4th quarter Suns return as they blow lead despite Devin Booker’s 44 and lose to Magic | PHNX Suns
The Welcome everybody to the phnx post game show unfortunately we get sad music for the second game in a row because the Suns decided to drop the ball again this time to the Orlando Magic honestly I don’t even know what the score was because I closed down my ESPN box and I
Didn’t want to keep track of it in this one Gerald what was the score 113 to 98 yeah see not worth really keeping track of because oh no we suck again our fourth quarter woes and some other things but you know how are you guys handling with the
Loss another day another day in the NBA yo it’s it’s a it’s another day in the NBA it just it’s yeah this was this was total unprofessionalism this was lack of effort this was lack of awareness this was not being Pros all that sunk in one that you know
Am am I defining who they are by this one night no I never do that I don’t get too high or low on 82 game Seasons but complete dud they deserve to get their ass whooped like they did they play with their food all night and they got their
Ass whooped that’s it period are you are you willing to admit that Eric if you have the image throw it up now that the fourth quarter is a problem again uh last game you said it it wasn’t even though you know only score 17 tonight they go on a complete dry spell again
The the fourth quarter is is once again a problem for this team and it’s a lot of the same issues we saw early on stagnant offense turnovers not rebounding uh they wind up uh just disappearing in terms of energy and effort in the fourth this feels like
This is still a problem for the consistently inconsistent Suns and we’ve had a couple win streaks that kind of I think make us feel like things are corrected but I still think there’s some of the same fundamental problems we’ve seen throughout this year with this team I think the biggest problem is that
Lineup to start second quarters and fourth quarters when book goes to the bench it doesn’t have rhythm and this is not to throw KD or Beal under the bus but that is the snowball that starts these fourth quarters most of the time because those lineups for whatever reason are struggling to find flow
They’re turning the ball over they’re missing shots they’re not getting stops on the other end and at that point the other team has momentum and by the time book gets back in the game like it’s already the game’s already turned it’s already out of hand it’s already
Snowballing and so then book comes in commits some turnovers it compounds everything and look I’m if you think that Devin Booker taking as many shots as he has the last couple of games is the reason why they’ve lost the games I question your knowledge of basketball I
Question whether you have an agenda I question whether you’re even watching the game but the ball does need to move a little bit more it does need to not be so stagnant and I get it with a big three sometimes there is going to be a
Your turn my turn element to this but the biggest problem for me is that the Suns beat themselves like you could point to the Miss free throws you could point to the turnovers something I brought up in pregame the magic turned teams over they did a great job with it
The first Go Round the second time it absolutely killed them um and the fact that you took 19 fewer shots and what were they four for 14 from three like you are fighting an uphill battle against math you’re not going to win against the top five defense like that
And the carelessness with the ball just doomed them tonight that’s it we we might go ahead go ahead ESO I was just gonna say when you have more turnovers than you have three-pointer attempts yeah that’s not going to get it done I mean they didn’t even get to half of
What we said that they should get to I mean the last two games or at least the the last two fourth quarters have been a JLo a whole lot of cheeks all right this is just not a a good a good team the last two fourth quarters and it’s it’s
Frustrating because you’re wasting good good to great I mean great performances by book offensively but then you’re not doing the little things to take care of business I I’m I espo I love you dog you know I do I’m I’m still not I’m still not gonna keep pointing at the fourth
Quarter I’m just not and and I tell you why they didn’t lose this game in the fourth quarter this game was lost way early way before that all the turnovers the misf free throws the UN the carelessness with the ball this game should have been over a halftime if they
Just play the way they’re supposed to play and be pros and don’t do what they were doing in that first half game will be over I get it the numbers continue to say fourth quarter fourth quarter fourth quarter but I I I tend to believe that
In the entirety of the game a lot of that stuff just compounds itself and then it just in the fourth quarter snowballs I think we could we could walk away and end the show with just Gerald’s descri description I mean I think he nailed it he nailed everything to a te
Um it’s just one of those things where you know you can’t this is the NBA guys like four [ __ ] three-pointers you 14 threes in the NB in this era are y’all kidding me man like like I might as well just flatten all four of my tires and
Call you know I’m not getting to work guys like it’s that simple like four flat tires you’re not [ __ ] winning in the NBA taking 14 three-pointers that’s just it you’re not winning in the NBA having more turnovers in three-o attempts and you’re not winning in the
NBA when you miss damn near 10 free throws and so yeah just one of them nights I I know this team is not what we saw tonight I know it I know it emphatically y’all could come at me if y’all wanted in that that’s not who the
Phoenix Sons are and I know the next question is well why they play like that well why the hell do we have bad days at work as human being some days are productive some days aren’t today was a [ __ ] show and so yeah that’s I mean that that was just atrocious basketball jump
Ball I didn’t like anything about it and they paid for it and good I they deserve to get their ass whooped that Orlando Magic team has professionals over there young professionals that give a damn so if you’re going to come out and just give the ball way the way they were they
Deserve to get their ass whooped they didn’t they didn’t deserve to win tonight if they had have won tonight I wouldn’t have been happy on his show it’s [ __ ] like they got they didn’t deserve to win and their problems in the first three quarters kept Orlando in it
But the fact that they went almost eight minutes without scoring in the fourth quarter allowed them to kick the door open and win this game if the Suns just play average in the fourth this is a close game down to the wire they didn’t even do that they dis appeared
Completely in the fourth quarter and it’s a fundamental issue if you if your entire offense can’t find a damn bucket for eight minutes that fourth quarter uh is what lost you the game but you let them stay in the game when you had a chance to put your foot on their neck by
Turning it over and not shooting I I think what Gerald said Nails it though like I I saw it immediately when it happened third quarter ends book goes to the bench doesn’t come back to the 8 minute Mark those four minutes are [ __ ] show they’re [ __ ] show so is it Talent
No it’s not Talent we got the [ __ ] talent to win games in the fourth quarter they’re just not for whatever reason the way that they’re going about it is more of the problem so is that fixable yes you you they gonna have to make an adjustment they’re gonna have to
Figure something out but you can’t go five and and they brought book in early like he doesn’t come in at the 8 Minute Mark of the fourth quarter typically I think he came back at the 8:30 Mark and that’s because he he came in immediately
After a bad B turnover and it’s like all right chill out get back in there so that’s to me is the more fundamental thing we want to talk about the fourth quarters let’s talk about how they’re managing the fourth quarters as opposed to just thinking this team can’t score
On the fourth because I know they can we just saw them do it multiple times in big fourth quarter comebacks I know they can it’s just a fundamental thing that I think needs to get taken care of strategically and from the coaching staff you got to do a better job but I’m
Not gonna sit here and say Kevin Durant Devon Booker Brad be and the Phoenix Suns are just terrible they just can’t score in the fourth quarter I I don’t believe that again espo I’m not going at you I’m just saying I don’t believe that uh there’s like a fourth quarter thing I
The numbers say that but I think it’s fixable I I’m not saying they can’t score in the fourth quarter we’ve seen it we know that they can but they fall back to the same fundamental issues to Gerald’s Point very much so rotation wise but also they start back into that
ISO ball the ball doesn’t move the fourth quarters we’ve seen them be successful in is when that ball moves when uh when they’re they’re running and gunning those kind of things not when it devolves into what it devolved into today and I’m sorry you look at it there
Is definitely a pattern with what happens in a lot of these first quarters where they blame a game it’s not a it’s not a case of they can’t do it it’s a case of they lean into these bad habits from time to time that prevent them from
Efficiently Doing It Gerald am I off Bas with that or no I I I think I think you’re both kind of right in a way I I feel like they were kind of playing with their food for most of the night with especially in regards to the turnovers
And the shot discrepancy like you can’t take basically 20 fewer shots than your opponent in the NBA unless you are shooting the lights out from three and expect to win and they didn’t shoot the lights out from three and so finally that tide turned in the fourth quarter
And on the Road against a young magic team with a fan base that’s you know excited to see Kevin Durant Devin Booker Bradley Beal in town like yeah when Booker’s going off for 40 everything’s great for the Suns but as soon as that well runs dry like you need buckets when
He goes to the bench you need efficient offense you need to run some offense like it feels like this is the type of game and last game as well that exacerbates their need for a backup point guard which is what we’ve been saying for a long time the Suns don’t
Need a starting caliber point guard they’re not going to find one on the trade market anyway but they do still very much need a backup floor General to keep things organized for that particular lineup because as of right now a lineup with Kevin Durant and Bradley Beal should be perfectly fine in
The scoring Department it’s putting those guys in positions to succeed that has been a struggle and finding the right guys to go around them that’s been a problem and and you look not having nurkic was part of that tonight I think I thought Eubanks was okay in the first
Half and then it just kind of fell apart in the second but like you really need to figure out what three players can we put around Beal and KD to start these fourth quarters so we don’t open the door every single time because in the
