Salt Lake City: SERIOUS Push for MLB, NHL to Utah
Here’s Brody Brazil you know this is kind of a crazy part of life I’ll go back four weeks ago let’s just say New Year’s Day 2024 I had no clue that back then I’d soon be doing a state of pro sports in the state of Utah
Video but here we are and for very good reason right now there seems to be a huge coordinated push to get more pro sports teams and leagues to Salt Lake City and I fully realize that’s not Salt Lake City that’s just the most beautiful Utah
Image I could come up with on Google so I put it here on the presentation let’s begin like this within the last two weeks this is when things have really picked up and I say this respectfully in my mind Salt Lake City has gone from a sleepy Sports Town
To a place where a major league baseball team made an official visit to check things out and there was an ownership group in Salt Lake City that made an official expansion request to the National Hockey League let me go back to that sleepy Sports Town comment for just
A second I realize some of you are watching this from Salt Lake City you might find that offensive like you’re not a good sports town or a big Sports town it’s not that it’s just that the Jazz have been the main thing certainly not the only thing we’ll get to that in
Just a second but it seemed like the scene in Utah and Salt Lake City was rather settled and I understand that there’s been popular growth and more people and more interest and more business and more possibilities and opportunities but you just didn’t hear a lot from Salt Lake City like you have in
The last two weeks and like I said the A’s visit up there and their official request to the NHL kind of coinciding with what’s going on with the Arizona Coyotes more on that in a second they seem to be capitalizing on certain opportunities and and making their voice
Heard but again Salt Lake City has never been just the Jazz a couple other franchises that are relatively new but some that have been around for quite some time Real Salt Lake of MLS real monarchs of MLS next pro league the Salt Lake Bees of minor league baseball the
Salt Lake City Stars they’re in the G League of the National Basketball Association and the East Coast hockey leagues Utah Grizzly so not even college sports but just at the professional ranks they’re actually pretty well covered in addition to the Utah Jazz which have obviously been around for
Multiple decades and that name Jazz no it never fit they came from New Orleans but they kept the name so this wouldn’t be the first time that maybe Salt Lake City would benefit from the relocation of an outside team yeah it’s not just the Jazz let’s be very clear when I said
Sleepy before I just meant that not much was on the radar but now it is in large part thanks to these two big big groups the Larry H Miller Group which includes former jazz owners they own car dealerships they have a restaurant and entertainment complex they run an
Advertising agency they’ve got a TV station this is a big Endeavor let’s say the Larry H Miller group they’re also the big ones behind the development of Daybreak which is where that new Salt Lake Bees Minor League Stadium is going to go that the A’s were actually touring it’s supposed
To open in 2025 so the Larry H Miller group wheen and Dean in Salt Lake City and then there’s also the Smith Entertainment Group Ryan Smith and his wife are the ones behind that uh Ryan sold qual Trix with his family to sap I think a handful of years ago for like8
Billion doll in cash Ryan went on to go buy the Jazz and Delta Center and Real Salt Lake that Smith Entertainment Group also runs a Media Group including a radio network etc etc so those two groups alone and by the way the Smith Entertainment Group bought the Jazz from
The Larry H Miller group so there is some familiarity there and some connections these aren’t necessarily as far as I can understand they’re not competing groups those are collaborating groups so you put their efforts and their resources together and you certainly understand what they’re capable of in Salt Lake City it’s also a
Town that is very much hoping to get the Winter Olympics back for 2034 they had it in the early 2000s and this according to the Salt Lake City Tribune the Olympics are coming back as Salt Lake City has been named the preferred host for the 2034 Winter Games
The sub headline says much would have to go wrong for the Olympics not to come to Utah after the Olympic Committee announcement again obviously that has not been finalized but they’re a front runner you’d have to think from North America or the United States that Salt Lake City could be adding the 2034
Winner games and that means by the way that there has to be a huge buildup of infrastructure and more venues and facilities and right now it’s the Delta Center that hosts the NBA they could temporarily take in a new NHL team whether it’s expansion or relocation and obviously there’s space and land and
Resources to go build other venues baseball’s not in the Winter Olympics but you understand my point they would have to expand their facilities and the way to do that is by adding some Pro Sports teams if they really are serious about taking on the 2034 Winter Games
And there’s a group up there that is specific to Major League Baseball and bringing it in and I think that holds true for both the baseball and the hockey efforts like big league Utah I don’t know that they’re exactly saying this out loud but it certainly seems like their interest is
