🐺 Minnesota Timberwolves vs OKC Thunder | POSTGAME | 1/20/24

🐺 Minnesota Timberwolves vs OKC Thunder | POSTGAME | 1/20/24

Oh Um and we hold on [Applause] oh and frees himself fires on the right three hits Anthony [Applause] Edwards got up in violence my Goodness wel welcome welcome to wolves after dark I’m your host ashin with our special guest stack Queen herself Sabrina welcome uh I dare I say what a game it was um what a missed opportunity uh to make some noise of the West the second team in the west just

Like breathing down our necks are we a real team are we a fake team are we playoff ready are we able to face the top of the West there was a Boston game that happened a week ago or so and we had a really good effort missing col me

Missing go bear however the closing minutes we kind of lack discipline tonight what happened that fourth quarter was abysmal we had a second quarter rise uh when we were down by 16 we had a third quarter prowess where we came off with came off the half with second half adjustments that fourth

Quarter I don’t know what happened but that 10-point 12-point lead quickly became a zeroo lead quickly became sj’s time to take over the game and where were we we were on the floor pouting waiting for the game to end missing free throws too that was the craziest thing

I’ve ever seen Sabrina how are you doing yes grab a sip of water and welcome all all of you to the show what’s up guys thanks so much for having me yeah um three of 13 in the fourth quarter as a team three of 13 that says everything this team

Currently is not serious they are not a playoff ready caliber team and something needs to change the turnovers need to get cleaned up and I’m gonna get H get sassy I’m gonna get sassy I’m so irritated yeah tonight was a great indicator of all the things that are

Wrong in our team all the naysayers about this this team um in a nutshell might not not perform to expectations those naysayers are going to shine bright tonight and we’re going to have some criticisms and we may have been subduing like you know kind of

Not uh kind of uh explaining some of our malc contents with the team over the last few games because we’ve been winning it’s been great to be on top it’s just a game right but this was a game this was this was a very serious

Game for me at least as a fan to root for but also just like are we the the top of the West is this legitimate and got a lot of questions I had a lot of questions last game I had a lot of questions against you know Detroit and

Even you know uh when we played uh Memphis you know like how we didn’t you know crush them like we started the game against Portland we like just absolutely destroyed them from the start right this was not the case let’s get down early let’s create a deficit early against the

Home crowd that’s Revan to go um it really disappointed me and lot of finger pointing you know Co Finch was like you know screaming at cat visibly as well as like a couple times they even showed it on camera um lot lots to fix and um I

Guess it’s I’m great to see I’m grateful that we are getting to see it now to hopefully be able to fix and remedy all this towards the end of the season but um yeah what are some of your big takeaways from this game and if if any we need

Something I don’t know if it’s a lineup change um can Nas play the three oh um I heard I heard a yes from behind uh Jaden his his turnovers his [ __ ] fouls when he shouldn’t be fouling it’s t tag fowls yes Johnny you’re correct um hell yeah Johnny I am the biggest

Supporter of the Jaden Jaden as a [Laughter] whole Johnny come on I love it Johnny we’re gonna get you on the show too Johnny like come say hi now what’s up Johnny you can’t just be a f you can’t just be a voice you can’t just be a

Voice say what’s up hello if Jamie plays like that again he’s on tra BL we’re not going that far I love it that’s idea of Jaden is good yeah the idea of Jaden is Gooding um at halftime we saw Shay gildas Alexander just like control the

Game from the line 10 for 10 from the free throw line and we made some half second half adjustments we played off of him we played um contained game we play a contained defense against him and he was kind of relegated to nothing and they were right when they were talking

About in the broadcast in the third quarter he didn’t really have more than four or five points in that third quarter and he doesn’t play the first half of that sixth quarter that fourth quarter when he comes back in that lead isn’t 10 or 12 that lead is two it’s

Pretty crazy right like we should have built that lead um maybe go ahead um SGA in the second half was six of 13 yeah so he shot 46% in the fourth quarter alone he shot 67% he was four of six yeah if the Wolves see OKC in the

Playoffs are we a first exit first round exit oh well I don’t I don’t know if like who’s gonna drop to be a first round matchup is OKC doesn’t seem like they’ve been thriving this year so it’s going to be like one of two teams and

It’s not going to be OKC so I don’t know what you’re insinuating there by first matchup against OKC but maybe you know um you know praise be like they are awesome they they seemed like um a team with a lot of holes though and I thought

We were exploiting them at in moments we were bigger we were faster and um though um actually we weren’t faster but we were bigger we were playing in like spurts of like great efficiency I wonder like I have some notes in big bold like permanent marker

On the back of a a insurance form um so I don’t know what that’s all about but uh I have a couple questions and also we’ll get that in a minute yes um what do you think about the ball movement dilemma of our team because we

Are trying we were forcing the ball to be moved tonight and I think it’s great as a philosophy but we don’t have outside of Conley and slowo we don’t have like the best passers on our team and when Conley is and whenn Conley has a 1 for3 like pretty crap outing you

Know like I think he went one for 11 tonight right that’s that’s something like he was even benched at moments for more baby ma right like where is that actually happening where’s the ball movement actually happening and should we just be more ISO when those two players specifically aren’t on the court

And the philosophy is also in question are we a good ISO team exactly we don’t have Jason Tatum we don’t have Jay Brown we don’t have the iso Kings we don’t have you know joid right there’s there’s three things that we tend to go to when the offense

Sols ant ISO cat at the nail and searching for somebody from behind the ark cat at the nail is risky because he hooks everybody because he gets away with it once or twice in the first or second quarter and then whatever the case may be Ant is

In a shooting slump he usually Rises to play to good team good teams he didn’t really play very well tonight and our ball movement issue when we have 27 or more assists in a game we win it’s like we’re like 12- two or 12 and one or

Something yeah if we have over 27 assists in a game we had 22 tonight the biggest issue for me tonight we out rebounded them 61 to 45 no and we still lost dang uh I feel like a big takeaway from this game is I think people are going to

Get in the comments here in a second but turnovers like where’s the discipline where’s the maturity where is the efficiency where’s the offensive flow when one thing isn’t going go to the next thing if the other thing’s not going we got to hit the hot hot hand and

