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Refs And Another 2nd Half Collapse Dooms Bulls In Loss Too Suns



Refs And Another 2nd Half Collapse Dooms Bulls In Loss Too Suns

You found yourself on another episode of Locked on bulls on today’s episode me and Pat are going to talk about the Bulls suffering yet another collapse in the second half against the Phoenix Suns we’re also going to ask what the heck were the refs on tonight and the last

Play by Billy Donovan did he call a good one did he not call a good one we’re GNA get into all and more right after this you are lockon bulls your daily podcast on the Chicago Bulls part of the locked on podcast now Network your team every Day thank you for tuning in locked on bull bulls member of the locked on podcast Network where’s your team every single day that’s Pat the designer host and creator of the the windy city Breeze and host of the Chicago Bears podcast over at ESPN 1000 I’m Hayes host and

Creator of Chicago Bulls and Chicago Bears Central and today’s episode is brought to you by FanDuel make every moment more right now new customers get 150 in bonus bets guaranteed when you place a $5 bet visit fanduel.com lockon to get started oh Pat man the Bulls sure know

Every single time how to rain how how to how to how to build us up only to knock us back down how to H to how to how to bro it’s just it sucks bro it just such a good first half really good first quarter by

The bulls the bulls end up going out going in by double digits in in the in the in the first half and then the second half of the game you just immediately got that feeling that hey this Phoenix Sun team wasn’t going to go away Eubanks comes in and completely

Changes the energy of the game Kevin Durant comes down and and he of just you know go being the superstar that he is scoring 43 points I believe in this game and the Bulls just did not have ANW now they still were in a position to try to

Tie it or maybe even win the game there were some questionable calls questionable uh play calls as well from Billy Donovan which we’ll talk about but just overall the the loss and how the Bulls started off this game how you feeling brother I mean listen it the

Bulls lost this game in a game of numbers to me uh I said that coming in right in the second half defense was was poor and that there was a lot of things that the Bulls could have done that they just didn’t right but at the end of the

Day to me I watched a team that in the second half of this game was outnumbered as far as star players that could score the basketball was outnumbered as far as abil or uh places where they could go out there and score the basketball bull shot 29% from the three-point line in the

Second half the Phoenix Sun shot 55 when you lose moments like that when you lose in areas like that and on top of that on the other side of course the referees there’s some cap going on there was some chicanery tonight boys there was some chicanery and we’ll talk about

That but when you lose it so many of those things and you’re turning the ball over and your defense starts to lag you’re GNA lose games like that and I don’t care how big the lead is you will find a way to lose games when you have Kevin Durant on the other

Side you will find a way to lose games when you have Bradley Bill on the other side dein Booker on the other side when you just can’t come out and win the math problem and I think that’s the problem with this Bulls team as a whole right

Like we see games like this and we’re like how did they end up losing this game and it’s like well if you can’t compete from the three-point line that means you have to be perfect at everything else because that’s a team over there that can absolutely compete

From the three-point line line and they do a pretty good job of doing it I I don’t know that that was a tough that was a tough loss it was a gut Punch Yeah I mean and I don’t want to make it seem like the Bulls played terribly

Throughout the whole game they just didn’t execute well in the second half of the game and you know Kobe made some big shots he stepped up in moments everybody kind of had their moment in this game this is one of those games where just about everybody had had a

Play or something that they did to impact the game especially in that first half the Bulls just didn’t have enough man they didn’t and and to your point you know in the in the first half of the game the Phoenix Suns shot terribly from three-point range and you always knew

That they were going to shoot better coming out of the second half of this game or if they didn’t then the Bulls just going to you know they were definitely going to reap that reward but that math problem from the Bulls still persist and it’s always going to be a

Thing there because we just don’t play a modern type of offense even with the bulls moving the ball around more we just don’t have the shooters to space the floor like we need to the suns were three of 14 in the first half of this game from three-point range second half

