Coby White Season High Leads To A Chicago Bulls Bounce Back Win

Coby White Season High Leads To A Chicago Bulls Bounce Back Win

You found yourself on another episode of Locked on bulls on today’s episode me and Pat are going to talk about Kobe White having his season high in a win against the Charlotte Hornets we’re also going to talk about Casey Johnson’s recent comments on Zack LaVine and the athletic reporting that the Bulls are

Expected to have a quiet trade deadline continuity wins once again we’re going to talk about it all and more on today’s locked on bulls you are locked on bulls your daily podcast on the Chicago Bulls part of the locked on podcast Network your team every Day thank you for tuning in to locked on bulls member of the locked on podcast Network where it’s your team every single day that’s Pat the designer host and creator of the windy city Breeze and host of the Chicago Bears podcast over ESPN 1000 I’m Hayes host creator of

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$100 Pat man uh Kobe white in this game man like fourth quarter Kobe was lit like they they they dear and Kobe flip rolls uh Demar was what 0 for five in the four quarter of this game Kobe white was like four of eight 10 points in the

Fourth quarter uh he finishes the game with a near triple double at 35 points seven rebounds nine assists three turnovers in the game going 12 of 22 from the field Pat how do you feel about the game that Kobe white played and the Bulls pulling out the win this is what I

Wanted yesterday this is exactly what I wanted to see from Kobe white and a lot of people were very upset in the comments and on Twitter oh Pat you want to see Kobe white take bad shots why you you he’s just want want him to force up

Shots no I don’t want Kobe white to force up shots I’m not looking for Kobe white to take bad shots I’m looking for Kobe white to take his shots and tonight is a night where you saw his handle allow him to put himself in position for

Continuous shots and when he had a bad quarter that second quarter was tough got to the free throw line a lot the benefit of getting some of those calls right but it was a bad shooting quarter for him he didn’t really get much to fall in that quarter but it didn’t stop

Stop him from shooting the basketball in fact he turned it up in the second half and so when I watch tonight’s game this is the Kobe white I was looking for last night this is the guy that I wanted to see and it’s not taking bad shots if you

Can make those shots bad shots at a shots you can’t make what did Patrick Ying say do you practice that shot that’s not oh Ros is the best bad shot maker in the NBA but to the fans I get what you’re getting at but but it’s not

A bad shot for him just as a little as a little I did specifically asked you if you wanted him to take bad shots and you said yes I mean here’s the thing it’s it’s not a it’s not a it’s not a bad shot for him and I think tonight you saw

A lot of those bad shots that yes there’s a Defender closing out there’s somebody with a hand in his face those type of things but he’s creating just enough space with his handle to get that shot out where we would look at him and

We’ be like Ah that’s a bad shot not if you’re I wouldn’t say that I don’t think that just just because somebody’s closing out on you doesn’t necessarily make it a bad shot I think the between this game and the Raptors game is the length that was on the court so it’s

Harder to create that space against the The Defenders on the Raptors but I will say this game that Kobe white did a really good job at managing and and and staying aggressive right because there were some period you mentioned that second quarter absolutely where uh Kobe could have could have kind of deferred

More and we saw Kobe uh really step up big throughout the stretch of this game and lead the Bulls in scoring but also we did see him facilitate some as well those nine assists Kobe White’s starting to get to the point to where his facilitating the basketball IQ that he

Has and how that leads him to facilitate is great he could have easily had 10 assists there were two opportunities where he did that wraparound pass where he drew the defense in and Bo just couldn’t convert you get those you’re talking about 11 assist in this game I

Love that IQ that’s coming from Kobe white now that we’re starting to see not only is the matching the skill he has on the court and refining that that basketball IQ for Kobe right now is one of the things that I don’t think anybody talks about enough because you know

Just’s going talk about scoring things like that but it’s that it’s those decisions that we’re starting to see Kobe make outside of him the scoring situations that are putting him in a position where he’s just he’s just affecting the game throughout the whole game and I love I love when he has that