Ride the hot hand we had a Nas moment we had a ni Nas blip we had a you know a nice uh you know moment there in the second quarter with with him and then in the third quarter we built a lead and we were just like like kind of just just

Basically Bing them and when SGA goes to the bench like they were starting to fall apart uh my question to you also is what’s up with these slow starts like what is the game plan that allows us to kind of fall back and um uh

To like back bad habits and uh low low low efficiency shots and you know you see a cat midi you see a cat like not Square to shoot a three um you’re seeing ant trying to do too much you know I think honestly OKC had a great game plan

Hustle and hurry up ant make him really uncomfortable and then kind of just play small against cat and it usually worked like they played Jaylen Williams they played Isaiah Joe on Cat and it was working at moments and I was just really frustrated with a lot of that but like

What happened with the slow start you have any anecdotes or any like kind of takeaways from that as well the slow starts I mean it stood out the game against who did we who did we play Thursday Memphis Memphis so it stood out when aunt said I showed up and didn’t

Want to play today oh yeah right it seems like when we get off to slow starts that we do not want to be on the court and then something has to be said to Aunt or cat or Rudy by slowmo by Mike by right anybody on the bench really to

Get them to get for lack of a better term their heads out of their ass and start playing like the PE the the players we know they are and I mean yeah I’m reading chat here as we talk we to ones Jack said the turnovers neutralize the rebounds that is very

True so because of the high amount of turnovers we had the rebounds were kind of null and avoided and I do get that so if we clean up the turnovers and we rebound the way we’re supposed to and we share the basketball the way we’re supposed to we have recipe for Success

If people show up to work well speaking of showing up thanks so much for showing up tonight this was kind of an ugly game all throughout um and not just you Saina but everyone here as well let’s get to the comments a little bit an hour and a

Half ago black mama says ants lack of aggression is honestly feels so annoying what happened to those 15o first quarters I feel like there’s been a shift where we need we got to get other people involved early in the game just to like EST establish other people and

Then maybe kind of open the pores of their defense so then ant can like kind of effectively go late in C quarters right and I’ve noticed that as a small Trend and I don’t really like that Trend I like seeing ant aggressive early um I also want to see catmore uh shooting

Threes just generally all all the time but like we haven’t been seeing a whole lot of that early in game games but um yeah we we like last game we saw Jaden kind of pop off and again tonight we had like Jaden lead the way for the in the

First quarter with like eight or nine points right uh Noah the Thunder gives us the most defensive problems in the entire NBA whoa that did not expect this um ant has such bad ball security and handles especially gets the team filled with handsy three and D guys I love that

Com that part of the comment I don’t know if like the Thunder are the biggest problems because I thought we whoop their butts on occasion I think that they have some holes with like Josh giddy um on their team because like boy does he pass the ball well but like he’s

Inept defensively so they’re probably looking at like switching things up to improve their roster in that regard um but I think this yeah Mike Colleen goar pick and roll is an absolute disaster against a team who can Blitz the point and then scatter quickly back to the

Perimeter uh that’s a pretty good yeah pretty good observation sometimes I have like you know Rose tinted glasses I’m not like focused on how they’re playing and I’m just focused on how we are executing and maybe I’m like too belligerently like obsessed with watching cats every mistake you know

Like sometimes I just like Miss and dismiss the fact that you know KC has like a better game plan and better philosophy and better just a roster up and down the you know uh the whole line like yeah um moving on here a couple more comments here what’s up George

Johnston uh a looks absolutely awful right now his turnover problem is getting out of hand also what the hell that make your free throws what the hell happened there at the end uh I don’t think I’ve ever seen that before yeah I he missed the first one and it’s like

He just mentally checked out you checked out yeah I think so yeah um there are some takeaways there are some positive takeaways in this game for sure but like yeah I I feel feel like that end of the back toback maybe the Memphis like like halftime two points four assists or

Something is like okay to like you know not get to to you know on him about because he tore it up in the second half especially in that third quarter but like you know a game like tonight where you’re home you’re against the a division rival essentially the the

Person the team that’s breathing down your neck you should show out and like take that match up personally and usually he does right like I felt like he was complet completely outclassed out guned out everything against OKC tonight against SBA most importantly I think that they just as Noah describe that

They have like the dudes to really hurry up and really frustrate uh ant and so how how is we as a team how do we adapt you know and I felt like we were we were just lucky with a string of Threes to to just to to get back into the game and

Then we were lucky to just like hurry you know get great offense in transition I think we were lucky and fortunate to get those moments where I think OKC for the better part of this game was outplaying us um okay Noah says right before the end of the game I’m sorry I’m

Like 40 minutes behind of these comments we’ll get through some of them here I might have to skip down don’t care if we win this zero chance we beat this team in seven especially if the thunder make a deadline move as well they have all these pieces they have all this luxury

To push for an all-in kind of essential or like at least like a you know a contending type of move and I think good for OKC if they try to do it um cool Mason welcome to the show I’ve been telling y’all we lose to AK OKC in

Five or six games in the playoff series just like what you were saying Sabrina like if we match up against them you know not like a one versus eight but like a you know like a semicon or even Conference Final like what happens how do we how do we actually square up and

Do we have the maturity to like adapt I was watching cat struggling to get open and I was watching ant get you know uh basically bodied all game so like if those 1 a 1B options are like not there luckily we had a bench mob that came up

To a fruition but that’s not going to be every game right uh one more comment I I had like my little notes Here uh Sabrina maybe your thoughts are gonna be different but um we actually shot the three pretty well tonight like we shot it a lot as well but um we outscored

Them from three that is something that I have noticed in the last like six to eight games we have not been doing and I even made a point of it in the Memphis game that we were just not we were outscored by from three and I

Think just to compete in today’s NBA we need to just make that a priority and I was really happy and really encouraged to see that however the Mike Conley from three was one for nine the ant Edwards was one for three right the um the best

Shooting big of all time was one for four right like that should not happen right I’m just sorry like that’s disgusting so we could have been so much better from three luckily we had our bench to come through but I don’t know what are your thoughts on that the

Three-point shooting as we get to more comments I might just start hovering over them as we move on our three-point shooting it’s our our our starters can be hot or they can be ice cold and then Nas Reed can either be hot or ice cold nille same