11 of 20 yeah and guess what and and you won the math problem in the first half they were three for 14 they were trying to knock down the mid-range shots that they always do trying to get KD going Bulls did a really good job defensively and

Guess what the Bulls were in the first half nine for 20 yeah that makes a difference that makes a very big difference and you just don’t have you you don’t have a modern enough team I’m not going to lie to you right like the whole trade thing with Zack LaVine

Coming in and if the Bulls do trade to Mar just trade for dudes to shoot at this point like like that’s really what I want to see come back like I want to see a team that when I pass the ball to somebody on the three-point

Line it’s like oh y’all crazy to leave him open we have nobody on this team like that how much do you think because they brought they presented this in the chat over on Central on my postgame show swapping a player like demard Rosen for a player like Bruce Brown how much do

You think that would change this Bull’s offense down the stretch what’s Bruce Brown shooting from three this year uh Bruce Brown is a nice player but I feel like Bruce Brown operates in a lot of similar spaces to Demar de rozan like it’s a younger no it’s not is not as

Good as Demar as far as history and eliteness from mid-range but I feel like we would be trading a guy to get a guy that operates in the same spaces I’m talking about spot up Shooters yeah uh and Bruce Brown is shooting the ball absolutely terrible

From three this year 20% so yeah let’s let’s not worry about that no and it’s it’s not to say I wouldn’t like a guy like Bruce Brown on my team but I just think it’s clear what the Bulls need right like you can’t win the math game

Right now you if you can’t beat math you’re not going to beat basketball players like you’re getting outscored because you’re trying to swap two for three and that’s never going to win especially going up against so many teams that have Elite Shooters it the second half of this game came down to

One name Kevin Durant yep the second half of this game came down to Kevin Durant and of course at the end of the game there’s some there’s some wild with the refs I have some concerns and like I said we’ll talk about that but like the second half of this game came

Down to there was a star player on the other side that can knock down threes and you had Patrick Williams and Alex Caruso to try and slow him down and I can deal with the Alex kuso aspect of it my god Patrick Williams how about you

Wake up on a defensive shift a little bit how about we focus up a little bit here you’re not much more than a role player you got to at least Play Your Role well he played pretty solid defense in the first half that second half it was

Like he was like oh crap KD got G oh crap KD’s getting hot oh c crap KD’s hot what do I do what do I do what do I do Alice Caruso’s in foul trouble I don’t know what to do come on I mean and just understand in a moment I thought Stacy

King calling him out was was very appr propo from from last year I I really did like or from from this game because that last shot KD knocks down to make it 115 113 out of bulls would go on to to score um oh no we didn’t we a end

Up scoring that bucket never mind uh the the Bulls would go down on the other end uh to try and get a bucket but like when you look at that last bucket like Devin Booker is at the top of the key why would Kevin Durant pass out in that

Situation at 1.6 at a minimum you don’t let Kevin Durant beat you it’s not like he’s not pretty good at shooting the mid-range jump shot he’s only one of the best in the NBA yeah I mean so it’s like knowing the moment I think that there’s

A lot that we could look at with Billy Donovan as well and and take some issue with but there’s just two there’s too many moments where the Bulls have to be too perfect because they’re losing at math in other areas take it from somebody who was not good at math I we

Just had experience of that before we started going live he was like Hey I can’t do I’m not going to do math let’s just start the show bro that L literally hey I was addition too I was trying to add up how many views but you

Know when you got that many views baby sometimes it’s hard to put all them big numbers together you saying he me okay don’t worry about no no I see I see what you miss the T chains on today too my brother that’s that’s it is

What it is man my boy got on the Bulls jacket the locked on t-shirt what hat is that this the hat from last night this the one they gave away oh okay that’s okay it’s actually a really nice hat it is really nice hat it looks like it’s