NBA if you open that door for a playoff caliber team like Orlando at home they’re gonna take it they’re gonna open the door and you’re gonna have to rely on the guy who had 40 through three quarters to continue shouldering this Herculean load which just isn’t it’s not
Feasible and it’s not how you’re going to win basketball games I I I talked about it in the Pacer game I I thought when nerk left the court and was ruled out the game shifted uh tonight we missed nerk we’re 0 and four in games that nerk don’t play right and so that’s
A big thing Brad Beal came out and hit his first three shots went one for 10 the rest of the way you know you can point to a plethora of things that to me are uh you know they’re more of an aberration uh I I you know Brad Beal’s
Just too good for me to think that Brad Beal’s gonna struggle that much the guy’s got a broken nose and he’s was fidgeting with that mask all day do I wear it do I not wear it do I go under the headband do I put the headband on
Top of it like I don’t know what the hell he was doing matter of fact on on two separate occasions I was pissed off because he was playing with the with the with the face mask and his Defender cut right by him twice during the game because he’s too worried about the face
Mask it was another possession where where the guy falls and Brad helps the defender up and that Defender helps them get an offensive rebound did you see that g yeah I mean I’m I’m sitting here like what the [ __ ] are we doing like so
This is why I choose to just this is one of those games that you literally this is the epitome of flush that down a toilet get on the plane get some sleep and get your ass ready for Miami tomorrow because there’s not much you can take from this game that was
Positive it was just weird all night man um but again I get why people were mad I get it the problem is if they flushed so many games at some point the the plumbing is gonna get clogged we’re gonna have a problem because we keep saying well just flush that one and
We’ve done it a lot this season and I get that they’ve been better as of late but I’m a guy that if I see a p you love you love the if it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck don’t tell me it’s a dinosaur whatever don’t talk they
Quack you know what I mean I don’t care if it quacks I don’t care if it’s squeaks whatever whatever you want to say at some point it is what it is and and I’m just seeing it too much and I think Gerald you’re right on maybe that
A backup point guard can fix that in that time where book isn’t on the floor with Beal and KD out there trying to operate maybe that helps and then you get off to a faster start fourth quarter which doesn’t allow it to turn into what we’ve seen that might be it so yeah
That’s part of it and I think part of it too is the fact that they need to shift their mentality because it does feel like a little bit of a mental block at this point when it comes to Fourth quarters um I’m not going to talk about
Body language but you can tell and and this happens for a lot of teams in the NBA but you can tell when they’re not making shots or when they’re turning the ball over it affects their defense it affects their effort level on that l end a little bit making second effort plays
On the defensive side of the ball and that’s what you have to do in fourth quarters because that is when teams are going to bring their most effort when they’re going to crash the offensive glass when they’re going to turn your turnovers into easy buckets and it feels
Like a lot of the time they get a little dejected or down on themselves when they miss shots because they’ve seen this so many times and it’s like why why is this happening again they’ve got to find a way to push through that and get defensive stops and focus more on that
End of the floor and let that fuel their offense because it feels like they put way too much pressure on we need to score we need to figure out what we’re doing offensively and it has the reverse effect that they need to be looking for
Yeah and and to your point G when what I noticed from this team is when they start to have these turnovers these ridiculous turnovers these are like Elementary turnovers when they have those it becomes a Snowball Effect and they can’t stop doing it like it gets in
There my like it’s not one turnover it’s like two three four five in a row like it just gets crazy and it affects their defense it gets in their Mentos and it it it it completely takes them out of what they’re doing fundamentally on both
Ends so um yeah I mean these guys what I’m mad about is that the guys that were responsible for these turnovers tonight Kevin Durant Brad Bal Devin Booker 15 of them out of the 23 between the three of them okay these are some of the most experienced players on planet Earth you
Know that they’re not this is not how they they play basketball you know that that’s not in their DNA they they know better and when you get that many turnovers from your three guys you’re in for a long night it just didn’t I tweeted at halftime this should be a
Blowout if they were in careless they were more aware and more focused and I thought they would come out in the second half and kind of nip that in the but they didn’t they didn’t and they got their ass whooped um but yeah but the most frustrating part about that Flex is
That it is those big three who are the culprit more often than not so at some point in time is that who they are in this moment within their career I’m not saying always have been and always will be but in this moment this snapshot this
Season is that who the big three is because we’ve seen it so many times this season and and I get your point of saying like that’s not they are in the sense of that’s not who they have shown that they can be and who they should
Be but is it kind of who they are if we see it happen night in and Night Out sure we have weeks couple stretches here and there where it doesn’t really affect us at all or we’re able to overcome it but then we revert right back to it like
At some point in time you have to look at these things as either their habits now that they’ve picked up or it is what it is is based on who’s around them and the way that they’re playing and the system they’re playing within that is
Part of it yeah I mean I I agree with that I I wouldn’t say it’s they’re who this is who they are at this point of their career I would say this is who they are at this point in this season and there’s just been so many things
Going on that there’s just a lot of continuity issues and I still think that I mean how many games are we into the big three I don’t are we at 12 13 games of The Big Three not even just the big three it’s it’s not the big three
Together it’s the big three each Devin Booker Kevin Durant Bradley Beal regardless of who’s playing in the game we’ve seen issues with turnovers from each of them yeah I mean not only when the big three play even when it’s just two of the big three or one of them or
Whatever yeah I mean did listen I’ve seen way too many games where one of them two of them or even three of them at the same time like tonight um have has struggled with the turnover stuff and I remember when Chris got here in 2021 and we started off a little slow
There was that uh you know and Gerald you you might you were in the arena for all this there was those my bad moments where Chris was constantly putting his hand up my bad my bad my bad you know and it got to a point where it’s like
All right we gotta chill with the my bads and just fix this [ __ ] is this some of that yes is this some of you know gota look in the mirror and say all right man like we we just can’t like Kevin you can’t have seven turnover games Devin you can’t either and Brad
You can’t either like I think there’re still uh I I think they’re at a phase still in in learning each other and I I don’t think they’re at the moment yet where they figured out that part of it as far as in you know between each other
Their personalities how to how to figure these these things out behind the scenes and that takes some time but yeah I mean who who talks to Kevin tonight like who knocks on Kevin’s hotel hotel room door and say Kevin man you a shitty tonight seven turnovers who does that so that’s
What I this is the this is the problem with having a big three it’s a gift and a curse they’re going to bring you so many good things but when they do things bad who holds them accountable is it Frank should be the coaching staff right well that’s what you know what’s the
Point having a coaching staff if they’re not willing to walk up to a guy like Devin Kevin I don’t care if Brad Beal whoever the hell it is any guy up and down the roster and point blank say you weren’t good enough tonight here was the
Issues this is what we’re going to need to fix before tomorrow as we look at this and these are the issues we continually have in the fourth like that’s what a coaching staff is there for and it’s to put the system and the game plan in place that is tailored to
The specific opponent and you somebody in the chat forgive me I don’t remember who it was uh said they played right into the strengths of of Orlando’s defense in a lot of this game and made a lot of decisions that played right into what Orlando does best so is that on The
Big Three is that on the coaches because they put them in a you know in a position that the game plan wasn’t the right one is it all of the above I think there’s a a lot of things I don’t think it’s just one thing that you go that was
The reason that’s the 100% reason why this happened right yeah I I think it’s a combination of factors I think with the turnover thing like I I obviously the more games The Big Three share the court together the less you expect those turnovers to be because they have other
Gravity hubs like if it’s just Kevin Durant out there or just Devin Booker yeah it’s a lot easier to double team those guys because Beal and Durant aren’t on the court to take that pressure off that’s why tonight’s game was so disappointing because you had all three of those guys out there Kevin
Durant turns it over seven times we’ve seen him have games throughout the season where he’s had six seven turnovers but he’s still kind of hovering around his career average of like three three and a half so you as a superstar in this league it’s going to
Happen like it happens to book KD Luca James Harden all these guys that are high usage Superstars that handle the ball a lot there are going to be games where you have a lot of turnovers my issue with this particular game is a lot of those turnovers were unforced like
Inbounds passes where Marquel FZ is lurking right under the basket you can’t have those especially against a team like that that’s already good at that because like you guys said that is playing into their hands that’s giving them easy Steals and turnovers when they haven’t even earned it like they they’re
A good defense on their own they’re going to be able to force that stuff on their own don’t give them the ball and there were too many turnovers tonight that were just kind of careless or throwing the pass too high they were clearly bothered by Orlando’s length
Like it it was just kind of a [ __ ] show all around in that regard and so that’s the concerning part for me is yeah sometimes you’re GNA have a night where Devon Booker has six turnovers or where Kevin Durant has six you don’t want them