Thing hot or ice cold and I think that’s I mean it’s a basketball thing but it’s also in a sense that we don’t have somebody that’s quote unquote consistent from three like love him or hate him at least when Beasley played well he was consistent from three at least when

Yeah Patrick Beverly was shooting the ball from three well he was consistent in hitting them Mike connley was that for us but then he goes one of like nine from three today and one of 11 total or something like at what point do we look at some of

Our younger players like maybe when does Leonard Miller get some run when do we try something because what we’ve been trying now is clearly not working what an interesting point in a time where we need we are like having the West like uh you know kind of like

Looking at us and being like Oh we can beat you we can take you down and like OKC does it like that one thing that they did do was push Pace a bit right one thing that they did do was we were careless with the ball but they pushed

In transition and they just out completely dumpstered Us in transition and so could we have a faster roster out there please can we play with with like purpose could Al Leonard Miller change our complexion of our team or roster the answer is probably very unknown and especially the fact that he hasn’t been

Getting any burn maybe it’s a maybe there’s a sign there but maybe you know like we didn’t play a whole lot of Nas Reed at the start when you know Finch took over and he boy was he wrong you know like you know so we got to have a lot of

Like growing pains when we got to get through this maturity of our roster like what our team wants to ultimately want to be um welcome to the show again JJ creates my friend uh miss you but you come uh when we lose and I love that um even extra anxious towns when

Was three free throws that what a take what a take so wasn’t available for those last 16 seconds was he and I don’t necessarily agree with that I think Jay will pushed off I think that OKC as a whole gets away with way more push offs and shove offs

Then is acceptable in the NBA but I do know that’s not the reason we lost we lost because we turned the ball over and allowed Anthony Edwards to get stripped because he has no ball security whatsoever right now wow yeah you know I do agree with that like they are very they’re handsy

Both on the defensive end as well as offensive end but they are handsy in the sense that they like you know it’s sga’s like forarm push off maybe I didn’t see that on full display tonight but I definitely did see it where they call fouls or they just let it happen that’s

His game I don’t know like you know what did what did we do when we saw Harden like take over the game with all his like travels they changed the game they changed the rules where traveling is acceptable now apparently you know uh anyways that’s me weird with a weird

Take um black Mambo we’ve seen this coming Edwards is terrible free throw shooting in 10 shots wow it’s kind of crazy to see that like I think we are at times over reliant on Edwards to like just we need that Edwards you know we need that Edwards moment that Edwards take over

The closing like moments of the game that’s kind of we’re expecting that in a lot of ways I remember a month ago maybe even talking to you about like is our team becoming clutch are we winning games now based off the fact that we can stall like extending a lead for like 40

Minutes and then like kill a team in the end um based off the fact that we have that closer but yeah when you shoot 10 times you’re in no rhythm when you when you shoot one for three or one for four from three you have no you know there’s

No flow for you so sure you got to the line a couple times you know like not good enough like my biggest thing my biggest thing is is we go into the bonus a lot and they refuse to drive to the basket yeah totally totally go is goar

Is great at getting those calls right to get us into the bonus situation goar is really hard to like defend when they’re small when they don’t have like big J Williams or whatever out there and Chad was like a pencil compared to goar right like he was not like able to really like

Box out or like defend goar in the post but we kind of sometimes have an over Alliance of like pushing the ball to go bear but the chances are we’ll get a call we get a fall call getting the bonus and you’re right where’s the where’s the aggression

Where’s the ambition to get to the line where’s why do we need to like you know fall to the ground and flail our arms to get a call and and do this and like clap our hands to get a tech like maybe there’s something that we need to like

Address with the refs privately but also like it’s also a person it’s also our team like no one’s driving to the rim one of my biggest one of my biggest red flags of our team was the ball handling and who is actually going to drive for the Rim

Yeah there there needs to be more set plays we need to come out and run a set play for Rudy set play for CAD a set play for Aunt Conley Jaden Finch needs to be better in situations like this and there’s a comment in chat I don’t know you’re

Probably way still taller up than me but uh um Nick Anderson Nick no you’re fine Nick Anderson said that is poor officiating tonight but I feel like they were bad on both sides and that is correct um there was a lot that could have gotten called on us there was a lot

That should have gotten called on us and should have gotten called on them and it was Ticky Tac fowls that shouldn’t have been there I will say I did see somebody in chat say that Oklahoma City wouldn’t know how to play with a playoff whistle

And I do agree with that to a certain extent but I feel like just like ant Rose to the occasion last year even though we struggled against Denver I think that SGA when he gets to that Limelight yeah so yeah um yeah I’m so behind I I am 20

Minutes behind on comments I’m going to start rushing through them I’m so sorry but I can’t dismiss this one from Mason Smith at least we have goat Bina to help us through um and Maurice Maurice oh Maurice welcome uh he’s a Dallas Mavericks fan but he made it to stream

Uh we’re a wild team where um the same commentary I gave you at dinner is the exact same commentary I’m basically spinning out right now um um and well also ant Edwards isn’t Alpha in the worst possible way at times uh Nick Anderson who changed his name in Discord

Discord by the way hashtag Discord join the Discord I don’t know where the where the link is but I think it’s in the commentary section of our show um join us because we are uh angrily talking about this game together as as well as like you know we have the over unders we

Have all these other fun uh you know kind of moments where we share uh job opportunities uh with each other um anywh who um it’s a great time it’s a good time um and just if you have this moment to like share subscribe I don’t

Know do all the things we are so so close to a thousand subscribers and that’ll just be something that would be just Uncharted Territory for us so cool and yeah Jim Pete nailed it at this point in the season turnovers need to be improving at this point in the season

Why is the top of the West like a team underperforming playing like we are a g-league team yeah like why are we uh forcing things why is cat and ant driving to the rim with the anticipation of like you know like you know like their their

Passing isn’t where it needs to be and if Conley isn’t passing you know we have a really unstructured offense uh we tend to rely a little bit more on the iso we tend to rely on the nail cat drives as you talked about earlier if solomo isn’t

In there like the passing is kind of not crisp right so it’s REI it’s heavily reliant on Ant and throughout the stretch of games po potentially the majority of the Season ant has had a pretty high turnover rate I I actually commend him for trying and trying to

Expand his game but lowkey it’s kind of sometimes hurting us so uh great point on that and um um and it’s in the middle of my Packers game 26 total shots from our big three what the hell the box score tells so much sometimes it lies a little bit but like

