Is Kevin Durant Being Overlooked in the GOAT Debate? | Off Guard With Austin Rivers

Is Kevin Durant Being Overlooked in the GOAT Debate? | Off Guard With Austin Rivers

You talked about the Suns I want to get into it KD 40 points last night no free throw attempts and then he had a comment where he said how how come I’m not considered one of the goats because you know obviously because I went to the Warriors so I’m just not considered you

Know one of the best he’s like what haven’t I accomplished a chip by yourself would be a start that’s the only thing he has everything else right but you have put Katie in your top 10 he he’s one of the greatest players ever played the game I don’t know who doesn’t

Put him in there I mean Katie’s in there for me there’s just there’s a log Jam right like we always talk about it there’s 15 guys should be there’s one thing that that that that that people harp on with Katie and that’s it people don’t like that he

Left and went to Golden State that’s it we don’t have to like dive too deep into this if we talking about his offensive ability he’s like top five we’re talking about him as a scorer he’ll probably end up being top five I think he’s already

Close I don’t know what he is like top 10 right now I time he retires this at 40 last night how old is he he’s like 30 36 well he’s 36 years old hitting out 40 pieces n Smith’s like 22 like giving him it his all guarding

Him he’s just backing him down turn away fat ever just giving the whole team 40 no free throws he’s 36 he’s one of the greatest players to ever play in the NBA and when earlier this year when I had a top 10 players of all time and I put Kevin Durant in there

People looked at me crazy including you you guys were like whoa whoa whoa I’m like bro look at this guy has done everything in the NBA from the standpoint point and he’s 35 years old by the way he’s done everything you could possibly do as a player and he’s

Done everything to solidify himself not only as a Hall of Famer that’s already been he achieved that probably like eight years ago but like him in terms of him being an all-time great he’s done that too if you’re asking or if you want to answer that question though of what

Puts him in that top tier in terms of we talking about goats he’s got to win a couple more titles right it’s even like it’s when people say like oh Kobe Bryant’s first titles don’t count cuz he had Shaquille on his team then he went and got some by

Himself right right and oh LeBron’s titles with the heat don’t matter but then you know what man that 2016 title felt like three titles and and then he went one with LA and those titles only validated the ones that he won with the group CU now they’re like okay it’s not

Just cuz he won that this guy’s a winner yeah he won if Kevin Durant were to win one just one without this Warriors team even though he has but first off this whole thing like where like people are like they don’t count he had this every

Great team that wins has help yeah what the are you talking about tell give me a championship team that’s won where there hasn’t been more than one star right I think I think what people complain about though is if you line up all of the players that he’s played with

All the allstars that he’s played with maybe two titles is a little low but that that’s that’s only because he’s bounced around from different teams and again that goes against him yeah Brooklyn situation goes against him uh this you know the sun situation hasn’t worked out great so far we’ll see we’ll

See this postseason if he’s able to win one title I think it would validate what he did in Golden State more yeah is that fair no he was the best player for the for the Warriors he was yeah and we talked about it they probably don’t win those titles without

They don’t right they don’t he made that team unbeatable yeah when he was there the best team i’ I’ve ever seen they are the I think they’re the best team ever in the NBA history that Warriors team after going what they win 70 what they

Wi 73 they were 73 and N lost in 2016 here say that out loud these won 73 games bro and lost nine times it’s a nuts man like just from a guy who played the NBA for 11 years it’s like unheard of to win that many games right 73 and n

And then to go grab him Kevin Durant who was the best score at the time probably still play in the NBA at that time he was the second best play in the NBA right behind LeBron they went and grabbed him they were unbeatable man when we used to play that Team bro we

Had to play perfect to be in the game to be in the game we had to be having a hell of a night guy has 18 he has 16 I got 15 James has 40 this guy has just to be in the game yeah do you

Know what I mean like that team was if Klay Thompson or Draymond Green your fourth best player on the team that’s a really good Draymond was definitely the fourth best player he’s not better than clay just give I given night but yeah they were that’s just insane man like

That te was 73 and 19 by the way half the year people forget that Luke Walton was the coach right Steve C was out yeah anybody could listen that team man Mike Brown coached I think at one point during that St he was like 25-0 or

25-1 and then he’s a good coach but Luke Walton was 24-0 Kerr was I mean that team was so good I don’t even know if they needed a coach yeah um you know they the it’s the best team ever was that Warriors team with Kevin Durant on

It um and that’s because he made it that way and people like lose that I know he joined the team that beat him strike one that’s where he really started to lose people right he left Russell his partner in crime strike two people really hated that and then he went to the Warriors

And not only did he play well but he did what nobody wanted to happen they won and they were really good and they would have won a third time if he didn’t what he tear his and Klay Thompson tore his ACL worst case scenario for a franchise

Is to have your two star players two of your fourstar players tear vital vital parts of your body yeah you know what I mean out otherwise they smack that Raptor team no offense I love that Raptor team but y’all ain’t beating Kevin Durant and Klay Thompson team that

Series went went five games I think they really would have swept they might have won one game W five games got won in Toronto um but you know it it it it it uh it definitely clouds it because then what happens is with Kevin when he asks

That question well what what do I have to do brother the guys we’re comparing you to are guys that never even left their team once good or bad Kobe was a Lakers his whole time talking about Michael was a bull well I count the Wizards when he came back

They won their championships there uh who else Steph Curry right there Steph Curry these are all the guys in his area in the top 10 so when we’re talking about the top these guys are like they didn’t move they didn’t have to go somewhere to to win they just stayed put