Quality to it’s it’s a good quality hat I’m not gonna lie to you little strapback though I’m more of a snapback guy I don’t like the I’m not a strapback guy I can’t say the joke that I want to un locked on so we’re going to move right along um

Was that crazy that was a little crazy bro the emphasis that you put on it made it slightly crazy bro slightly crazy what else was crazy today was the game called by the referees and me and Pat are going to talk about that a little

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Allen it it would have tied every no the Bulls would have been up 111 and 109 at that point it takes us down to B time 109 all uh how how much do you think that really changed the outcome of the game I think it’s massive I think it’s a

That’s a huge call um because the Bulls would have been up three it changes how they go out there and attack you and and now you’re playing with a uh not the very big assumption there right because it would have been 111 109 at that point right uh I’m assuming demard R Roa

Knocks down the free throw um but you’re talking about 112 109 at that point that changes how they attack you that changes how you go down on the other end now where the Bull’s going to end up losing that little bit of uh the lead as well

Maybe but I’ll tell you what that would have been a huge momentum shift uh kudos to Grayson Allen uh and D It’s Crazy to even say that but but to get dear on that call um to and have them review it but the basket should have counted it was clear-cut to me that

That basket should count ball is released the fouls after the play it’s an offensive foul like how’s that basket not count so I I mean listen the the the NBA refs are I mean if if the NFL didn’t exist you’re talking about the worst refs in the world

Like the fact that you’re top two is not good and this is something that’s been consistent throughout the season there’s clear favoritism at times there’s clear just blatant disregard for what the actual rules of basketball are I I mean like I I don’t know what to say about

The NBA refs they I I think that now more than ever before you feel the entertainment aspect of basketball where they say say they’re going to call the game to make the game entertaining because in that second half as a whole it was just like hey bro this

A lot of free throws for Phoenix what’s going on here like like there’s there’s a lot of fou calls coming coming their way like this this feels very one-sided here and I I I just I don’t know man like how many times are we gonna have to have this conversation about refs how

Many times are we are we going to sit here and talk about you know what what the referees or how they’re impacting the game like I I I it’s too often for the NBA to just continue to do nothing yeah yeah it’s def I mean in the

First half you look at the free throw discrepancy it was 12 free throws for the Phoenix Suns only two for the Chicago Bulls in the first half of this game second half it kind of flips some 12 free throws for the Bulls in the second half of this game five for the

Phoenix Suns but outside of that right even just the ticky tacky fouls that don’t necessarily result in free throws that it felt very heavily leaning towards the Phoenix Suns down the stretch of this game for sure well listen the Phoenix Suns have Kevin Durant the Phoenix Suns have Devin

Booker and the Phoenix Suns have Bradley Bal guess what you you don’t win the Star Battle you lost that math too you know what happens with stars stars get CS we benefited from it for 10 years benefited from it a little bit with Derrick Rose tootime oh absolutely

Me there was times der was like dunking on dudes and it was like off or defensive foul and it was like what’s he really supposed to do there like he just got dunked on how how how’s he going to get out the way at at you can do all things through our

Lord and Savior Jesus Christ that’s that’s all I got to say no I just I I I look at the the the the refs in in the NBA as a whole and I just I I I’m not a fan of how the game is being called it’s being called for

Entertainment purposes you clearly can see it they want STS to get the calls and the thing is is that you would think that the NBA would have gotten this together after last year where literally the whole conversation around Sports wasn’t just Bulls fans it wasn’t just it

Was literally every team every fan base ESPN TNT everybody talked about how bad the officiating was so consistently last season now I’ll say this it’s still been bad this season it hasn’t been as consistent where every single night every single big game you’re like hey the rest were tripping but it’s still

Enough that you got to got to start looking at it to do to reain it in some if you’re the NBA you got to do something about it because it’s just it’s it is like I know you say for entertainment purposes and I do understand what you mean by that but

It’s not entertaining and people are getting tired of it well I think that’s the thing right it it’s entertaining for the top teams this was a fun game to watch yeah that’s that’s true as well it was a fun game to watch you know what

