Coby White’s 35-Point, 9-Assist masterclass leads Chicago Bulls over Hornets | CHGO Bulls Podcast
Yeah what’s going on bulls Nation welcome in to Cho Bulls post game coming to you live from our studios here in West Loop downtown Chicago I’m peek you can follow me on Twitter at Bulls forek my crew big day bow bwl Sports will to go Godly
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Super chats if you feel so inclined Bulls get the win over the Hornets 117 110 at least we didn’t need overtime this time yeah at least we managed to sweep the lowly Hornets this season correct I’m I’m looking for silver silver linings right now not going to lie obvious obviously Kobe white yes
Monster game great I gross that was a gross game I gross okay I’d rather win I’ll take that over playing you know because this is a team as ass as they are we watched them still beat the Timberwolves so this a team you could definitely lose to so we got out
There and they got the victory uh Kobe white baled the hell out like that’s simply what it was it was a reversal what we’re used to seeing from the Bulls them coming out in the first half and actually going bonkers and then by the second half after after eating that
Chicken parm at halftime they come out in the second half and go to sleep this time they said nope we’re vegan today I did that for Matt they’re they’re not going to eat that stuff at halftime and they came out and they had a much better second half and Kobe well was the
Leading the way yeah season ey 35 points for him he was outstanding and you mentioned it like these teams even though the Bulls are missing a lot of guys like they still have way more Talent than what the Hornets tried out there tonight I no Lamela Bal no Mark
Williams it was basically miles Bridges and PJ Washington shooting a ton of Threes but that’s exactly what happens teams shoot a ton of threes when they are at a talent deficit and they make a lot they have a chance to win so 16 of 46 for the Hornets they took 46 threes
Six of nine but they outscored the Bulls from Deep by 15 points and that was enough to keep the game as close as it was I mean look Matt’s right that game should not have been close the Bulls went up early they relinquished the lead late in the second quarter the uh down
By 10 they were down by 10 uh the Bulls kind of clawed back there Kobe had that three shot foul right at the buzzer that kind of got the game back in order but I mean that was a close game for all intents and purposes and it was in large
Part due to the fact that the Hornets were just drilling so many threes that they were taking until the fourth quarter when the wheels just kind of fell off but that’s what happens when these teams shoot a lot of Threes they have a chance to you know give
Themselves a chance to win on any given night but yeah thanks to Kobe who played just out of his mind the 35 was a season High one point shy of his career high which is 36 uh adding in nine dimes seven boards you know flirting with that
Triple double territory uh shout out to Flipside in the comments who says speaking of reversal that contorted reverse layup with the English man the the Lefty finish he also had that was high off the glass taking contact and the foul vicious Kobe white is uh consistently one of a very short list of
Things that’s making me not want to hate my life a lot right now because that was an ugly game and I I’m I’m fed up as a bolt fan right now that’s no secret but Kobe white is clinging on to me and not letting me go to the dark place because
We saw him make so many special High difficulty plays tonight yeah as a scorer and as a distributor 43 minutes uh out there playing I believe he was a plus 12 am I right about that oh my God he’s playing so many minutes yeah he’s
Playing a ton a ton a ton of minutes out there and again this was a eight-man rotation uh for the Bulls tonight as you mentioned with all the injuries uh that they’re dealing with so somebody had to step up coming in on the back to back
And in that game yesterday Kobe you know really wasn’t cooking in that game um he was off definitely off and coming home you know to where he is basically the greatest scorer in North Carolina basketball history I’m sure he wanted to play well you know in front of the home
Crowd and he definitely did it in the second half when they truly truly needed it you mentioned will that that those uh three free throws at the end of the half I thought that was the Turning Point uh because the Bulls were again trying to get back into the game after being down
By 10 that was a huge play honestly because for them to go in by five the way they were playing I thought that that I don’t know how they were going to come out looking in that second half but Kobe actually getting that and hitting
All of them was was just very very key I thought so I think the other thing is like the major storyline for me was 37 minutes for Demar D rozan only four of 10 from the field for 15 15 points second out of a back to back after
Playing uh heavy minutes in both these games again dear not to say he’s like falling off the face of the Earth because he’s just turning 84 years old but like he is getting a little bit older he’s not necessarily able to put up that kind of workload in back-to-back
Games yeah when you’re traveling home travel it’s it’s a tough ask and so you need somebody else to really be that guy and yeah I feel like for the most part this season you know Bulls fans have shifted from year one of the dear experience
Dear is our savior all hail dear King in the fourth dear and then last season his efficiency dropped a little bit but he was still damn good he still was an All-Star uh and the Bulls reli on him a lot especially in clutch games uh which
The Bulls did not win as many of last season and then this season I feel like there’s been a pretty strong shift as far as Bulls fans being willing to rely on Demar that much we saw it last night and we were talking about in postgame
Last night the the iso Demar plan not working with the the Trap defenses that Toronto was throwing at them at like even in spite of that I think dear had 10 of the Bulls 15 total fourth quarter points last night but on a night like tonight it’s like take your pick do you
Want to trash dear or complain about dear having a quiet night tonight and only taking 10 shots tonight or do you want to complain about dear taking too many shots yeah seriously and yeah like you said this is the s for it in in the the other side you know having Kobi
Actually do these things cuz Bulls fans are like we’re tiing tired of it you know we’re tired of him just being the only option out here and when you’re the only option it makes it easier obviously for teams to attack you so you saw the double teams that we saw yesterday today
