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This is how I do it John cares.com mailbag so let’s dive in Manny says do you think getting Gordon Hayward on a buyout would be a better fit than O’Shea brassette or even just for the team let’s add in Ed who uh says any possibility uh Bruce Brown makes his way
To the Celtics at the trade deadline or after the season lots of buyout trade stuff it a lot of names being thrown around I’m not sure that the Celtics are going to do much but they are in a position to do something right so I don’t know it’s I don’t think it’s going
To be that big so let’s get some of the rules out here with the buyouts and the trades you got to remember certain things I’m giving you I’m giving you the rules so you can kind of almost answer your own questions Gordon Hayward on a buyou no cannot be done Boston Celtics
Are over the second apron they cannot sign anybody that makes more than the mid-level exception before they got cut so a guy like Gordon Hayward who makes like 30 plus Mill whatever he makes uh it makes more than the mid-level which is 12.4 million when you when you’re
Thinking about can we get this guy if he’s bought out look up his salary is it more than 12.4 million then no the Boston Celtics cannot get that guy on a buyout if it’s less than then yes the Celtics are able if that player wants to
Come in and uh sign for the minimum right so that that’s possible Gordon Hayward no uh a couple of other guys that names are thrown out there that make more than 12.4 million no that’s the answer no uh when it comes to Bruce Brown he makes 20 plus million dollars
So it’s hard for Boston to trade for him you you’ve got to match Sal and Boston has to match him pretty closely you’re not going to get him at the trade deadline because you don’t have enough salary to go get him the only way to get him is to include one of
The rotation guys you’re not going to give up Al Horford you’re not going to give up uh any of the starters you’re certainly not going to go do that for Bruce Brown so during the season no Bruce Brown is not an option after the season hey maybe because it’s possible
Maybe sort of possibly that the Celtics will have to move one of their big salaries that’s a next summer issue I don’t want to get into it too much right now because they still are chasing a championship here and I don’t want to go too deep into it but to answer this
Particular question it’s possible that he gets moved Bruce Brown he could come to Boston if one of Boston’s other big salaries ends up getting moved over the summer we’ll see it’s going to be an interesting summer I don’t want to I don’t want to ruin the chase for a title
By getting into that so those are the rules Boston the another important rule if you’re doing fake trades you cannot send four guys out you can’t stack OA brassette uh Luke cornette Lamar Stevens sh maky look you know you can’t you can’t take four or five guys stack them up and send them
Out for one guy because the other team has to have the roster spots to accept that player to all those players so if you do four for one five for one you say it works in the trade machine the other team has to have five open roster spots
They can’t just take them and wave them they have to have the roster spots to accept those players have all those roster spots filled and then they wave them that’s how it works so you can’t do four and five for one deals right now that’s not possible
So it’s very limiting the Celtics are over the second apron right so they can’t they can’t do the buyout stuff they aren’t going to bring somebody in on like a flyer they’re not in a position to take uh whatever so it that’s that’s what that’s the limitations of the Boston Celtics face
Got it I’m sure there’ll be many more questions but I hope what I hope with that answer is is that if you have a lot of these things Brewing around your head or they come across the internet or on Twitter or wherever now you have these
Parameters so you can plug a bunch of different players in there but you know the rules now so keep that those rules in mind and this way you’ll know you can start telling people the same thing I just told you let’s get to Ed who says here’s a question about uh coaching
Helping Tatum and brown take a claim to being the best duo in the NBA is it possible after joic and Murray beat the that Joe moula Sam canel took the Jays aside and said that’s what stard Duos do and that they applied that to the win
Over the Mavs could they be a theme happening here and so it’s maybe I I don’t know what they said what what was said to those guys and I don’t know if they took it to heart I don’t know if those guys just on their own said there’s a Duo that’s doing it
Let’s let’s us do it or it’s just circumstance I don’t think a single game is going to make that much of a difference I don’t think they’re going to look at each other and be like oh Epiphany like Harps and sunbeams coming down out of the clouds I don’t think
That’s happening at all I I think first of all joic and Murray work because it’s a center guard Dynamic right they’re two very different players it’s not easy to switch between those players right if you’re guarding yic and you SW switch on to Murray you can get cooked if you’re if Murray’s guy
Switches to yic you’re definitely getting cooked joic is a big man who loves to pass and is one of the best passers we have ever seen regardless of position nevertheless best big man passer he is an incredible playmaker one of the best ever so that’s what makes this work it’s
Difficult to just say hey look at yic and Murray hey you guys just kind of do that stuff because the Celtics had these guys are are too ISO Wings tall ISO big strong wings that play more like they play better on their own than they do off of other people and