To all be on the same night where you got seven4 and four and on top of that you got other guys throwing the ball away too that’s when you’re really in trouble and that’s exactly what happened to me that’s how we started the fourth quarter G like we started the fourth
Quarter on the inbounds and gave it to somebody for a layup that’s how we started it so yeah again I’m not putting lipstick on a pig here this was a [ __ ] show um yeah look I just I can’t take this team going from Brad Pitt in the
First three quarters to sloth from goon but they weren here here’s the thing though this is where I disagree with you espo they were never Brad Pit tonight never offensively offensively they were they were shooting above 60% uh so like offensively they were okay turnover no but offensively they
Were and then the fourth quarter they go eight minutes without scoring like that’s I get this is still fundamentally at its core a good team based on what they’re built around but but there are some very ugly things at times about this team and I think it’s okay to
Acknowledge both which which is what we’re trying to do here yeah 100% and it wasn’t just like turnovers either I mean Gerald you pointed it out they missed nine free throws tonight let’s look at the numbers because they’re they’re bad and there’s a lot of them let’s go ahead
Let’s do that let’s look at the numbers presented by desert Financial Credit Union Arizona’s Number One Credit Union named by fors I mean look at that you can’t 19 more shots for the magic 13 more turnovers for the Suns 23 turnovers their turnovers were old enough to drink
Alcohol in the United States tonight they missed nine free throws which that alone puts you back within Striking Distance of the game and they got outscored 31-13 in the fourth quarter like mathematically you’re just not going to win many games when you get outshot by 19 from the field commit 13
More turnovers and miss Nine free throws like that’s terrible those numbers those numbers are hard to even believe bro in the NBA basketball like an NBA team who’s got Kevin Durant Brad Bill and Devin Booker shot 50% from the free throw line today like just let
That sink in right so I mean you shot 50% from the free throw line like you said the turnovers were older to Old more old enough to drink tonight 23 um it’s it’s this and then again I I can’t I can’t I’d be remiss if we don’t talk
About the threes yeah you can’t do that in what world are we shooting 14 threes yo like and then what world I mean graceon Allen takes three shots like this would I mean there’s nothing about this game and I know we’ve had bad games this year and there’s nothing about this
Team that tells me we’re the best team in the league we win a championship market like we we’re working on ourselves right now this is a working progress team that has a lot of potential but I mean wow man this is this is just one one of those games that
Nothing made sense and so it didn’t make sense to believe that we can win this basketball game when you start to see these numbers play out it’s like no the math is gonna do the math and you’re gonna get your ass smoked eventually and yeah that’s how it played out yeah the
Suns four of 14 from Deep tonight the magic were 12 of 36 from Deep tonight like The Magic aren’t a good three-point shooting team the sun should have been like we joked about it in the pregame show what’s more than two three so we took four we had we made four of them
That was that enough that four extra points enough yo ly I’ve seen games with Luca alone and Steph take 14 by themselves we took 14 as a damn team like that’s 1992 uh type numbers like I think we averaged as a team the year we went to
The finals in 1992 we average like 13 threes as a team per game like that was a lot back then that was does and and that’s what I’m saying like I was in a time machine tonight I’m like yo we [ __ ] in 1992 like what are we doing I I could
Believe mie in the chat said uh Steph shot 22 threes yesterday there or 20 last night whatever it might be thank you Molly and and you know you look at you look at what Orlando did they shot their normal percentage they they shot like 33 34% which is right where they
Usually are last in the league so if you just shot normal the way the sun shoot from three it’s a different game as well yeah it’s just like a super frustrating and disheartening game because they had put together such a good stretch and like again the same as Friday night it’s
A disappointment when you kind of let a 40 piece go to waste you know what I mean that’s six consecutive games for the Suns with a 40 plus performance by a Suns player and then the second straight one that we’ve lost like I don’t know I
Don’t know I’m just really bummed like I I think going from a really long win streak to two L’s in a row that were basically at their own hands is super frustrating that’s the worst part about this is that you can look at these games
And point out like the Suns did that the Suns did that and it hurt them both times so it wasn’t even like I mean yes the Pacers are a good team and Orlando is no scrub either like we know that but a lot of times when the since the big
Three has been healthy right and we lose a a lot of it is is self-inflicted and that’s the worst part that’s the hardest pill to swallow with all of this because you’re not even letting them beat beat you you’re beating yourself here yeah yeah they beat themselves tonight Lind
Yeah I don’t know can we I don’t want to say this because I know I’m GNA get jumped on but uh if you even even if you look at that three game or the seven game win streak uh oh three of those games you came back from being down 16
Points or more right there were so that even that streak there were some significantly rough moments in games that that took Herculean efforts to overcome uh as well so I I still think this team has has flaws that they have to figure out how to how to address internally or
Externally at this point of of course they do I listen I in no way shape of this is where I live and some people may not like the way I view basketball Seasons but I don’t I I do not live on a day-to-day game by game basis when I’m involved in the
Basketball season I don’t I don’t get too high with a loss don’t get too high I would win you know I don’t live and die with wins and losses it’s an 82 Game season these things tend to balance out seven game win streak was cool now we’re
On a two game losing streak but you can kind of do that to every everything espo if you you can go to every team who’s won eight games in a row and pick games that they probably should have lost if they came back and I get that it was a
Little bit dramatic with the 20o losses but you can do that with anything you can pick injuries you can say well they didn’t have this guy that night or and we tend to do that a lot we tend to do that a lot we tend to look at what the
Suns do well and find something to counter it oh the Suns played well but they didn’t have Kyrie all the Suns played well but this team didn’t have halberton all the Suns played well but they didn’t have this oh they won the game but they had to come back like so
That I don’t get I don’t do that because if you’re G to do that you got to do that for everybody and I’m not I don’t have the time of day to go and break down every team and and how they’re doing things what matters is wins and
Losses and they got beat tonight and this is a team that’s a work in progress there’s no one there’s no one on planet Earth that I think thinks this team is a finished product we got a trade deadline just right down the road they’re trying to make a trade because they know
They’re not a finished product product and again there’s still a lot of reps to be uh caught up on with these key players and so um yeah I mean today was tough the pace of game was tough but I can easily see them coming in tomorrow winning tomorrow and and running this
Road trip you know and then and then we’re back to oh the Suns won four in a row but they didn’t play many good teams and I’m not saying you’re doing that espo I’m saying this is what happens like if they beat Miami and Washington
And whoever ever else is on the dock yet I can’t remember them all yeah the Nets right you know if they come out of the rest of this road trip and win the next you know sweep the rest of the road trip um I think they Salvage this road
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Right I do uh I don’t know if that was public knowledge so I I apologize no it was it was I’ll give out the address next of where it is but probably I I mean you’re going to have a bar there right this isn’t a dry wedding
Right no there will be a bar okay uh I hope I’m drinking for free but that’s not what this is about uh have you considered having some Four Peaks at S Bar I actually have yes okay I hope you don’t have cans that uh expired in uh
August of 22 uh I hope you have some fresh stuff but I I think you gotta consider it because this is some of the best beer the valley has to offer I love four Peak kiltlifter here one of my favorites I love me some kiltlifter and
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Tonight’s game I don’t really put a lot of of the blame at the feet of Bradley Beal for this one I know he was dealing with that mass situation literally the entire game you could see I mean yeah he started out real hot hit his first three shots and then completely went cold
After that but I think a lot of it had to do um with the mask issue because he was fiddling with it all night he took it off he put it back on he took it off again he kept it off like I feel like that was an issue and I’m concerned I
Know he gets one tomorrow that is more customed to his face which will hopefully help but I still think with the way if it looks anything like the maskk that he had on today I still think there’s going to be kind of a learning curve with having to play with that mask
On for him it’s hard I mean I I’ve I’ve I told you I broke my nose playing basketball I had to have surgery it’s hard it it changes it’s just weird it’s all meant to so I’m not blaming Brad no no way I’m not saying you were I’m just
Saying yeah no I get it uh Brad had a tough night tonight like I say came out and hit the first three and then he just couldn’t get a bucket he couldn’t get comfortable he was fidgeting all night and that gets in your head and um I give
Him credit for at least toughing it out and trying to be out there to help the team you know what I mean but once again it leads to why I think this game is more of an aberration than anything you got a brad Beal that’s not comfortable
Pro I don’t know how he’s breathing but I also could imagine you know he still could have some issues with with breathing with that uh with that broken nose and so uh it just leads to it just compounds everything and and that’s why I think tonight was just a terrible
Night across the board but good for him for trying to tough it out I I don’t know how they can I ask y’all this like I I was worried when he took it off when he came back in play and he took it off I there’s a part of me that felt that
Was a little irresponsible from like if that guy gets hit again in that nose and that spot that’s dangerous like that could lead a lot broken yeah but it could get more broken and and it could get more you know you know you can you can start messing with
