Chicago Bulls Want Haul Back In Alex Caruso Trade

Chicago Bulls Want Haul Back In Alex Caruso Trade

You found yourself on another episode of Locked on bulls on today’s episode we’re going to talk about the reported deal that the Bulls would want back for Alice Cruz they want a OG and and noi type deal we’re Hey listen they said if you’re not gonna give him two first round picks you

Can give him two young players averaging almost 20 points per game they’re also going to talk about the four teams interested in trading for Andre Drummond and can the Bulls finally get a win at home we’re going to talk about all that and more right after this you are locked

On bulls your daily podcast on the Chicago Bulls part of the locked on podcast Network your team every Day thank you for tuning in to lock on bulls member of the locked on podcast Network where it’s your team every single day that’s Pat the designer host and creator of of the windy city Breeze and host of the Chicago Bears podcast over at ESPN 1000 I’m hay h creator of

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Bulls wanted two first round picks back for Alex kuso never find could they protect anything like that but then today we get uh more this one came from uh from W that the Bulls want an OG anobi type deal back for Alex crew so just to run this back so in that deal

The Toronto Raptor sent oan anobi Malachi Flynn and pre tuua to the Knicks in exchange for RJ Barrett Emanuel quickley and a 2024 second round draft pick so the Bulls basically said hey I I I if you guys want Alice kuso you have to let us fleece you that’s basically

What they’re saying see I don’t feel like it it’s saying let them flee you I do think it’s still right it’s more right because first round picks aren’t proven players versus young players that are proven players that maybe have a higher ceiling but when you talk about

RJ Brad and Emanuel quickle going over there yes you felt like that was a loss but it was a loss because you knew who the two pieces were in place already right you knew it was gonna be Julius Randle you knew it was going to be uh um

Jaylen Brunson Josh Hart adding some input on that as well and then okay now we’re going to get oan anobi and he’s going to be a piece that can help us but I I do think that there’s something to be said about getting back some young

Pieces when your team is already set say we trade uh uh uh Alex Caruso to the Lakers you already got Bri you already got Reeves you already got uh uh um Anthony Davis he ain’t been on the court so I ain’t thought about no yeah actually has this year but you already

Got those guys in place right can you give me some of the young guys that you feel are going to take this this step after LeBron’s gone right like so I think that you could almost work that out with certain teams if they feel like they’re in a championship window type of

Situation I just don’t like I think the two teams that were in that window where they felt like they need to go for it made the OG no be trade like Boston I don’t want nobody out Boston like that’s the other team that you would think well the thing is too is

That I mean okay you don’t feel like it is I’m sorry for listen OG and anobi is a piece right we know what he is I think he’s averaging over 20 points per game for that team and that’s not to say like Alex kuso defensively what he brings I get it but

To say that if you’re trying to get two young pieces because I get what you’re saying it’s not unproven though these are both guys even though RJ Barrett is only 23 years old this dude has been in the league for five years so you’re getting saying the picks are unproven

Like if you got two first round picks for them those are unproven players yeah yeah I mean but the thing that also comes with having the more proven players is the payroll and so that’s one thing that is kind of shocking with the Chicago Bulls so it’s like if you’re

Looking for that type of deal back you got to be willing to pay yeah and so I don’t know if that means is is this another we’ve already know that Jerry’s gotten involved in the Zack is Jerry involved in this because I I just listen I I just have to believe and take

This however you want to I just have to believe that a spunky white guy that’s putting a team on his back it’s got to be one of Jerry’s favorites I you saw Kirk you remember we built the team in literally in an offseason came back four

Times no but I’m saying in the offseason where we built probably the best team that we had the one thing that Jerry Ryan would ask about he’s like man I just wish we would found a way to keep Kirk D I just I feel I feel like he’s

Gotta want to keep Caruso around bro 30 years old n he’s got five years left in him keep keep going he’s not as old as me that’s what Jerry Ryan say he’s not as old as me we’re good we’re good but no I just I I I just like what teams are