They’re they’re learning to get better at that and we’re seeing the best out of Jaylen Brown and I do think they need to start playing together better right they need to play off of each other better but we can’t just say hey play like the Warriors play like the Nuggets these
Aren’t it’s not Steph Curry and Klay Thompson it’s not joic and Murray that’s not who these guys are they’re Tatum and they’re brown and I think one thing that we you me I definitely do have to get into our heads is they Tatum and brown are not those other Duos they have to
Play differently they can play better together I still think there are pick and roll type of things that they can do even though the the the switchability between those two uh their two Defenders is is there and it’s difficult uh but there’s more that those two those two
Can do to play off of each other I think schematically this is the challenge for Joe Missoula and the coaching staff to figure out how to get these guys playing off of each other to create the mismatches but it’s with porzingis on the team with Dereck white on the team
There are other places you can go to get a two-man game that works with those guys I think the best way to maybe say like the how the guys work together is either one of them can run a pick and roll with porzingis either one of them
Can play off of Derek white and set a pick for Derek white or Drew holiday for that matter like that’s that’s where they’re interchangeable you can run the same play with different looks but kind of similar actions so we have to we have to adjust our expectations as much as
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Mailbag Aaron we’re going to put these together Aaron says sometimes I think this team’s IQ this shot IQ is really mediocre putting too much love on the three might come back and bite Us in the game against the Nuggets Tatum and brown kept putting up threes when they clearly
Know it’s not their day they have the physicality to rush to the paint and score but sadly didn’t make this decision Dicky Smith says I hope you can reflect on Joe moula mentality of stressing the importance of Threes again referencing the Denver game uh so I will say look obviously players can get
Caught up in shooting shots especially when they’re good looks and their looks that these guys know that they can make and I think sometimes if you’re a competitive person I’m a competitive person when there’s something that you know that you can do and it’s not going your
Way you the letting it go is the opposite of what happens right like how many times anybody that’s watching you are competitive and something goes wrong right two three times and you say how many times do you actually say ah I’m Gonna Leave it or do you sit there and
Get frustrated be like damn it no I know this works I’m going to do this I know I can make this work how many times have you done that that’s that’s what these guys do sometimes they get caught up in the I know I’m making the shot it feels good
Coming off my hands it feels good my legs are good my shot Everything feels good it’s a good look it’s a catch and shoot it’s a wide openen shot this is a shot I should be taking and making now sometimes you have all of that and it gets frustrating and the
Rims out and it’s just not your night I got it I’m not gonna kill guys for getting frustrated sometimes and trying to trying to make it work okay but I understand that you have to have the discipline to let that go but also Joe moula isn’t necessarily stressing
Three-pointers in the way you think he he is not sitting there with a big three on the on the uh the Whiteboard and saying guys remember we love three-pointers take as many of them as you possibly can no he wants the Celtics to run good offense take open shots and
Very often the good open shot is a three-pointer because when guys drive and kick and swing it gets into the hands of somebody who is open from three and those are good shots and there is math involved the math tells us that three is incredibly uh more valuable than two and
So yeah there is he does want three-pointers because the league wants three-pointers that’s how the league is going so I get that this whole thing oh my God I can’t believe Missoula is so focused on three-pointers like the whole damn NBA is so focused on three-pointers that’s
What the NBA is this is not unique to Joe Missoula this is not unique to the Celtics the whole damn League plays like this this is what NBA basketball is re-calibrate your expectations every team in the NBA minus teams that have absolute crappy shooters they’re going to all take 35 40 50
Sometimes three-pointers that’s how it goes and honestly most of the time the Celtics are taking good shots I hate to tell you that I know some people are frustrated but most of the time these guys are taking good shots I agree that sometimes they they maybe
Force it and I that’s a process that’s something that they have to work on but you also don’t want to tear down their confidence either because you need the confidence to keep shooting right think of Jason Tatum against Philly last year in game six where everybody was saying
Stop shooting threes stop what are you doing what are you doing what are you doing and then all of a sudden he gets on a freaking tear and he wins game six by himself that’s what the confidence in keep shooting keep shooting with confidence that’s what
Happens Greg says I’m vinced as long as Jason Tatum is the great Celtics best player they will not win a championship this year or any year while he’s very talented inconsistency and play and lack of a clutch Gene will continue to hurt the team disagree this is me I guess
Disagreeing with a lot of people today disagree that he lacks the clutch Gene what are we talking about here he had a bad finals okay a couple of seasons ago we had a bad finals right at 23 years old he had a bad NBA finals and that’s
