Why Doc Rivers has struggled early with Bucks, can Giannis & Dame fix it?| Hoops Tonight
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So you guys don’t miss any of our content over the course of this season all right let’s talk some basketball one of the interesting things down the stretch of bucks Blazers was leaning into switching both teams down the stretch leaning a lot into switching the Bucks readily switching their smaller
Guards onto Jeremy Grant into SC scens and then on the other end of the floor one of the things that the Blazers were doing they played this young Wing named tman Kamar on Daman Lillard who was doing a really good job just with his length and athleticism kind of
Containing there and then what they would do is anytime they’d set a screen with Brook Lopez or Janis sanana kmo you’d just see DeAndre or Jeremy Grant just switch on to Dame in a lot of those sequences and so turned into a lot of one-on-one basketball down the stretch
And it was like Jeremy Grant making you know tough shots over the top anony Simons the gamewinner that he had that left right euro into the floater was ridiculous and then on the other end of the floor Dame kind of picking on those switches had a really explosive dunk
Driving by DeAndre Aton that was kind of encouraging like again I really do think a lot of Dame’s struggles some of them come down to him and just his ability to make shots and how he’s been struggling on that front but a good chunk of it is
I think Rhythm and just kind of figuring out where his opportunities are to attack with that particular group but it was kind of an interesting uh port team because Portland kind of gets written off as one of the bad teams around the league but they have a lot of talent
Like deand rton can go into the post and he can get over to that left shoulder and he can make that hook shot over the top you play off of Malcolm Brogden when he’s doing his between the legs dribbles he can rise up and he can knock down
That pullup three Anthony Simons was like basically Dame’s Protege for a while and has added a lot of that highlevel shot making that Dame had and he’s a bigger better athlete than Dame was like they have a lot of Firepower and they can cause problems for teams
Jeremy GR is a is a good basketball player and like like his shot making and especially from three has been kind of a revelation over the course of this last segment of his career these are all really good basketball players and they are a tough matchup especially in
Portland and you know Milwaukee had a really ugly stretch there in the middle of the fourth quarter Damen Lillard was just throwing the ball away all over the place again I want to give some credit to Tani kamaro for just the job he did applying ball pressure and forcing him
Into a lot of those turnovers Yan ran somebody over and had a turn over was missing free throws it was just ugly as the Bucks went down by double digits but they made some plays late Portland was deliberately ignoring Brook Lopez and help defense situations which ended up
Becoming a theme at the very end of the game which we’ll get to in a few minutes but Brooke hit a couple of big threes Dame had that driving dunk against DeAndre Aton to make it in a one-point game and all of a sudden it was a close
Basketball game then we get our final sequence so it was 115 to 112 Dame comes off the ball screen gets DeAndre Eon on the switch beats him off the dribble Rises up throws it down again very encouraging Play Just for where Dame is at physically then they get a stop they
Run a ball screen with Jeremy Grant on Anthony Simons they switch or Anthony Simons sets a ball gets a ball screen from Jeremy Grant Malik Beasley switches onto Jeremy Grant they go to make the post entry into Jeremy Grant and Malik Beasley does a really nice like kind of
Three quarter front gets around and knocks the ball away and forces a steal so then on the ensuing play on the sideline out of bounds the Bucks Run a wide pin down into a dribble handoff which is also known as a zoom scre Zoom action right so imagine a a Dame
Starting in the uh in the corner right and imagine Chris Middleton inbounding the ball to Giannis and as right after he inbounds he runs down and sets a pin down for Dame so that his Defender is already navigating a screen before he gets into the dribble handoff Dame comes
Off the dribble handoff gets a little bit of air space Rises up for three and misses after the Miss Portland gets the defensive rebound but Giannis and Malik Beasley apply some back backourt ball pressure onto Anthony Simons and they force a steal next thing you know Dame
Is throwing the ball up to Giannis at the basket for a dunk all of a sudden Portland’s up by one so from there Portland goes down the floor and they run a cleared ISO just basically a 1 14 flat for aern Simons against Malik Beasley he makes a a nice
Dribble move going to his left a nasty Left Right Euro Step into that floater an fry Simons is one of the best floaters in the game really athletic play too really impressive footwork makes a tough shot so it’s 116 115 so the Bucks go down the floor and they run
The exact same Zoom action but Doc Rivers makes a little bit of a tweak instead of having Chris Middleton as the guy who sets the pin down and Giannis with the dribble handoff instead he has Giannis set the pin down and he has Brook Lopez run the dribble handoff