You looking I guess maybe because I don’t think Houston’s gonna get a starback is Houston a team that you could look at right is that I don’t know if you want Jaylen green back in that but like is that maybe somehow that’s that’s uy I’m

Gonna say like my like my kids when they were young that’s uy well the the only reason I say that right is because yes there’s some upside with green you know he can be a scorer but are you going to be able to re him in here but he’s one

Of the most inefficient scorers in the league I know I know you he he can put up 18 points per game but those 25 shots it takes to get there is wild like but I’m just I’m just wondering like where are you looking to go get this type of

Deal like I said I think the two teams that made this type of deal are the two teams that you would have looked at to make this type of deal with Toronto OKC like Miami is Miami giving us something they’re not giving up haime Hawkin ha here’s what I’ll say though if they

Are willing to give up H hawass for proving commodity in is crew so I may have to listen to that deal bro I may H and Nicola yic yic ain’t done nothing in this league Down him right where he at he fine in Miami let him keep partying I just I I just wonder like who would be like I guess an OKC maybe OKC feels like they’re on the cusp of that maybe they want something off their bench and you can get some young assets and draft

Capital I’m I’m I’m just speculating on what teams could fit the mold of actually sending you an ogan noi type trade well that’s the thing too is how do we fit that because while I get it that that the uh the Knicks and and rappers are able to make this trade OG

And thei makes almost double the $9 million Alice kuso makes you’re were talking about getting two young uh pieces back that have already showed you something yeah just just including Javon Carter’s deal isn’t going to make those contracts work theoretically so we looking at a situation where maybe this

Is one of those deals that include Alonzo balls contract or something like that yeah Lonzo back walking put that video out right before the trade de not just walking he was practicing today he shot he was shooting basketball on the side yeah let’s not put that out there

Do got that’s how they reported it Lono walls up getting getting shots at practice and said come on now bro you know you knew exactly how y’all were working that come on hey they immediately put that video out and it was Lonzo standing still doing this bro

I was like oh he putting up the the free throws when you gotta line up that free throw uh I I don’t know like this is this is a situation where I don’t think that it’s impossible to do I just wonder like you said is the Lonzo ball contract

Something that gets included in that it and here’s the thing I think teams will be willing to ACS to that because of how little AC makes versus how much production he’s actually providing on the court I think that might be how you get a Lonzo ball deal done I’m just trying to

Utah Utah’s kind of like they kind of playing better basketball though like I I just again I would be interested to see who do you want from Utah that’s that fits that mode of young players like they got old players they can send over who’s the young who’s the young

Players you want off bring bring back bring back that fro boy bring back that uh never happen BR back to fro baby and and in instantly when he crosses when he crosses Illinois State Line he’s going right back he K trades him you know you know what’s crazy if we trade Alice kuso

To the Utah Jazz and get Chris Dunn and lar mark back that’s what I’m saying he said I can’t develop you here baby but I’mma get you back when you’re developed we can develop you but now that it’s happened go ahead and come on back home my boy would you his

I don’t want to take a chance on anybody either that’s the part that’s tough right because I think about a player like if you trade him to the Magic The Magic might feel like they’re a player like kuso away a strong vet that because

I mean like I don’t know the age on that team is basically like 11 to like 36 like it’s they got a little bit of everything on there point guards and centers that’s all they got but if you trade them down to a team like that do

You feel like okay taking a chance on a guy like any of the young guards that have it pant out there yeah I mean like or or Jonathan Isaac who has played more games than I think I’ve seen him play in his entire career this season but you know the injury history

That comes with Jonathan Isaac like the there’s did you really do that with with like even if you do have to move you’re moving Lonzo ball for TLO Lonzo ball as far as the knees I’m I’m I’m I’m just trying to figure out what team would work it’s

It’s not going thas me he’s played 32 games this season which he played more than what we’ve seen him play in almost his entire career he’s played 34 and 75 games but I mean listen I I don’t know bro like this is I have no idea bro this is one where the

Whole like like I guess if there’s some scenarios that you come up with you can send them to teams but I don’t like any of them and I and I feel like the teams that would be willing to maybe send you something and maybe acass a little bit