You saw the double team coming at Kobe and then you saw the ball actually start moving because they couldn’t double team him and Demar it actually works like wow you know like oh this is good stuff not just one guy has it because he’s cooking actually switching it out like that so
Yeah man it just it worked out for them tonight I would say I think the other thing on top of that you know they were doubling dear late in games they were throwing traps at him but he was getting off the ball before the Trap fully
Engaged and so when you get the ball you swing it to Kobe as his Defender is now moving away from him now you’ve got Kobe playing four on uh three and I thought that’s where the Bulls ball movement was really good they had a couple of plays
Where Kobe would get it and drive or get it to vo in the middle of the floor Swing Swing there was one that was like went all the way back around to Kobe kicked it back to at the corner to I who kicked it back to Kobe and then he drove
Like I just thought the ball movement was a lot better than it was last night and I will say this and I’ve said it before a lot of times in these situations like the game is going to slow down the ball movement is not going to necessarily be there Kobe has said
That to me um that’s just not something that that can always happen in these kind of crunch time scenarios but you have to credit the Bulls for the way they move the ball I think in that fourth quarter they they were up by 10 you know for the last couple minutes of
The game like it not it never really felt that close but in those situations it really does get easy to just give the ball to dear and let him do everything for you like Matt was saying and I don’t think they kind of fell back on that I
Think they tried to try some new things tonight and it resulted in Kobe scoring the ball moving playing through v a little bit more and it just felt like a lot cleaner basketball yes very clean and I like the fact that this time when the double team came as opposed to
Yesterday it was somebody in the back court with dear usually it was just Demar by himself top of the key and then the double team would show up then he’s got to toss it over some somebody and that’s when the turnovers were occurring this time like you said he was getting
It out of his hands in the back court to Kobe white and then when it would collapse on him you saw the ball movement looking just better as you said and there’s difference between getting trapped by like leaky black and Sh out leaky black son Scotty Barnes and shut
Up Fus young but uh you know I I thought they did execute that much better tonight uh ant in the comments said I find it funny now the talk is dear is horrible he’s been carrying us for a couple years how about we start talking about the others stepping up and I you
Know that’s obviously the you know I I can gripe and sit here and say wow that was an ugly game the Bulls are very short-handed eight players bro that’s it as much as we might want to see more from Patrick when he has played the season as much as we are excited
About getting to see more minutes from Julian Phillips or D and Terry before he got hurt it’s like they they had Julian Phillips and Terry Taylor out there getting first quarter minutes tonight yeah they they brought up uh batim and soogo from Windy City tonight just in
Case this team is strapped right now so when you are in a position like that and you’re on the road playing the second night of a back to back it’s like you have to rely on your guys yeah I don’t love that that meant 43 minutes for Kobe
White tonight yeah but it is wonderful that tonight Kobe was like y’all dear’s old and tired get on my back yeah that’s what Bulls fans have been clamoring for all season long as soon as we saw Kobe make that Ascension when he caught fire in December Bulls fans have been saying
Since then let Kobe do more yeah and tonight when you just need to grind out a not pretty win on the road against a team that you should beat Kobe white is turning into a kind of player who you could just say yo man Kobe we
Don’t have it tonight help and he’s like cool I got this and I love that he is contributing in every single quarter doing something so it’s not just the scoring you know obviously it was huge because it had to carry the team as you just mentioned but it was also the
Rebounding it was also the assist I mean some awesome passes he was making out there and then getting the ball and just the fact that he’s just willing to get in there and fight you know I mean amongst the trees to get these rebounds and start the break for the team just
Says a lot about him man just how he’s played this year like I men you over that like I I right now for me he’s most improved player like I have to see the list of other guys but the people I’ve heard I I don’t see how it’s not him
Right now I just really don’t I don’t see it he’s done every single thing to improve his game and not just improve it by Leaps and Bounds Improvement not just in your points but in your actual entire game you know from a guy that people would saying shouldn’t start to a dude
That is 357 and n and leading your team to Victor and it’s not his first time doing it like he’s just been absolutely incredible man and we got a shirt for him like we gave him a shirt that’s the ultimate stamp right there like you a chgo shirt Sub Zero
Hero grab that new Subzero T you saw with the king in the fourth you know he was cooking and we got him but now it’s Kobi he’s now immortalized on the on a dope ass shirt so yeah he’s just been amazing I I hope it continues um I hope
It leads to him getting into the all-star weekend not as an Allstar but just a participant in something uh that they’re doing uh skills competition whatever three-point compe whatever I just want to see him out there man but Kobe has been just simply outstanding Dave really quick one thing and then
I’ll let you guys take it but I just was Curious by your thoughts on um oh and the sound’s gone we forgot to do the Bulls wi sound but it’s not loading uh I will load it up you know what they didn’t deserve it tonight they didn’t
Deserve it tonight is what he said because they won they didn’t win how I wanted them to win so they don’t deserve it today yeah plls win uh I’m just looking here to your like that guy people people talking about Kobe in that most improved award conversation Dave as as of right now
Maxi is leading those odds M uh atus 200 I just don’t see that’s like shoe in favorite kind of odds I guess it’s because Maxi was cold last year like that’s how I look at it and it make it reminds me of when John Mor won it
That’s what it reminds me the other thing is like Maxi has stepped into from like the third player role into the second he’s robbing to em beeds Batman out inad on the third best team he’s not Alfred he’s that part I feel uh that part the other part that’s what Kobe did