Wasn’t fun for the the rest of the world watching the Phoenix Suns get their heads kicked in by the Chicago Bulls yeah I mean like that’s that’s that’s what I mean by the entertain we know what the there’s a certain aspect of the game and and I think that’s the

Advantage to going out and getting Stars if you sit there and you talk about you’re G to get a star player and you’re the advantage to having stars is you’re going to get calls the advantage to having stars is stars go to the free throw line you don’t have stars on this

Team Demar rosen’s old Kobe White’s young niik lavich ain’t been a star in yeah five years at this point and and Zack la they never considered him a star like I get it he’s an Allstar and he makes the makes the All-Star team but they’ve never the NBA has never

Considered him a draw the NBA has never considered him somebody that we can sit here and monetize around and so what happens Zack LaVine doesn’t get those calls the teams that get those calls Kevin Durant on those teams LeBron James on those teams Stephen Curry’s on those teams Z LaVine

Can’t even get a call for somebody to want trade him he’s definitely not getting calls on the basketball court like knew it was coming it was a well done well set up was pretty good pretty nicely listen I’m not going to give you a th I’ll give you 500 points for that

That’s fair that’s fair it it was too easy of a joke to get the full thousand I’ll take the 500 points was 500 points it was pretty good though um yeah I mean it it’s tough and it sucks but that’s crazy that was insane um

It sucks as fans to watch a game do be be officiated like that it does especially when you’re fans of the team without the stars and I think that’s the part that’s very irritating for most fans right that’s why you see guys up in t think about the teams we always seen going

Off bulls fans Toronto fans um trying to think magic fans I mean Houston fans I mean like I mean listen listen to their credit the the Brooklyn NS and Sacramento King fan base were going off a lot last year too and their teams were winning at times so yeah but

It’s still there’s no stars on those teams like Sacramento kind of fox not a star we’re not Fox a star I think he’s a star at this point I think I think Daren Fox at this point is a star and I think you’re seeing him get a lot more of

Those calls this year too okay I think that playoff run last year where you’re going head up against the Warriors was kind of like oh okay all right well all right maybe maybe he maybe he’s that guy maybe maybe we need to give him a little

Bit more respect I think that might have been his sort of like how we had with here here with Derek right like Derek didn’t get those calls until the Boston series after the Boston series that is the absolute fact after the Boston series Derek got those calls yeah

Because Derrick Rose was one of the best point guards in the NBA remember he went on that uh tour where he was ethering all the point guards BR that was one of that was one of the most fun times cuz it was literally it was like he had

CP3 and uh uh dang who’s the dude who went to Illinois now3 he had Tony Parker he had d uh Don Williams Williams that’s it was the battles between him and Russ yeah Russ on that one he he did cook Hey Russ was going at that boy

Though no Russ Russ went on went after him the MVP year but the year before the MP MV MVP year D cooked him both so but it’s it’s just like the all of a sudden right in I remember in that stretch like we were getting those calls Jerick was

Getting those calls but you was just like dang it I appreciate that appreciate that ref like that’s does it suck yes is that who the NBA is yes and also Mori Mills it wow crazy insane AC Zion Williamson and porn stars Stephen A said

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Like also got to talk about Billy Donovan’s lack of calling timeouts to stop momentum like he just does not care he doesn’t care but then so the Bulls are down by two there’s one point six seconds left on the clock they run an inbounds play the inbounds is a lob to Patrick

Williams and then that gets a foul call not on the shots before he touch the ball so we get the 1.6 seconds back we can run a play um that ends up in being demard Rosen double covered at the three-point line uh what do you make of those two play

Calls p uh both of them are bad and and I get I I heard you over on Chicago B Central saying at least it was different it showed a little bit of creativity yeah that’s all I gave it I didn’t say it was good I just said say different