More they’re going to have to do so much to make the money work like unless unless you’re off four players I mean we just spent 10 minutes talking about it really what just boils down to this is that the Bulls have set the asking price so hard for Alice creu so they know

They’re not trading that’s kind of how I feel about it right like the price doesn’t go lower here like it’s like okay y’all want AC bet now we want the owner’s box like wait a minute like hold on your first born no I want your first

Born like the the Bulls keep going this direction when usually you go this direction yeah no no meanwhile for Zack LaVine they were down to Bine and the tow that they were trying to dip all right we’re next up we’re going to be talking about four teams that are

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Partner of the NFL all right Pat so so Drummond apparently is a hot commodity here in the trade block um well tra the trading deadline cuz the Bulls don’t necessarily have him on the Block so we got four teams that were rumored to be interested but then we also got

Casey Johnson added into this that he would not be surprised if Andre Drummond is moved by the trade deadline which is surprising you know you take that for what you will um but rumored the Lakers Celtics Suns and Mavericks All interested in Andre Drummond at the trade deadline how do you feel about

That P I think that this is more of a deal that makes sense to me because of what drum guarantees you with the second he walks on the Courtright especially as a backup center and I know it sounds crazy to say but I do this deal Andre

Drummond 29 years old you know for the most part what he’s going to give you I don’t think that you could put him back into a starting role um if if you can spot start him right but like to play him a ton is like all right we did with

Like four fouls every every other day in the first quarter and I think that you have a player on your team that you picked up in in uh um during draft time this year that is Young drum right now not to say he’s gonna be 20 and 20 guy

But what we want off of the bench for a backup center I think you can get Adam Sono and you just can’t bring him up right now literally because I think he does a lot of the same things drum does and there’s no way you can have two

Players like that on your roster at the same time I think this opens up a spot for the Bulls to go a little bit younger here for the Bulls to start to see what this young man has in the second half of the season and I think that it would be

A good move for them because Sago is a guy that gives you the rebounding ability the the uh defensive ability and a little bit of scoring ability off of the putback I never want to see that jump shot though please God never break that out it’s not even a bad jump shot

It’s just one of the slowest ones I’ve ever seen in my life it is very slow it is very slow I mean all these teams make sense for for for drum Mavericks we know they got Dereck Lively down there a young defensive big that they drafted has been playing really well but he’s

Injured and even heading to the playoffs they may want somebody who’s more of a veteran piece down there uh the the Celtics always can use a little bit more defense uh so that makes sense there the Lakers are always looking to trade for somebody so that doesn’t that doesn’t

Surprise anybody the Phoenix Suns in this one though how do you feel about the Suns the reason why I say that that is because considering the sun’s current you know salary cap situation how that projects to be going forward into that especially with this new punitive tax is there anybody on the

Sun’s roster that keep in mind with Drummond’s contract only being what three and a half million dollar y that would entice you that you would think or is more so draft assets you gotta be going draft assets for drum right like you got to be going like they know they’re they’re getting a

A late first round pick and maybe you can get con convince them to do that with some protections on it like I don’t know like I would I would think that you’re probably going draft ass sets over because I’m I’m trying to even think like what are we finally gon to

Take that shot at B bowl that everybody’s been waiting for like who’s the player that you would want to get back in that deal Eric Gordon aogi maybe like most now here’s the thing most of the roster is available to the outside of the main starters because of how much

All $2.1 million like like so Eric Gordon 3.1 aogi 2.8 Damen Lee 2.5 deop 2.3 uh Drew Eubanks 2.3 every uh you Watson ABI I don’t like that he would go for it 10 out of ten times but uh like that’s that’s one of the craziest statements

After getting eviscerated on a duck I’ve ever heard in my life that wasn’t tough that was that was noty it’s people out here making business decisions um I wouldn’t be mad at you you to had a a a little stretch early in the season that I thought was maybe there’s a