He stepped into to it yeah that wasn’t his role sh right into that sh shenon is at plus 280 for most improved right now Scotty Barnes and Kobe are tied for third best odds at plus 1,400 with Scotty Barnes I mean he’s right there I don’t
Think you can make an argument that he’s not right there I I feel like Maxi will probably be like the the favorite from like the national narrative just because of the team success yes uh Joey knows I love alpi shenon mhm Scotty Barnes has been great but their team is kind of a
Disaster uh even though they just beat the Bulls I don’t know if I can actually say that on our show right now but um yeah I mean he’s he’s right there I don’t think I don’t think putting money on that bet is like out of line it’s not
Bad money uh Gabriel in the comments saying Maxi probably gets it because the Sixers have more media attention that is certainly accurate yeah and wins um Kobe white uh Bullseye Insight Kobe white CW Caleb Williams CW coincidence I mean it’s doesn’t mean anything right now Caleb Williams is is not yet a Chicago
Coincidence Rob saying Kobe’s got to be U most improved player so far what are the betting ons there there they were Maxi still uh with the commanding lead on those odds we’ll see we still have almost a full half a season to go we got
Time on where they go from here but I mean night’s like tonight and again the the media attention thing I think is is key yeah the Bulls have had what three nationally televised games this season something like that um but but those of us who are sitting and you know looking
For things to enjoy as Bulls fans this season as they March towards another playing tournament appearance like Kobe white is fun to watch every night yeah and it’s not just looking for something it’s oh wow no he’s really good yeah like he’s really good yeah it’s not just
A Feelgood you know like oh he’s playing well this year kind of thing it’s like no oh [ __ ] he can play that’s what that is man shout out Kobe white I mean and I feel like this won’t be the last of these kind of games we see from
Down the stretch of the Season where he’s you know he’s putting up 30 and also flirting with double digit assists because they’re putting more on his plate and maybe that changes if and when the bulls actually get healthy but honestly I I don’t care if they get healthy because I I would
Prefer to just watch Kobe ball out for 30 something more games that’s where I am right now as a bulls fan let Kobe go play what what were you Julian Phillips to yes obviously my sweet special boy yes uh what how did you phrase it when we were watching earlier tonight Dave
What did I say uh make the right play or oh make the white play yeah don’t make the right play make the white play that means do it for yourself Kobe white sometimes you I see him out there making the right plays you know sometimes you
Make the right play it’s why we get on LeBron you know what I’m saying through his career because he makes the right play but sometimes you just want him no forget the right play just do LeBron stuff and be great you know forget don’t pass it to Danny Green you know what I’m
Saying take the ball and go do it so I get he’s making the right plays but sometimes I just want him to make the white play the Kobe white played pull pull it from 27 feet pull that joint you know what I mean and and shoot that ball
Put it on the floor get to the bucket on three people and get you the an one you know that’s what puts you on the national attention and that’s what helps the team uh get that energy as well you saw when he got that and one everybody
Came flying off the bench to come help him up including batim shout out batim uh to come help him get up man like those are the things that just get your team excited and be like okay we going to play yeah we going to ride with you
Kobe white we believe in you so yeah man keep making those kind of plays Kobe I I like it I like ala team is sitting on the bus back from hofman Estates every night watching our post game show I hope so that’d be pretty cool shout out to
Him man we want to see you play we want to see always welcome on the show you are uh French plls TV saying clearly Kobe’s been a joy to watch all season long he certainly has uh Daryl Ashwood saying all ringer guys are on board uh Simmons talks about Kobe all the time
Now that’s news to me because I don’t listen to Simmons regularly cuz you know I I don’t hate myself that much yeah um let’s let’s hope that’s not a jinx CU usually when Bill Simmons has an NBA take it doesn’t age well I do enjoy the occasional pop in to the Bill Simmons
Podcast and just hearing him like rattle off some insane takes and then like whoever’s guesting just like kind of pulling them back to reality a little bit 198 88 Michael Jordan or Jason Tatum you know I think I’m taking Tatum I think I just I think I’m taking Tatum
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Was so kind oh um also before we moved on I did want to make note of the uh the newest CH Joe die hards speaking of the the dopest Chicago sports fans uh who signed up yesterday or today Jack Rob Albert Mark Brock Bradley Michael Jeremiah and Ryan welcome to the Cho Die
Hard fam the newest list of coolest cool people in the world of Chicago Sports fandom yeah we mentioned it in pregame in case you missed it we had over 100 new di hard signups just in this month of January bro that’s crazy that’s so
Love bro that is so love Kobe yes it was man that’s some cool stuff that one will always make my heart warm Kobe White’s draft night Podium uh press conference it was cool stuff man and then the interview after his first ever with anybody dumb dumb it was us and it wasn’t about
That is ax it wasn’t about him getting drafted seventh it was about his boy his buddy cam Johnson going way higher than everyone had projected him to go and that’s who Kobe is man and he continue to show that’s the kind of person is we
Had we had that game on the side TV tonight you saw cam Johnson y like o man would love him in a Bulls jersey C Johnson would absolutely love him every time you say the names like that I think a Yes Man when when uh Zoe de Chanel’s
Character is shout out everybody in the audience and call him by name that’s literally goes in my head Jer Jack V who are you every time not your late night booty call oh man that turn the jail don’t call me past 11 p.m. won’t happen
Again no call me at 10:59 such a like just good enough that it’s watchable underappreciated Carri movie facts we get a Ribble h a out of reble re uh I I saw somebody mentioning earlier in the comments the the Javon Carter night we had tonight speaking of the Bulls bench being short-handed even
As short-handed as the Bulls bench is right now without Zach without Tori without Pat without dalen MH Javon Carter played 7even minutes M and impressively in those 7 Minutes managed to be a minus 12 on the floor man he had a uh sequence at the end of maybe the
