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The “BEST” Raptor of All-Time… Fred VanVleet?



The “BEST” Raptor of All-Time… Fred VanVleet?

Today has been a fever dream of sorts this morning we woke up to the news that obviously last night we knew Scotty Barnes wasn’t going to be an Allstar it is what it is we we accept it the Raptors suck we’re losing it’s tough to

Get a guy It’s On The Fringe you know stats wise into the All-Star game but we heard that Miles Turner and Derek white are two players that are ahead of him in the totem pole in terms of potentially getting into the All-Star game so it starts off with that and then you know

Your day goes along you’re dealing with all you know we’re going to play the rocket snipe Fred Van Ved all that type of stuff and then news comes out that your favorite team is favored it to acquire the worst basketball player in the entire NBA no shade toward Killian Hayes

There’s worst players in kilan Hayes that have been in the league and stuff but in terms of guys actually in NBA rotations there’s an argument to be made that he is one of the worst players in the NBA right now sure there’s potential and stuff but you

Know not the greatest name to be thrown your hat into the mix of at least at this moment in time maybe he could develop into something great if we acquired him and then tonight we face the Houston Rockets are we favored did no but the Raptors even when we’re bad

We try hard that Tampa Tank season we tried our hardest out there the games were somewhat watchable the Crimson Flynn Flynn sanity was going crazy with Kem Burch you know that second half of that Tampa Tank season and people were trying out there on the B basetball

Court but this Raptor team even though we got a decent game from Scotty there’s some bright spots for sure we got shter trying to fight people or at least hold on to the basketball all that type of stuff we looked Dead We Looked lethargic we looked just mentally out of it and

I’m hoping I am praying regardless we don’t win another game this season that this lethargy this lack of energy this losing sort of mentality is gone after the trade deadline I’m assuming that this is just a case of half the team being afraid they’re going to get dealt

In the next next few days so why even try right so that’s that’s my I’m holding out hope for that thought process there and to make this day even weirder just feel like even more crazy here now at this point the Rockets broadcaster came out and had this to say

About Fred Van vet you know entering in this game here tonight I saw it on Reddit app v may we’ll talk about this the best Raptor of all time that’s right folks Fred vanet are arguably the greatest Toronto Raptor of all time now I wanted to start off this vid you know

Thanking Fred you know how many points did he have in this game and his return or to action for the against the Toronto Raptors you know 10 points six assists congratulate Fred vanley he got a win all that type of stuff but then I see this which just makes this day feel that

Much more confusing that much more disorienting just not even as a fan not even as a fan of the Raptors of the NBA of basketball and stuff but just of common sense in general not that I’m a fan of common sense I feel like that’s a buzzword that but I

Mean how on Earth could anyone I get that Fred vanely is one of the cooler stories in mb in Raptor’s history you know being an undrafted guy that came to the team won a championship made an All-Star Squad became the highest paid undrafted player in basketball history probably the greatest undrafted player

Maybe Ben Wallace you know he has the more story career but Fred has more of his story to write could be the greatest undrafted player of all time that’s a that’s a title you could throw out there and you can make an argument for but greatest Toronto Raptor of all time is

Like me going out to the Houston Rockets in 2013 and saying man that Kevin Martin after he got traded from Oklahoma City Thunder that’s the greatest Houston Rocket of all time that might be a bit of an exaggeration but that’s like me saying hey is it even Dwight Howard I

Don’t even know the comparison for the HED of rockets here now at this point but that is downright crazy that is just again bad takes they’re just out there you know you could float them around you can toss them you can dial them up all that type of stuff but when

You make comments like that like Fred Van vet is better than the likes you know in terms of what he did for the Tron Raptors and stuff Kyle DeMar rosen everyone knows that have watched this podcast for a while I’m not a fan of Vince Carter but Vince Carter the one

Year of kawhai Leonard Pascal cakam Chris Bosch Antonio Davis the mighty I don’t even know what what list you sort of want to go on sure there’s an argument for that definitely in the top 10 or something along those lines you know especially you look back to the