Other stuff so yeah when he took it off I I almost felt like yo just take this dude out the game like he’s not comfortable get him out the reason you can’t do that is you you don’t have a bench who who you trusting to come in
And if Brad’s saying he wants to play I get that the coaching it’s on the coaching staff to say no you’re you’re putting yourself in danger uh but I also under the stand the the standpoint who am I putting in instead of Brad in this situation because I got Jordan Goodwin I
Got kbd I got Udan Nai do I do I want any of these guys coming in the game and that’s a fundamental problem on the roster that we talk about is like okay who am I turning to and that’s not an excuse to not take a guy out if there’s
A health concern but I guarantee it’s part of the thought process that they’re going through yeah and and I don’t think it’s a problem that’ll be fixed anytime soon both in terms of roster construction or in terms of be’s Comfort because I think most guys typically take
You know one to three games to kind of get acclimated to it and you know he’s gonna be wearing a different mask once he gets that custom mask so there’s kind of a different experience of what this mask feels like and what my comfort level is playing with this mask like
Obviously he wasn’t afraid for a guy who went out there and played without the mask on his face but it does change your mentals a little bit in terms of your driving or um being more aggressive and attacking the basket that sort of thing and it is something to get used to when
You’re shooting like we we talked about how the Suns went four of 14 from three and Bradley Beal was one of 10 after the three for three start he was 0 for five from three that’s a huge part of it because quite a few of those were pretty
Good and and those are shots that he’s been making at a pretty high clip for most of this season so uh except for the last two games and that’s the biggest adjustment I think as a shooter playing with that mask so hopefully you know after the Miami game he’ll be able to
Have this new mask get used to it and start looking more like the Brad Bill we’re used to seeing yeah because I mean even when Josh aogi was wearing his mask earlier in the season it had already been a while that he had it on and he
Was still talking about how it was affecting kind of his court Vision out there being able to literally not see everything that he is used to being able to see when he’s out there and uh someone in the chat brought it up too Marvin said plus the refs not calling
Fouls it was a pretty physical game at times in this one um especially for guys like Devin Booker I know we were all it’s easy to get mad about the refs and the officiating when you lose um but there were a couple times tonight where I think everyone collectively on Sun’s
Twitter was like WTF can we get a foul call yeah please did y’all did y’all see the interaction at the free throw line with Devin when he was chirping at he was chirping at Mark Davis and he literally told him he was like man I y’all can’t do this
All year like I got hit in the head three times he Lily you can you can go back and watch it Lily walked up to Mark Davids and was like Hey man y’all can’t do this all year I literally got hit three times in the head with no whistle
And then Paulo banero started chirping and him and book went back and forth at the free throw line um so that’s another part that you know this team tends to let the refs get in their heads and it’s a it’s a the entire team does it once
Once it snow it starts to snowball they’re all they all start complaining about CS I saw I CH I charted two of them today where they complained about Cs and didn’t get back on defense and so that’s a that’s an ongoing issue that needs to get taken care of I gotta say
Again I think the officiating was atrocious there was so many times that I thought the Suns got fouled on n1s and things that weren’t called but it is What It Is What You Gonna Do Like You Gotta play through that soank could get a fine yeah yeah book needs to stay
Within himself though because there was that play where he doesn’t get the call and he turns around and he gets the take fail immediately which was just a frustration hack at a guy move and and those kind of things you know help lead to that unraveling too you know is in
Part because if if you let it get in your head too much and the whole team did it but you wind up just starting to unravel unnerve and and you can’t do that because let’s be honest this is more what how the playoffs are called than uh than not they let physicality
Happen more in the playoffs than they do in the regular season so you’re gonna you’re G to notice that you know that’s going to happen and you got to be prepared for it and you got to be prepared for bad calls to happen especially when you’re on the road so
That’s another thing little things add up and and that’s one of those little things I agree yeah the take foul was bad and Ill timed I honestly didn’t think that issue in terms of arguing that the refs are letting it affect their play was as prominent tonight
Especially because like this is not the reason why the Suns lost the game and even if they had gotten the foul calls they shot 57% from the line so you too too upset about it but I I do think like there were a couple of plays that I was
Incredulous watching at home that book didn’t get a foul there was the one leftand layup that he hit over folz and I think it was Carter coming over from the weak side where he got whacked in the arm fell flat on his face like or on
His back immediately um it was just kind of like sitting up smiling like really that’s nothing and then there was the pull-up three he took in transition where he had to alter his shot and land you know split his legs when he landed because the guy’s foot was right
Underneath where he was going to land and then he stepped on his foot while the shot was the ball was still in the air like those are those are plays that are dangerous they should be called fouls and if you don’t call those as fouls then that sends the message that
Okay well we can rough these guys up because that’s our best Avenue to stopping them like the magic are already good enough defensive team if you give them that opening as well that makes it really tough so I I I in this instance I got books frustration the take foul was
Still a really poorly timed foul because every was falling apart at that point and like you said esbs those little things that add up um but tonight I didn’t feel like tonight was one of those mats where they let the officiating like griping about calls unravel them I think there was that play
Too go ahead go ahead ESO I was just gonna say the afro Buzz show brings up uh some of these some they it brings up a good point said uh against Indie uh committed no fouls in the fourth allegedly tonight Orlando committed one and it came with 316 left in the game
I mean is the math ain’t ma that ain’t that ain’t adding up and these teams are being really physical with the Suns in both games uh there was that play right before the half Gerald where book got the layup to end the half he was fouled
On that one too I slowed it down and rewinded and I’m like that’s a foul you know um and yeah the take foul again that was frustration we actually it didn’t affect the game actually because he missed the free throw on the take foul but uh I get the point
If he it’s just bad timing of it but uh yeah this is this is kind of the the shitty thing too is that and it’s not this is again this is not the reason why the Suns lost the game this is kind of
On a side but it sucks that it has to be on Frank vogle to go into his post conference raise a storm get fined yeah for the NBA to overcorrect the next time the Suns take the court and we’ve seen it with so many coaches this year last
Year we you know there was like the one time where Monty went off got fined in the next game or two the sun’s got a really generous whistle you shouldn’t have to do that like we need to fix the root of the problem which is just bad
Officiating and the fact that you have to [ __ ] and moan in your postgame press conference and pay a fine in order for the NBA to notice it and like I know they do the last two minutes report and they’re trying to be accountable and all this [ __ ] but like we there’s just way
Too much that goes on behind the scenes and anytime a player or or head coach criticizes the officials they find hell but there’s no there’s no accountability on the ref side and I know they get yelled at and it’s a hard job and all this stuff but like it just feels like
The NBA is dancing around the main problem which is that their officials need to be trained better to handle the game at its modern Peak like that’s it can can can we can I can I piggyback on that because I I’m gonna be honest guys first of all I think they need better
Training but the the the part that no one wants to talk about is personal bias like personal feelings like these refs I’m telling you I there are referees that have personal vendettas against certain players and and and call the games differently versus certain players and it’s a snowball effect
Throughout the season these guys talk to each other so yeah I mean there’s so many times where you can just look at who’s reing the game before the game starts how many times have we done that guys how many times have we looked at who’s reing this game I mean
It’s most it was mostly the Chris Paul era that was the most egregious of them yeah but I mean you know Mark Davis whenever Mark Davis refs we know the Suns ain’t getting CS you know uh Natalie whatever her name is you know we we’re like one in five when she ref G
Like so you can’t tell me that there’s I I seen it with my own eyes as a coach a and as a player going into different gyms and certain refs just you know they have personal issues and they refed these games these way this these way uh
That way and if people don’t believe that happens you’re in a fantasy land like there are there supposed to be professionals but it goes beyond that when you’re reing this many games and these many players and a player is constantly chirping at you and you have
The ability to just sit there and say well you want to chirp at me okay I’m gonna I’m gonna keep this whistle right here I’m not blowing so yeah that happens and this is why I get mad when the Suns start doing all this talking because I’ve always been the belief the
More you chirp at a ref the less you’re G to get the calls guys like these guys are human beings they have feelings just like you you pissed them off you’re not getting a call and if you pissed them off throughout the NBA season and they rep 20 of your games you’re probably
Gonna go into 20 games where you’re not g to get favorable cause well but that’s on the Suns then I mean honestly everybody deals with these shitty refs because they ref all these games this is an NBA wide problem it’s why we saw the Toronto head coach the Sacramento head
Coach lose their ever loving minds and get fined $50,000 because it’s a problem but that’s on Devin Booker it’s on Kevin dur it’s on everybody uh to not complain and cause it to be more because both sides are human and I get that but that’s this is a a a league problem and