To take either an expansion Big League team which baseball has said they’re interested in doing as soon as the A’s and rays are finalized and wherever they’re going to land obviously Nashville seems like a favorite out east who would be out west I mean Utah’s got
To be a front runner so they’ll take expansion but it also feels I don’t know that they’ve said this it also feels like they’d be up for relocation they’ll just take whatever’s quicker I didn’t want to say easier but they’re trying to get to pro sports teams as soon as
Possible and I’m not always saying that a group like big league Utah is necessary for a city to get a new pro sports team but you’d have to think it certainly does not hurt to have this level of organization and detail and connection and resources and influence
And even going back to the whole A’s and Las Vegas relocation situation this is something that Las Vegas never actually had but Utah is a couple steps ahead in the game of actually doing such and this is also a huge question right the Larry H Miller group they put up seven
Billboards the other day around Salt Lake City to say that Utah wants the A’s now again this is not an a video necessarily this is more on the state of Utah but it’s interesting that we know the team made a visit to Utah to check out that new ballpark in Daybreak the
Miller group put out that press release they’re the ones that put out that information now they’re putting up these Billboards and I think I said earlier they do run an advertising agency so it it makes sense how easily they facilitated this but that message is not 100% clear Utah wants the A’s in
2025 or temporarily or Utah wants the A’s permanently are they seeking that that’s even an option right now that Las Vegas is not guaranteed or Oakland is not on the table anymore like and that’s the whole point of Utah with the NHL and Major League Baseball they are super
Into this super aggressive about this and I’m not faulting them or making even a comment on that I’m just saying you can see how they are kind of making a huge push they’re going in on trying to bring in Major League Baseball and the NHL so again Utah wants the A’s dot dot
Dot I feel like that’s an incomplete sentence but it kind of purposely leaves It Wide Open to interpretation so that’s the Miller group let’s go back to the Smith group and they put out this release a couple days ago the Smith Entertainment Group the parent company of the Utah Jazz
Delta Center Real Salt Lake the Utah Royals and several other Utah based sports and entertainment venue aventures today announced that it has formally requested that the National Hockey League initiate an expansion process with the ultimate purpose of bringing an NHL Franchise to Utah scg has also made clear its immediate ability to welcome
An NHL team to Utah using Delta Center as an Interim Home for an NHL Franchise there’s two big things there which is I as I explained before they’re trying to get Sports as soon as they can in any way they can literally read the two underlying things there initiate the
Expansion process okay that’s one route and by the way I’ll explain later I’m not sure how exactly ready the NHL is to expand they’re already at 32 teams I don’t think they want 33 and to sit on that I think they at least want 34 but even if
They do 34 it’s 17 in the East 17 in the west you’ve got those odd numbers that just don’t seem to work perfectly like it is right now with 32 total teams 8888 or 16 and 16 anyway I digress but they either want to initiate the expansion process or they’ve made it
Clear that they have the immediate ability to welcome an NHL team as in the Arizona Coyotes I’m pointing here but I should be pointing here that’s the Tempe Arena which last May was officially voted down and since then almost a year later the coyotes do not have an ultimate
Destination or final plan or something they’re moving forward with still and there kind of has been a deadline set not officially at least publicly a lot of people are expecting that by the end of February maybe even the end of March that could be the coyotes deadline to have something new
Set in motion or wrapped up for the NHL otherwise by the end of this season they may not be as protected in consideration of what their future is actually going to be and I hate to speculate on that I hate to influence what sounds like a
Rumor I mean we don’t know but it does sound like the NHL has said we will give you the next couple months to figure this out but I think they are frustrated that the coyotes don’t have what’s next figured out anyway but the point is Salt Lake City from their Viewpoint they’re
Basically saying hey we want expansion that’s what we want to set in motion here but oh by the way we’re also ready there’s a reason they say the immediate ability to welcome an NHL team to Utah they are very specifically talking about the coyotes aka the desert dogs the
Population in Utah I should have made a fancier graph than this I apologize it’s so boring but you can see the trend and forget the the lineup to the 1960s and 80s and even 2000s look where it’s gone from 2000 to 2024 a population of 3.4
Million now I guess updated for uh this this current month and starting in January of 2024 but the population as I’m about to explain here has skyrocketed in the state of Utah it still ranks 30th overall in US population from a state perspective perspective 3.3 or 4 million residents