The 26 total shots that’s nuts can’t happen like why is NZ Reed and Jan McDaniels like leading us at half time right in scoring that’s pretty crazy that should not happen um my blood pressure shot Sabrina uh I was thinking Nas for Rudy at the end of the games yeah you know

It’s so nutty um we were up 10 and we were just forcing we were forcing slow ball movement and we were I think it was like 24 seconds on the shot clock and we were running through all of it and we were barely getting a shot up and and fol

Definitely did say he had that yeah what’s I I wish I knew a way to track how many turnovers came from trying to force the ball to Rudy in the paint yeah I agreed agreed uh Gerald uh my friend we already have placements for Carl and

Jaden on the team imagine if we got a real shooter Carl clearly isn’t one because he’s worried about stats and real role players for around 20 million um we will probably not talk about um this in depth tonight but that’s an episode that’s an episode um Eric maybe

Maybe during the allstar break if we I mean the trade deadlines before that so maybe we’ll have to take an off night and talk about potential trades and what we want to see or what we think needs to happen J someone George Johnson says uh consider trading Jaden for Mel

Bridges I love that idea I don’t know if what Brooklyn’s like maybe Mel’s value is lower now but uh you know that is the potential isn’t gonna trade we’ have to give us something like we gave up for Rudy for Michael Bridges or male Bridges and I don’t I don’t think Brooklyn’s

Going to give up Michael or Mel Bridges because they’re building around him I think could I mean I wanted us to do this last year but could we potentially beat the Lakers or the Kings or whoever’s supposedly in talks for Deonte Murray what does Detroit want for Jaden

Ivy um what does Washington want for Alex Burks there these are the questions that plag my mind at three o’clock when I can’t sleep yeah yeah totally I think Alec Brooks actually plays for Detroit which is crazy um but uh I agree I believe he was part of that trade where um Detroit

Sent players oh Marvin Bagley yeah oh no kidding what I Maybe I’m Wrong hold on it’s okay it’s it’s should relevant thing but like an Alec Burks would be nice but it’s a is it gonna really move the needle I’m not a whole lot I’m not a

Whole lot sure Mason’s gotta agree with I’m thinking of Marvin moving on we’re going to skip ahead to some of the comments what’s up Tycoon starting five for the look rattled tonight why are we rattled against like uh the G League Allstar and Alexander like I I actually

Am kidding on that point but like why are we rattled we are paying three times the payroll as OKC for uh you know to be down 30 to 15 at the first quarter like it’s pretty embarrassing um um moving on hey um let’s get into the tier list here

If you’re interested in um following uh us in our journey we usually have a tier list but boy did that site break down and I’ve had to uh improv uh a Google spreadsheet or Google sheet uh for this and I don’t know this is just a live

Look at how we do things on the Fly um now with a black background uh any who um yeah we already talked about this point but like man we talked about that point 20 minutes ago I’m so behind uh didn’t want to and wasn’t ready to but are two different

Things uh he never said that he wouldn’t want it to play okay that’s very true yes I I misquoted an and I apologized and shf so it’s all good hey um there’s a really funny con conversation that happened between Grady and uh Jim P tonight and there’s there was

Someone who talked to Jim Pete and he brought it brought up on air that there’s going to be a lot of people there that might make their change their name Andor you know name their babies Naz Reed what are your takes and are you willing to be are you willing to change

Your name to NAS Reed I’m not willing to change my name to NAS Reed but I do think that there are going to be a bunch of wolves die hards that potentially name their kid Nas we already have a cat that’s named Naas Reed soard shout out Anie and Anna and

Everybody over at uh links pod yeah totally oh yeah I love that um JJ C scope turning over anything outside of a quick Dro in dunk doesn’t help the turnover problem it’s like whenever he brings the ball down it’s an auto to exactly uh towns with the offensive files getting Edwards getting stripped

Throwing it away these three things exist every night I love that take it happens every game sometimes we over comp we compensate for this we we actually win despite all of this nonsense so in a lot of ways that’s like um uh you could say that’s like room for

Improvement but like it’s it’s a habit it’s like a known entity we are we are doing this in a game and teams are game planning for it you know if you hurry ant he’s going to probably turn the ball over he doesn’t have a like Escape move

Uh that is reliable sometimes you know especially when he’s in the air uh cat has one or two moves and he thinks he has 10 or 11 moves and um even one of his moves is kind of like like faulty right it has its risks and it has him

Hooking players and getting into offensive problems and falling down and things like that but the main thing as Twin City Bulldog said about 11 minutes ago the turnovers killed us I’m going to move ahead to the bottom of the comments I’m so sorry if I missed some people

Um oh Corbin Ford what’s up my friend it’s good to see you too ah I love it when we lose we get we get the Out of Towners I love love to see that that’s so great um alrighty um yeah we’re back To Dad camera and so I might have you take over for a minute and that also means we’re going to lose the tier list for a second I’m so sorry we’ll be right back um let me go back up the chat here um holy you guys have been talking oh

Okay um naasri travel and goal tending calls four-point swing right there curious what the last two-minute report will say about the town six foul I mean I’m not blaming the refs JJ you’re not blaming the refs Shay had 33 points and only one made three-point shot tonight ant needs to take

Notes yeah I do think that what it Shay end up shooting for the game like he was 10 of 22 yeah so he was 10 of 22 so 33 points on 10 ma shots is not good for basketball but that’s a superstar whistle for sure um I’m gonna be honest that n’s

Running like eight seconds off the clock possession just to drive for two points which lucky for him it got goal tended was irritating oh my God all right we’re getting into the tier list on Eric’s comment that car cat barrels on the People Too Much as well all right let’s

Go um tier list time um oh I’m just staring at OKC’s box SC that’s like that’s silly um Jordan mclin can we just say big UPS to Jordan McLaughlin after having a kind of a watcho performance last game against Memphis um Jordan mlin at least in his limited time he played probably extended

Periods of time tonight even with Conley at one point um three for seven eight points three assists two Steals and most importantly two threes that look like Curry Swiss Bobs I don’t know that was sweet to see um I want to say I’m very proud of him