First or second quarter no it’s the end of the first quarter yeah uh where he take the wheel he had a pretty bad turnover and then let ish Smith walk the dog and pull up for three to beat the buzzer and I don’t did he play after
That he must have uh maybe another short yeah it just seems like he does not have the trust of Billy Donan right now and it’s kind of hard to blame him the way that he’s playing but I will say this like we talked about the depth situation
Right now Terry Taylor played 20 minutes Julian Philip played 11 Drummond 15 Carter 7even I mean that was that’s it that’s the bench yeah and yeah and it’s the the depth issue and also compiling with that the size issue that the Bulls are having exactly I mean you do have to
Carter does not help you he hurts you in that regard when you have to compensate for No Patrick no Tori no Zack no Dal what you have to do is put like more guards into the lineup and push dear and Caruso up to the four right and so now you’re going to put
Kobe and Javon you know and IO out there together it just it gets a little bit small so I I don’t Tory Craig coming back coming back got be Saturday man cuz you I think you can get away with what you’re saying against teams like Charlotte like they
Tried to get away with it yesterday against the Raptors and you know you’re just too small for that so and like you mentioned with Javon especially when you’re not scoring you know you’re in there to score you know and play some defense and he hasn’t been doing any of
That on a consistent basis this season man started off a little hot and then I means just been completely cool so yeah that’s going to hurt you against these teams and you’ll see it definitely be hurt if Tory Craig is not out there Saturday oh man that’s going to be tough
Bro uh darl in the comments said javon’s confidence is shot he pump fakes before every single shot now I think we touched on that in a recent episode where it looked like earlier this season just like he’s going up he’s Blakey 2.0 he’s going up and now you see him second
Guessing himself a lot um also Alexander in the comments said if you guys started emanating more positive vibes in Javon Carter’s Direction maybe he would play better bro that’s all I do saying just you know this man has a Chicago Bulls embroidered or whatever embossed business card the official positive
Energy what whatever positive affirmations positive affirmation liaison there you go pal pal right there which started with Patrick William Chago Bulls pal yes started with Patrick Williams but I feel like you could probably also just be on retainer for any number of Bulls players absolutely right I will he tons and tons of
Positive affirmations your way and really anyone that I won’t lie but please understand that I do tell the truth all right this ain’t positivity based on bull like this is just I’m being honest with you in these things but yes he will get my love and positive
Affirmation I said over there while we were talking that I felt sorry for him because I’m like dude he really wants to be here like he really wanted to be a Chicago Bull we talked about it with him just how much it meant for him to put on
That Jersey and it has to suck that you’re playing like this for the team that you truly wanted to play with he talked about when the bull’s name came up to his agent he was like yes immed Ely that’s it I’m going to go play for
The Bulls so it feels I just feel bad for him I do and I want him to play better obviously him playing better means the Bulls win more games cuz you got another scorer out there on your team but he just hasn’t been and sadly has been consistent that he hasn’t been
So that’s why he’s getting seven minutes uh in games like this against Charlotte but man it’s got to turn over for him sometime I just really hope it does cuz I just know that he wants to be a Chicago bu I just wanted to kick in for him bro I
Do it sucks sucks for him K in in the comments said Javon Carter can grab $6 Million worth of pine sorry um hey man he’s been playing that way I’m I’m not mad at anybody who’s out on him you know what I’m saying Paul Williams saying what in the comments saying what Javon
Has said himself this season which is he needs time I mean I H it’s just I I don’t know if it’s too far gone at this point but all signs point to Billy relegating him behind everyone in the rotation and then including when guys get bumped into the
Rotation who weren’t in it because Billy’s dealing with multiple injuries to multiple players do you think that Billy is okay so the worst coach in the league the worst coach basketball’s ever seen put the pole up to he’s terrible put the pole up Kobe white played 43 minutes tonight he is
Averaging uh 36 minutes per game which is not too much but I I would venture to Guess that over the last month or two it’s been a lot higher than that okay um obviously they needed every minute and every point from Kobe tonight but like are we at all worried about the workload
That he’s under right now and like I mean if we’re talking about Javon obviously he’s got to earn the trust to be out there but like at the same time Billy can’t like play Kobe 43 44 48 minutes a night like how do you do you
Think he needs to do a better job balance balancing that I’m not worried about the workload yet uh with Kobe white uh I’m watching how he’s using his minutes while he’s out there playing those long minutes there’s sometimes that I forget that he’s on the floor and
I mean that positively because I’m not seeing him just overexert himself to do certain things he I feel like he plays within himself now on the offense and the defensive end I think he’s learning how from guys like dear and guys like Caruso when to take a break on the floor
You know when to get you a little rest when to get you a little breather um I I I haven’t concerned myself with that yet it’s going to be one yeah for sure cuz that’s just a ton ton ton of minutes 43 minutes tonight 35 last night against the Raptors 4140 against Portland
4254 against the Lakers and 4049 against the Suns I mean that’s just the last five games and and I’ll tell you the other part oh my God and the other part of that is watching him be he knows when to be the point guard he knows when to
Distribute and allow other guys to get off and do their thing that’s also rest you know what I mean for him on the other end when he’s setting up the offense but just swinging the ball you saw when he did Devo like he had an open
Three and then still swung at Devo to allow him to shoot that shot so that just plays to his IQ you know what I mean because we watch great players do it all the time Luca immediately comes to mind you know he plays a ton of