Little bit more uh game that you can get out of him but I mean I guess it’s comparable in the fact that they’re both I believe UT is 29 years old as well yeah so you’d basically be getting back but it’s the opposite like drum feels like he’s been around forever UD doesn’t

Feel like he’s been around that long it’s like how you guys the same age almost I think how long has he been in the league what four years five years like it hasn’t been that long so that doesn’t surprise me but I I would I’d be

I wouldn’t be mad at you to because I think you’re moving drum to make a move to bring somebody up that you’re trying to develop and you need shooting no matter all of these trades no matter what you need to get back shooting whoever you get whoever you bring

Whoever you trade away lonzo’s contract mid level I don’t care shooting you need shooters this Chicago and we ain’t got no shooters this is crazy just saying dog like don’t play into The Stereotype my brother um the Chicago shooters um James Washington’s name but no man all jokes aside like I

At the end of the day man uh if drum is moved I I love drum I would love for drum to sign to stay here but to your point like we do have ad damama sonogo in the wings and this may not even be one of those trades where you look at

What you can get back now like you said it could be opening up that spot yeah uh so on the last half of the Season maybe you do want to take a little bit of an extended look at ad dama against NBA uh teams it’s Billy Donovan so I don’t

Necessarily bet on that because it’s Billy Donovan he doesn’t really you never know with Billy um let me ask you this if you can get a young player back from the Lakers who seem to be in no man’s land and basically they they refused to play the guy Jaylen shino’s

Rookie deal it seems like they just want to move jayen Hood chafino to everything it’s like hey hey do you you want to jayen hood Shino with that because they because they’re in win now mode but I I I wouldn’t be mad at at taking a flyer

On a young guy who was just drafted this year if you can get Andre drumman for if you get Jaylen hood chaffino for Andre Drummond even though he he’s we’re it’s another guard at I I don’t think I can knock that bro because at that point he

Basically he was the seven 17th overall pick though if they are willing to give that I think you got to take it because then that’s that’s like you getting a first round pick for for Andre drum my guy listen they they could care less about Jaylen Hood chafino being a part

Of that Team bro you want to know how many minutes he’s played in the last 10 games 10 games with the tone that you taken I’m gonna say it’s less than 20 he’s played 15 minutes that’s crazy in 10 games that’s crazy they not wor about him he plays six in one

Game they’re not they’re not worried about jayen Chino and I think it’s I think it’s because of where the team is right they’re not putting him on the floor when they’re in a win now mode so maybe the Bulls can get him on the floor a

Little bit more he’s able to develop a little bit more and and you build something here with them 65 put you could put him next to Kobe and make a really nice back court yeah I mean the thing is too is that with IO with Zach

Now being gone permanently IO may be in that starting rotation for a while y maybe maybe you do look at Jaya Ah that’s still betting on Billy Donovan to play play a rookie he’s young too he’s only 20 years old he BR turn 21 into almost the start of the next season

That’s crazy I’m just I’m just thinking about maybe some future piece because I think the one thing that we all agree with is yes you have Kobe white in here but you do need some future pieces to go along with Kobe I hope I is I played

Well you need more than some but yeah I hope IO is I’s played well well you also got to play them too right like dalen Terry and and Julian Phillips maybe maybe play some of these young guys we’ll see uh hey before we get into this

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Pat can the Bulls get a win tonight man it’s a tall test the Minnesota timber is number one defense defensive team in the league they also hold their opponent to the lowest rebound uh average per game as well which is the way that the bulls usually are able to

Get in games is their rebounding ability this is a team that last year in the Minnesota tber W was made a trade for Rudy goar and we all looked at that trade and was like you just you you ruined your roster this is why you don’t

Give up on it after one year uh they’ve turned it completely around um they definitely look like a force I don’t know if I necessarily think that they can come out the West in the finals quite yet I guess maybe I just I got to see it a little little bit more but

They’ve been number one team in the league I mean in the Western Conference for for most of that time they’re now tied with the uh OKC Thunder for that number one spot how you feeling about the Minnesota timber game tonight well I say this man uh just like I’ve said the