For kind of like always staying ready even in like a two-minute burst like that’s usually uncommon to play double digit minutes um I’m glad to see this but you know we can’t rely in on on him so like I don’t know really what to say I’m

Giving him potentially a b or an A great what are your thoughts I think I mean mlin was three of seven in 12 minutes and 39 seconds played he was two of three from three which was incredible we needed him off the bench at that time and his offensive

Rebounds he had two yeah that’s an a there the little the little bald man had two offensive rebounds yes that’s it’s an A and uh I I’m reading chat uh Mason goar has pingpong paddles for hands everything bounces off everything bounces off dude I think

The trend is pickle ball so I think he pickle ball like waffle hands for hands yeah that’s crazy man we went from Butterfinger Vander Vanderbilt to goar and pingpong balls man or ping pong paddles that’s crazy oh yeah JM had a blocked shot I forgot about that oh my

Gosh that’s incredible it almost feels like A1 territory but we lost and we were embarrassing so that’s not happening tonight they didn’t credit him with a block shot but they also didn’t credit like Naz that block shot yeah that was [ __ ] yeah [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah B for sure

Um three The Hyphen nille Alexander Walker in 20 minutes three points five rebounds two assists and two turnovers a block shot um you know what um not my favorite nil Alexander Walker game he was getting praise from Jim Pete and Grady and I thought he had kind of a

Weird assignment you know I remember that playin game a couple years ago when we played against OKC uh we completely shut him down that was last season sorry we completely shut him down and nikil Alexander Walker was like MVP of that game completely no SGA in sight well SGA

Is definitely an MVP like caliber player to this year um and nikil Alexander was kind of a no-show tonight in my opinion um this is not what I expect and also I was starting to give him praise for like playing as a playmaker and I didn’t see

Any of that tonight I I’m looking like DLo tonight for our our boy N nille is a DLo for me this is not what we expect from him this is less than what we minimally expect for him with him playing the way he did tonight yeah he was good on defense it’s

But I mean at what point do we look and see either Kyle or Nelle or even Jordan mlin do we maybe try Troy Brown again you know I really hate like you said the word try and I’m like embarrassed like we don’t have it 42 games in the season we don’t have our

Roster situated we don’t have the the players blocked in I think Finch needs to be willing to go over that eight or n man rotation yeah I just I I don’t think we’re going to to be an eight or nine man on the bench team come the playoffs

I think we’re going to need to go deep into the bench especially since we have so many guys that can contribute yeah and we’re getting um distracted by Darkness Retreats here so I’m gonna hide this comment as you are so correct though Mason slomo who should probably join in on the darkness

Retreats niow slow-mo um which you know don’t quote that that was pretty stupid of me to say in minutes five points four assists two fouls of Steal but most importantly I thought he played better than the stats are showing I think uh I was a uh I was basically clamoring for

Him to substitute for cat early in the game earlier much earlier than Finch actually did it um and it’s most it’s most important that we establish ball movement and get others and get everyone going but like cat didn’t have it going in the start ant

Was you know kind of a sh of himself kind of like reluctant to get aggressive and when Conley is one for 10 from the game one for 11 from the game but definitely like 0 for two 0 for three in the first quarter whatever it was okay

So the ball movement is kind of uh um a hindrance because no one cares or trusts the person with the ball in their hands right so like now it’s like they can sag off and then they can protect the paint and then now he can’t drop and then the

Shots are off they were schooling us at the start of the game so long story short like I think slowmo had a better game than the sum of his Parts like the box score but still not good enough and I think um potentially see it’s I mean potentially it could be I’m gonna

Go C but it could potentially be a b just because um he’s typically turning the ball over in a game and he had no turnover over s today so it’s in that situation it’s a little more than what I expect but I agree he definitely should be a

C um where is he here you are all righty um yeah Mason’s correct this is the first game we lost where Kyle made a three oh no the stats they’re um they’re blemished uh Boston you saw Boston lose last night and I guess we can lose when

Slowmo hits a 3-2 you know um for those who who are just joining in welcome to the show we’re wolves after dark love to have you here uh don’t forget to hit like And subscribe I don’t know if you like this type of content but if you do

That’s awesome it’ be great to have you here for more of our shows that happen after most games um OKC OKC beat us 102 to 97 on the backs of 33 points from Shay Gill Alexander as well as like 15 16 free throws from him um but we had

Some like pretty stellar box score at least uh um results but most importantly they didn’t like translate to a win and so you see if you see like the the the defense stats here though we out rebounded them um though you know maybe we uh shot better than them we had

Triple the turnovers like what is that right we had um we didn’t have as many steals as them so like they were overcompensating by their lack of shooting and the fact that we were out shooting them from three with just aggressive defense and what aren’t we

The number one defense aren’t we the one who can like completely stop and thwart teams from making uh their offense look easy and I remember games prior where like Isaiah Joe popped off from three and like L Dort was like Unstoppable from three they didn’t have that tonight

They didn’t have the three-point shot tonight yet they completely owned Us in the areas that I thought we would be able to destroy and when I say own I thought this was a game where we could have really pulled away when we built a 10 12o lead and we did

The exact opposite um well moving back onto the tier list as I had that little die tribe I guess um let’s get into Nas Reed who had quite a quite a phenomenal first half I will say when we were struggling when we were down like what

Was it like almost 30 to 15 32 to 16 or something like that it was Nas it was the Nas Reach show one of two players to get us in double like at least get us back in the game uh with j mcos say the

Other one in 25 minutes 7 for 13 from the floor 18 points a team High plus or minus 17 uh and I don’t know if it’s a season high but I definitely had not really expected Nas to be like the block shot post Defender that he had been tonight

Uh while he still got a hustled a couple times like he has his moments where at least he’s not like unreliable on D he’s can he can kind of be Dependable in moments um I I I you know in in a way I’m seeing growth from him growth

Maturity Poise uh you know like all the things that we want in our players where I’m not seeing it maybe in his uh n be Nas Nas is a bee for me tonight I will say though he starting to pick up cant and ant’s nasty habit of arguing

With the officials oh no and um it’s yeah it’s starting to get annoying watching him do the exact same thing that we yell and complain at cat and Aunt for but NS had four turnovers tonight and that’s pretty high for him he’s been really good with his ball security so

