Should the Detroit Pistons trade one of their young stars? | Defend The Take

Should the Detroit Pistons trade one of their young stars? | Defend The Take

The player that won’t be traded but probably should be traded Dave your 60 second starts now well again I gave my Klay Thompson and LeBron cases in in r one um I mean look the easy answer here and I think I’m going to steal Mike’s answer but the the easy answer here

Would be Zack LaVine um but for me it’s actually dejon Murray this dude every single time he posts on social media it’s like hey I’m available and ready to go please get me out out of here that it just seems like they don’t like each other down there it’s not going to work

And this guy I think could be a key contributor on a on a championship level team I mean he’s not going to be your best player on a championship team hopefully not even your third but man if he’s your fourth best guy or fifth best guy he would be amazing he fits the

Warriors extremely well and some of the stuff they need they could use a bigger guard a guy who could do what Klay Thompson used to do and go and guard a point of attack players when when he playing with Steph Curry so Steph doesn’t have to do all that stuff uh

He’s a great rebounder I mean again something else the warrior time time time good point Mike your 60 seconds begins now well I was going with Zack withan then Dave kind of took that off the board then I was actually G to go to Shante Murray then Dave took that off

The board so what am I going to do I’m gonna make a hard pivot guys let’s stop thinking about the middle of the NBA let’s stop thinking about the top of the NBA let’s start thinking about the bottom of the NBA I think the piston should trade Jaden Ivy how about that

Look they’re in a bad spot here he is their best chance to Pivot a little bit get another player with potential that you could put around Cade Cunningham make the fit a little bit better and acquire someone that Kade can grow old with it’s odd right now what’s going on

In Detroit aside from the roster fit like everything’s clearly not working just look at their record right and Monty Williams for one reason or another has just refused to play Jaden Ivy significant minutes for the majority of the season season has refused to put the

Ball in his hands so often and you got to change something up you can’t keep doing the same thing everyone’s keeps talking about trading Bo on bonovich I get why but like you actually want to avoid could note more could not disagree more on jadeen I why when you’re the

Detroit Pistons and you lack Talent especially youth talent look that is a talented player they need to keep him everybody else is on the roster could be available paid Jaden Ivy assar Thompson and that’s about it for me right you can’t trade those three guys trade Monty Williams before you trade

Jade iy Monty Williams is the problem there and J I don’t think you get out from J Cunningham would work well together I mean Kyrie Irving and Luca donic is that’s little bit of a comp and it’s a stretch but you can see we’re having a dynamic ball handling guard and

A bigger playmaking guard I mean that works and in the modern NBA I’ve never heard of team say we just got too many guys that can do stuff with the ball in their hands that’s never a bad problem the the problem in Detroit is coaching and lack of imagination it is not Jade

Iy I would oh my gosh I could I’ve this is the most passionate I’ve ever felt about anyone’s made up trade I’m not saying to Hayes get him out of here J I mean what K I would make J Jay iy the coach before I would trade him I’m not saying J Ivy

Is bad I’m not saying the Pistons are overrun with ball handlers and Playmakers I am saying they have a young interesting ball handler and playmaker that’s not doing anything for him and the coach is making 13 he’s he’s making 13 million doll a year Monty Williams ain’t going nowhere even if you wanted

Monty Williams to go somewhere you’re paying him $13 million a year that’s a lot of money that means he’s staying right you made the commitment to him so now you try to maximize your roster as is do you try to make a deal with San Antonio we get Devon vasel Jeremy soan

And some other guys that you can kind of fit around um uh Kade Cunningham to improve the total five do you try to look for another team that’s also on the asset that needs someone who’s a ball handler that can give you some of what

You need like try to make the pieces fit so you have a more cohesive roster around Kate cam because I think Kate is pretty good but Kate Cunningham also needs better shooting around them he needs better defense around them he needs better like everything around him

Right and so maybe jayen Ivy is your way to get that and to Arbitrage the build a little bit because there’s really nothing else you can trade I don’t think a first round pick this year even if it’s very high up is gonna be that interesting to teams based on what

Everyone’s saying about the 20204 draft so then what are you doing like how are you gonna get better um without giving away every one of your picks going forward I think Jay NY might be that guy might be the tool that you have to use to kind of improve the roster on the

Whole in instead of just focusing on one possibly possibly a top end guy seems to me like Kade Cunningham actually fits the description of what you’re think because Kate Cunningham would net you a hall of assets Jay NY well I mean then just give it up listen well this is but

This is what I’m saying so Jay nvy has not gotten a chance Jay nvy is g to be looked at as a second draft guy for for teams because his coach won’t play him it’s not because he’s not talented and by the way like Monty Williams like

Putting a team together for a coach doesn’t really make any sense how many points has Monty Williams scored this season for the Pistons right like coaches don’t actually win games right they manage and he has managed to engineer the worst losing streak in NBA history I don’t trust a single decision

That he has made he we just had the idea given to him by the front office that Jay iy should have the ball in his hands what are we doing he didn’t want the job they kept throwing money at him and until he took the job I wish I had the

Problems that Monty Williams has taking that job oh my God ah I would also mail it in and take the money this is not like this is not a Jaden Ivy problem and you’re not gonna get enough in a Jaden Ivy trade to reset the deck you’re just

Not so if you were gonna reset the deck the way to do it would be Kade Cunningham that could be a hersel walker like trade where you get four future first maybe four swaps I mean K Cunningham on on at this stage of his career that would be a franchise

Altering move and yes it it is a reset which you’re not going anywhere as it is so I would make the argument that Jay Navy sure maybe you move him but Kade Cunningham that’s the big piece of bait that could net you a huge load in the

Future and now I don’t know if I would do that that would take some real guts but I don’t know uh I think there might be new decision makers up there by so so just to be clear Dave you’re saying this year you would trade Cade before you

Trade jayen Ivy I’m saying if the idea is I can trade this young player create some clarity and get Assets in return then you might as well do Kade Cunningham and get a real return I mean a real return you could probably get a a

Very good young player or two and six to eight draft picks as far as picks and swaps if you were to make K Cunningham available I mean he’s he’s a high level player like this is a guy who was considered to be a number one franchise Cornerstone now I don’t I don’t think

He’s shown enough to to still have that moniker but this is like second best player on a title team maybe eventually and he would net a hall I don’t think Mike would argue with that I I just wanna I just wanna for the sake of argument and for the sake of winning

Points I want to summarize our two arguments uh I am saying the Pistons should trade jadeen Ivy in a way to get better Dave is saying the six- win Pistons should rebuild all right let’s just let’s just get out there by trading away their best player and their best

Prospect I mean sometimes there’s a line between crazy and genius and I think someone’s crossed it the argument was dejonte Murray needs to be moved which you agreed with and I forced you to Pivot into J NY and who you were incorrect about like let’s just let’s

Just what about de Jon Murray for Jaden ivy well now that’s interesting that is is it de jonte Murray taking you from a a nine- win team to a 12- win team yeah with the Pistons do that I don’t know they you know I you know I think it’s

Kind of interesting they need to get better immediately uh I understand you’re giving up the potential upside of of Jay Navy but dejon is still pretty young he’s on a great deal moving forward too um and you know I I think the Pistons just you know reading the te

Leads have some incentive to try to get better immediately I don’t know there’s crazyer things out there

Defend The Take discusses the future of the Detroit Pistons and if they should trade Cade Cunningham or Jaden Ivey.