Entire time when you let uh R go be take more than 10 shots he’s a pretty good freaking player uh 19 and 16 19 and seven 12 and 18 17 and6 22 and 16 I mean it helps a little bit I think I I in all honesty I think the t-wolves come into

This game having a legit number two um and that’s the one thing that they’ve missed y’all know my feelings about cat I I think he’s you don’t like cat this is this is he’s seven foot tall Zack LaVine so you don’t like cat is what you’re saying I’m

Not saying that I’m saying that he’s seven foot tall Z I don’t like I’m ask you the straightforward question I don’t like Carl Anthony towns okay that’s all you have not a fan of Carl Anthony towns and it’s not to say he’s a he’s not good

At the game of basketball but when you need him most he’s the avatar disappears you know what I mean so it’s just that’s that’s my thing with him and I think with goberry you’re going to have a legit second option here that’s what makes these guys so deadly and you

Don’t need him to be the best second option because you have arguably somebody who’s trending towards becoming the best player in the NBA once LeBron and these guys get up out of here and Anthony Edwards who Absol out of oh you you’re there already I’m ready to say if

When LeBron is is gone and KD is on his SL Anthony Edwards will be the best player in the NBA I’m not going to lie to you dog like it is it’s like and as soon as he I don’t know L still there like there’s some bro but

The thing is though who Luke is there and he’s a great offensive player but he ain’t guard he wouldn’t guard you on the court yeah that’s the thing that separates Anthony Edwards from a lot of his contemporaries don’t get me wrong there are some extremely talented players in

This league and I’m not trying to crap on any of them but Anthony Edwards while not a lock down Defender by any stretch of the imagination will play defense he will play defense and he takes pride in some of those Marquee matchups and in playing defense on some of the other the

Other guards and wings in this league so I hope he gets to a point where he wants to come to his dad’s favorite team man but I just we never that lucky bro we’re never that lucky I feel I feel like um the one thing about ant that I do love is that

Uh he believes he’s the best player in the NBA oh for sure you know when people always talk that like man I just you know I feel like I’m the best and then you look at them you be like bro you average like 18 points a game bro shut

Up ain’t no way you feel like you’re the best like yeah remember Jordan Crawford said he was he felt he was the best player oh wow that shot foul remember that but uh it’s it’s just ant really believe he the best player in the NBA and he’s

Willing to take your soul to get that name so I love what I’m seeing out of Anthony Edwards I feel like he’s really ascending to that level and I say all that to say I do not think that the Bulls end up getting a win tomorrow um I hope that Kobe white is

Able to go out there and absolutely prove me wrong and cook um but I I don’t see the Chicago Bulls coming away from tomorrow’s game or tonight’s game I should say with a win because I think that you’re facing that Anthony Edwards coming to are we in Minnesota are we

There we’re at home we’re at home we’re at home Anthony Edwards coming to Chicago right now feels like when Kobe Bryant used to come to Chicago like you just went into that game going man I hope he don’t get 60 like that’s how I feel right now

Watching this kid play he I love this kid’s game man Alex Caruso uh iuma probably going to draw a lot of that that those defensive assignments on uh on Anthony Edwards and hey prayers up to you guys tonight that’s all I can say Hey listen this is in the words of Matt

Barnes just make it as difficult as possible he’s going to get his just make it as difficult as possible that’s all you can do bro now what I will say is this if Alice Caruso shuts down Anthony Edwards we better be looking for more than an ogan anobi type deal now the

Price goes up yet again if in this game Alice Caruso two days before the trade deadline shuts down Anthony Edwards ak’s phones are going to be off the hook the price went up the price just went up now we now we want an OG and and noi package plus another first

Round pick well then we talking to Philly talk you know we talking to Philly bro Harris looking the hey man uh we we’re willing to give you these two players and you know what I’m about a first round pick how about two know what two won’t do it we’ll go

Throw in three be like throw in three I haven’t even answered the first one yet you know what you know what Philly is Philly is the chick that can’t figure out why you not texted back fast enough so like she just sent another message she sent and then by the End by the

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