Impact yeah and I think the thing is right is becoming instinctual for right it’s one of those things where he just it’s it’s why I’m talking about the shots he’s taking the shots he’s making the pass he’s right like the things that he’s doing are now becoming second

Nature to him where it’s just a part of his game that’s why to me you can’t have those games where Kobe white stopped shooting because I think you look at the rest of the team in this game right yeah V had a good game and Kobe had a good

Game but outside of that stat lines look very similar right like in the last game B had a bad game tonight Demar just kind of he took the backseat roll in this one and things weren’t falling as well for him four for1 on the night right like

That that’s okay to have guys do that it just now that we have a young player who seems like he’s ascending and having a career night I thought he bowled out tonight I thought he had everybody else on a string it always cracks me up because usually when Kobe gets to about

That sixth rebound every night I go he is 6’5 ain’t he it’s not just me dog it’s not just me did you see Pat Bev said the same thing yeah said I thought he was small till I met him yeah people forget that that Kobe white is

Technically a big point guard like and and and I think IO too IO is now he’s playing he’s playing the three or the two because moving Caruso to the three but like there there’s they have the side and they have the length and then when they get out in transition they

Both are high enough IQ basketball players there is beautiful basketball to watch yeah and I I think the fact that you’re seeing those two work so well together love what we’re seeing from IO dumu and more of a I think right like we talked about this offseason more of an

Off ball role for Io right and him being able to be this is Illinois IO this is the io dumo at Illinois he wasn’t this Elite facilitator guys he was an off ball guy that listen you get him in a pick and roll with v he can drop the

Dime V he can facilitate the ball with the best of him out there if you get him in the right situation but he’s a guy that can go out there and score the ball in these situations where somebody else may be taking a focal point right in college

That was Kofi now it’s Kobe Kobe much better than Kofi that’s just how it works out so he’s been he’s able to get so many open looks off of that and this season the biggest difference is I think he was getting a lot of these open looks

Last year but he was so open it was almost like it killed his confidence right Dwayne Wade said the hardest shot to take is the open one so like you see you’re seeing him finally be able to knock those down tonight and the contested lays as well and different

Things like that that he was making last season but it’s good to see these two young guys work so well together tonight and be able to come out with a dominant win yeah I mean and I love that it is the young players that are really

Helping to keep this team at this level and you know I can’t wait to Pat gets back and hopefully he’s he’s a little bit more healthy hopefully we see a little bit more Pat that we saw at the beginning of this stretch without Zack LV but uh just it’s really good to see

These players play together now bounceback game for vuin away I know that we were building it mainly around the segment about Kobe white and it should be he deserves to be thato that story but how did you feel about the play from Nicola vich as this game went

On I feel like not only did he play better as the game went on but I feel like we also did a better job as a team identifying where to get him the ball and it helped him out in those scenarios yeah today felt like a day where Vu was doing

The it felt like Vu was playing his role the way that he wants to play it today right and I think that’s the biggest difference with v there’s a lot of times where Vu is playing his role on the team but it’s not how he wants to do it this

Was a lot of V down low which opens up things outside for which opens up things in the mid-range form opens up that little turnaround float shot that he’s got right like but it was a lot of him early on where in a game where I think

Usually he struggles a little bit with some of these younger bigs that have come into the league Nick Richard’s a guy who has kind of given Vu a little bit of work this season not crazy work I’m not gonna say got he’s given him crazy work but it’s giv him like Vu you

Should be killing this dude what are you doing tonight tonight he was like listen you’re you’re not gonna dominate me down here they’re feeding me the ball where I want it I thought V took advantage of matchups that he was able to go after and uh I thought he didn’t he didn’t

Make things tougher on himself than they needed to be agree 100% agree with that and that listen it’s just simple bad simple game to quote Stacy King is a simple game in the Bulls as this game went on took care of those simple things more that helped them get this win uh