Championship run I feel like the opinions of Fred Van Ved are sort of uh you know bashed on a little bit given how things ended with the Toronto Raptors but number one there’s no argument there’s no world where anyone that has ever watched has ever looked at

The Toronto Raptor logo has ever just been a fan of the NBA could argue in their right mind Fred Van v is the greatest Toronto Raptor in Raptor’s history I don’t know this day has just been all over the place again the Raptors if you miss this game horrible

Loss brutal game we are building a culture of losing if we continue to have games like this and I’m cool with a quick retool a quick little rebuild a quick little shakeup I’m cool with tanking this year if it means we get this draft pick but I’m not cool with

Games like that because that’s when you get into the the sort of mindset of the Detroit Pistons of the world the Washington Wizards of the world where hey let’s lose these games the Charlotte Hornets where you got lamelo ball chilling on the sideline you know laughing and giggling while the team is

Down by 35 like it’s a slippery slope games like this are slippery slope for the Toronto Raptors and again there’s some bright spots again Scotty Barnes 28 points seven rebounds four assists but didn’t really feel like anything too too crazy IQ hit some shots which is a great thing

To see I’m happy to see Emanuel quickley and yaka purle back into the lineup and folks frankly I lied to all of you guys I we’re talking about bad takes you know nothing not as bad as the Fred Van vet one but I said with a center in the

Lineup you know A Center on this team we’re not going to be good but we’re not going to be you know Detroit level’s bad well I lied to you at least tonight because with yakob purle with an actual Center back in the lineup we looked that bad we looked horrible we looked brutal

This team just sucked tonight it was no other way to put it no other way to put it Emanuel quickly Scotty burns put up some solid numbers but again another mid game from Gary Trent Jr having some big ones lat lately but hit a couple threes at least but disheartened you know pral

20 minutes in this game Bruce Brown Five Points he’s just waiting to get the flight out got a couple blocks couple steals at least you know helping the folks that have him on his fantasy team but War only 16 minutes after the guy has been an absolute monster for this

Team you can make the argument oh minus 21 minus 21 well you know what no one had a good plus minus in this game Jordan War should be a guy seeing if he’s a guy to keep long term Dennis shuder again eight points two rebounds regress into the mean a little bit Grady

Dick you watch him play man and he’s doing a lot of things out there he took a charge in this game he’s hustling you know he’s he’s a grinder you got to get more than three points Chief you got to get you got to be better than one of

Eight from the field oh four from behind the three-point line seven rebounds awesome stuff three steals awesome stuff gry dick has earned himself some minutes to work through the inconsistencies he has as a shooter early on in his career love that love that for Grady dick but

But love to see some more shots go down too inconsistent right now but the dude’s 20 years old I’m not worried long term but something you have to bring up you know when you’re reacting to every single one of these games that young looks good that young

Is playing his way to getting a second round pick so shout out to Thad man shout out to to Thad chadus young he’s playing his way over the past couple weeks he’s going to convince the Boston Celtics he’s going to convince one of these squads that he is deserved Ving of

A squad giving up a second round pick for us so you know what shout out to that I pray he gets a chance to win a championship this season he’s a good vet playing his hard out for the Toronto Raptors here out at this point G Temple

Got four mans McDaniels my goodness that is a that’s a bad basketball player right now not in the context of things not uh to bash on the guy everyone all these guys would cook me cook anyone off the street and all that type of stuff but I

Saw I saw someone say I don’t even know I think Marcel sent it to me but like Jay MD is not making the guong Tigers right now he’s struggling to make those you know overseas leagues he’s playing down in h South America or something that’s where Jay Jaylen McDaniels is

Playing next it’s a bit harsh I feel bad he’s a good Defender but you know this team sucks right now it is what it is a part of it I think is just everyone’s on edge about potenti trades coming over the next few days so I’m hoping things

Sort of ease thems into place you know as uh the day Dre deadline happens but we can’t be looking this bad we can’t be losing games to this level to this extent to close out this year or else we’re going to breed a horrible culture for the young guys moving forward let me

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38 Comments

  1. Fred has everyone whipped; the media, the fanbase, and even the present Raps players. He can do no wrong and everyone wanted to laugh and shake dude's hand after the game. Sad to say but Pat Bev was right. No dogs.