Here’s where that’s interesting knowing before that what we saw from the that that middle to late portion of the fourth quarter Portland was completely unconcerned with Brook Lopez taking threes now he did burn them he made a couple but in that fourth quarter stretch but we knew that Portland’s game
Plan was to ignore Brook Lopez right so what’s interesting about that is the first time they ran the zoom action it was Chris and Giannis and Brooke was on the weak side and so as as a result Dame when he came off of the ball screen had
A little bit of space didn’t have a double team coming right when you run a ball screen which a dribble handoff is effectively a ball screen when you run a screen for the ball handler where the screener is a guy the defense is not worried about shooting you are inviting
A double team and so basically what ended up happening is Doc Rivers made a double team far easier for Portland to execute damee comes off the dribble handoff and Brook uh uh basically uh Malcolm Brogden just completely ignores uh uh uh Brook Lopez and double teams
Dame they throw the ball back to Brook Lopez he pump fakes actually gets a pretty solid look but he misses it they have to foul Portland goes down they make two free throws then it was the second confusing decision from Doc Rivers he has Damen Lillard inbound down
Three two yanis and I think there was like what 5 seconds left or so and of course Portland immediately fouls this now again one of the things I saw going around on Twitter last night that is a pet action for Milwaukee at the end of a game what they’ll do is they’ll have
Dame inbound to Giannis Giannis will just basically hand it right back off to Dame so that he can get ahead of steam and a little bit of a ball screen type of thing in the back court to get going they ran that exact same action against the Sacramento Kings when Dame hit his
Gamewinner but there was a big difference they were only down by two in that game against Sacramento so the idea of fouling gets more convoluted right because you yeah you might like Giannis is a a poor free throw shooter but you’re not just going to gift wrap him a
Chance to go to the line and tie the game right but down by three where most teams are making a decision over whether or not they want to play defense or they want to foul you’re now making that decision for them and so Portland immediately fouls Giannis he goes down
And misses both free throws and the game is over now for the record cuz there’s going to be there I saw I saw it on Twitter last night a lot of people going after Duc that’s not why they lost the game you you didn’t lose the game
Because of those decisions at the end but like even with that weird kind of layout for the zoom action Brook Lopez still got a pretty damn good look and he missed it and he had just made two so I I feel like that’s kind of playing the
Result so to speak if Brook Lopez makes that you call him a genius right again I would say whenever you got a guy that’s going to be double teamed off of I don’t want him in it ball screen I’d rather have him off the ball so it’s just a
Little bit easier to manage but they still got a decent look that’s how it turned out right on the Baseline out of bounds again don’t like the configuration but it was a one-point game after the infiny Simons floater I look back to like how about Dame
Throwing the ball all over the court in the middle of the fourth quarter when he just was struggling with Portland’s ball pressure just in general some of the ways that Milwaukee’s offense bogged down in the middle of that fourth quarter so to me in a 48 minute game
It’s really silly to pretend like that’s the reason why they lost it’s not the case however there just have been some questionable decisions from Doc in these first couple of games with him as the head coach and mainly what I point to there because what I talked about is
When they hired doc I liked it because Adrien Griffin wasn’t exactly some sort of tactical genius but he was really struggling to motivate the group the group did not believe in him and so I thought doc would be able to come in pull out some belief from that group and
Clean up the margins get them better at the point of attack defensively get them better in helping recover situations defensively and specifically get them better in transition defense sprinting back getting matched up and communicating things along those lines right I didn’t think doc was going to
Come in and just be some sort of schematic genius that’s not what he’s known for right but here’s the thing margin for error in the postseason is very small this is something I talk about all the time like if you really look back at these specific series and
The way some of these uh games have gone o over the course of of over the course of the playoffs in recent years you can point to singular points where things s right like you look at like the Phoenix series Phoenix tied that series The Phoenix Denver series Phoenix tied that
Series at two and in game two they kind of had a lead there for a while and it kind of slipped away late Denver earned that win but like you can see it’s like okay if game two goes differently what if Phoenix takes a bigger lead maybe