And so before we go out of this complete segment Julian Phillips didn’t play as many minutes in this game which is fine but how’d you feel about the minutes Terry Taylor get Terry Taylor played pretty good tonight for the Bulls I’m I’m not hype on any of it anymore like

Terry Taylor gets in he’s balling he has and he wasn’t even balling this game but just not scoring wise the rebounds he had some really key rebounds that we exactly right but he’s cool I mean until we go up against a team that has size and then we’re like

Why we playing the 65 dude at Center I mean he’s cool like I I like that he’s get that he has a role in there um I would rather see Julian Phillips yeah me too me too definitely keep keep keep going with the young guy that actually

Is 10 minutes is not enough for me I’m sorry like it I think that’s one thing if there’s one flaw that we can give Billy Donovan he does not build on young guys G gaining confidence he’s not really good when it comes to that he’s not not really at all and um it’s

Unfortunate because it’s like he it seems like he every time it seems like he’s going to start doing it there’s a perfect scenario was like good this is an opportunity where you can start building some confidence in young guys Billy looks at and says oh you thought I

Was playing him and then that’s it it’s done you never see him again like that’s that’s my biggest fear with Julian Phil is moving forward is he actually going to continue to get minutes and the answer is let’s be real I I base things off history the answer is no he’s not

Going to get minutes Tory Craig is coming back potentially Saturday that is the end of Julian Phillips minut of Julian the Phillips playing getting minutes potentially let’s say I hope that it’s not the case but just Billy Donovan I don’t trust him to keep playing it but you know uh we we’ll

We’ll see where that goes one person I do trust though is Casey Johnson and Casey Johnson recently had some comments on Zack LaVine and the and the some damning comments if we’re going to be 100% honest which we’re going to talk about before we get into that though I

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For the last two months about the trade market of Zack LaVine the questions around Zack LaVine but it never quite hits the same because it’s not it’s always from sources that don’t follow the Bulls day in and day out Casey Johnson travels with the team he’s with the team primarily through the whole

Season so when he says something and he actually reports on it not just kind because Casey Johnson’s really good at saying hey these are my thoughts and he’s different as saying this is kind of what I’m hearing and what I’m seeing this is actually a report before the

Game today he has some comments on Zack LaVine and I don’t know I’m not gonna say anything for sure but if anything puts a a a damage on Zack Levine’s trade value I would think these comments from Casey Johnson definitely speak to that how do

You feel about that Pat I mean yeah he basically said that Zack LaVine is not viewed as a winning player he’s not viewed as a player who affects winning uh in in uh organization and that’s the reason why there’s no trade market for him and the injuries and and of course

The injuries that play along with that as well um I think that’s probably a blow to Zack lavine’s confidence maybe but listen here’s here’s my message to Zack LaVine if you are here with the Chicago Bulls there’s a stigma on you that will not go away unless you do one thing

When you may be here post trade deadline unless you do one thing when you may be here post next trade deadline unless you do one thing when when you’re not being viewed as a winning player you have to affect winning in the place that you’re

At right now the best way for him to do that to me I think the best game we saw of Zack lavine’s return was that second game where he came back was knocking down shots was going out there at uh uh uh playing off of Kobe white perfectly

We’re getting the Zack and Kobe memes everywhere all over oh this great they’re all back Sweet Life of Zack and Kobe and that is probably who you’re going to have to be in this Chicago Bulls Organization for you to affect winning you’ve gotta be the Klay Thompson to

Kobe white you’ve got to be the Scotty Pippen to Michael or I’m sorry Klay Thompson to Stephen Curry the Scotti pipp and the Michael Jordan you’ve got to be the guy that does the other stuff and I think it comes down to it is that

If Zack LaVine does that and Buys in he may end up finding that he doesn’t actually even need to leave a Zack LaVine that Embraces being the second and tries to impact winning could potentially be perfect for this team with his ability to stretch the floor