You get it it’s kind of in that ballpark but here’s the main one Utah has the highest per increase in state population since 2010 so of the 50 states none of them has have grown as quickly as Utah has percentage wise since 2010 it’s a relatively big state 85,000 square miles
Essentially but 80% of the population is centered around the wasach front that’s right I said it now that I got it in the comments section last video I was talking about Utah on the A’s I didn’t know the exact pronunciation I’ll say it again wasach front see now I’m a Utah expert wasach
Front it’s just an intimidating word when you didn’t know how to say it for the first time to nail it like that still pretty proud of myself anyway I got to spend more time in Salt Lake City clearly but yeah it just goes to show you that the state’s population is
Heavily concentrated around Salt Lake City okay so predictions here in my honest opinion I think Utah lands something in the next three years and it could be sooner than that when I say something I mean either Major League Baseball or the National Hockey League or both it could be a team literally
Right around the corner there like landing on the spot the coyotes or the A’s even on a on a temporary basis whatever it’s my feeling and just the way I can see the tea leaves Utah’s going to land something and they’re probably going to hang on to something
The way that they’re built and with their Ambitions I just I see one of these two things these two Avenues working out for them or maybe both they obviously have the current land and space and money and influence and resources to see it all through I go
Back to by the way uh Ryan Smith he posts posted on Twitter it’s still called Twitter uh about a week 10 days ago week or 10 days ago oh he just went out golfing with baseball commissioner Rob Manfred in Utah yeah so you can understand that they’re not playing
Around up there in Salt Lake City they have the ability to connect and be considered and I think something here along some line is going to work out I know a lot of promises get made about this will happen and that will work and it will all be fine
But in the case of Salt Lake City I I don’t know that I need any of that I can really see how things work there and how things will work there for these pro sports franchises the Jazz have always had pretty good support and you’d have
To think with the excitement of either a brand new NHL team or some type of Major League Baseball situation that Salt Lake City would offer a lot of the resources that professional sports franchises need even more pro sports franchises and maybe in the same way that we thought about
Phoenix one time is a as a market that was emerging in the Southwest desert well now look at it baseball basketball hockey football they’re one of the big four and I realize those teams are all spread out in different regions essentially but they’ve got the big four
In the greater Phoenix area and I I think Salt Lake City is kind of along those same lines of growth and possibility and opportunity and let me just go back to the NHL I I kind of already made this point but of all the leagues like baseball is probably going
To expand by two as for the NHL they recently got to 32 and if they get to 33 they’re obviously the only Pro Sports Major League in the United States that’s at 33 teams let alone they’d probably have to get to 34 and eventually they’d want to get to
36 and I really don’t see the the NHL expanding within the next couple years so if Salt Lake City really is serious about Landing a team and I hate to get into this game of stealing teams and making pitches and undercutting and all that stuff but it it does seem like Salt
Lake City’s best Avenue would be to go fishing for Arizona it it does kind of seem like that is that is their most immediate move and and maybe that’s why that press release was worded so carefully and so specifically they want to start the expansion process but they
Obviously realize that being a magnet for the KY might be their best route so yeah Utah’s push is definitely on for professional sports and it’s just kind of amazing again I I’ll end the video the same way I started it all of this has cropped up
Within the last two weeks I mean January 1st I wouldn’t have put much thought into oh an NHL team is right around the corner for Salt Lake City or that a major league baseball team is really considering and has a maybe really good chance of temporarily playing there
Maybe Salt Lake City and their ownership groups permanently want to attach to a team that billboard was very upfront but also not very specific in the same sense hey you made it here the end of the video you know I appreciate that Thumbs Up Down Below that’ll help me in the
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Chapters:
0:00 How quickly Utah has moved
2:00 Not just the Utah Jazz
2:51 Two BIG groups in Utah
4:25 2034 Winter Olympic Bid
5:36 Big League Utah
6:58 Utah wants the A’s… HOW?
8:30 Utah going after the Arizona Coyotes?
11:25 Utah population growth
13:04 Utah PRO SPORTS predictions
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44 Comments
Well no Brodie can’t really compare Phoenix to Salt Lake City. Phoenix is the 11th largest media market in the country while Salt Lake City is 27th. Phoenix has a population close to 2M while Salt Lake City is close to 200k. Hard to envision them being home to multiple pro franchises.