Minutes but he he rests on that floor you see it and because he gets everybody the ball so he plays one pace yes and Kobe has really slowed himself down you know he’s not going one on fours anymore just attacking IO does that more so than uh Kobe does that now
But yeah I like that Kobe is finding just little spots and reserves on the floor to get him some rest because I’ve yet to see him just be Gass you know out of out of breath or something like that maybe his game will show it because his
Shots might be short or something I would say last night he just looked a little bit sluggish yeah yeah like showing every once in a while he has a game where it’s like like ah just Kobe look doesn’t quite have it tonight yeah but it hasn’t been right say fallen over
Um okay here’s a a sequence of comments that I really love uh and I agree with uh to a point garon uh saying in the comments I’m not really worried about Kobe’s minutes he’s 22 or 23 the guy I’m worried about is DeMar got to cut back his workload yikes fish saying Kobe’s
Young he’ll be fine Rob saying no Kobe should have the highest workload on this team he’s taking his game to the next level and look I I know that I winced as I realized that Kobe played 43 minutes earlier tonight and uh I know you and I
Have had uh issues with Billy leaving Kobe in late in games when you know the game is in hand there is part of me Devil’s Advocate and I and I do truly believe it and in agreement with those comments like am I worried about preserving Kobe for the playoffs no
Because this team ain’t going let Kobe ball out and continue getting to be greater and higher levels of awesome he’s young knock on wood he’s healthy let him play as much as Kobe wants to play Let him play and we heard I think it was maybe a sideline report from
Casey Johnson in one of their games recently when he was talking to Kobe about all these minutes he’s playing and Kobe said are you kidding me I was scraping and fighting for minutes for the first four years of my career that’s true I’m never going to complain about
Too many minutes yeah so yeah I if that’s how Kobe feels let me I’ll play as many minutes as you want me to play coach and Bulls fans are all loving watching Kobe white this season on a short list of things we’re happy and excited about let him play let him get
Better yo Stars play that’s what it is and Kobe W is a star right now he’s turned himself into one he’s got to be out there on the floor and he’s running the offense for you too man like he’s he’s so intrical to what the Bulls are doing offensively and as someone
Mentioned in the comments and some I’ve talked about a lot defensively like he is really just so much better is keeping his man in front of him and using his body the right way uh you haven’t seen him take as many charges as of late uh
He was up there his number was up there for a little bit to start the season but you haven’t seen it as of late you know him just doing that I think he’s more selective at that as well so yeah like it’s just watching him learn and use his
Mind and use his brain too and just be smart out there when he’s on the floor playing this game man there are plenty of spots for you to catch a breather plenty of spots and Kobe is showing you that he can do it that way yeah I think
Dear whoever made that comment I think is spot on there dear is playing 37 minutes a game up from 36 last year and he’s played all but two games this year he has had a much lower usage this year so maybe the workload isn’t quite there
But like with all these guys out Billy has to put his best players on if they’re going to compete every night and they’re trying to compete every night they’re trying to get back from the hole that they dug themselves out of so uh yeah I mean dear definitely the the
Minutes and the workload is more of a concern to me but at a certain point like once these guys get healthy I do not expect either of those guys to be in the 40s every night I mean dear 37 tonight but 42 last game 40 41 40 37
Yeah his last five games prior to that that’s a lot of minutes for a guy who means so much of the Bulls but is also you know his age 35 season I thought he was 85 you told me 85 really I said 84 okay 84 excuse me uh Tyrone Stevens as
An interesting comment in the comments do you uh question in the comments do you guys think that Kobe Pat IO and Julian be the young core that we could add to um do you think looking forward could be the young okay go ahead um and wanting to see those young guys get more
Opportunities and not just Kobe but seeing more minutes from those guys yeah I I was actually having a conversation similar to this with our guy Cody from Cho Cubs earlier today and he and you know he and I were talking about it and and how I feel is this group of younger
Guys mhm all have potential to be incredible role players on a good team MH and to Kobe’s extent even a great secondary star on a legitimately good team MH they still need the Superstar MH none of the guys here are the Superstar and I’m not trying to sell Kobe short or
I don’t believe in Kobe but I will say I do not believe in Superstar best player on a team in the top three seeds level for Kobe white I I don’t quite see that for as much as I love what I’m seeing from Kobe I like all of
Those young guys that you rattled off as guys to keep around who can turn into solid role players I think part of it is but they don’t build a team a superstar builds a team he says young core we could add to which I think is is the correct terminology
Superstar not young build around necessarily but that’s exactly I was about say you got some pieces there that are good pieces I’ll say this kind of in defense of the way that the team is currently being built which is that like okay maybe these guys are fixtures the
Future but if you don’t view them as Superstar A1 caliber options that are going to lead you to a championship um then you kind of need to have a guy who can be the number one option on that team to help support them and and
Develop them as they get older here so I do think in that sense like having dear and V around has really helped Kobe it’s helped Julian none of these guys are overburdened or overtasked you’re able to slowly give Kobe more and more responsibility more and more usage as
These games go on and I think that’s been really beneficial to their growth so I think that’s a real reason why AK and the front office want to have dear and Vu around to help support those guys but I think the question there is okay well if dear’s 34 years years old and
He’s a free agent and you’ve got to figure out what you want to do with him longer term and V has signed for this year and two more he’s 32 like if you don’t at some point figure out the way to get that next star that can be the