That is pretty concerning for me sure um however 25 minutes seven of 13 four of eight from three no that’s what we should expect expect excuse me from our yeah in seven and a half minutes nzri in the fourth quarter two turnovers two points yeah uh in the third quarter

We had one turnover in the fourth quarter alone we had seven turnovers who can we kind of like really like attribute that to an and Nas that was the bulk of our turnovers players the other thing that you said is Nas is a team High plus 17 none of the starters

Were positive they were all embarrassing right it’s disgusting yeah I I actually agree with this uh and I will I will quote you uh completely goberry completely ignored uh ignoring giddy on offense was tonight was hilarious yeah I I really feel like they have some holes and they have some

Things that need to address just as much as we do um but I feel like they’re just man there may be they just the way that they move the ball is something that I I I just long for for our team we’re not there yet hopefully we’ll get there

Someday you know um hey we’re GNA move on to the starters and uh my stats are off let’s get back to them um let’s start with maybe uh the poison pill tonight where we were singing like his Praises last game last few games maybe all season since the trade of DLo that

He has been he’s been the rock for our team Mike Conley 28 minutes three points a team High negative -22 from the floor plus minus one for nine from three you know what I will give him that he shot nine times from three like you can’t say that about cat

Like for the majority of the season right but at least he’s shot nine times from three in in a in a SE in a season where we are looking and hunting for three-point shots at times I’m happy about that however absolute dog [ __ ] performance I can’t say that more say that enough I’m

So disappointed and you know in a weird way um I I expected by Conley to miss that shot at the end of the game right like I totally expected that to happen because I thought should have taken it I thought AD should have like driven to

The rim and actually not kicked it out and he maybe made the right play but in a game where Conley was feeling it it would be easier to kind of uh like live with that shot being a Miss but like why were we passing it to him why was he

Open why was cat not open like you know like all these things are super suspect to me about like late game execution especially when I thought we were starting to become a clutch team this is a d if not a wano performance from our boy Mike Conley this is a wcho it’s the

First wo of the year for Conley yeah I don’t know if you have any other comments sorry I was just kind of like vomiting here about Conley if you have anything else let me know everything you said is completely true yeah and yeah you know JJ I think he’s been like on a

Tear this year maybe some of his best statistical like uh um like deep stats that we’ll like see from conly in his career but uh tonight you know one for nine that’s going to suck uh three turnovers that usually doesn’t happen he’s us usually like a two 2.0 like

Assist to turnover ratio kind of guy maybe even more and he four turn four assists three turnovers that’s not going to cut it we had no ball movement and his lack of shooting was part of it like they could just sag off of him right like they would not defend him and he

Did make one from three so he he uh he does keep that streak alive and he’s up to like 50 plus games of shooting a three so I mean that’s cool but um Conley had um Jaylen Williams or jdub yeah the guy that uh J yeah Jaylen Williams so he had 20

Points with sga’s 33 so he was the second leading scorer yeah um great observation Noah and I feel like there’s like I don’t know why I’m thinking of Toronto they recently switched from like a very switchable team with sakam and OG and Scotty Barnes to kind of like quicker taller more

Defensive oriented guards and then they have a lot more ball handlers that can like run offense and like be aggressive with the ball and quickly and you know and um whatever they traded for I think they traded for like Bruce Brown Maybe I’m Wrong in some of that conversation

Or some of that an analysis there hashtag analysis but um what was I trying to say OKC they have a lot of ball handlers on their team and they’re tall and they’re kind of like bulky in a lot of ways I don’t think giddy is that but he’s tall

And he’s a matchup problem potentially for Conley so that’s a great that’s a great Point um and uh I wonder what his percentage has dropped after tonight yeah exactly uh well what’s up Crown 151 welcome to the show thanks for joining us yeah today

Was a bad loss for sure L ker was a bad night for Conley but that’s going to happen sometimes we are just so used to him playing so well I think EX exactly that’s another point I’ll get you here the tier list when we talk about antis

We’re just so used to him kind of doing the the closing out things right I think this was what we considered a quote unquote scheduled loss especially with all the sub 500 teams that we’ve been playing um I I think that this was an interesting yeah this is an interesting game but if

It’s a game that we were quote unquote supposed to lose I think this would be the one because I mean we play the Hornets on Monday what do we play after that I think it’s the Wizards and then we play OKC at the end of the month like

Whoa really dang I’m pretty sure our next couple games are the Wizards and the Hornets and we end the month at OKC well we can end this month strong and I think that would be a great sign of growth and maturity if we can do that um especially with these next couple games

If that’s true if that’s who we’re playing anyways we could fall down to the level of competition but uh jayen McDaniels the start of the game was amazing for you the end of the game I don’t know you f you followed yourself like kind of out of the game and out of

The Rhythm and I thought you had a really really great start to this game uh especially with like the eight nine points that you had in the first quarter Jaden McDaniels Big Mac himself slim Reaper put him in wo without even giving him his stats 15 points three for five from three couple

Turnovers and really basically nothing else while he was effective shooting wise um yeah is this a box score lie right there yeah wait say that again he’s six for 11 for the floor with 15 points and three for five from three right that’s he still a Watcho no I was being hilarious at the time because we all know how much I praise Jaden he’s he’s a c for the night but right very much I would give him a watcho if I could he is not playing like the uh player that we all know and love him to

Be ah what’s up disco all right uh he’s been lurking uh gonna have to say is peace uh if Mike Conley hit three for nine we win and still had 21 turnovers also we had 21 turnovers and they were within four with off games from

Everyone yeah yeah so I mean we l by what five four five and we turned the ball over 21 times we could have easily lost by triple that so that’s true that’s it’s scary right that’s scary to think about it means our defense was still there even if we struggled I like

Uh like Mason what he said uh the fouling has to stop from Jaden though yes um the reason that I am getting so frustrated with Jaden and I like everybody knows I am the President of his fan club and and the the fouls when he gets upset I got irritated at my

Boyfriend earlier because he said it and I didn’t want to accept it but I thought about it thank you and he’s true never lie on Jaden’s name I know but um no he when he gets emotional and he gets pissed off that he doesn’t get a

Call or he gets shoved off on or something happens he misses a shot he gets super emotional that’s why he punched a wall I I mean part of it is he’s only 23 years old 22 23 years old but he needs the maturity needs to improve like for the team as a whole