Kobe’s uh growth as a point guard and point guardmilitary in which that happens now I’m not saying that that’s likely I think Zack LaVine has his intentions clear but the thing is that this all Start If This truly was rooted in I just want to win and this

Team between that and Billy Donovan I don’t feel like it’s put me in a position to win you never know how how winning really solves everything and and Zack LaVine can still be effective on this team I think we talked so much about Zack LaVine potentially being

Traded because of of of the requests and things like that but like Zack LaVine is still a damn good player he’s flawed extremely flawed player but he still can be a damn good player he was thrust into the role of a number one that he was

Never equipped to be now he can be a co- number one he can be a number two if he really defers he could be a great that but in any any scenario that this ends up working out the best for Zach it includes coming in here and realizing

That now you have a role and if you fit in that role it doesn’t mean that you’re just a role player but you have a role and if you fit in that role that’s where the good things come from and I just don’t know if Zack LaVine has the

Mindset of being able to sacrifice that right now for this team with Billy Donovan as the head coach I don’t know I would love to be wrong on that that’s just kind of where I sit on it right now and if he if well that’s kind of what uh whoa

Crazy that was crazy that’s not bad though 16 minutes in that’s our first record scratch that’s not bad I mean because you had a big one before we started we press record yo that was crazy bro that was crazy we won’t speak on it no and I I’ll

I’ll say this to to your comments right if if he doesn’t feel like that’s the role he needs to take on then Casey Johnson Dr you’re not a winning player yeah and I don’t believe that Zack lavine’s not a winning player I think that we’ve seen a

Lot of since he’s come back right he’s taken less shots he’s been one of I’m just facilitating I’m just here but it feels like that comes from a place of I don’t really want to be here yeah right every time we see Zack it’s kind of just

Like like I think he loves his teammates I genuinely do think he loves his teammates but I think that he’s he’s very much a guy guy who is you know he’s sick of the situation that he’s in guess what we’re all sick of the situation that you’re in but you actually can do

Something to impact it you actually can do something on the court that can change that and that’s to me where I want to see Zack LaVine do something the most right like figure out where you fit in in the dynamic of winning because everything the Bulls need right now you technically

Do we need three-point shooting we need uh some that could push the pace we need somebody that can stretch the floor we need somebody that can finish in the mid-range on a consistent basis not named Demar de r rozan on nights when he’s off we need somebody that can

Consistently knock down shots you do those things but you don’t do those things to me as the number one guy on this team in situations that lead to winning situations I mean facts are facts when it comes down to that and you just you just spoke a lot of them um so yeah

Let’s hope that that a Zack LaVine that comes back focused and I see EOB being said that he needs to focus on giving effort defensively I could say this what since he returned he did that but much the patch Point Pat made a great point when when Zach came

Back and he was defending he was facilitating he was rebounding he wasn’t taking a lot of shots it seemed like it was this thing like I need to do this to prove it to people to shut them up so I can get up out of here now how about you

Do it now to prove it that you can contribute to winning and here’s the thing when people show you who they are believe him I don’t expect Zack L to be a one a one Defender the rest of the way the rest of his career I that would be

Stupid to expect out of him you’ve put players on the floor that allow him not to be a one or where he doesn’t have to be a one0 Defender every day that’s on the organization that’s on Billy that’s one a but the things that you can do

That can affect the game you got to do those nobody else can do it and you want to know why nobody wants you on their team right now because you make 250 million and you don’t do those things there is a perception that only Zack LaVine can

Change and I hope he listen I I I think people think I hate Zach I be seeing how are you blaming Zach for all of this because he’s the one that can get the ball in his hands and change the game he’s a player that at the drop of a dime can drop

50 he can change the SI situation that the Bulls are in I can sit here and talk about it but me and Hayes can’t change nothing he’s don’t seem like he’s changing nothing as we’ll talk about in the next topic like like yep we’re good baby here we go hey