Number one guy right to put those guys kind of in their place and I don’t say that disrespectfully at all like right I you it just becomes harder and harder to find that guy the longer you put it off and I feel like most everyone would be in agreement Bulls fans other or
Otherwise to say none of those guys that are here right now are that the guy none of them and so what you it’s notar we already saw the Apex of Demar two seasons ago and we’ll never see that again MH it’s it’s they they have to find that player somewhere else um
People in the comments saying you know you’re not going to find in free agency because those those Superstar level of players never pick Chicago you’re also probably not going to find it in the draft when you have dear and V round and that keeps you drafting around 10 or 12
Or whatever so how do you find it with a trade oh wait we don’t do that yeah so you just you have to figure out the other ways to do that and I mean that yeah just requires you to start building in some direction somehow and they just
Haven’t done that yet yeah I’ll say this uh um yeah add to yeah that’s kind of where I was going with that thanks for saying that uh Joey but this I’ll say this about Kobe Kobe has earned for me earned the right to be given a benefit
Of a doubt and not just be you can’t be this person 100% Kobe has earned that if Kobe has earned the right to be like maybe you can be the man on this team I’ve heard Kobe over his since he’s gotten here be told everything that he can’t be everything you’re a bench
Player you’re just a shooter you can’t be a point guard you can’t be a starter he’s been told all this you can’t be a dude who averages 20 like all this and again reminds me of your boy Jimmy Butler it’s the same thing for me like setting all these hurdles up and I’m
Just watching him leap over that [ __ ] constantly at a younger age obviously Jimmy you know took more time because Derek was there but Kobe has earned the right to have this benefit of the doubt to allow himself maybe you can be the man maybe you can be the dude that
Carries this team because everything that you’ve been told that you can’t do I’m watching him do it and not just do it but surpass it and destroy it so maybe he can be the leader because obviously the guys want to follow behind him they love Kobe white so obviously
They want to get behind him and you know see if he can be that guy but I’m not going to put it past him that he can be the dude who is the leader of this team that could lead this team somewhere to some success um I’m just not going to
Doubt it I’m just not going to put that out there for him man he’s proven it all wrong like over the years man and he’s earned that benefit of the doubt so I I can’t I can’t just say that about Kobe I do agree with the other guys as far as
Role players they they feel like role players you know what I mean to me hopefully maybe they can grow like Julian Phillips and those guys maybe they can grow jul phips is going to be the best player in the NBA yes I’m not going to argue this
But maybe they could get into that it feels like IO already knows his role and what he wants to be and again IO had awes another awesome game tonight too um but I feel like Kobe could be that dude who stands out like we’re talking about putting him in just the all-star weekend
Just to be there for the weekend maybe the conversation shifts to man maybe this dude can be the All-Star for your team maybe this dude can lead your team to some victories out here we’re talking about giving him the ball and giving him the keys now like go ahead be the man it
Also definitely like you said Hing on dear and Vu and obviously they build it around him they want them to learn from those guys I guess the question is when do you hand the keys to the young fellas when do you say dear thank you V thank
You you know they’re they’re ready when do you toss them the keys like that’s the question last season’s trade deadline I I do think you’re right and I don’t want to I don’t want to like disregard the potential for Kobe to be like the number one player on a
Championship team I’m not going to like say that’s impossible but even if he does become that you need to have the right supporting C on him and I think that question Still Remains which is like how do you find the second best player on a championship team and at a
Certain point it just becomes really tough to do that if you’re not picking any direction to go find that yeah and I think like we’ve talked a lot about the Bulls picking a lane like they they’re in the lane that they’ve chosen I don’t know a lot of people are always like
They need to decide what they’re going to be they have chosen what they’re going to be the question is like how do you get something how do you add to your team long term if this is the lane that you’re in because they don’t seem move we will not accept mediocrity also we
Are choosing mediocrity uh we’ve got to take our second ad break then we’ll come back we’ve still got super chats to get to and of course we must award our Empire go of the night you see the Bel hit that like button if you didn’t do it
During the first ad break please do it now do it for Joseph he needs the thumbs he won’t put them in a jar on his desk he’s just going to put them in a dig wooden chest actually wooden like pirate treasure chest I could show you if you
Want to see after really do I very much would like to see your wooden chest of thumbs if it’s like thumbs poking out of this thing I’m gonna be like I know thumbs in it but I don’t know Jo your mind is something else sometimes man I am intrigued though I am
Intrigued we’re about to be the subject of a true crime podcast Joey spathis 22 year old seemed like a nice normal guy to all of his co-workers hook him yes I create thumbs loud verbal arguments with people who disrespected the Longhorns that’s right you don’t
Need a thumb to do hook him he’s like get it out of here you don’t need that give me the thumbs you know what Joey will never argue about though tell me the Great Deals you can get from Ray chrys or Dodge Jeep Ram you sure will
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Do you want to talk a little comment little comment I think I’m taking comad help this man I am mad at whoever brought up Bill Simmons in our comments uh it’s getting easier Dave for businesses to switch to electric vehicles it’s something we can all get
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Or whether you have a whole Fleet of shipping trucks George ComEd and help you guide help guide you no I have yeah okay I got this you know professional I’m I’m good to make the changes that makes sense yeah know I think it take it you guys uh so let me
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Now I mean right now and see how going electric connects us to a better way of doing business and a better future for generations to come e shout out baby joey shout out baby Joey I see while we were uh doing our ad reads that the Kobe