Where all of this started right Dan shanesy wrote a piece in the globe and and it’s all just it’s a mess but he’s 23 years old in the NBA finals and he struggled against a team with championship experience all right Larry Bird won his first title at 24 and
He averaged 15 points in the finals so cut the guy a little bit of slack this is what happens when a guy is 19 when he’s drafted there’s the process takes a little while but in the Jason Tatum era they are 5-2 in game sevens
5-2 with Tatum as on the team and so beyond the rookie year but even the rookie year they didn’t have Kyrie and and and Hayward like they those guys were hurt like they were the Tatum was the guy right last season last season game seven Philly at home he had
51 right I just talked about the game six where he had a take over the year they went to the finals Milwaukee game six Celtics on the verge of elimination he dropped 46 he’s had monster performances so I don’t know about this lack of clutch genan is he is he missing
Late late game shots like yeah he’s missed late game shots we’ve seen he’s he’s not hitting them this year but don’t don’t tell me lack of clutch genan right this is this is this is crap that’s that’s a crap argument I don’t buy it so Jason Tatum can he be the best
Player on a championship team yeah he can of course he can and on top of it he’s got Jaylen Brown Drew holiday Derek white Chris hops porzingis on the team this year so he’s got a lot of help in case he’s not the best player so whatever I I’m I’m
I’m fine all right let’s come back uh we’ll talk about rivalries we’ll talk about Luke cornet shooting we got a lot of questions about uh she’s got a lot of questions here and I’m G to run through them when I get back uh in just a
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Jacob says are there any qu any true rivalries for Tatum or brown I know there are comparisons with Luca Booker but is there anyone they outright can’t stand whenever they cross paths I don’t know of any be honest with you uh I don’t know that there’s any kind of animosity like that for
Anybody um trying to think like there there might be I don’t know I can’t think of anything honestly I can’t think of anything if hop into the comment section anybody maybe you can point something out obviously Tatum gets up for the big games against the big stars every player
Does but I I can’t think of any like animosity where one of those guys sees somebody else like Maggie Simpson and the the baby with the unibrow uh there’s no like vicious rivalries like that anywhere Joe says I admit I called for an upgrade over cornette but he’s proven
Me wrong however I feel like he was a better three-point shooter and gets open looks but passes out with moula being three-point heavy why doesn’t he shoot well he doesn’t shoot because you want good Shooters shooting so he comes into the league he took 79 three-pointers his
Rookie season shot 35 and a half per. n not bad 193 a second year shot 36% good League average then he just lost his touch his third year 108 attempts 28.7% then the next year 25.5% and 59 attempts he shot nine of 36 25% against B with Boston his first time around with
The Celtics and that’s it he’s taken 18 since that in like three or four seasons so it’s he just can’t shoot him he he doesn’t like shooting him anymore he he warms up he takes them and he’ll he’ll you know maybe someday he’ll take one or two he’s always he’s always good for
Like three or four a season but look just because Missoula says like three-pointers are good and they want to take them doesn’t mean that anybody on the floor can go run out there and just start shooting them with impunity like you you still have to be able to make
The shot so uh yeah George says when a former player shows up at a home game do they only get a welcome back video once or does it have it every time they return like will Marcus Smart and both Williams get tribute videos every time they visit since they were Staples of
The team no just the first time although I love the concept of running a Robert Williams tribute video every single time he’s there in fact every single time he checks in Robert Williams should get a tribute video because he is that awesome they should just have him saying when he
Was asked what his favorite holiday movie was he said like the Halloween like horror movies he just thought Halloween’s a holiday that’s a holiday mov movie how can you not run a tribute video to that guy every single time he shows up but no they only do once you
Come back you get one and that’s it you’re the enemy after all of that uh Harley asks do you think any of the players that have been traded from the Celtics are holding grudges like Danilo galinari claimed to have seems like tensions were high with Brogden and
Even n Smith and Grant seemed uh like they wanted to stay too so guys guys will always like look for motivation somewhere right so if you get traded it’s very easy to be like when you go back to that team say hey you guys made a mistake let me show you what
Kind of mistake you made even guys who wanted out uh they want to come back and be like hey look how awesome I am you should have played me more or whatever um I don’t I’m gonna say that everybody has some level of animosity because NBA players
Just they look for motivation in every little corner of the world like anything they can find to be like that’s a slight against me they’ll take it and they’ll use it and and that’s it so yeah I I think everybody has some level of a grudge some are more you know some are
Bigger than others I think Gallow really liked the Celtics and wanted like he thought this was actually a good thing and sorry like that’s how goes Zack says the show with Drew was awesome thank you drew Carter if you missed the Drew Carter show go back look for it it was
