trade bonus is $13.4 million it’s the most in the NBA second is Anthony Davis at $12.9 million two clutch players so clutch likes to put trade bonuses in his contract here’s the interesting thing when you go look at the the the jeante Murray trade bonus when Murray did his
Extension with San Antonio rookie extension the trade bonus was not in there it was a straight deal however when he did his rookie extension they opened up the San Antonio contract and amended that and added a trade bonus in that contract and they added a a put a trade
Bonus in the rookie in this new extension so he’s getting it he’s getting the bonus on what’s left this year and he’s also getting the bonus on what is owed to him over the next four seasons here so it’s like he got open up the contract how is that allowed they
Amended it they amended it to add the uh to add a bonus it’s you know you’re allowed to you can do that there so they add an exhibit four with the trade bonus it’s at 13.4 million if he’s traded let’s say we get off this this zo uh this podcast and he’s
Traded uh can negotiate right you can negotiate it down and you can what I mean that’s a lot of money though go to La taxes right um yeah it’s it’s um it’s spread out over um four years you don’t include the last year which is a player
Option as far as adding so $3.4 million would be added to each year Atlanta pays the bonus but for cap purposes that number gets added to that you know that 18 and change number that that Murray has does Atlanta have to give him the full 13 million now or they just pay it
Over the next three years two two installments so so there but here so here’s your big your big picture and I know like you’re not supposed to look back on trades that happened okay so we’re gonna pay this guy 13.4 million and then you know what next year we’re
Going to send that unprotected 25 to San Antonio and an unprotected swap in 26 and unprotected in 27 here so if you’re Atlanta you’re trying to recoup as much you’re you’re not getting you’re not getting what you gave up right like that a happening so you’re trying to recoup
As much as as much as you can before you’re kind of moving off him right but so all the other thing is is that de jante Murray’s cap number changes going forward so you were talking about how attractive he is at 19 or 20 million on your
Books um but then even though the Lakers don’t have to pay that extra three million a year he hits their books with the extra well I don’t mean to sound like the Lakers have him team X trades for him I know the Nets are a team well
Yeah I mean he goes from a he goes from a 24 point or $25 million player next year to like a like a um you know a28 million do guy then he’s then he’s gonna be 30 then 31 like it that nice right so whatever team would have interest in
Trading for him that he becomes a little bit more onerous on their cap however if you’re a team like the Lakers and you save $15 million in the transaction you can kind of put that in in an interest bearing account and say okay if we have to pay
Tax on this extra money over the next three years we did save 15 million when we got him and that again I don’t want to make it seem like he’s definitely going to be a Laker I I because I think that was one it was one thing that W was
Talking about last week is it’s not just the Lakers bidding um but in you the more I look at this dejonte muray situation even if he’s not the absolute perfect fit for the Lakers um I do think it makes more sense as I more I talk
About it why they would be interested in that Trade
Brian Windhorst and Bobby Marks join The Hoop Collective to give an expert-level break down of exactly how a Dejounte Murray trade to the Los Angeles Lakers from the Atlanta Hawks would work mathematically and why move would be optimal to pursue for the Lakers.
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31 Comments
Lakers don’t want Murray he doesn’t put them over. Especially if you have to give up Reaves just to get him. Bogdan is probably the player they want better piece. Or players from the Nets Dorian or Cam Johnson.
WHY DOES ESPN ALWAYS ONLY CARES ABOUT THE LAKERS
D'Angelo Russell stats are better than Dejounte Murray.
The grass isnt always greener
More help for Lebum James really 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He can't shoot a lick way overrated
No one wants the Lakers players or picks
Don’t nobody want to play with Lebron and that slow pace
I don’t understand how the Lakers can afford to make moves like this. They have one tradeable FRP and it’s in 2029. Your not willing to give up Reaves when he’s clearly the most coveted trade piece on the team. Lakers need to make smart moves around the margins, not a lateral move for a bigger name. Bojan Bogdanovich, Dorian Finney Smith, Royce Oneale, Gordon Hayward in the buyout market. These are the moves that they should be making. Any bigger trade would involve the 2029 and it won’t move the needle for them. Save that pick for something bigger down the road
Lebron can not play with ball dominant guards. He is the ball dominant guard lol
The Lakers should focus on the team who is already come out and said they are rebuilding. They should try to get Bruce Brown and Schroder from the Raptors. They could use both players.
Lakers don’t need a guard
It’s just hard to play with lebron
Why would the Hawks want Russell? They need to fill the SG space alongside Trae with preferably a two way guard.
Dr Buss, question to everyone. Legendary owner/gm and visionary or a little bit lucky?
Lakers dont have the assets and are very limited compared to other teams for Murray
it doesn't make sense. no need to blow it up the lakers have shown that the lineups they're running can work. they need a big man to pair alongside AD more than anything. if they really want a pg they should just try get to schroeder back as hes apparently frustrated in Toronto. they're not blowing up their roster again for another ball dominant pg who cant shoot
I've never seen so much analysis for a trade that hasn't even happened on a team that won't even be relevant in 3 months
It’s so sad that they will do anything to turn Murray trade talk into anything just to make reports about the Lakers. There are other teams that can give the hawks way more than the lakers can ever give them and they will not even talk about any of those teams. Anything to make a story for the lakers
I don't get why Atlanta would get rid of him considering he's going to be a big star. Clearly Trae isn't going to do it by himself. Atlanta needs to learn how to build without starting over every 5 years.
The Lakers need a center why is that not talked about
It's not a good idea he's not the defender he was like when he was in San Antonio why do people not see this
lakers are fuking delusional
Nah, we good with DLO
Windy losing WEIGHT 👏 👏 👏
What the Lakers need to do is quit acting like Reaves is untouchable and make this Murray deal ASAP.
Murray is just younger than Dlo….
Makes sense for who?
Would the Lakers be dumb enough to trade Russell and Rui to Philly for Batum/Covington and a young guy like Springer and a couple 2nd rounders???
Wouldn’t mind the 76ers adding another shooter in Russell and a long wing like Rui
Man, the media trying to improve the Lickers too. They want this. Why?
LeBron James always needs more help!
Please help the greatest player ever!
LeBron makes everyone around him better. That’s why he needs multiple trades every year…?