Love in the comments escalated to a point of comparing him to to dein Booker and Damen Lillard oh someone has uh compared him to Damen Lillard on this podcast before and it led to laughter bunch of good things a prophecy of B success how dare you use that word
Yes oh my wow it’s even way weirder than I thought some real creepy [ __ ] weird better wow and creepier than I imagine wow wow that is amazing Joey that’s really amazing wait go back no no no go back go back it’s like if Gollum had bat
Ears like what what is that near his uh foot there and Talons I don’t know see I just found the picture and I added my face and the thumbs to it okay so I didn’t I don’t want to take credit like I didn’t draw this or anything but yeah
That’s still amazing oh my God yeah so that’s him guys the video let me just drop the text for people that are confused you know if the videos don’t get enough likes um after midnight I become a goblin who has to go out and collect I didn’t even know that
You you got to be here where you going yeah Alex in the comment right there is a bit of a Gremlins vibe there Ryan just said the blue hell NES my thumbs precious well done Joy uh also uh shout out to Adam and his girlfriend Charlotte
Who Adam said in the comments is a new Bulls fan I’m so sorry out and now a CH fan she’s watching all right now while I’m out at putting League well Charlotte we apologize that one of the first things you saw was a creepy that’s a tough creepy Photoshop usually hoarding
Thumbs in a treasure chest got to say though it’s a good entrance into this show know who we really are so it’s a that’s pretty on the notes yeah it’s pretty accurate there that was awesome on the on the thumbs I or under Talent orever man that was good stuff Joe that
Was good I enjoyed that Lord I enjoy that so much oh God Niles I’m glad that my uh Gollum impression was uh up up to your standards give him no water after midnight we yeah never feed never feed him after midnight uh do we want to do
Super chats first or goon first let’s goon it cuz that was just some stuff goon it out be the man you got to beat the man I’m the man W Empire Today goon of the night 588 2300 troll Joey Empire that wasn’t bad not bad at all not bad at allar
Turning got the he a pump fake first he did he did he he did go all in he second guessed himself he faked it I respect the commitment though he did it was well done he go all in all in Joe we’re proud of you God that was awesome gonna haunt my
Dreams Jo Joey is all in your dreams oh man my God uh we the go go leave sir bring us back let know who is your take a deep breath of the night Dave you’re going to appreciate this because it’s not who I think is going to win okay but
I’m giving this person goon of the night because they owned me because when I was watching the game I said my God why are we running postup plays for Andre Drummond in the second quarter and then Andre Drummond dunked all over he did I don’t remember it was PJ Washington or
Miles brid but just committed some sort of homicide yeah and David said that’s why no that’s not what I said I said suck it will cuz that’s what happens every time everybody says why does this happen and then they do it suck it I’ve done it to
Myself done it to Matt I’ve done it to Joey and now will I I appreciated it and I’m taking it 10 points eight boards for Drummond and one Monster Jam that put me in my place that was awesome man what a you know what give m a second to get
Himself together there Joey give me your goon of the night I’m gonna go with Kobe oh because 35 points and you know I where do we draw the line but like is this now expected of Kobe are we are we just we’re going to brush over this he just he had 35 points
Tonight and nine assists I mean that’s that in of itself is pretty that’s goon Behavior it’s goon Behavior it’s up there Matthew PC sir you in the stash who is your goon of the night I don’t know if this is against the rules oh God but I don’t really care
Okay I’m not giving a go the night in a loving way at all tonight okay proud of Kobe happy for Kobe love Kobe great game he’ll get his credit he got his credit nobody else stood out tonight so I’m not awarding a goon of the night okay obstain I’m not obstain
AK you really want 30 some more games of this really you’re not the good kind of goon you’re the bad kind of goon do something so I’m sick of this [ __ ] s days 2 hours 36 minutes 45 seconds till the trade deadline I got a timer going got Le
Thank you very much well I’ll let Joey do that I’ll give him a second to get that together right there go ahead Joseph right there thank you Joseph F young man works hard troll Joey out there is that how you really run oh man that’s something all right Joey’s going
To the night good to the night Joe no it’s missing the drum roll too oh all the stuff that I like cartoon character goon of the night goes to Joey spathis Joey SP went good of the night Victory lab this dude has been on it tonight this dude has been out of his
Mind tonight listen with the stories that he was had me crying over there laughing about sitting over there watching this game to drawing up The Troll to putting his face on a troll right there to making this runaround that he just did to get mad his and to
Get it back to singing as a troll as also like that he’s done it all ladies and gentlemen he has been on his goon Behavior Joey spis is goon of the night yes you can put that on Joe Joy the only one who can fit that too speech speech
Speech spee i’ like to uh you know I saw some of the people saying that I should have voted for myself I wasn’t going to do that but I was going to hold out hope Dave was going to recognize me for my amazing goom tonight thank you George
Thank you Lisa thank you to um all the van people that drive the Vans uh for them and uh uh hook them and not roll Tide well done Joseph spis man we are proud of you over here sir we are proud of you can can I point out a coincidence
Okay the last time you awarded goon of the night to someone in our crew uhhuh you awarded it to me I did for one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard which was just eating Taco Bell drinking a few beers and well it was one of the dumbest
Things I’ve seen done so you deserve that that is goon [ __ ] what did we do tonight did I order Taco Bell and get Joey some Taco Bell you did so you’re two and 0 with the Taco Bell taco two and 0 with the taco what what did you
Say will Taco Bell never disappoints did I say that you said you said something about praising t-bell while you were chowing down that crunch I have praise for t- I don’t know if I said that but I I believe it he’s got love for t- Bale is