Good these we’re getting into the fun questions now this is like three more questions we’re getting a little fun goofy he says looking like we we hit the lotto with another play-by-play guy one question do you go by JK every time Drew said JK I cringed maybe he knows you
Well I’ve just never heard anyone call you that people have called me JK like just a common it’s my initials I don’t mind it I don’t mind JK um most people call me corales if my friends uh because John is such a common name um I’m not a
Jonathan I’m John or my Greek name is like Yanni Giannis that’s the same thing jannis and TMO his English name is JN JN and TMO but you know jannis is a better my my there’s two versions of in Greek it’s like Giannis oron so it’s like kind
Of like their JN or Jonathan mine starts with an i OA NN I and his is GN I same thing different different version but regardless that’s uh that’s what I am uh people call me JK sometimes not a big deal for me uh that’s I don’t know not a
Big nickname guy so I haven’t really had a lot of nicknames in my life Steve says my wife and I love Derek white we always say don’t you just want to kiss that head bald heads very kissable bald heads are extraordinarily kissable uh don’t come up to me and just
Kiss my bald head like porzingis did to Derek white I don’t want to be physically assaulted at the Garden uh some of you may ask if you can kiss my bald head chances are it’s no that you’re going to get uh you know it’s a very kissable head but it’s reserved
For only certain people my wife might not like me saying come kiss my head at the games come say hi take a picture with me shake my hand uh that’s where I draw the line but I’m sure many of you have thought about damn that’s a kissable Dome so
Uh back to Steve who says uh Kristof porzingis uh kissing his head uh we thought that was one of the most beautiful moments in history not just how KP couldn’t resist um but how White’s face lit up just beautiful I haven’t heard commentary on this but do
We believe the tipin in game six last year Miami unlocked something in him psychologically that moment where porzingis just reached down and Mah uh was hilarious absolutely hilarious something that teammates can do to one another um Derek lining up I mean I would have the same reaction if one of
My teammates did that it just goes to show like first of all porzingis is like the most funloving just he’s just having the greatest time in Boston it’s amazing uh the fact that that moment happened is is it’s almost like a signature moment because it came after a
Signature Derek white finish where he kind of had like little uh celebration on the floor and porzingis got caught up in it it was so great so great did that tipin unlock something in him psychologically no I think he he was playing like this before that tipin but
I just think his confidence is through the roof and I love it I love the fact that he’s come around to the fact that yeah he’s not only an NBA player but like one of the best NBA players certainly a top 50 NBA player so that’s
Yeah I I think that he’s his confidence has just been a it’s just been growing like crazy final one from Robert who says uh every dare from Austria oh hello Austria love my International listeners I think Steve uh whose question I just read was from
Australia he says uh like you I’m a big supporter of the NBA championship belt I love the NBA championship belt he says I wonder what happens if the current leader uh does not qualify for the playoffs Willie elt be replaced um as the idea of the NBA championship belt
Has a very long tradition and is from utmost importance of everyone involved in basketball I’m sure they’re very clear rules in place yes uh much love from Vienna much love uh from New England here shout out to everybody listening internationally the NBA belt is a regular season thing the way I see
It the NBA belt there’s a champion finally Crown at the end of the season the team that ends with the belt at the end of the season is the final NBA champ that’s it you win the playoffs there’s no belt you are now fighting to win the
Belt at the end it’s like a Royal Rumble of sorts it’s like a you are now entered into one massive tournament to then win the next belt that you take into next season so the NBA belt the 2324 NBA belt which for people who don’t know the
Concept it’s the champion comes into the the season with the belt the Denver Nuggets came into the season with the belt and every night you defend it like a boxing match or a wrestling match or MMA a UFC fight whatever you lose the next team wins the
Belt so that’s just you track it throughout the rest regular season I’m tracking it on my Twitter last day of the regular season whoever wins that last game gets the belt that’s it you are the final last man standing NBA champ for the 2324 season the playoffs begin that starts
The tournament uh what is it King of the Ring or whatever you want to call it there that’s the tournament that crowns the NBA champion and that NBA champion gets the next NBA belt so that’s it um so that’s yeah so if the Celtics I
Don’t care who has the belt at the end if it’s the Hornets whatever if the Celtics win the championship they now have the belt they come into next season with the belt and we track a whole new thing it’s a regular season thing which I love doing
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We dive into another mailbag to answer questions on buyout and trade candidates (and the rules you need to know about them), the Tatum and Brown duo, and why it’s hard for them to play off one another (even though they should do it a little more), the team’s emphasis on shooting 3-pointers, and Jayson Tatum’s clutch gene. John Karalis of Boston Sports Journal gets into all that and then discusses star rivalries, Luke Kornet’s disappearing 3-point shooting, tribute videos, the NBA belt, and more.