That that uh thumbnail that I made what was that last week becomes trer and trer every single time bro no I gotta find a picture I got a picture in my it might be on here do we have oh no because we switch things I’ll find a picture for

The next topic I’ll try to find it and put it up here but there’s a picture that epitomizes what the Chicago Bulls are doing right now and it so perfectly encapsulates where we’re at right now with this season but we got to talk about again that trade deadline

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Pat we’re not doing nothing we not going to do it we’re not going to do nothing’s happening at the trade deadline Darnell Mayberry from the athletic reported that many within the Bulls do not expect the Bulls to do anything at the trade deadline continuity is going to win yet again

Pat are we surprised yes why I don’t know like what’s what’s different from this season then last season than the season before where this is Denver guys this is just the bad part of Denver welcome to Chicago the the Chicago nuggets not the Chicago nuggets welcome to the Chicago nuggets bro like this

This is not surprising to me in the slightest because this is what the organization has told you they’re going to do they’re slow playing everything they’re gonna wait on everything they’re not going to be quick to make a decision on anything this is your team does it suck

Maybe a little bit I guess when we finally make the right decision it’ll be great because we’ll be in that moment for so long but I’m not surprised by this I’m not surprised that the reports are the Bulls won’t do much because guess what the second we heard Jerry reinsdorf had his

Hands back in and we knew what this team was about to be well Jerry ryers had his hands back in the fact that I actually like what we heard from that as far as that he just didn’t want the Bulls to take a bad deal on the Zach contract but

The thing in this report that came out today is that not only are teams calling about Alice Caruso Andre ger they even said that the Bulls that have suitors for Nicola vich which I that that caught me completely off guard there’s going to be another opportunity for the Chicago Bulls to

Reset and they’re not going to do it because what is that what happens when you reset you go to the bottom you’re going to lose a lot of games they don’t feel like their young players are at a point yet where they can make that decision which to me I think is really

Holding this team back because there are certain players that I would be okay with you moving off of because I feel like you have young players in in that position that maybe just maybe and even if they’re not even if they’re not you’re never going to see with veterans

In place I would be fine with you moving off Andre drumond you know why because ad Dam Sono is down in the G League just dominating every day and every time we see every time we saw him we only saw it a couple of times on an NBA court it

Didn’t look like he was lost develop that he’s young he’s going to be here for a while develop that I guess Andre German is also young but like he’s he’s what 30 now he’s finally made 30 finally finally in the league 30 years he’s finally turned 30 but develop that

You want to move off of Demar d r rozan possibly okay Demar d r rozan is an older player play Julian Phillips more develop that you got D Terry develop that do you think and I think I asked this question a little bit before but it’s been a while since we talked about

It is AK and Evers Le’s their reluctance and maybe even a fear to be bad even if it’s for one or two years do you think that’s ultimately going to be the undoing of this team because they just refuse to be bad take a development year while also getting a

Better draft pick do you think that that’s going to come come back eventually and be be the downfall of this front office the last front office the downfall was not understanding how to develop around a player and not how to draft with purpose this front office

Is going to be that they just are terrified to be bad I don’t think it’s the downfall because I don’t think either situation leads you to Prosperity when you talk about bottoming out or when you talk about just being in the mdle I’m not talking about tanking I’m not necessarily

Talking about bottoming out so but go go ahead continue all well I mean I guess are you saying basically like just have a season where you’re like like where it’s just young guys playing yeah for the most I mean you still have some key veterans like the Alice Caruso whatever

You have some key veterans but the the the the fact of it seems like AK average Le are terrified to move off this core and put a player like put it in a position where hey now Pat you got to you got to take 16 shots a game you’re

Gonna take 16 shots a game Julian like you said it’s your time you’re up now my guy Ern lot baam Henry drugo go ahead and come on up we got some minutes for you guys it feels like this this team where some teams have will will take