And like they won or they like accumulated that talent to them where like it seems like Katie’s like a mercenary for higher this is this is a guy who can score the ball at a at a level that we’ve never seen before and it that’s kind of what it comes across

He he was a guy that was in OKC and had everything thing there then goes to okay then goes to Golden State then goes to to Brooklyn now he’s out by Phoenix and these are all teams that he kind of was like know that’s Devon’s team he went to

That was Steph’s team that he went to yeah Brooklyn I don’t know whose team that was Shawn marks that was all over the place but still you know so that’s that’s it these things go against him I’m not saying they’re valid or fair I’m also not saying that it’s wrong it’s

Just like that’s what’s out there yeah that’s what clouds people’s you know’s judgment when it comes down to KD there are things in the mixx that when you were comparing him to the goat goats that’s the stuff that is is held against him I also think people do this

Now while he’s playing and while he’s dropping 40 still you know 35 years old and everything like that I think once you’re retired and the dust settles I think people appreciate him more as maybe the greatest offensive player in NBA history you know what I mean and that’s when people start stop forgetting

About all the other stuff or they forget one or the other they do that about Kevin Durant bro you go ask a year-old right now like what were Dwayne Wade’s numbers he has no idea he just knows that’s this guy on Instagram with painted nails and a and a in a

Goddamn suit getting his jersey retired or statue like they don’t know about this guy has nothing to do with Dwayne Wade Dwayne Wade’s just not these kids don’t know yeah Kevin still in this era so they know bottom line is I I’ve had Kevin Durant and my top 10 players

Of all time people like crucified me for this when I did that by the way but when you look at his numbers and you look at the level of player he’s been consistently from the starting point of his career to now at 35 years years old dropping 40 last night there just hasn’t

Been a lot of guys who have been able to do that and there’s no doubt in my mind that he’s a top 10 player of all time give me an example of other 35y olds putting up the numbers Kevin Durant is I’ll wait it’s only a couple guys um

Maybe not even yeah you know you got braon and after that you’re like crawling for guys in terms of putting up the numbers KD’s putting up so that’s my argument with him also I get what individual greatness is why I put him in the top 10 he also has won

Championships and even though it was the Warriors team te wi not he he’s still shine brightest on the biggest stage and also he the Rookie of the Year the MVP he he he stretched out that run for the Warriors man like bro the Warriors went from being a really good team who won

Who won one to being a dynasty that that has to do with Kevin Durant does it hurt part of it they they won without that was that was another thing that’s another they won without him right after that too BR that last Warriors run is

Going to go down as one of I mean brother for them to come back after a t L’s clay step they’re down and then go win one in Boston with some nutty man yeah I mean that so you know that is that’s what goes against

Him man if if ktie didn’t go win in Phoenix bro it would mean it would only validate his time in in Golden state which I don’t think he has to for my eyes but I understand as you’re a fan of basketball you have these things right

You never won on your own team you went and joined the best team in the league and you won then you left that team still won without you and you haven’t won since that’s the argument that’s what’s against him everything else you can’t argue against the guy man he’s one

Of the greatest players ever play in the game again I have him top 10 all time I don’t care what anybody says Kevin Durant’s a top 10 player to ever touch a basketball I don’t give a what you want you just talked about could you imagine guys in the 80s seeing this

Go thr Kevin Durant in the 80s 90s early 2000s 70s 60s the guy would look like a alien yeah okay we we we here’s the thing this is the other thing I’ll tell you we’ve never seen a player like Kevin Durant ever other than him since

We tried to make other ones we tried to make aund of them we tried to make bulbo Kevin Durant he’s long and he’s tall can he shoot n Kevin Durant ain’t nobody Kevin Durant we haven’t seen a Kevin Durant since Kevin Durant or before Kevin Durant we have never seen a guy

His size with that level of guard skills we’ve seen guys who had some guard skills and had some capabilities yeah nothing in the realm of Kevin Durant especially if we’re talking shooting and tough shot making he’s a top 10 player of all time and he should be in the goat

Conversation I had you in there KD so don’t worry if you’re asking me what’s different like what’s putting you or the back end of that top 10 versus being in that that front five the front five it’s the obvious argument yeah winning on your own terms you know what I mean like

He’s and and the guys he’s going against it’s tough bro you’re going against KB dog you’re going to against you’re going against bean and and and and black cat Tim Duncan Tim Duncan like bro you’re going to against some thoroughbreds who won three four five championships on their own never left

Their City just same team bro right it’s just a different so do you have do you have him over Dirk you have him over Dirk I have him over Dirk yes I do I do have him over Dirk nosky I have Kevin Durant over Derk nosk Hakeem Alan I

Doan did has the two titles just like him has the MVP just like him I have K did it on his own I have Kevin to ran over okay I have a question he insists that he’s not seven feet tall you obviously been next to him he is 7 feet absolutely

Right Kevin if you’re listening I don’t know what you are I could just tell you you trying to like classify yourself as like a tall Wing it’s like brother you’re like 8T tall bro yeah 7 foot 610 611 his wingspan got to be over seven

He’s 7 foot man he’s a footer bro I don’t know why he’s against it he should be for it only makes him more Unique

Austin and Pausha discuss Kevin Durant’s recent impressive performances and his comments about being overlooked as a potential candidate for one of the greatest NBA players ever, why KD may have a point about being overlooked despite achieving everything he has in the league, and how he will be remembered when he is out of the league.

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