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Can the Kings Trade For Kyle Kuzma Without Giving Up A Major Piece?



Can the Kings Trade For Kyle Kuzma Without Giving Up A Major Piece?

There’s a good question from Dr David yeah in the chatty house youtube.com ESPN 1320 twitch.tv ESPN 1320 if you want to hang out with us hang out in the chatty house always a good conversation happening there uh regardless of what we’re talking about chatty house is gonna have

A good combo going that’s what I love about it you can join it there Dr David asked if um Monty McNair would include Sasha and any trades that is a really really intriguing question yeah yeah and so have to look at Sasha in a couple of

Different ways too yeah so first of all he signed a three-year deal but the third year is non- guaranteed or it’s partially guaranteed and so like a team could look at him in a couple of different ways for me if I’m looking at it right now and I have to choose

Between him and Trey LS and all honesty I choose Trey lyes yeah it’s not even a question for me yeah so that’s so if he has to be included in a trade my only concern is that the Kings believe what the Kings believe he will be and and how much they

Sold him being in Sacramento for his career as part of this equation and all that I there is something in me that says that there like promises may have been made to get him to to Sacramento and then to go back on your word and trade him three months later might not

Have been what some of those promises were about and so I I think that he does have game and I think that there is a way that can’t help a team and I even think there’s there’s a way he can help the Kings I I would agree but I I’d even

Say at this point if you were to go get out go out and get another forward I would probably include one of my forwards and if I had to choose between my forwards I’m gonna have you know Kean Murray is Untouchable in this scenario and then after that the next guy down is

The next best player is Harrison Barnes and then the next best I would start tearing them and then you have to see what what you can get away with a trade and you know like we were talking at the break and someone for some reason people

Bring up Jonathan Isaac all the time and like can I real quick talk about Sasha real quick last thing on it it’s not about getting rid of Sasha no it’s not the like the Kings need to just get rid of this guy it is that hey you know what

He could probably be a valuable asset who doesn’t have a consistent role here and maybe another team views him as a valuable asset who could have a consistent role on their team that’s why his is being brought up it’s not because he stinks or something no well and I’d

Even add that if you’re looking at him and and uh and Trey L if you’re looking at them as potential trade guys right one of them makes eight million one of them makes like six and a half so like they’re almost interchangeable in a deal

And that’s why I I bring him up it’s like again when you’re looking at the Sacramento Kings you have to look at players at some point as their salary cap figure you’ve got Fox and you’ve got sabonis and you’ve got Keegan Murray and then you have to know what Keegan Murray

Will be down the road as far as salary then after that like it sounds horrible and and just like not very nice but Kevin herder has to be looked at as like a 17.5 million doll salary as a as a trade block that you can move and

Harrison Barnes if you need to get if you’re trying to get a $40 million player it’s going to take a 17 and a $18 million player to get to 35 so you’re within 25% to make a trade and that’s how you have to look at these guys at

Some point which is which is lame and not cool and and it it’s it feels bad but the reality man but it is it is a reality that these guys are you know you can’t go out and trade Davon Mitchell for anyone in the league he makes five

Million bucks and then if you tack in Chris Wes four million bucks now you got n million so now you might be able to get up to12 million player so that’s how you have to kind of look at these things at some point and it’s not just like how

Do I throw all these things in and have them come out the other side and like you know have a trade work because there are very strict rules to NBA trades yeah yeah it’s not like that’s why I like the NFL so much with their salary cap structure because you can trade anybody

For anybody as long as you got the cap space for it well yeah but then you deal with dead money and you deal with all no no doubt it’s not it’s not 100% that but it’s not you don’t have to salary match and do all that it’s like if the

Salaries work for this year you gota you you have to figure out next year next year but if the salaries work this year you’re golden yeah totally totally and anyway to to back to Jonathan is finish the point on Jonathan Isaac like I like Jonathan Isaac as a player like there’s

He does fit like what you might think the Kings need 611 crazy wingspan crazy athleticism Kyle he’s played 176 games in a seven-year career and Harrison Barnes games played streak is at 185 that the conversation’s over I’m not paying a guy 17.6 million next year as well who doesn’t play

Basketball and it’s unfortunate because you know the kings were on the court when he blew out his knee in the bubble and watching Harry Giles go over and talk to him while he’s laying on the ground and had blown out his ACL and you knew he had blown out his ACL and

Watching Harry Giles a guy who had been through it multiple times having like a conversation with him on the court that was hard yeah but that’s you if you want to be a team that doesn’t miss games you don’t go trade for players that Miss

Games mhm you know it is what it is even even when and and again I I just I couldn’t agree more with you this is not about Jonathan Isaac on paper necessarily no like because on paper he makes all the sense in the world and honestly a reason he’s probably

Available is because of everything you just said if Jonathan Isaac was playing 80 games a year 75 games a year whatever number I don’t think the magic are like yeah we need to get rid of this guy well they probably wouldn’t have drafted both Mo Vagner and poo banero they probably

Wouldn’t even have been in the running to draft one of those players because they probably would have been a better team yeah but the fact is he’s not he doesn’t play and you’re not a good team when he’s on you’re he doesn’t help your team win because he can’t stay on the

Court long enough to play Yeah and I don’t hate the idea of like if Jonathan Isaac was a free agent yeah like a low budget like twoe five take a flyer right that’s and in fact frankly that’s what I think the Kings need to probably do a

Lot of this offseason is just go find yeah hey you’re 610 and athletic maybe you can play maybe he can’t get in here and we’ll see and if he has a free agent I would love the idea I’d be all aboard yeah but I’m not giving up assets to go