What he’s saying he’s got love for the baale bring the baale Joe you got a bail over there I mean all the sound fact got this okay we’ll take that think we what was that one of those like birthday Kazo that was party noise maker is what that one is called
Okay uh Joe let’s do some super chats let’s do it here we go matd legend Maddie shout out mty legend by the way Bulls win Kobe IO Caruso tiny Drummond Drumm and starting lineup Caruso goon of the night no sorry it’s actually me for not letting us lose with 48 seconds left
Man now tiny Drumm is this Terry Taylor I think that’s Terry Taylor Max got to be Terry Taylor okay unless Drummond got like a penny and Little Penny commercial that I don’t know about shout out to those Mar that was awesome some of y’all might be too young to
Remember those yeah sorry AK he’s got three years so he says Bulls played okay until three minutes left in the second quarter played then played excellent defense low turnovers and went to work third Corner third quarter continued to play inspired ball they did even V was trying on defense Kobe balled out at
Home in North Carolina he’s right about those turnover that turnovers are really high in that first half man at one point I believe they cored it in the second half I think they had seven in the first half and finished with nine yeah but you know just like they did last night gave
Up a bunch of points off turnovers they lost that battle points off turnover tonight 21 to2 yeah lost it last night 30 to 14 yes um all right AK Javon Carter been putrid what value does he provide give somebody a rest give guys a rest what would you say
You do here yeah gives guys a resting and breathing man hopefully he can he and Billy can get together if time is the issue and being out there then hopefully he and Billy can get together on that but at the same time I think the time might be limited because of the
Play yeah you know that could be a case too but hopefully you know they find some meum ground cuz or meeting ground I should say but yeah man they’re going to need him if they’re going to keep him hopefully he’s still worse yeah I mean at least he played seven minutes that
That is a nonzero amount and he did not you know and he scor positively affected the game tonight as we mentioned he was a minus 12 but it’s it’s still doing something yeah as opposed to doing nothing that’s true yes like the guy who signed
Him uh AK Subzero is hard to stop as he throws unpredictable combos like Street Fighter opponents are either Frozen or are watching him play he’s going to go Mortal Kombat because he’s Subzero but I like the unpredictable I feel like that might be what he was going for I like that I
Liked it I liked it I dug it also Street Fighter great game yo amazing great Street Fighter Arcade style yeah you tell me Street Fighter 2 is the greatest video game of all time I won’t argue you uh there are a few different uh arcade bars around Chicago that has Street
Fighter 2 there are there definitely are I’ve been to one of them and had a ball out there they also had the old school Madden which I was whooping my nephew ass on cuz I was just letting them know nephew catching straight oh man just let
Him know your uncle used to be a beast your uncle was a beast and then he took me over to the newer video C was whooping my ass over there so oh my goodness what else we got Joe uh do you read this as Eli or Ellie uh I I think I
Usually read it as Eli I say Eli so I I think it’s Ellie because keep getting my name wrong if you want to know ask veneer sha her big white socks fan Big C show white sock fan we appreciate that appreciate you for always being around
Here no he’s actually planning a trip to America soon saw that in the chat the other day he says can I trade AK and Mark everley mhm uh for for a bag of chips what kind of I don’t know if there’s a trading of a lot of NBA
Executives going on yeah also like let us know spell it out phonetically if we’re pronouncing it incorrectly I I always read that as Eli it’s the guy’s name U but uh yeah like hit us up when you com stat side for sure and Shout out for supporting our CH white sock crew
For Real uh and no I don’t think think we can or will trade Acme pronunciation on on the plus side they won’t trade anybody either so that’s great last but not least from Zeke Zeke did the Charlotte Hornets make the correct decision by drafting Brandon Miller considering the current emphasis on size
And shooting in the NBA well he fits the prototypical style of what an NBA play what you wanted an NBA player with that size with the shooting with the ball handling can do a pretty much a little bit of everything in that Paul George kind of mode
Say rookie year is too soon to make that declaration mhm whether it’s like you know did they get it right or should they have taken scoot instead or anybody else from this rookie class too soon to tell we did note in pregame that brandan Miller especially with the Hornets being
Short-handed has been given a larger role recently and has been doing some solid things with it he looks solid out there though man like yeah look he looked better in his school I don’t really think there’s an argument to be made for a realistic person that you
That would would have maybe gone like it was really only Scoot and I don’t think there’s any it Brandon Miller and Scoot like flipping back and forth up until draft night and I think like you look at who the best rookies have been wem’s been great Chad obviously wasn’t in this
Class and then like Lively’s been really good and hakz has been really good but I think 29 other teams would have probably taken scoot I would have taken Scoot and I think I would have taken scoot even if Brandon Miller ends up being a better player like the process-wise probably
Still leans towards taking scoot so I don’t know I I think brenon Miller is a much better player this season but longer term I’ve still got my money on scoot okay all right Miller is playing well though man very well yes for sure mhm uh AK threw us one last second Super
Chat saying Dave I had thumb blisters from Street Fighter uh combos rayu versus Ken yeah I actually think I saw that in my in my chest there was one thumb that was all like mangled up so I figured that was from U AK uh speaking
Of which I believe I saw George Senor in the comments a minute ago asking for a copy of that graphic so absolutely not hey man that’s that’s your father you show him some respect show that man respect sir shout out Lisa uh that’s it we’re out of time for tonight thank you
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Ellington that’s what I meant that’s what I meant I meant Lou Armstrong you matching up Duke Ellington and Lou Armstrong yeah that’s exactly what happened whatever you’ll get him next time je whatever I’m the Goon of the night I’m the Goon of the night Jo is in
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Caleb Williams!!
Troll Joey in my dreams nooooo😭