Rudy is 30 years old and he acts like aunt and Jaden and the young core and he’s 30 cat is a nine-year veteran and we all know cat is how cat is but he could use some maturity too yes Jaden is a huge part of the turnover problem but Anthony Edwards is

The bigger problem when it comes to turnovers because he has such loose handles and he doesn’t know how to keep the ball safe when he drives to the bucket he’s not AI yeah he’s not aii the only one do he’s you know not in his Prim right like he is still learning and

I think there’s like a there’s like a usage um like issue where maybe we’re relying too much on him and or we just are heavily relying on him taking over the ball because you know when he performs he’s like in ISO mode he’s in like I’m on fire heat check kind

Of mode and he needs the ball in his hands for that to work well we’re also asking him to do the other things which is run the offense which is like find the open man find the open shooter you know it’s so funny like throughout your entire history of playing basketball

Shouldn’t you do that by my by default but in like AA style basketball you’re trying to show up and show out so you’re not looking for others you’re looking for yourself to take over games and you’re like making very selfish decisions right and you know the uh the

Kyle Anderson’s the the role players of the league are very unsung heroes um when we talk about roster makeups you talk about the alphas in the room and you they need to be selfish for the team to actually run well right so ant needs to take the game over and ant needs to

Be more aggressive and that’s for All 48 minutes all the 38 minutes that he plays tonight let’s talk about ant right now 38 minutes 19 points he shot exceptionally well 6 for 10 but it’s 6 for 10 that’s not a halftime report that’s not a just a third quarter report that’s the whole

Game we are so accustomed to him taking over games but also shooting at least 20 times a game we it’s the inverse of like the Wiggins problem where Wiggins would be reluctant to shoot but also would just jack up shots in the game following yeah

The I mean okay so we played Memphis on Thursday night in so that was two days ago on the Friday show of NBA today so in the game following the day where Stephen A Smith Kendrick Perkins Malika Andrew Brian windhorse Richard Jefferson are all shouting Anthony edwards’s Praises Stephen A Smith

Went as far to say that he would buy a plane ticket to come to Minnesota because that’s where the national media needed to be because of Anthony Edwards Anthony Edwards is one of his favorite players in the game right you come out the next night as the Superstar for this

Team and you only have 19 points on 10 shots and you call yourself an Allstar yeah it’s uh it’s pretty crazy because we’re going to get to another player on our team that probably should take the game over when he’s needing to but we’ve seen it this whole season that

He’s been kind of unable to right because the ball’s not always in his hands and when the ball’s in his hands he’s making uh kind of careless decisions and that’s and we’re talking about cat here uh back to ant five turnovers right though he had five rebounds and five assists he had five

Turnovers cannot happen in today’s NBA when you’re the Superstar you can’t be making 10 10 10,000 mistakes he made a 5 by five by five game it was just five rebounds five assists and five turnovers o that’s gross yeah never again also he missed three free throws from the end of

The game when we could have tied up sended to overtime and had a delayed postgame show that would be kind fun he didn’t just miss he bricked those bricks were the loudest shots that he’s taken this month those three missed free throws wipe out that dunk from the

Memphis game I’m sorry it it wipes it he’s a DLo at best and I honestly think he needs to be a want show let’s go let’s make it let’s make it happen um I think so too my camera breaks apart again uh I’m I’m embarrassed about my camera here but

Maybe too much touching of ant here that’s what happened my camera’s gonna be static for the rest of the show uh anyways we’re gonna move on we’re gonna go a little bit faster here Rudy goar 33 minutes 1 for six what is that one for six seven points 18 rebounds pickle ball

Paddles for hands yeah and pickle ball paddles for hands um this wasn’t the best game from goar he you know hit his free throws for the most part um one of six how are you the biggest Rim deterrent in the game but you can’t make a layup you can’t

Catch a pass unless it’s a lob and even the lobs you’ve been fumbling the past couple of games I don’t know what you have to do Rudy but get your [ __ ] [ __ ] together I’m sorry put him in DLo and let’s get on to [ __ ] the big

Meow oh my gosh I’m over talking about this team you’re over it I’m over it tonight like oh man we we need to regroup because we play the Hornets on Monday yeah let’s regroup as a team as a community let’s just like forget about this game uh the big meow the cat purr

The size 20 feet himself with 10 toes down Carl Anthony towns 35 minutes 19 points sounds good on paper however four for 10 shots that’s even worse than ant uh in my opinion one for four from three is the best shooting big of all time that’s even more atrocious and

Embarrassing yeah he got 10 for 10 free throws that’s awesome that’s the bulk of his points by the way um I just want to say and he got 11 rebounds by the way were you watching the game or am I blind he was like actively like disrupting

Rebounds from other players uh for like most of the game including Rudy and including other players and it even made him slow to you know run back in transition he fouls out in this game and I thought most of his drives were stopped before they were shots like

That’s embarrassing when the team isn’t the the opposition isn’t as big as him I I struggle I I I struggle to care I struggle to kind of defend when he has games like this I while it looks good on paper right a double double it’s just a

Paper it’s just a stat it’s it’s not what I think the pulse of the game needed this game needed someone to take over the game and we had Nas for a moment we had Jaden in the beginning and then we had really no one else right no

One else came to play and it was really sad he started getting to the line driving to the bucket when it was shett was sitting and it was their backup big in you can’t stop driving to the bucket especially when we’re in the bonus because none of them little

[ __ ] can guard him in the pain especially if he’s driving and I I like what um Nick said he said are these rankings only about offense tonight we played OK defense but y’all are woing everyone our identity as a team is defense we can’t play okay defense and

Expect to win games we need to play the elite defense that we are currently known for that is why we are woing people I love this comment LeBron will miss one out of three Jimmy Butler would miss one out of three Gerald comes back and says hi turnovers are consequence of getting him

The Reps he needs people need to worry uh less about the 22y old and look elsewhere I I I want to agree with that commentary I think we need to put him in better positions to address these these issues um and I think a lot of it is

Just just sheer getting him off the ball to get the ball into a scoring position rather than him having to reassess the defense and and ISO the ball and takes 10 seconds off the shot clock we need to move the ball we need to move him to get

To an open spot when we pass him the ball you know I think we do lot less of that um Noah Noah Noah said it best I think if ant just gets better ball security that alone will cut down turnovers and help him create space without extending extra energy to do so

