[Doug Thonus] “Your daily, Vuc isn’t good stat: He’s 44th out of 44 centers that have played 500 minutes in offensive efficiency. The gap between him and 43 is .029 TS% which is bigger than the gap between #43 and #35.”
“He’s the least efficient scoring center in the NBA by a huge margin.
Also, his career average would still be last. It’s not just a bad year.”
I mean this isn’t surprising. He’s a jump shooting big that shoots 3s and his 3 point percentage is ass right now. He is still decently efficient inside the arc.
I still know that he adds way more on offense than some of those others on the list with his ability to pass the ball and draw players away from the basket enough (not to the 3 point line but even for the mid range jumper). Not all centers have that although it is becoming more common as the rim runners slowly become a more dying breed.
GuyWithNoSwagger
He was a beast in Orlando and the moment he was traded to the Bulls he immediately became a worse version of himself
zachlabean
This Doug Thonus guy is a certified hater. Twitter allowing anyone to have verification is so annoying cuz this guy doesn’t deserve to have any level of verification.
Repulsive-Office-796
I thought I was the biggest Vuc hater in this sub, but I guess not. He is hurting this roster by being on the court. He is a massive defensive liability and is a lazy rebounder. He also needs to only drift outside the 3PT line to set screens. He can’t shoot 3’s consistently enough for the volume that Billy let’s him shoot. He is good inside on offense… and that’s it. There are probably 40 other guys in the league that I would take over him.
BlondBadBoy69
If they coach him to get in the paint like Drummond, the numbers might move in a better direction. He plays so small for a center.
I miss the days when Tyson Chandler, Joakim, or Ben Wallace were our Bigs
SolidSilver9686
Everyone here for the last three years: “yeah but who could we find that’s better?”
The answer: pretty much anyone.
bipolarearthovershot
Thank you for enlightening us OP. In addition to the butt cheeks 3 pt%…he misses a ton of 6-8 foot jump hooks with his right hand. His defense is also not good because his feet are way too slow on close outs and recoveries when his man rolls to the lane. How this franchise could sign this guy for 2 more years of mediocrity is beyond me
Mr-Chip18
Lol at people STILL defending Vuc. He fucking sucks and that trade single handedly ruined this franchise for 10 years minimally. Bulls are stuck with him until the contract runs up and knowing AK he will just extend him again because AK is horrible and has no plan B
RackMC
We gave up 2 first round draft picks for this man, one of them being Franz Wagner. Let that sink in
thatguyad
He doesn’t do the job we need him to. Drummond is the better option
H_Vaughn
Yeah butt, double-doubles!!!
d-cent
Vuc is the most obvious needed upgrade on the Roster. If we were to trade Demar or Lavine, it should be for a good center so we can trade Vuc or move him to the backup role.
I’ve been saying for a while, Drummond deserves more minutes. Vuc and Drummond both have weaknesses but they compliment each other very well. The problem is Billy does a horrible job playing them with matchups or riding the the hot hands. Billy just puts Vuc out there for 80% of the minutes every night no matter what team we are playing or what center is out there. It’s infuriating.
Cozum
we gave him an extension too lmao
kingjuicepouch
At least we didn’t sign him to a sweetheart extension right? Oh
trubiskywetrust
Oh man! That’s bad.
caseylk
Wish he was in trade talks
Rshackleford22
I thought he was looking solid to start the year too.. Man that trade was just a bust.
RandorMan12
Honestly I get some of the hate for Vooch, but he really is so vital for our offense. Everyone acts like any center can pass like him, but it’s just not the case, if Drummond attempted even half the passes Vooch does he’d average 4-5 turnovers more a night. I think we need to just have Vooch only shoot 2-3 3s per game, if he makes them go ahead and shoot 5, if he misses get your big ass in the paint or take those midranges. His percentages would slowly go up if it was limited, but Billy seems to like running plays for open 3s for Vooch, which seems like a bad idea when you can run them for Ayo instead who is a much better shooter this season. They’re sagging off of both of them, give it to the guy who is hitting them at a respectable rate and still being left open.
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I mean this isn’t surprising. He’s a jump shooting big that shoots 3s and his 3 point percentage is ass right now. He is still decently efficient inside the arc.
I still know that he adds way more on offense than some of those others on the list with his ability to pass the ball and draw players away from the basket enough (not to the 3 point line but even for the mid range jumper). Not all centers have that although it is becoming more common as the rim runners slowly become a more dying breed.
He was a beast in Orlando and the moment he was traded to the Bulls he immediately became a worse version of himself
This Doug Thonus guy is a certified hater. Twitter allowing anyone to have verification is so annoying cuz this guy doesn’t deserve to have any level of verification.
I thought I was the biggest Vuc hater in this sub, but I guess not. He is hurting this roster by being on the court. He is a massive defensive liability and is a lazy rebounder. He also needs to only drift outside the 3PT line to set screens. He can’t shoot 3’s consistently enough for the volume that Billy let’s him shoot. He is good inside on offense… and that’s it. There are probably 40 other guys in the league that I would take over him.
If they coach him to get in the paint like Drummond, the numbers might move in a better direction. He plays so small for a center.
I miss the days when Tyson Chandler, Joakim, or Ben Wallace were our Bigs
Everyone here for the last three years: “yeah but who could we find that’s better?”
The answer: pretty much anyone.
Thank you for enlightening us OP. In addition to the butt cheeks 3 pt%…he misses a ton of 6-8 foot jump hooks with his right hand. His defense is also not good because his feet are way too slow on close outs and recoveries when his man rolls to the lane. How this franchise could sign this guy for 2 more years of mediocrity is beyond me
Lol at people STILL defending Vuc. He fucking sucks and that trade single handedly ruined this franchise for 10 years minimally. Bulls are stuck with him until the contract runs up and knowing AK he will just extend him again because AK is horrible and has no plan B
We gave up 2 first round draft picks for this man, one of them being Franz Wagner. Let that sink in
He doesn’t do the job we need him to. Drummond is the better option
Yeah butt, double-doubles!!!
Vuc is the most obvious needed upgrade on the Roster. If we were to trade Demar or Lavine, it should be for a good center so we can trade Vuc or move him to the backup role.
I’ve been saying for a while, Drummond deserves more minutes. Vuc and Drummond both have weaknesses but they compliment each other very well. The problem is Billy does a horrible job playing them with matchups or riding the the hot hands. Billy just puts Vuc out there for 80% of the minutes every night no matter what team we are playing or what center is out there. It’s infuriating.
we gave him an extension too lmao
At least we didn’t sign him to a sweetheart extension right? Oh
Oh man! That’s bad.
Wish he was in trade talks
I thought he was looking solid to start the year too.. Man that trade was just a bust.
Honestly I get some of the hate for Vooch, but he really is so vital for our offense. Everyone acts like any center can pass like him, but it’s just not the case, if Drummond attempted even half the passes Vooch does he’d average 4-5 turnovers more a night. I think we need to just have Vooch only shoot 2-3 3s per game, if he makes them go ahead and shoot 5, if he misses get your big ass in the paint or take those midranges. His percentages would slowly go up if it was limited, but Billy seems to like running plays for open 3s for Vooch, which seems like a bad idea when you can run them for Ayo instead who is a much better shooter this season. They’re sagging off of both of them, give it to the guy who is hitting them at a respectable rate and still being left open.
Yikes
Fuck it let’s give him an extension