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Tatum just seems to never hit that buzzer beater. I think he’s clutch but that buzzer beater man.
This next week is going to be exciting as fck. Clippers, Pels, LeFraud & the Flakers, Pacers…hell yeah. 🍿
I believe if it comes down to letting go of one of the starters I would think it would be holiday.
Again with the sweet T. What a team they had…Artis Gilmore, Dan Issel , and the original 3 point king, Louie Dampier! I was a Squires guy. Also , I may roll back on the last cast, those Miami bums need to know there were thousands of seats available for the Terry Rosier debut. No crowd better than the Garden!!
I honestly think the Celtics should stand pat and roll with the roster they have. There is no deals that will make them better without subtracting
With regards to Tatum being clutch…
He's the fourth Celtic I want with the ball at the end of the game. That's a problem. I don't agree that we can't win a championship with him, but it's certainly unorthodox.
Agree with you John about Tatum as far as fans criticizing. The guy is 25. It took Michael Jordan 7 seasons before he won his first ring with the Chicago Bulls at age 28! TBH I can't stand the negative Nancy's when it comes to Tatum!
Miami has been playing bad and will continue it tomorrow
Can’t win a championship with Joe Muzzula. It’s just a waste of of time. Doc rivers can out coach him. I wish he was fired last Year!!
Love you going after the "clutch gene" crap arguers. It's beyond idiotic and baseless. It's the typical sports argument based on a couple memorable anecdotes and popular narrative. So it goes.
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The Heat lost their last 4 games in a row, so I anticipate they'll come out charging hoping to whoop the C's. Hoping our guys will be ready for desperate/determined Heat.
How about that Tuscano Anderson dude on the Jazz?? He’s really good off the bench
Fair weather Miami fans supporting JK by feeding the algorithm. Let’s go Celtics!!! ☘️💪
My Main points:
●Mazzula stresses taking GOOD THREES. Shots he knows are high efficiency shots for the guys they have. I think people that dislike Mazzula now will never change. He has made leaps and bounds worth of improvement and we are still the 1 seed in the league yet people still hate on him. Idk why💀. Does he still make mistakes or choices you disagree with? Yes, however that doesnt make him the worst coach in history like some people say.
●Celtics do need more shot variety or just need to work harder at generating better looks. They have great post players/ drive and cutters. I dont mind the 3 point emphasis but every team knows that and plan for it. Shot variety is how you combat that.
●I agree and disagree with Tatums clutch momments. He does step up in big games, thats just a fact. But he also does miss A LOT of game winning shots. I think thats the case because the game plan is always "Give the ball to Tatum and spread out," which i think is a bad coaching plan. They have 5 amazing weapons, use them. Even if the last play is for tatum, at least bait out a better look for him. Like having the play start with D White, and passed around until it gets to a tatum 1v1 post play, is better than tatum getting the ball then getting doubled and shooting a contested fadeaway😂
i think nesmith hates us to his core. haha. imo d.white is top 40, not top 50.
BRuce Brown DORCHESTER NATIVE
Miami Heat fans are the most arrogant and most annoying fanbase in the association. When there's a video about some teams (not Miami Heat), especially teams in the Eastern Conference, you can bet some Heat fans will comment "Heat in 4" or "All this to be cooked by Jimmy Butler". They do that on every platform. Like as if the Heat has won anything in Butler era.
John, why do announcers in sports always announce like the game is being played in the evening or night, when it's clearly morning or early afternoon on the eadt coast. It boggles my mind at a 10am pst tip off the announcers says tonight's game.
Tatum is not clutch he is so immature in decision making in the clutch