Those bumps that season maybe win a 35 36 games um and but those players are developing it seems like this front off now that they because they have veterans here they’re never going to fully turn your young guys loose unless you’re like Kobe you just hit a Amazing Leap in in

The season I I don’t I don’t disagree with that I don’t think you want to go full young guys because I think that’s the problem with the NBA right now and I think the prime example of that is what we’re seeing happen in Houston yes having a a different coach in there

Makes a difference right but having veteran players on that team has changed the trajectory of that team now are they Elite by no means right they’re a better basketball team but you’re developing young pieces I do think you need to have those veterans there I think it’s tough

To keep guys around if they don’t feel like they’re competing for anything right you can’t get Tory Craig to come over here you can’t get uh uh uh you you get five Javon Carters basically when you want you know those veteran when you want to develop just young guys and

You’re just like we’re going young but we want to get people in here right like having fad Young was a was a shock that the Bulls had him as long as they did because that young was very integral to the development of Zack LaVine now did

It do enough maybe not people can argue that but he turned into a 28 point per game player while fad young was here those are the things that like having that vet that people can go to that’s how you make a better team so I wouldn’t

Want to see us go full young everybody’s a kid go out there and figure it out let’s do it you don’t want to Pistons it I don’t want to pency at all right because look Monty Williams was a great coach two years ago remember that like

When he was with the when he was with the sons and he was in championships he was a Le oh my God what a genius this guy is what happened you got everybody on that team team that he didn’t want to go to how

You got how you G have to offer a coach three different times to coach your team and then surprise with like it’s crazy man crazy yeah I I just I I personally I feel like you have to have a proper balance and I think that that’s what the

Bulls are trying to manage here but I think you’ve got you’ve gone too far the other direction where you’ve got too many young guys waiting for older guys to get out of the way yeah and I think that’s one of the issues that the Bulls had because we the second everybody got

Out of Kobe’s way listen Kobe had to have a offseason work would dribble too much and different things like that but the second everybody got out his way he can magically play basketball at a elite level at a level that I didn’t believe he could play coming into the

Season I thought hey I was with you I thought Javon Carter might be starting here that’s funny you I mean like so I think that you do have to have that balance I’m okay with them not being all in on bottoming out and just playing a bunch of young dudes what I’m

Not okay on is you not allowing those young dudes to take that next step yeah that’s where I you got you gota you gotta work there yeah and I don’t know if Billy’s the guy to strike that balance but hey we we’ll see I mean I

Again like I I said this on the breeze today when I was talking about the Bulls I think Billy Donovan is a good head coach a good head coach with great players becomes great a good head coach with bad players becomes bad right now you’re a good head coach with good players

You’re just good all it is it’s not it’s not horrible it’s not awful it’s not great it’s not amazing you’re just you exist on the team you Billy Donovan exists on the floor the same way most of the players do that’s where this Bulls team is right

Now and it sucks but I mean it’s just it’s it’s one of those situations where this is the team that you’ve put together and you’re going to hold on to it past the trade deadline this isn’t the picture that I found but this may be

A little bit funnier I got to find the one there’s one with bny a bull sitting in the chair but this is the Bulls right now this yeah I mean just this is fine things are burning down in the background people are screaming yeah shout out clutch points for this yeah

Yeah I mean this is fine could have done a better job at than that I feel like that was a it was a cheap editor on that one clutch was that was very yeah they had Junior editor on that one yeah they normally do so much better they do great

Jersey work we’ve stolen many can we say that can we can we say that on the well we haven’t stole it here so yeah I mean I guess oh okay yeah it’s fine yeah we have a stol here just throwing a tweet a tweet here and there yeah there you go

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When today’s episode of Locked on Bulls. HAize & Pat The Designer react to the ship. to the Chicago Bulls bounce back win over the Charlotte Hornets They talk about Coby White’s season high performance and how that led to a Bulls victory They also talk about the Zach Lavine trade market and the report from multiple members of the media that Zach Lavine is not viewed as a winning player.

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