Not a reason why the Suns at least tonight obviously no lost the game in any way they could be bad calls but the Suns just played poorly in particular in the fourth so you know the they didn’t have the refs there to bail them out when these turnovers weren’t going their
Way but man it’s a League wide problem but don’t exacerbate it by by complaining more like your point is there right and and to be clear none of us are saying that this game was lost because of the officiating it was just another wrinkle within this game that
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A couple good things that happened you guys want to hand out some flowers real quick so we’ll go ahead and start with our big bright shiny star of course it goes to Devin Booker he finished with 44 points four rebounds and three assists tonight um I don’t know about you guys
But I always enjoy uh watching Devin do Devon things that third quarter was kind of fun um just watching what Devon was doing out there it was and and look we nobody’s going to want to hear this right now on a two game losing streak but for six straight games we’ve had a
Phoenix Suns player score 40 points I think they put up a graphic during the game that that’s only happened three times in NBA history one was Michael Jordan during the 80s and one was Kobe Bryant in the early 2000s like yes it’s Devin Booker and Kevin Durant so it’s
Not one or the other but that’s still pretty cool to watch six straight games and watch six straight 40 Point performances it it’s annoying that book is still like the jokes are going to fly about him dropping another 40 piece in a loss again if you feel like that’s the
Reason the Suns lost the game I question your motives and I question whether you actually watch this game um but book has been great they just need to find a way to balance when he gets going still keeping other people involved as the game goes on yeah I mean go ahead go
Ahead I’m just gonna say look the six straight 40o games don’t matter because Kevin Durant didn’t have all six so had two of them and those two were fun yeah but not all six I mean listen they they six straight between the two of them Devin alone is on three straight
Currently and so yeah that’s that’s special stuff and I mean the dude got 44 tonight he shots 65% from the field 50% from three like Gerald said if you’re watching this basketball game and you come out of it saying Devin is the reason why we lost this game I don’t
Know what to tell you man I I don’t know what to tell you and be careful what you ask for like because you know PE players like Devin and Kevin they don’t grow on trees and so I’m never gonna look at a guy that has a game like that I will I I
Said this the other day there are games that I’ve seen Pro from professional basketball players 40-point games that weren’t great games and and I use Carmelo Anthony as the guy that I saw do a lot of that he would score 40 and then you look and the shooting percentages
Weren’t good and you know certain things like that you can say yeah you know he scored 40 but he took a ton of shots and he missed a ton of shots and there was no rhythm but no I mean this guy’s shooting Dam near 70% from the field I
Mean what if you came away with that yeah I’m sorry man yeah I mean I think you’re right Gerald though he could he does have the ability at times to get in that tunnel vision but he’s making shots at a high clip uh so I I
Get torn by it because should he be getting his teammates more involved maybe but this is the problem of putting Devin Booker in the position of being Point book where you’re asking him to go out there and be the Assassin but then when he doesn’t because he’s not getting
Or when he does then he’s not getting guys involved well that’s on Devin too where if you have if you have a ball distributor that guy’s going to get other people involved at times too it’s it’s this double-edged sword you’re damned if you do you’re damned if you
Don’t and you know and I’m not laying this loss at the feet of Kevin Durant but he had seven turnovers if those turn into four or five shot attempts he makes three or four of them his Knight and statline look different and maybe the sun’s Knight does does two as well so
There’s multiple factors that come into it but that’s that’s the problem with book having to be all everything all facilitator I think that’s only a problem from a narrative perspective though like book was really good in point guard mode for the first quarter like yeah he scored I forgot what it was
Eight or 11 points whatever it was in the first but it wasn’t like you know Armani mode everybody clear out the way Devon Booker’s going to work I think he had three assists in that first quarter it was the rest of the game as he heated up that the tunnel vision kind of
Focused there was one play where where they got an offensive rebound book had the ball on the Block and Grayson Allen was open and he didn’t hit him and he was right it was one pass away for Grayson Allen that should have been a pass and a three but because he was
Feeling it because he was in the zone he took the shot he missed that shot it it’s one of those things where yes the balance is harder to strike when you’re the point guard and when you’re you know leading the team and scoring on that
Given night the Suns have to find a way to manage it better when he does get into that that heat check mode to still keep other guys involved because I do think that contributes to okay fourth quarter now you’re asking Brad and KD to run the offense when you know it’s it’s
Been mostly the book show to that point and again this is not a a criticism or a complaint on Booker it’s more so they’ve got to find a way to incorporate those two identities to keep everybody involved in the offense flowing so that when he does sit it’s not like okay [ __ ]
Well I guess now it’s our turn we better turn it on real quick right and and and again that’s part of the continuity and getting used they got to Fig still got to figure this out you know when KD had 43 against the Bulls Devin had
16 and 11 shots right and the narrative that night was oh well KD had 43 and book gotta do better and so it’s back to esel’s point you damn if you do damn if you don’t if he scores under 20 it’s like you know what is Devin doing why is
He only taking 11 shots he goes out and shoots damage 70% gets 40 42 points and it’s like well he’s shooting too much so is there a way to find that Common Ground sure and I think that’s something they’re still working on the healthy balance is when they’re first of all the
Healthy balance is when they’re able to get theirs and then the other role players are also able to get shots Grayson only getting three shots tonight is is a noo it’s a no starter for me that guy is too good he’s the only 50 4090 guy in the league he needs more
Than three shots and the last last time he took three shots you know what that game was that was the Clippers yeah 27 point blowout so you want to do some math go go look at when Grayson takes three shots what happens to the Suns and so
This is two games in a row three shots blowouts um he’s got to be more involved and it’s Devin Kevin and Beal’s responsibility to find that common ground and get those other guys shots too and I think that’s what nerk helps um for everyone who’s mad that we’re celebrating don’t worry we’re
Going to celebrate Kevin right now um because KD has become the 10th player all time to score 28,000 points he is the fourth fastest by games played to reach that Mark uh you’ve got Wilt Chamberlain ahead of him Michael Jordan Kareem Abdul Jabar Katie and then LeBron James is right behind
Him and on top of that he also moved into 19th all time in three pointers made you want to take a guess who is in 18th Place on that list no I saw it on Twitter teammate it’s a teammate book yeah Gordon Gordon yeah Eric Gordon so
Shout out to KD because that’s um you know that’s history that that will remain long long past when he retires and stops playing in the NBA and it’s just further proof of his incredible career to this point and what he continues to be able to do yeah yeah absolutely it’s history we’re
Watching one of the alltime greats play for this team I will admit I’m a little confused why there are people complaining that we’re praising book when he’s the only one that played worth of [ __ ] tonight but um you know that’s for another time I I feel like Kevin
Durant like obviously the turnovers were bad tonight they need to get him more shots than 12 shots that’s not enough shots anybody can tell you that yeah um but again if you’re not turning the ball over 20 three times as a team even take you know a fourth of those and that’s
Six extra shots for Kevin Durant potentially so yeah the turnovers were the biggest thing tonight I I don’t know why parts of the fan base continue to pit book and Durant against each other it’s it’s it’s overblown and it’s aggravating and it’s gotten really old at this point already it’s pretty simple
It’s people who have followed KD from City to city that love Kevin Durant because he’s Kevin Durant and don’t want to see pass the fact that their guy doesn’t always have to be that guy every night and that’s it’s as simple as that and hey more power to you that you’re that you
Love a specific guy and you’re there with him right or die I I give you a lot of praise for that but that doesn’t mean it it completely changes the facts of the way things the way things are when you’re part of a big three you’re going
To have to sacrifice some Knights other guys are going to have to sacrifice other nights not everybody can score 40 I’m sorry three guys aren’t going to average 120 a night it’s just not going to going to happen all right so so put Drew hey Eric put Drew up uh right there
Drew just made a comment this is I’m I and Drew if I’m if I’m wrong here clarifying your next hit me up and let me know what you’re talking about here but you see this comment here Katie scored 43 in the Bulls and and and and it was a win Flex
Nobody blaming book for 16 right to me this is what I’m talking about like you emphasize when right you emphasize that KD scored 43 in a win book has 16 nobody blaming book there were people that were blaming book that night saying hey we were down KD had to save us because book
Only had 16 I remember it vividly okay um and then again selective Amnesia because book just had 46 in Dallas the other night in a win but we’re going to just roll over that one and where about the last two so it’s it’s it’s exhausting it’s ridiculous it’s Petty as
Hell like if we gonna talk Sons these are teammates these are two guys that admire each other these are two Hall of Famers Kevin Durant will be the first one to tell you I came to Phoenix to play with Devin Booker Devin Booker would be the first one to tell you I
Signed off I couldn’t wait to play with Kevin Durant I had his damn fat head on my wall what are we doing like what are we doing why does every night have to be uh Devin Booker Kevin Durant back and forth like I’m it’s exhausting guys and
Gerald said it uh pretty clear it’s it’s way old like it’s way old and it we gotta stop it we gotta stop it well and the the winning basketball argument keeps coming up I’m just gonna say this and you all can do what you will with it