They have a better chance right the Lakers Warriors series in game four it’s like Lonnie Walker hits a bunch of tough pullup jump shots over Steph Curry and Steph gets a couple of looks against Anthony Davis late now well defended looks but maybe those go in and and the
Series looks different right like the seven game series is going to more often than not put the best team forward that’s the design of a seven game series but the margins are tight in a seven game series as well and so in tight margins you can’t afford to make
Significant mistakes and so between that end of game play between some of the offensive layout stuff that I’ve pointed out between that weird switch against Denver we talked about they were switching and then scram switching against Denver down the stretch and they had it configured nicely so that Giannis
Would end up on Jamaal Murray and Brook Lopez would end up on Nicole yic but down the stretch randomly when they got it 2-1 possession game Doc switched it up and put Brooke on Jamal in the switch and he got cooked and you’re like what
Why why why did you switch that up right so like again it’s not a major concern it’s just something to keep an eye on because like the margin Milwaukee’s not going to sweep Boston Milwaukee’s not going to sweep some of the you know Miami or something like that it’s going
To be tight contested series and you like those kinds of mistakes can swing games and can swing series so it’s just something worth keeping an eye on in the short term one last thing I wanted to get to on the Bucks as well uh it was not a good defensive game overall for
Milwaukee and Portland but in the fourth quarter they were really good they held him to an offensive rating below 90 a bunch of key stops specifically once again I thought Malik Beasley and Damen Lillard really turned up their defensive engagement down the stretch of that game and for the record
It’s been a theme this season as you can see in the the numbers for Milwaukee and their clutch defense but there are some encouraging notes coming out of the early doc Rivers’s situation in Milwaukee where you’re seeing just better defensive engagement at least in specific spots and that could go a long
Way for this team and what their playoff potential is so again in a loss still some encouraging stuff coming out of Milwaukee He
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16 Comments
Yes, they can fix it. If they could do so much with a crappy coach like Griffin, they can figure it out. They almost beat the defending champs a couple days ago, they just need to get used to doc.
Two games in, why are we freaking out? They were close games too
He over Exaggerate everything.
There's definitely reason to be encouraged and there's also reason to be concerned. We'll see what happens post all star break.
10:45 Brook really didn't get 'cooked' by Murray, Murray is just most underrated player in the league, super smart and super highly skilled and will kill you if you give him any open shots and he couldn't miss from that midrange.
They should get the Bucks OIC coach with a perfect win record 2-0 and sit doc out until after the playoffs, Lol.
Historically, the bucks always had a trash bench, particularly at the point guard position. They always blow leads when the bench comes in. But this season, they have a historically weak bench with an atrocious plus minus thats why it always end up a clutch game even against lottery teams like portland and pistons. Their bench is the BIGGEST problem
I want this to work so bad.
My man, since ESPN doesnt do their homework and probably underpays their researchers, can you point out in a video how Embiid has basically stat padded and does not deserve any praise this season? He has only played 13 games against teams above 0.500 this season. I'm not even talking about contenders, these include 3 games against the pacers and 2 against the magic when they were all busted up. He has missed 12 road games, 10 of which were against teams above 0.500. We can dive deeper if you want but even at face value, its BLATANTLY clear that embiid CHOOSES his games by having a steady diet of lottery teams and home games.
Even with the benefit of the doubt that he isnt choosing these games (which I seriously doubt because there is historical data on this), he SHOULD NOT be getting all this praise like he's the NBA's princess getting the softest criticisms ever and just non stop divinification. If the other MVP candidates are also well rested only to play lottery teams and home games then they should also get historically great numbers
2 games….
It's been 2 games he probably hasn't even had a full practice yet but honestly this roster is weak dame 3-10 from 3, turnovers the bench is awful what do you expect but always blame the coach they could have Phil Jackson and they would lose
I love people overreacting, just like the Mavs guy who said "Harden was the problem" and now Clippers has 2 participants in the All-star game, the team as a whole doing great
I’m wondering why we are expecting ANYTHING after 2 games. Makes no sense
I saw that floater, it reminded me of Tony Parker. Tony would do falling down floaters, never saw him dunk.
He’s struggling because he’s brought the rot he’s been carrying with him for YEARS!!!
It is docs fault, great coach popovich put manu ginobili on the bench because it got them 5 rings.