  2. Question: Cam Whitmore 25 pts (10-17 fg) vs Gradey Dick 3pts (1-8 fg)- who should the pick have been?

    Cam is still 19 years old and won't turn 20 until the summer. Gradey turned 20 in November.

  3. I think a good comp regarding the Fred take would be something like, “and there’s Robert Horry, perhaps the greatest Rocket of all time “ 😂

  4. Watched the raptors for many years now but that Houston game wow.

    Schroeder is an absolute donkey on the court. That ball holding scene legit sums up how autistic this team is rn.

  5. Remember when harden joined the clippers, they went on a losing streak, raptors lineups keep changing daily lately, of course they are out of sync! That’s basketball, you of all should no that.

  6. The reason why raptors suck is because scottie ain't that guy i don't get why people don't see that
    Scottie should have been left to develop like kawhi not like lebron
    Bad decision

  7. LOL….The Knicks announcer said that OG is the greatest Raptror of alltime and the Pacers announcer said that Siakam is the Raptors GOAT. The 76ers announcer said that Nick Nurse is the Raptors goat. Raptors fans now know that Matt Devlin is the best announcer in the NBA

  8. Let me be rude and say this. Raptor team looked mentally ill playing the Rockets. Honestly Bruce Brown doesn't want to play so why are we giving him time. He wants a trade so let's just make that happen for him

  9. Definitely concerned about what will happen with the culture for the team as we continue to lose hard. It’s tough to watch

  10. Front office been trash since 2020 no other way to say it, trash picks, trash trades , trash team construction … players accepting the tanking and not caring about winning, just collecting their money and having fun

  11. He said it to hype thier guy and be dramatic and he knows American nba Fans especially casuals don't know Jack about the Raptors and won't take 1 minute to fact check it.

  12. Jak is as on a minutes restriction. You could have put any Center out there and with the way the other guys were playing it wouldn’t make a difference. Schroeder, Trent, dick and brown were atrocious last night. Quickly was a ghost until the 4th.

  13. He isn't even greatest guard of all time. FVV had a magical 9 game run that everyone seems to think makes him amongst the best Raptors of all time. Nurse kept propping him up but at his ceiling is/was as a player is a good backup. As a starter teams will eat on him on offense.

  14. Alot of fans on raptors board was asking for cam when he fell…he fell even further and fans were asking to trade for a first so can draft him…i wanted him at our spot…in hindsight, lots of gm are sorry now

  15. Greater Raptors than FVV in no particular order:

    VC
    Bosh
    Siakam
    Lowry
    Demar

    Arguable lists starts with:
    Calderon
    MoPete
    TMac – obv way better career
    OG
    JV
    Alvin Williams
    Scottie – it's early but when all is said and done he wins
    Powell
    Bargnani

    Better overall but not all time Raps:
    Kawhi
    Gasol
    Ibaka
    Hakeem
    AD
    Jalen Rose

    So you can certainly say top 10, but no higher than 7th GROAT.

  16. "arguable the best raptor of all time"🤣, raptors media is too funny, how can anyone take our media seriously

  17. So to put it in perspective how far Fred is from being the best Raptor of all time, let me provide some examples.
    Greater than him: Lowry, DeRozan, Carter, Leonard, Siakam
    Better than him: Gay, Barnes, McGrady, Davis, Bosh
    Better in their primes: Olajuwon, Gasol, Schroeder, Ibaka, Camby
    The GOAT: McCaw
    Ignoring all of these folk, maybe VanVleet can be top 10

  18. The fact that this coach continues to give McDaniels minutes speaks volumes as to why the Raptors are plain TRASH this season.

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