Different don’t mean good different don’t mean I just said it was different like it was different and there’s so here’s the thing one who do we think P will is that he’s the one that we’re going to send up there to go get that ball and and be

Able to tip in it like I’m not gonna lie I’d have loved for you to put Andre Drummond back on the floor if that’s the play to wiard looking to run like see I think I think I think the goal wasn’t necessarily think that the tip in was

Going to go in I do think that was designed to try to get to the foul line and Patrick Williams is a much better free throw shooter I just yeah but like even in a situation like that here my problem with with what you did there you’re calling plays to not make

The basket like that’s always what a tipin feels like unless you just have a dude that’s like Giannis yeah or you have a Anthony Davis on your team right somebody that is like Hey listen he can go up and get it and twoand jam that mug

Down and you know exactly what that guy does because he does that on every play like literally the defender in the back back of his mind is going and he might sneak behind me and dunked his basketball so I have to worry about that as well as popping out I’m not worried

About that with P will and and I get it right like that’s kind of why you want to utilize that but it didn’t feel like that pass was to try and get P will the ball it did feel like it was to do exactly what you said the get fouled get

To the free throw line knock down too why hey why can’t we just drop a play to win the game why can’t we just drop I see but that’s still a play the the the the fact is the point is is to put points on the board and you want to put

Yourself in the most high percentage spots to do that a lob and a three-point shot from DeMar aren’t going to like as far as trying to make the dunk it getting yourself into a position to get to the free throw line it’s going to be way more high percentage than anything

Else you’re going to get at that point with that Personnel out there on the court I mean I I hear you but at the same time you’re calling a play to try and get to the line versus calling a play to try and actually just make make

A bucket it feels like you don’t have a play in your playbook that you can call for somebody to just score a basket but that’s you don’t have a call in your playbook with 1.6 seconds left to get Kobe white an open look you don’t have a call in your

Playbook with 1.6 seconds left to heck get Patrick Williams an open three-point shot or get Patrick Williams something where he’s diving to the basket and people get stuck on screen like you don’t have and we’ve talked about this Billy Donovan he’s he’s terrible at out of balance calls out of inbalance play

Calls are terrible a lot of times the players are terrible at executing them I can guarantee you a one-legged turnaround Fade Away was not the shot Billy Donovan probably had drawn up but that’s the shot Demar went with do you practice that shot that’s but that’s the

Only shot that was there like and but see that goes back to the thing and that’s why I did give Billy Donovan credit for trying to get more creative because once that happened everybody knew where the ball was going to go it would every look you saw there were two

Players in the third were coming over to demard Rosen everybody knew where it was going to go yeah and and that’s we never use that to our advantage you I mean like like let’s be like bro let’s be real right the Grayson Allen I and here’s to his credit the

Getting the ball in I want to say 20 seconds left getting the ball in to Demar he’s one onone download Grayson Allen turn around pull up midi bucket love that everybody in the building knew you were throwing that basketball to dear and while I I I know all the clutch numbers for

Demar we ain’t seen that in a while in game-winning shot situations the last game-winning shot situation where he knocked that ball knocked that shot down we talking about two years ago when uh uh uh uh when he was on his Wilt run if I’m not mistaken I don’t believe

He’s got a game-winning shot since then he has some game tying shots for sure for sure for sure I I don’t know the game-winning shots off the top of my head and it’s not even to say that you can’t go to Dear in those situations but

To me it’s like everybody knew you were going to Demar the entire defense followed Demar why not throw it to the dudes that should be on the other side of the court but for some reason all bunched up right by Demar as well like it’s just it it goes to what we’ve

Continued to say on a just complete lack of creativity in an out of bounds play to get yourself a good look at a shot I mean I can’t argue that I can’t argue like but the thing like I said before like I think that we

You over analyze that it has to just be a shot at the end of the day you’re making a you’re trying to make the play that’s going to win or or at least put you in the overtime so I I can’t I can’t call or have an issue with the law play