SLC is actually a bigger tv market than Vegas is, weirdly enough
Utah’s Governor Spencer Cox is fully on board with Utah hosting both MLB and NHL. Salt Lake City’s Mayor Erin Mendenhall is also on board, and has expressed interest in making sure a new NHL arena is built in the city. In addition, several other cities are wanting to host the new arena, so Ryan Smith has options.
Oh, and unlike the Utah Jazz, the Utah Coyotes is a ream name that makes sense.
Salt Lake City is a fine destination for pro sports. It's small but you aren't competing with a bunch of other entertainment options. It's a growing city with a decent economy and even a surprisingly good rail system for public transportation. The Jazz and Real Salt Lake are well supported teams.
We welcome the "Utah expert" anytime.
Utaha
Most sports pundits up here in Canada feel the Coyotes are toast in Arizona and will be going to Salt Lake City most at the start of the 24/25 season. It would be interesting Brodie what the Hockey Guy has to say about that. I know you've recently spoke with him. As for baseball, well Fisher, give up on Vegas! Putting the A's there isn't going to pan out. Sorry, they just don't want you. So, if you must relocate so frigging bad look at Salt Lake City. They really want the Athletics franchise on a permanent basis, and they
As an M's fan, this whole process has been wild to watch. It's kind of crazy to think about the situation the A's are in.
Plan A seems to be sellout to Vegas and further despoil baseball with gambling culture and a weak media market.
Plan B is to let the Mormon Church's inner circle use baseball to launder the money they're stealing.
I'm not a fan of either scenario. Oakland is the closest team to Seattle, SLC would be better from a geographic standpoint but that's not enough for me to want to get involved with a man from Utah named "Smith". I really hope Oakland keeps the A's.
Great video Brodie, you're coming with stats and facts
Brodie, we would love for you to be an television analyst for the Salt Lake A's after the move, you can pronounce Wasatch right.
If the A's won't play in Oakland, then they can play in Salt Lake or be barnstorming team until they finally settle.
Salt Lake City having a MLB team, even temporarily? Methinks the Colorado Rockies would have something…rather vehement to say about that idea.
Oakland for sure doesn't want the A's.
Why? Oakland has more metro population than entire state of Utah. There is no media coverage worth the A’s time. Ownership is the problem and there is enough support to keep them in Oakland . It’s the grifters at ownership pushing this BS.
Vegas just got saved from bum fisher lol
All that Mormon money
NHL Jets are a potential relocation from WPG to SLC as the Utah Polar Bears.
Maybe the A's are looking at the wrong place to relocate. At least SLC acts like they really want them, and actually have a place for them to play, with no waiting. It sounds like SLC is trying to steal Vega's new boyfriend, that Vegas isn't really interested in anyway.
I never really hate anyone
But I hate fisher so much
POS
Having the A's switch to SLC would be fantastic. Let them deal with John Fisher. Swap AAA teams with the Angels so the A's have their top minor leaguers right down the road. Less need, if not no need for a dome/retractable roof in SLC, so Fisher might actually be able to afford a stadium.
And the best part of all of it, Las Vegas can then focus on the expansion team it wants. Las Vegas wouldn't have to deal with a complete joke of a stadium because the owner is too cheap/too broke to build a quality stadium with a retractable roof. They could also build on a better site that isn't completely dependent on the demolition of a property owned by a company who can't current afford to replace it.
OR Las Vegas could actually accept that baseball, due to when the season is and how many games there are, isn't the draw that the shorter, cooler seasons in the NFL, NHL and NBA are.
Salt Lake City putting up billboards saying they want the A’s . Las Vegas doesn’t want the A’s …Let them go to Salt Lake City where they are wanted, who want to give them a home instead of Las Vegas who want them as much as a turd in a punch bowl..
Where ever they go unless it’s Las Vegas nobody in Las Vegas will even be able to follow them because of MLB broadcast contracts ..How the hell do you get people interested in a team they can’t even follow .This is the biggest failure in the history of the game ..
I get the feeling that Las Vegas and Nevada are at least temporarily tapped out when it comes to building a new baseball stadium. How's this for a scenario…Salt Lake does such a great job of hosting the A's that the A's stay. That might give Nevada and Las Vegas a chance to do something constructive on the stadium situation with an eye toward expansion. The problem is that the Fisher ownership group strikes me as completely inept and they might wear out their welcome in SLC the way they did in Oakland. I can absolutely see the Coyotes landing there.