Get him no I’m I’m fully I’m fully on board with that too it’s tough because some of these players they can’t help you but you have to balance so many things when when you’re you’re making commitments and like you’re certainly not going to trade Harrison Barnes a guy

Who doesn’t miss any games for a guy who plays yeah you know what amounts to two NBA seasons in seven no matter how gez putting it like that is nuts um that and that’s just it no matter how much better Jonathan Isaac is than Harrison Barnes Harrison Barnes is better when Jonathan

Isaac isn’t playing yeah I mean that’s yeah and I I I would say that Harrison Barnes has proven to be a much better player than Jonathan Isaac over his career and part of that’s because Jonathan Isaac just can’t like he can’t develop as a player because he’s not on

The court yeah his third season he played 34 games he’s 11.9 points 6.8 uh boards and over two blocks a game almost two and a half Blocks game yeah Carol Linko that’s what he you’d love right you’d you’d love that stat line is the King’s backup center he’s a he’s a Andre

Kolinko type player like a or I shouldn’t say backup center next to De yeah he’s a disruptive fourth he can be he he but the fact that he can’t play yeah most of the time like hey the conversation’s over yeah we can talk and that’s so and like I said you can talk

Injury flyers in in free agency that’s fine but at the at the trade deadline I would way rather go see them get a player that they they are much more confident will be on the court and impactful for this year no totally that’s if they’re making a move you’ve

Gota you’ve got to improve the top like I would say I would like to see them improve the starting lineup but I think you’re more likely you need to improve the uh the top seven of your rotation I want to get back to what we were talking about earlier with uh

I it’s not a report from the athletic there’s a write a discussion in the athletic a write up an article in the athletic yeah from David Aldridge and Josh Robbins David Aldridge of course Very plugged in in Washington DC Josh Robbins is a is a beat writer for the

Wizards out there um Kyle kosma they basically they went through the entire Wizards roster and were like all right if they make the whole roster available who goes where For What and the kings came up as AIT for Kyle kma and the deal that and I don’t want to get into the

Kma fit does he fit does he not like we’ve done that a million times y talked about the merits of it great the trade that Josh Robbins lays out is Kyle kozma to the Kings for Kevin herder and Trey Lyles and I know that you’re big on the

Kyle kosma idea because his contract is relatively affordable he does things that would immediately help the Kings if you plug them into their rotation and again that affordability aspect of it is is key do you still like the deal if it’s herder plus ly no and I think one

Of the reasons why like I’m not even considering that deal like maybe you consider like again Davon Mitchell and um and Kevin herder and in a trade right sure but I don’t think I’m I’m crushing my debt dep and then having to come up with the new starting shooting guard in

Order to make that deal and uh again I like kozma yes I as a player I like his contract better and I also like the idea that if Kyle kusma doesn’t work out a year from now two years from now because of his contract and and just the

Declining scale and what it is it’s so easily movable if it doesn’t work out just okay it didn’t work out we can move him very easily right I think if you’re dealing with Washington Washington is a team who on the season is 9 and 37 N9 and 37 that’s they’re done they’re cooked

And they’re not cooked this year they’re cooked next year they’re probably cooked the year after and they thought they thought they were assembling a team that was gonna like win a little I think they’re assembling a team that would help them like get through a time right

Like a right group of Seasons they thought they were putting together a roster that wasn’t going to be 9 and 37 after 46 games yes so at this point though if you’re dealing with Washington what Washington watches it is the trade capital and I think the biggest piece to

What Josh Robbins and and David Aldridge wrote was very specific it’s that you know Washington has been asking for two second two first round picks but that price is probably a little higher than what they’re willing to accept and so if I’m the Kings I’m trying to figure out a

Way to piece together a deal that does not include Uh Kevin herder certainly and and not even Harrison Barnes if this is the player Harrison Barnes is goingon to be and I can get that player Harrison Barnes the player the last few games yeah the one from the last few games but

The one that’s been in t over the last five years right if I can get that player as my third forward with Keegan Murray and Kyle kosma as my starters okay so now how do I construct a de a deal and like there are ways you

Can do it but but that’s where you start like okay if you have to trade Trey lyes in a deal like that where you’re not giving up Kevin hder but you’re giving up Tre lyes but so you’re looking at lyes you’re looking at dwarte you’re looking at Davon Mitchell and throw in

Whether it’s Kessler or throw in like that’s you can make the money work without attaching either herder or Barnes and now if you the Kings and you’re trying to get good now and you’re trying to take a huge step now there’s a way that you can do that with out

Touching the run it back core where you’re inserting a a top five player into your rotation maybe a probably a starter yeah if you’re yeah yeah yeah let’s even say like kozma might even be like your fourth best player maybe fifth right right there but if you’re doing

That now what that does to the rest of your rotation is amazing and the fact that you’re losing Trey L is a bummer but the fact that you’re inserting Harrison Barn into that that spot right and kma is taking Harrison barnes’s spot in the rotation yeah see now that’s when

It’s like okay would I give up a first yeah I’m giving up a lottery protected first yes um in 2026 and 27 well like whatever but I’m also giving up maybe one or two second round picks as well and and I think that that is a happy

Medium where you’re they may not want the player that’s kind of where they’re at they don’t need the player what they need is a couple of contracts a couple people that might actually fit into their rotation right now just so they can get through this season and next but

Realistically they’re they’re making a trade to get to uh to get the draft picks the draft Capital yeah and that’s where so our guy Buddha said that’s a championship level team right there uh I I don’t that I don’t know but I feel way better about that version of the Kings

Than I do one the one that you just laid out where it’s K in the starting lineup and now Harrison Barnes is is your seventh guy yeah and that that I like that so

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