That last play to Demar though everything that you said is 100% correct like there was no intricacies to it there was it was L it was I said it on the live stream it was literally Luke gatsy calling a basketball player it was Luke gatsy on his third screen yeah

Third screen that’s it yeah I don’t know bro that was that was I think that was a gut punch way to end the game uh especially a game that you had played so well especially a game that I just I don’t get not going to any of your hot

Hands um Kobe white played extremely well in that fourth quarter extremely well I I thought that you know he was a he was a very big reason why you’re in this game at all I mean as far as Shooters are going uh in the fourth quarter Kobe white didn’t miss a

Shot why can’t we go to him then like at what point do we just say hey maybe we give this guy a chance to see if he can knock down a shot when Demar de Rosen is off the team and listen that’s a conversation like you’re losing numbers games you

Should have won this game you didn’t play well enough defensively down the stretch F but you should have won this game you should have been able to knock down enough shots to win this game got out score 67 to 44 in the second half you need

Scores you need and I think you have a really good one in Kobe white I I like the vets that we have on this team some of them may need to be you um be moved away uh but you know what AC Javon Carter is not I don’t count him as a vet

I like on this team uh okay well that’s fair that’s fair listen listen that that’s a vet I don’t like that’s the V I don’t like um but yeah I mean like Tory Craig Alice Caruso those guys bring the right mindset V gives you the skill set

Um I I think there’s some good vets on this team to mix with your young guys you got to move off of the the Zack LaVine and demard de R roen tandem because to me you can get back at a minimum get back guys that can knock down the three ball consistently

Continue to come into the modern NBA like we’ve gotten partially there we just got to finish the journey that comes with Shooters let’s also stop drafting young guys that can’t shoot because if I see dalen Terry take that broke jump shot in the corner one

More time I’m going to lose it did you see that kid on Twitter yesterday had to be in like a fifth or sixth grade game and he tried to dunk the basketball and just threw it off the side of the rim that’s dalen Terry every play D said leave him alone leave him

Alone hey dalen leave that shot alone how about that we don’t disagree with we don’t disagree on that dalen Terry is like uh he just I want better for dalen I really do want I love Dal I love the energy um hey drum next time you call somebody out

Maybe back it up a little bit and don’t let Dal hype your head up cuz you got to back it up a little bit did you just tell them to back it up a little bit come on let’s let’s back up out this show bro it’s done every time we do a

Late show we get to tripping we already gonna be here at two o’clock in the morning on Thursday let’s get up out of here bro follow me on everything at P designer you can follow us both on everything at lockon bulls and uh y y’all stay safe Chicago pass out here telling people

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22 Comments

  1. The basket didn’t count because Derozan initiated the contact while both of them were still up in the air. Instead of talking about the game you’re complaining bout refs. Talk about what needs to be done to get the team into the next level.

  2. If you think the NBA was "entertainment"…..it's going to be that and more when the refs call crazy fouls on the Bulls and the Lakers get to the FT line.

  3. There were a couple of issues in the second half. First thing is we stopped moving the ball like we did in the first half. Second, our team defense was not as strong and we kept leaving the wrong shooter open. Last, the refs were on some bs!

  4. So you guys really entertaining trading Demar for Bruce Brown?….We NEED to have a killer on our team that can always create their own shot. Thats Zach and thats Demar. Anybody saying we need to trade both for role players and picks are insane. We lost because of Durant period. A player that can takeover a game.

  5. Something I’d like to see next season if Demar doesn’t resign and we still don’t have the size we need on the team is either Craig or Dalen moving to the 3 spot in the lineup.
    If we’re really going to continue to run players 6’7 & under we at least need 2 tall players in the FC with Vooch.

  6. The suns took this game and won it. Bulls fell apart. Kd is so damm good too. Like wow. But let's be real. Refs didn't have shit to do with us losing. So stop it.

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