The Raiders should be in Los Angeles instead of Las Vegas. Chargers should have stayed in San Diego if it could have happened. Utah Athletics or Oakland Athletics!
the as are going to vegas. thats been confirmed. doesnt matter what utah wants
Have the A’s go where they are wanted. Vegas seems to not want them. First, Fisher has to sell the team and make this happen. End the A’s saga where the team can move forward.
the Utah Grizzlies are already there
Another great video Brodie I am hug fan of your work keep up the good work
If SLC gets a MLB team I don’t want it to be temporary.
Just toss a soccer team that's it.
The Utah Rangers perfect NFL franchise or relocate an MLB Texas team to Utah and you'll havr a Utah Rangers baseball team.
Best video yet. One thing I would argue agaists is this is not a recent push. MLB and NHL have been actively discussed in certain circles for more than 2 years. As for the A's, they are a play for Utah in 2025 (temporarily), and the desire is to have this be the first step to get an expansion team in 2027-28. Utah would like to be in position #2 if Vegas were to fall through, cough, cough. The thing about the Big League Utah is they want ownership of a team not just to see an existing team come in with legacy owners. The play for Hockey for SEG to build a new stadium south of downtown. Utah fans are not ultra excited to see the Jazz move out of the city center, but it's easier to force a move to a new stadium in Draper, UT with a NHL and NBA teams calling it their home. Of course state funds would be sought after, and much like the Day Break project they want it to be a commercial complex owned/controlled by SEG and others ironically that sit on the Big League Utah board. PS the Utah Yetis are a leading name for an NHL team. This is a play on the "U" (Utah Utes) and "Y" (BYU)… just sayin.
Utah should get a hockey team probably a relocated team like the Arizona team. This way they could stay in the same division. The Athletics could play a season or two in Salt Lake to see if there is fan interest in baseball. Nevada doesn't seem interested in the Athletics they would prefer an expansion team. It Utah has support for a baseball team and is willing to pay for an MLB stadium then let them have the Athletics and have Nevada have an expansion team. The Jazz should change their name to something specific to the area and let New Orleans have the Jazz name if they want it.
SLC is behind Houston, Quebec City, and Atlanta (I know not again) for the next NHL teams. It's all about the TV markets.
In addition to the teams mentioned in the video, the Utah Royals of the NWSL are coming back after a 3 year absence thanks to the efforts of the Real Salt Lake owners to bring them back. Also the area is home to the Warriors of the MLR (rugby) who play at Zions Bank Stadium in Herriman. They are one of the league's most successful teams when it comes to attendance as they have finished in the top 5 each season in that category since they joined the MLR in 2018.
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Portland has higher population (50m shy of the entire state of utah) higher wealth and lower crime than Salt Lake City.
I will die on this hill.
In terms of affiliations, the Bees can become the AAA team of (Insert name of future MLB franchise here), with the Angels moving their AAA affiliation to Fresno (Chukchansi Park was built for a AAA team, most recently AAA Giants). The only issue would be the Rockies and their Low-A affiliation. I would say they could take the building in Lancaster…but that's about to be converted to a soccer-specific building. Maybe Bakersfield? My knowledge of former California League teams is a little spotty with me being on the East Coast.
I believe the only way we see leagues beyond 32 teams is if they split into two seperate leagues in a sense. Say a Western League and Eastern League that play seperate before meeting in a championship series like the old MLB days
I think Salt Lake wants to be the new Vegas but I personally feel they need to get their priorities straight and figure out what they want is it the Olympic, is it MLB or NHL they should pick one and put their sole focus into that
I think the Coyotes will end up relocating to Salt Lake City
Get the Jazz out of that con artist cult center and forbid expansion to SLC by ANY sport until the cult is eradicated.
Gen Z is moving to Utah in droves for some reason and the Olympics are coming to SLC. This is ironic as gen z has zero disposable income and religious trauma
As a baseball fan, I think an MLB expansion would be a bad idea. Baseball already has a problem with the talent pool not being deep enough to give every team a good roster that has the potential to succeed.
As a Rockies fan living in the south…I hate this for Oakland. No city should ever have a team ripped away from them. I still feel bad for Seattle.