Are the Utah Jazz a star away from being Finals contenders? | Defend The Take
Lori marinan and Clon seon can be the second and third best player on a championship team Zach 60 seconds begins now it’s obviously correct this is this is I mean Larry Markman is a number one on a team that is going to challenge the one seed and push them to seven gam so
This is easily you move him to the number two on the hierarchy oh my God it it’s it’s like you moved certain years of Dirk nitzki into the into the number two slot like this is that’s a no-brainer here’s the thing about Colin se he was this scorer in Cleveland came
To Utah took a little bit of of a dip but became a better allaround player so now you move him into the third best player this is how good Colin ston is okay and this is really important the Utah jazzz social media put out a highlight of him about two weeks ago in
Which they mention him in the Highlight they mentioned his nickname young bull and then they put the horny Emoji in there that little purple devil face horny Emoji you type in you type in horny that thing’s popping up on your phone like it’s the the phone iPhone
Already knows time time you can’t finish the rest of your story Dave your 60 seconds begins now I I honestly didn’t know that was the horny Emoji but uh I will say this Lowry marinin would be a number two on a championship team I I do
Think he’s that level of player and I agree with everything he said about being a number one on this pretty good team Colin seon I don’t think is number three guy on the championship team he’s a very good player and especially offensively but I think your third best guy has to
Be more of a two-way guy I think Zach would probably agree with me we weren’t doing this particular exercise you need a guy who can defend more Lowry he holds up he does okay um Colin seon dies on screens I mean it’s still going to be an
Issue for him part of him is just physical he’s a little bit too small and we know small guards in the playoffs that becomes a problem he’d be picked on so I think your number three’s got to be a little bit more robust especially if
He’s a small guard he’s got to be able to defend better but I mean I I like Colin seon as a player I think he’s your fourth guy man that’s a great fourth guy fifth guy even better time time all right to uh start this debate Dave I I
Want to ask you a question are you saying there’s nobody in the association that you could pair with these two players where oh you feel comfortable seeing them in the NBA Finals okay see now that’s different that’s a different question okay because I could pair them maybe with jic which I
Think is gonna be argued here soon and it might not matter that Colin seon isn’t that good of a Defender it really depends on the other couple guys so if Colin seon is your third best player and your best player is joic I I don’t even think Giannis um I
Think it yic because Colin seon can play off of him and his passing embiid maybe you know although though his playoff failures we we know quite well if it’s joic yes yes that’s it they could win a title nobody yeah I mean it it it gets to the point where you need
To pair him in my opinion with a hub a an A1 Hub who can play both ways and that’s joic and there really isn’t anybody else I mean embiid yes I would put him just below jic as a guy I would trust in that situation um but
Otherwise if it’s like even if it’s Giannis I think you your third guy needs to be a a high-end playmaker who can guard I could not disagree more you I can name five guys name name joic for one absolutely solves all of them beads issues in the playoffs Jimmy Butler dude
Just produces finals appearances Haw Leonard healthy Kawhi Leonard that like you’re you’re marching through and then here’s one how much Firepower have we seen around Steph Curry where it’s Unstoppable you put Steph on that on that team you put those two guys around Steph instead of whatever Klay Thompson
Is now whatever Andrew Wiggins is now that team is elevated to be a title Contender instantly I don’t think Colin sexon is seeing the court with Steph Curry very often he can’t he can’t guard enough he can’t guard enough a title Jordan PA with Andrew Wiggins and with
Draymond Green and with cavon Looney playing defense behind those guys and unfortunately Utah doesn’t like Utah in particular doesn’t have those guys so you would have to stack your team have that right great rim protector already like needs to learn a bunch but great rim protector uh Chris Dunn
Phenomenal Defender very disruptive two zeros on offense I mean this is just you’re never going to build a perfect team if Colin seon is your third best player not that any team has got to be perfect to win a title we know that I me we haven’t seen Kavon Looney do anything
On offense since high school but yeah that’s Looney fell off a cliff and it’s very unfortunate for me I’ve been sad all year about it uh but yeah I think Colin seon is is a very nice player but third on a title team it would be a bit
Much I mean you know I mean just think about some of the third guys on like Chris Middleton was the third guy you know in my my opinion because I I think I’d rank Drew higher than him but Chris Middleton I mean that’s an All-Star I
Mean is is Colin ston going to make any Allstars in his career yeah but you played Chris Paul you know kind of destined to win if you’re gon to play Chris Paul in a playoff series played Monty Williams you know if anyone’s gonna out if anyone can out
Coach mon Williams in playoff it’s Mike Boer you know the flaw flawed situation do you guys think there’s a world where low marinin could be the number one on a championship team or does he have to be the two are we talking number one player number one option like because like number number
One overall player in a world okay um it’s hard you can’t win a title without a top six or seven guy I don’t think yeah I I don’t think so I don’t think so because even if you put him with like bam out of Bio right super talented does everything
On both ends of the floor is that enough to raise it because if you were talking like just like number one option I iMed and this is kind of like a cheat answer I was like well like think about like if Dwight Howard in his prime is on that
Team he’s not the number one option but but then like he’s the number one player right obviously so no I don’t I don’t think he could be but I think he’s I actually think he’s kind of like knocking on the door you know I I I
Don’t know if he’s ever gonna kick that door open but I I think he’s like he’s Larry Mar is really good he’s he’s I mean he’s so he’s so good I I try to think about I mean you know Seth part now obviously does the tears for us and
You know we we talk a lot in that sort of range he’s got himself in I think he’s like a tier two guy right like not not a number one I think he’s a number two in his best role today this doesn’t mean that two years from now he’s not a
Number one when you look at how he’s progressed and the biggest thing for me is his body like he’s just done so much work to his body he did that that time in The Finnish Army I thought I think he lost a little bit too much weight there
But he put it back on pretty fast he looks so lean and strong um I’m with you I think he could potentially be a number one offensive option right it but I don’t think think that he can be your best player yeah I think yeah I think that’s
I think that’s accurate yeah like we call a lot of plays for him but our best player is you know whoever I I think that’s and that’s what Utah this is what Utah’s entire game plan is is at this point like they they struck gold with Lowry Colin seon’s on a pretty good
Contract when you look at how productive he is um these guys are on deal I mean Lowry’s going to get a new deal here soon but these guys are on a affordable contracts they have so many assets if someone is disgruntled Danny a could make a pitch
To them say hey look man give us a year give us two maybe we could win a title and and we’ll take care of you but also I mean you and Zach you you lived in Salt Lake you attended games I mean you know how they are there I mean there’s a
There’s a good chance that the next you know the top of the West here in the next few years is like OKC Minnesota Utah you know Dallas right anonio and it’s these smaller markets but the pitch to them is first of all the NBA markets you throughout the world
You don’t have to think about oh I got a weird thumbs up there um thanks Apple uh that was weird uh but we’re gonna Market you around the world so Market doesn’t matter but what does matter is your local market and you can be a legend here and you talk they’ll do it
Hey come on you know you’re a top top 10 player you’re going to have a Max contract for the rest of time you’re here we’re going to make sure you have a fstar experience play with Lowry Markin you’re in a Delta Hub easy to get out of town if you want
To go travel that’s true it’s a short flight to La short short flight to La beautiful hiking not not far away too Dave we’re trying to get hired by the Utah Jazz we’re we’re gonna be the let us make your free I’m pretty sure the Jazz won’t hire me at this
Point I’m pretty sure
The Athletic NBA Show discuss if the Utah Jazz are close to being championship contenders.