But Kevin Durant’s been to one final without Steph Curry and Devin Booker’s been to one final without Steph Curry neither of them won so take that as it is too so yeah I mean I mean yeah go ahead ly I just want everyone to know that I love Kevin and Devin both of
Course we all we all it’s okay it’s okay to love both of them and to criticize them when they don’t play with like Kevin Durant he literally told D dra raiken like I started the game off with a turnover that encourages my teammates to turn the ball over he wasn’t good
Tonight he had seven of their 23 turnovers as a team that’s not good uh you can also say that he wasn’t good and the Suns still needed to get him more shots because both things can be true it doesn’t have to be a black and white
Team you can say like Devin Booker was fantastic tonight they still needed to move the ball a little bit more when he got into Armani mode like two things can be true at once it’s it’s gonna be okay I promise and de and Devin Booker had had fought tonight he was terrific but
Those four turnovers weren’t and so and the Miss free throws weren’t and you know if you go back and actually watch the basketball game the score doesn’t really tell you the whole story that game was a close basketball game up until the five minute Mark and then it
Just went completely like Haywire um and they so they had no business being in that game they should have gotten blown out a long time ago um but yeah I mean all those little things compiled and that’s the problem and I love Brad Beal and Brad Beal is not gonna shoot one for
10 many times he’s also not gonna be playing with a facial fracture couple days after it happened when like all this [ __ ] man we got to stop it um if you guys are feeling any typee of way you know what will make you feel better what planning lunch tomorrow at some
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Don sent us one thank you Don they said easily Beal and Katie’s worst game as a son yet Katie had a good game I like he was seven to 12 the turnovers were rough but as we said all three of the the big three had bad turnovers Bradley Beal I
Think you could argue you probably shouldn’t have played with the with the mask not being what it needed to be and everything and you know he made the first three shots and then disappeared from there but I’m not I I I it’s hard to put it on
A guy who has a broken face like yeah no okay he went out there with a broken face and didn’t play well I’m not gonna say I’m surprised right yeah for sure uh Vince sent us one they didn’t add a comment though but thank you Vince for
Your super chat if you want to drop your comment uh we’ll look for it you don’t have to send another Super Chat Don sent us another one thanks Don they said tons are small unathletic lazy and don’t learn worst possible combination I need Nick Richards on this team more than I
Need Aaron my Longs if you think all that yeah if you think Nick Richard is gonna fix all that you just said good luck and I and I know like i’ I’ve known about Nick for a while he’s from my area went to my high school I
Love Nick that’s a lot you asking for if You’ have said Shaq maybe uh Jacob sent us one and they said tired of the blind optimism we can’t pass re rebound or play defense also don’t run anything resembling a coherent offense also we lost the be trade okay
Yeah sell the team let’s sell the team let’s just sell a team it’s over Christ man come on I can I can get behind the passing the defense this team has not been a horrible rebounding team and they they weren’t horrible tonight they lost lost the rebounding in the second half I
Think they had four more in the first and they wound up losing the second second half battle but the rebounding no and how do you lose a trade when all you gave up was Chris Paul and you know and Landry shamut and some pick swap like
You I I think you can’t say you lost that deal at at worst I think you have a push at any point with that so well we were on a seven game win streak that wasn’t the narrative but in a row it’s like go ahead g go
Ahead Jacob I love you but middle of the pack and assist and assist percentage they’re a better statistical rebounding team than that like defensively yeah there’s concerns they’re still middle of the pack in that category as well and again that’s with most of their season coming without two or one of their big
Three which you need on a top T heavy team and I’m sorry like maybe maybe they don’t win a title maybe the Bradley Beal contract looks bad in a couple of years but you still make that trade 10 times out of 10 when all you’re giving up is
An aging point guard Landry shamet and some conditional picks like that’s a no-brainer I no sorry sorry Jacob but no Tony sent us one thank you Tony they said had to keep an eye on dad because I thought he was gonna have a heart attack
But we just need to flush this one and get ready for the heat I agree Tony there’s some things they can learn from it and take from it but gotta move on can’t linger too long because we do have a game tomorrow uh Jacob sent us one
Sorry go ahead ESO saying call the plumber Jacob said there isn’t a move at the deadline that saves this team okay no there’s not because we’ve we’ve been saying that all you’re going to do is Tinker on the edges and that’s fine because what you have on this team
Should be enough to win they still are in the process of figuring that out it’s just it’s going to take longer than half a season when for half of that half season you haven’t had your guys yeah right the fix comes internally they’ve got they’ve got to figure out how to how
To limit this stuff how to get in a mental place not to make these kind of lazy turnovers that’s that’s how you fix it you can add like you said around the edges but you gotta fix it by cleaning that stuff who’s the son’s leading rebounder this year guys
NK okay yeah I mean he didn’t play tonight right he didn’t play second half of last game sometimes it’s just like it’s mindblowing man like yeah nage fixes a lot of that we out we’re one of the best we’re one of the better rebounding teams
In the league we we we’re doing a fine job rebounding the ball this year uh nerk not being there is why you get outrebounded to the extent that you did maybe you don’t win it outright but it’s not as glaring if nerk plays this game and finishes the Pacer game John sentus
One thank you John they said small and unathletic and lazy get rounded down low I mean we are small that’s for sure sure yeah purin kitties said I want to see all caps team ball lazy ass Sons go ahead get them in guys get them
In get them in dogs get them in get them in Yeah Tim from Phoenix thank you Tim they said Grayson Allen didn’t miss a shot but only shot three times Eric Gordon shot five times and missed once why do they get seemingly left out of the offense
I I listen sometime there are some games where the game Flow just doesn’t find you um that Clipper game was one of them Grayson just couldn’t get into a rhythm and the ball didn’t find him I said a long time ago I like Grayson and Gordon
To be in that 20 shot mode combined and that’s that’s nowhere near enough eight between the two of them that’s just not I don’t think that’s good basketball and I don’t think you’re utilizing these guys um to the extent you can utilize them when they’re taking those little
Bit of shots but um I I think today was just one of those games that the ball just didn’t find Grayson for whatever reason um that’s not the norm icon said it’s easy to beat the Suns just stay close come to the fourth quarter and then come the fourth quarter
Just double the ball handler okay yeah should be a coach not go ahead do you finish no I’m just saying like if that’s the theory right and that’s what it is just I I don’t I don’t I don’t know I love you brother you’re like Mr positivity for the first
Three seconds we get to the super chats you’re like N Dog no you a bit pitchy I a I ain’t dealing with that uh John Lewis said uh trap and throw it down low and the Suns lose es I don’t know what else to say dog
Trevor sent us one and said we can’t afford to fall back in the standings I agree there I mean taking lves does suck uh libertarian Sasquatch Sasquatch sent us one and said seems like when book or Katie starts to cook the rest of the team gets complacent and once book goes
Cold everyone is now cold um I mean can kind of get what you’re saying because a lot of times you try and get to the hot hand a little bit more and you defer yeah and then you find yourself maybe out of a rhythm or haven’t ever gotten into a rhythm within
The game because you’re feeding the hot hands so I get that perspective is that coaching is that you know again is it is it not having plays that you run is it going away from things is it is it simply because these guys go ISO ball and then I I don’t know
To me to me I would think back to the Grayson and and Eric Gordon thing too that you have plays that when you feel like you needed to get those guys involved that you go to to try to find them an open shot right and keep them
Involved so I don’t know I don’t know where the blame lies on that yeah um no I mean it’s a rhythm thing and like the Dallas game it felt like book uh worked his way into to that 40 a little different than tonight tonight he
Kind of just like was like give me the ball I’m going to go I’m going to get it and there was a lot of standing around and and you’d like that to improve so I I’m not mad at what he said I there there’s some there’s some uh legitimate
Reasoning behind that and we’ve we’ve seen it with KD earlier in the season too there was a lot of games early in the season where KD would be cooking especially in fourth quarters and guys would just kind of sit back and watch and I that’s not a Booker or KD thing
That’s not a coaching thing it’s it’s kind of all of the above there just needs to be a better flow and I think the more time they spend on the court together hopefully they’ll start working towards that I kind of wonder if teams are forcing them into this a little bit
Too where it’s like all right we’re gonna let Booker get his and trying to take away everything I mean we talk about it with Luca that that should be your game plan you know let him get his and lock down on everybody else and you can you can potentially get a win here
So I mean is is some of it that is it is that possible with this you know I don’t I don’t think so I feel like the Pacers are a unique team like last game they’re a team that doesn’t like to double they like to guard straight up um and that’s
Why they’re one of the worst defenses in the NBA because they don’t have the Personnel for it but like even they were trying to double Booker down the stretch last night to get the ball out of his hands because he was burning them we saw the same thing late in the third quarter
Fourth quarter from the magic they were doubling book to try and get the ball out of his hands they just they need to be better at operating out of those double teams um you know book it it feels like sometimes it takes one or two possessions for him to figure out how
They’re doubling him and then at that point he’s good at getting off of the ball um but the Suns need to be better at attacking those advantages when they have those fouron three situations too and tonight it didn’t feel like they either hit the shots or generated the right shots out of those