Also if he has better ball security and he starts to with that ball security see the floor better it’s going to help with his passing and a lot of his turnovers come off of bad passes because he’s not making the pr the right read or the best

Read and he’s throwing cross front of the bucket where there’s three Defenders so yeah Edward’s got to work on the handle this summer he can work on the handle currently in this in the season and fix it and I mean yeah it’s crazy he’s only

2022 this is year four or he’s only 22 this is year four yeah like I don’t know um but yeah so that’s the tier list that’s tier list I I I just made big big head cat for reasons unknown um I actually don’t know where we landed on

Him um I’m kind of sick of talking about him as you were saying let’s get on and over with this game um yeah but um yeah let’s just kind of put him in DLo where I think he belonged even despite his stats kind of looking okay uh it’s not

Okay for our all our potential Allstar uh which I by the way Tonight is the last night to vote uh what a night to vote um uh your your Allstar hopeful Superstar bricks three free throws at the end of the game and Cat you know follows himself out and Rudy goar who’s

Like efficiency King goes one for six from three so vote three times on a loss uh that tonight’s your last time um cool nailed at Mason all right so we’re at we have got the Hornets at home on Monday yep we have we’re at the Wizards on the

24th um we are at the Nets on the 25th so we have a excuse me a backtack in DC in Brooklyn then we are at the Spurs on the 27th we are at KC on the 29th and we are home against the Mavericks to end January that is our next six games okay

Realistically we should go five of six we have the potential to go oh of six because this is the Minnesota Timberwolves I am not putting that in the atmosphere though I honestly think that we’re going to beat the Hornets we’re going to beat the Wizards I don’t

Think the Nets can beat us we’re going to beat the Spurs we’re going to get our lick back on the Thunder and Dallas is Dallas we could lose to them we could win to them I think that’s the toss up sure you know what I love that we get to close out

This month with some real tests right Dallas and OKC um I think we need more tests like this like this is going to make us a stronger team losing like this I hope we rebound and Absolut destroy whoever our next opponent say but look at that we’re one game from you know OKC

Taking over the West which is such a crazy experience um to witness both us at the top as well as OKC down our you know throats right so sorry for having to leave and exit rejoin the stream um but uh thank you guys as always for joining us and

Sabrina for you to join us as well um on a moment’s notice you’re there you cancel all plans it’s great um uh 50 wins is still possible yeah 52 wins is maybe in our sites but I don’t I know like uh what what what were we what were

We uh in the 0304 season I think we were 59 I think 59 wins um so this was 60 wins would be probably you know historic it would be like the top franchise record of the NBA of our of our in lineage as a team um so they’d be pretty

Crazy to see uh that’s what at least that’s what we’re like seeing in terms of 30 and 12 if we duplicated that we’d be 60 wins so that’s pretty crazy so um and yet we are talking about our team like this on a game like tonight it is

It is just facts from us like I I like it’s hashtag analysis it’s not like deep analysis it’s like right after the game what are our thoughts but like our refined thoughts would be like this is not just a blip this has kind of been a trend our Seasons like our season like

Roster composition has had holes in it since its Inception right um wow c i uh I think what what were we the the Clippers playin season were we it was 40 what was it 45 yeah some something like that like 45 44 and something we were basically neck

And neck with the Clippers and we uh had Beverly and ant yeah I I was at that playin game and honestly I think if we can go and we can match that um when till I think we’ll be okay I I I I don’t think I don’t think anybody under the

Clippers would be will be able to catch us honestly oh so cool I I’m predicting I mean I would love to finish as a one seed but I am predicting we finish top four as I have since the beginning of the season so nice nice nice well when

We got Rudy Gober I definitely predicted ourselves ourselves to get 70 wins that was a mistake but um we’ll see if this year Bears more fruit there in that regard hey Sabrina thank you so much for joining us that I must I hope that was fun for you you know a actually it

Probably was miserable uh it was miserable for me too I don’t like talking bad about our team yeah I don’t right it’s hard because like we’ve been doing so well and we kind of are the blemishes of our season we’ve been kind of Curbing and putting resting aside for

When a moment like tonight when I think we could have complet completely just blown out this team they were not playing their best you know Shay was a shell of himself in the second half until like late game and like you know ant played half F like honestly and Cat

Wasn’t aggressively trying to find himself open in the game he was not playing to the best of abilities and those are our two STS like those are the two players that need to be getting the 60 points a game and that’s not happening on a regular basis we win

Fundamentally most of the time we got to 30 wins based on our defense and so let’s see if this will carry us into the next season especially at least into the allar break as you said through the rest of this month we have big tests coming up against OKC again and Dallas let’s

See if we can close this month out strong I can’t wait to join you guys for the next show um and whoa Cameron my friend it is it is like it’s all eban flow when we win we’re a high when we lose we got to trade the team and fold

The franchise and move to Seattle well that’s what I did we’re not moving to Seattle the Timberwolves are in Minnesota for life Wow sounded so enthusiastic I I’m not even gonna cam you should know better come on I missed something cron that so nice of you thank

You so much for joining us and doing that it’s uh we just give it back to you guys anyways we’ll be doing our hashtag giveaways when we get to a thousand and other Milestones as well and key games like um you know um Pat Bev night or

Something you know I don’t know kg Jersy retirement night the Pelicans are not beating us in the playoffs they’re not beating us in the playoffs Zion’s not gonna get the whistle he does in the regular season and bi ghosts when he’s in the playoffs they’re not beating

Us if the Wolves move to Seattle I’m moving to Minnesota Cameron go to bed well let’s uh let’s um let’s all go to bed how about that yeah let’s go to bed it’s uh Saturday night we got better things to do like play Call of Duty anyways hey I hope you guys

Have a good night uh thank you so much for joining us nightbot says uh subscribe and join the show otherwise cat’s gonna do something stupid as he does every game um Gerald that’s not entirely true we’ve beaten plenty teams this season with full starting rosters wait car lives in Seattle

Cron join our Discord let’s let’s uh let’s uh chat because I also live in Seattle Cameron also lives in Seattle oh boy here we go there’s let’s share a selfie together my friend or if you don’t want to that’s fine too because we’re just random dudes on on your screen right

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