Looks uh Kev sent us one thank you Kev they said cheeks ISO ball equals L’s and unselfish basketball equals W’s yeah I’m very thankful that we have all collectively agreed to adopt the phrase of cheeks in uh a way to describe what we all think is just shitty you know what I love
Though abely love it when somebody’s new in here and they hear us what the hell did they just say that’s my favorite joke for us thank you all for providing that and like joining in on it uh Adrien sent us one they said I have a question what happens
When teams can guard all of the big three at once horrible lost man we got to be better tomorrow they can guard you they can guard all of your big three when those big three are not not all you know doing stuff like if it’s one guy you can guard
One guy you can’t guard the big three when the ball’s moving and when nerk and Grayson are out there too and that’s that’s one thing again they miss nerk tonight in that regard to keep the ball moving a little bit but again there’s got to be a better balance there yeah uh
Don davius said I don’t want to be that guy but KD shouldn’t be getting in flame Wars 30 minutes before a game he can’t be looking past opponents like that uh he’s talking about feuding with um people on Twitter before the game uh we’ll get into that ahead of the Nets
Game that he was on Twitter like I want to say an hour before no it was it was about 30 minutes you’re right 20 minutes before the game actually I think Don he’s he’s locked in all the time though so like don’t don’t bring up this
Stuff um I think we missed one from my kka and I don’t know where oh wait there it is says we need a guy like Chris Paul you mean five year younger Chris Paul yeah uh p and kitties said we don’t play hard every game pure lazy puke face
Emoji I mean listen there are times where I agree I don’t think that we play up to our full um potential as far as effort goes every single game I don’t know that any team does in the NBA all games thank um but it does frustrate me
At times especially when when we point out things like okay when you’re going back to the fourth quarter right and I don’t know if it was Flex or espo or Gerald one of you said something along the lines of like you know in fourth quarters that’s when teams really clamp
Down and throw their most at you they play their hardest well if that’s how the game works then why aren’t we also doing the same thing yeah and sometimes that does frustrate the hell out of me yeah you know I will say this and and again flame me if you want
Chad I I will I will say personally if nerk doesn’t leave that Indiana game I actually think we win that game and I think if nerk plays tonight there’s a good chance we win tonight too and so this is why I’m not overreacting and I never overreact to anything in a regular
Season I just don’t because there’s variables that come into play did uh you know I I got no problem saying that if nurk played the whole Pacer game and played tonight the Suns probably be on a nine game win streak but he didn’t and uh and they took two losses but they
Just came off of seven they’re one of the hottest teams in basketball before these this low hiccup so man it’s hard this is why it’s a 82 Game season and for everybody tripping go back and look at what the Miami Heat were looking like at the end
Of the year last year like it’s a long season man you just gota let this stuff work yourself out all right the haunted kiwi sent us one and they said not a real Contender no chance mid three equals playing okay Miami was a playing last year they made the
Finals I’m just I’m just bugging guys like it’s this is getting crazy it’s okay let them let it’s so it is okay for people to feel emotional about losing games when you are a fan that’s literally as well don’t you say this all the time like fan is short for fanatic
Like there are going to be times where your team pisses you off to the point where you get a little bit emotional about things and you say things and then the next G the next day or game when they win you feel completely different it’s like let it all out it’s fine vent
Get it off your CH I don’t I don’t go ahead just be nice about it I suppose maybe that disclaimer at least yeah I mean feel however you want to feel cheer however you want to cheer but like it’s probably not healthy to live your life that way just saying like if you’re
Saying [ __ ] if you’re no no no fanatic is not a good term it’s not an okay term to be a fanatic like be a fan don’t be a fanatic because then you say [ __ ] you don’t mean and then you wake up the next day and you’re like well I probably
Shouldn’t have said that I don’t actually feel that way I mean I feel like been guilty of that a little bit maybe not you Gerald because you have the big J journalism uh in your soul but I’ve been guilty of that before yeah so I don’t know I guess I can’t
Blame him since I’m literally a culprit of the same thing caral I went to the Dom Toretto School of life and I live it one quarter mile at a time all right my blood pressure is 110 over 70 because I just don’t let this [ __ ] drive
Me crazy like that that’s a lie yes you do uh Tony sent us chat and Tony said we need to go back to putting world and get that Karma back LOL oh yes alcohol back yes 100% the haunted kywi sent us one thank you they said 500 basketball teams are a dime a
Dozen uh mka sent us not 500 we were just eight games above 500 but okay we’re 500 now M cocka said Grayson Allen field goal three of three three point one of one one for one uh never went to him in the fourth quarter yeah it’s true
I mean listen you’re not the only yeah yeah and he sent another one they said two players hotter than Booker tonight Grayson Allen at 100% shooting and Eric Gordon at 85% shooting they should have gotten more touches and more shots they should have they should have we also saw Eric Gordon start something
Like four for five last game and then in the fourth quarter dude couldn’t hit anything so they’re there’s there’s a concern around Eric Gordon for sure not a guarantee he’s going to continue shooting at an 80% C right yeah um mamady Dia said I don’t know basketball but I blame
Book that’s fair you know well let’s focus on the we’ll F we’ll focus on the first part of that Super Chat because they go hand inand if you’re blaming book I’m sorry yeah um I A A sent us one and they sent us two actually they said wasted clock
Played ISO the rest just watched and then then they sent another one and said Flex on the bright side there is now a zero 0% chance of losing the next game whoever it’s against team chemistry has increased because of this bad loss I hope so I mean you would think that this
Loss is going to make them go to Miami tomorrow and lock in and and do what they got to do but I again I’ll stress I’m hoping nurk is back tomorrow because he’s a big part of this basketball team whether whether people want to admit it
Or not I think people take him for granted and the box score doesn’t always tell you how good of a basketball player nage is IQ and he he’s a glue guy Gerald said it before the game he’s one of those connectors and he’s a glue guy
That means a hell of a lot more to this basketball team then people give him credit for um so I hope nerk is back if nerk is back tomorrow I feel good if he’s not back tomorrow hey we’ll see well here’s a stat to make you feel good
They have not lost a game after they lost the previous game by double digits this season so so there is something for you to feel a little bit better uh you’re saying they take this personal appar like we do yes they they they Flex it all right they take it
Personal uh beast mode sent us one and they said Katie has the most touches per game the last three games for all the ktie fans blaming book okay I don’t want to go down that um Tim from Phoenix thank you Tim they said I gotta say Lindsay espo and flex
Hat game is on point thanks Tim appreciate appreciate you uh Leo sent us one and they said these things take time they sure do baby these things take time Johnny Boy sent us one and they said do you think Chris Paul’s 30 mil is better
For book than Bill’s 60 mil if CP three can get Booker to his spots in the fourth instead of isos and pick and rolls doesn’t matter because this is where you are right now and I can’t turn back the clock you know five months six months seven months you know so apparently the
Chat blames me though at least a a portion of it for what I said after the uh after the Mavericks game so I’m gonna say it in reverse so we can break the curse all right NBA MBA the in team best the r Suns Phoenix the there you go I
Reversed it we’re good now all right that’s talent brother that’s talent to write it out to do it I mean I don’t blame you that would have been hard to say I was gonna say how long did it take you to chart that out in the middle of
Show it okay there you go Mar all right guys any final thoughts before uh we get out of here no we got it all off our chest out tomorrow bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow there’ll be suns in Miami yeah Sky not falling sky not falling these guys would be fine um
There’s one thing that I want to uh mention from the chat Eli said I want to see Gerald and a beanie LOL Gerald can we make this happen one day I have a beanie I’m I just don’t have I don’t have a head for hats I I look Strange In
Hats it’s a weird thing beanies though because I can’t pull off hats either I can’t pull off beanies it just I look like a I don’t know like a 12-year-old child on a on a snowy hill like I I don’t it’s not a good look for me but I
Can wear a beanie for a show just for shits and gigs hey G you know what a you know what you you ever see the Kango hats the L coj Kango hats you can’t rock Kango no no that might be a little too extra for Gerald I can’t even Rock like
A regular baseball hat like just yeah my head’s just weird I don’t know let’s do can we do we love you the way you are G we love you the way you are G can we do a whole Beanie show where you all wear a beanie with me yeah
Hands are on I’m down let’s do it yeah F on yeah you guys will be fine I do it all the time all right Beanie tomorrow we got it no not tomorrow because I won’t be here tomorrow the boys got you all covered tomorrow uh maybe later this
Week we’ll plan it Gerald we’ll plan we’ll plan I gotta get my be we should do it without her we should all wear beanies without her oh gee gee you on to something here brother you Chelsea would come All Out Boy I never forgive you for that be so upset I
Would all right guys thank you all for joining us we hope that um Sun’s basketball and the enjoyment that you get from it is better tomorrow and uh that you’ll join us tomorrow as well we’ve got a pregame show 30 minutes before tip off and a postgame show of
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Take us home can we please pour one out for Devon Booker not just not because of the last two games but did you see what his Detroit Lions just did oh Hoy we all sitting like the May
The Phoenix Suns and Devin Booker fall to the Orlando Magic and Paolo Banchero X-X. Devin Booker had another big scoring night finishing with 44 points. But turnovers, bench contribution and lack of three-point shooting did them in again and allowed Orlando to seal the deal. Join the PHNX Suns Podcast for the Suns at Magic postgame show to talk through it all. And don’t forget to follow the show on social @PHNX_Suns.
0:00 Intro
1:00 4th quarter a problem yet again for the Suns, is it an identity problem?
20:00 Awful turnovers yet again
24:00 Looking at the numbers
33:00 Not putting a lot of blame on Bradley Beal for this one… but the refs?
48:00 Looking at our bets
50:40 Devin Booker is our star of the game yet again
57:00 KD with another scoring accolade
1:05:00 Looking at super chats
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41 Comments
Time too fire Vogul and get a real coach.
Even since we lost back to back to Spurs we haven't looked good as a team
Trade for Og and get a quality big mam
Trade for PG
Suns ain't winning shit
Grayson Allen is not getting his Shot
How much better would the Suns be with Tye Lue as their head coach ?
19 PT 4th qtr. Going to lose with that.
You would think they learned from the previous games and switch it up a little bit like be creative. They seemed to have said listen we lost only by 2 so let’s try it again. Is it the players or the coaches decision cause it’s not fooling anyone what they are running out there. I would take having just one player scoring without getting the rest going as the opponent. And then put extra pressure on that hot hand in the fourth forcing others who have not found rhythm beat you. It doesn’t matter who you are if you don’t get shots up before 4th quarter and get cold it’s harder later on. Why do guys shoot before game and halftime to get in rhythm. This is not on Booker honestly cause they keep just deferring to him even after he passes to them. We know he is hot and so does the defense. Make sure everyone else takes the shots when open and available to even open Book up for a bigger score if that is what you want. Okay the other 2 big pieces are not involved enough and what about Allen who has been solid all season. Give some shots to him too. What are we doing going backwards and forgetting it’s a team sport.
Let's be real guys they're not beating the Clippers, Nuggets to come out the West… To many mistakes.. to small in the paint.. and not Coach well enough 🤷🏿
56:12 The difference is KD had 8 assists in that Bulls win along with 40pts. “Point” Book is only getting 3 or 4
Suns can’t even beat the Magic Really?
This fan base will never win nothing .. Booker is the most stupidest player have ever seen.. everybody knew the ball wasn’t moving and y’all want KD to save the day in the 4th. You all are crazy
Definitely need to make that bridges and richards trade ASAP
Get rid of naz little, jurkic and damian lee
Holly crap, I thought we were over talking about the Suns folding in the 4th. I thought the Suns were finally tired of getting sand kicked in their faces down the stretch of games. There are multiple problems that need to be addressed with the Suns. NBA scouting report on the Suns says, apply a little pressure on the ball handler, and they will cough the ball up at will. The Suns need to go practice with some grade school basketball Team and relearn the fundamentals of dribbling the ball and making smart passes. KD stands at the 3 point line on offense and watches the game way too much, he might as well have a Coke and a Hotdog while he's watch booker hit another jump shot then fold in the 4th. How about moving without the ball or crashing the offensive boards everytime Okogie or Beal misses another shot. If the shots aren't going in, take it stong to the hoop, get a foul or an easy dunk when your missing your layups as well. On paper the Suns should be at the top of the NBA, along the Celtics and Nuggets. I still think Vogel sucks.
And throw in kata bates diop also
I get it turnovers is the thing but we are not going to win much with Booker taking half of the Suns shot attempts for the game. Nobody sets the offense up. Just dribbling around and taking turns. They're should force pullup threes with that kind of shooting talent on the roster
Why didn't Brad have a custom mask for tonight? That's my question
We can ignore the truth all we want but the stats continually show when we lose that we have excessive turnovers and we get physically abused in the paint and our bench can't score or defend. So, i'll say it again. We need a real pass first poinguard, a big tough and ph6sical rebounding power forward and an aggressive shotblocking center. I know people's response is well then , who do we go get. That is james jones job, not mine. He hand selected this roster. This roster is on him. We need some youth, size athleticism, post and perimeter defense. That's alot of problems to fix so we better start now. Looking at other teams in the west we are delusional in thinking we are legit contenders. The thought that the clippers or a young, rebuilt thunder team could win a title before this current team makes me sick. James jones needs to swallow his ego for wing players and rebalance and re-tool this roster with the right players and young talent. If he wants to resist this and embrace his former boss's philosophy( sarver) then he needs to be fired immediately.
Lowkey we should trade KD for superstar PG , I can’t think of any but book needs to play SG off ball and he’ll average 35 easily . Maybe Trae Young And capela for KD ? Idk man
To be honest I can do without Flex on this show 😡
yeah he was busy cooking a second loss for this team. The suns were winning when kD was in control. Everyone was getting touches and producing on offense. Booker has changed the formula and the team is struggling. Dbook just wants to score, the dude is a 1 dimensional player it seems. He's not making anyone better. Booker needs to accept being Robin
Not sure why Ishbia or James Jones thought constructing a team with no defense and rebounding would succeed. And the last team Vogel was on desperately wanted him gone. This is on the front office.
I think the refs hate Booker. It’s something he does that pisses them off.
Man kd would of killed if his teammates wasn’t hurt in nets an pandemic. Stop the one with out curry curry was robin
This time was also because the refs? Lol
They forcing too many shots at 4th that’s just like the snowball effect. move the ball and make the right pass!!!! And Kevin Young’s offense system should be abandoned
I question any fans opinion who DOESN'T think that one guy hogging so many shots is NOT any kind of problem..? Selfish iso ball breeds THE WORST type of offence, a very static and lifeless one which ultimately costs a team.. Players get used to not being used, they don't get the shots so no chance to get in rhythm, team moral and player effort takes a huge plummet, and it usually catches up late in games when a defence is still fresh and an offence isn't in gear. We've seen ALL this, constantly, this season. To deny it is silly. It's right there to see.
Devin is an elite scorer for sure, and the Sun's success lays massively on his shoulders. But so do their failures when he's got tunnel vision and puts his own shot above that of the best one for the team. To pretend he is absolutely blameless when he affects so many possessions in losing efforts, is just to ignore a problem which has plagued the team for years. And will not change while no one wants to address it. Too much iso tunnel vision is BAD FOR ANY TEAM, and it's no coincidence that Booker's biggest scoring games resulted in losses.
But sure, let's keep praising him and wondering what keeps going wrong..
Booker must get other's involved
It's getting to a point to where we need AI refs in the NBA I think the important part will be for bettng and for getting the games called right without human emotions
Can talk about firing frank we need to play in a system, we r not gonna win going one on one iso ball… especially when team decides to double team at the top key.. I cringe by the way they play almost hard to watch sometimes
COACH VO HAS TO GO
Booker sucks ballhog
Custom mask seriously? if you are not playing well you should just rest… it’s just me thinking everyone like “hero” and “nice people”
Y’all should point out the obvious… book is a ball hog with a hero complex that feels KD threatens his “books team” imagine… it’s destroying the team not getting the players involved.
Lmao “if you think book taking that many shots is the reason” wtf IT IS the team HAS TO BE INVOLVED book more attempts means he’s less productive on defense the rest on the team is cold when we need them and often not involved on defense because they arnt involved offensively… I question YOUR knowledge of basketball if you think otherwise the MEDIA is talking about bookers selfish play but you die hard book fans can see what’s right in front of you
There a reason we look better with kd leading… there a reason kd is in the all star game and book is jacking 60 shots a night to try to make the team… booker style is killing everything we had built
I’m not dragging anyone on the team until booker starts involving them..
This is what happens when somone gets jealous and starts being a ball hog with a hero complex… y’all expect the TEAM to play but we got 1 guy jacking all the shots and refusing to involve his team
Problem in the 4 th quarter was they went almost 10 minutes without a field goal. Durant had 1 at 10:10 mark and didn’t have another one til Goodwin got one with 57 seconds left