Well that’s that then, insane overpay for a bench player
We_hitt_a_boat
LOL PASS
PJ and Josh are very close to the same level. I’ve been talking myself into the trade because PJ is at a position of need, we’d get to dump Holmes’ contract on them, and we’d keep our first. If they’re insistent on a first move on.
archerarcher0
That’s absolutely insane
Josh alone is probably worth more than PJ
lilsaucy32
No way we do the FRP. It will be a straight swap (with Holmes as filler) with a second from us by deadline time.
top_of_the_table
If they do that, they might as well close the franchise. Ridiculous overpay.
UnityPukeInMyMouth
Just call their bluff, to be honest I’m totally fine with not making any moves this deadline. If something great comes up, or course pull the trigger. This ain’t anywhere close to great for us.
They will probably end up trading him for much less than that.
TZBlueIce
That’s a pretty easy no….
Starting to look like no trade is in the cards this deadline.
marginallymediocre
Green AND a first. I don’t even love Green as much as most here but yeah fuuuuuck off LOL
LA4lyf
KEEP JOSH
V0823
Who the fuck do they think PJ is?
RGxiRapiidz
Mavs need to trade THJ for a future 1st (Magic have Denver 2025 1st which would be fair) use that an expiring salary to get PJ.
georgefrederich
fuck no! 🙂
amino110
Lmfao Mitch Kupshak is smoking crack if that’s what he’s asking for fucking PJ Washington. Let’s run it back then and wait for a real difference make in the summer.
Axisofcoolio
Hornets can kindly fuck off then
RhinoBugs
Josh Green you are NOT a hornets player. Seriously, don’t do this trade Nico
traw2222
Oh that’s hilarious
Moe4ver
Kick Rocks
Jrfrank
Hard pass.
Powerful-Pie-9540
Lmao that’s almost as ridiculous as the whole Hornets franchise history.
Jolly-Mortgage4
yeah its too much for him. That’s something that should be considered for players like Kuzma and Jerami Grant.
tomzi9999
Tell Nico I’ll drive him if needed.
needsumMoore777
Wow what a steal!! /s
PM_ME_UR_RESPECT
Lol.
No.
qotsabama
Lmao
KakashiDarui
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ooloy
Nope
jfrodriguez1983
![gif](giphy|21JMq0e5LSUJq|downsized)
butcher_of_blaviken1
I wouldn’t have done that a month ago but for sure not now that Josh is playing way better
spu-ngis
lol nah
kokolupa
Nah.
desirox
Fuck these greedy ass teams. I wouldn’t even do Josh for PJ straight up
perknowitzki47
hard pass
jdmay101
Just leave the team alone. Especially if it involves trading rotation guys for marginal upgrades. The team is not good enough that tweaks like this are suddenly going to vault them into contender status, just let it play out and hope Grant improves.
Mugsy_Skoogs
oh hell no
mollifierDE
Well, Josh Green is a very flawed player. He really doesn’t match his “raw, but very athletic and at least a good wing defender” label. Analytics say that he’s one of the worst defenders in the league.
On the other hand, the story is almost the same for PJ Washington. At least he has more size.
totaliron
I would not trade for PJ if it took Green OR the first let alone both. Nico has me worried because we should not be this deep into conversations with those asking prices. That probably means he would settle for trading Green for PJ if they didn’t ask for the first.
lsdc86
Luka is capable of turning PJ into a very good starter. Truth is this team is not good enough to compete with the top teams in the west. Mavs need to make a serious upgrade if they don’t want to waste another year of Kyrie and Lukas prime.
Dirks_Knee
Horrible deal that I hope the Mavs are smart enough to pass on.
That said, we are going to have to give quality assets to get quality assets…
dragonwhale
Nah. Not even 1 for 1. They can get a 1st and holmes. Or THJ straight up. If we trade potential great future for a PJ Washington then i would be 0 surprised cause it’s the Mavs but it’s gonna be yet another step backwards.
ImprovedCrib
Stupid ass hornets
ph4NC
P.J. Washington (Hornets): 25 year old, 6’7, 230lb, PER 36: 15.6/6.5/3 on 45/36/71, contract 17 mil in 2023-24, 15.5 in 2024-25 and 14 mil in 2025-26
Vlatko Čančar (Nuggets): 26 year old, 6’8, 240lb, PER 36: 12/5/3 on 48/36/85, contract 2.2 mil 2023-24 and 2.3 mil in 2024-25
Unfortunately Vlatko had an ACL tear last summer playing for Slovenia, but he’s recovering well. We could buy low and wouldn’t have to give up a lot to get him. These teams are out of their minds with their asking prices, so if nothing changes I wouldn’t make any moves this deadline.
VisionDFW
This scares me because Mavs are usually so bad at negotiating.
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Well that’s that then, insane overpay for a bench player
LOL PASS
PJ and Josh are very close to the same level. I’ve been talking myself into the trade because PJ is at a position of need, we’d get to dump Holmes’ contract on them, and we’d keep our first. If they’re insistent on a first move on.
That’s absolutely insane
Josh alone is probably worth more than PJ
No way we do the FRP. It will be a straight swap (with Holmes as filler) with a second from us by deadline time.
If they do that, they might as well close the franchise. Ridiculous overpay.
Just call their bluff, to be honest I’m totally fine with not making any moves this deadline. If something great comes up, or course pull the trigger. This ain’t anywhere close to great for us.
They will probably end up trading him for much less than that.
That’s a pretty easy no….
Starting to look like no trade is in the cards this deadline.
Green AND a first. I don’t even love Green as much as most here but yeah fuuuuuck off LOL
KEEP JOSH
Who the fuck do they think PJ is?
Mavs need to trade THJ for a future 1st (Magic have Denver 2025 1st which would be fair) use that an expiring salary to get PJ.
fuck no! 🙂
Lmfao Mitch Kupshak is smoking crack if that’s what he’s asking for fucking PJ Washington. Let’s run it back then and wait for a real difference make in the summer.
Hornets can kindly fuck off then
Josh Green you are NOT a hornets player. Seriously, don’t do this trade Nico
Oh that’s hilarious
Kick Rocks
Hard pass.
Lmao that’s almost as ridiculous as the whole Hornets franchise history.
yeah its too much for him. That’s something that should be considered for players like Kuzma and Jerami Grant.
Tell Nico I’ll drive him if needed.
Wow what a steal!! /s
Lol.
No.
Lmao
![gif](giphy|d27IAKEWUKv2a7MSCY)
Nope
![gif](giphy|21JMq0e5LSUJq|downsized)
I wouldn’t have done that a month ago but for sure not now that Josh is playing way better
lol nah
Nah.
Fuck these greedy ass teams. I wouldn’t even do Josh for PJ straight up
hard pass
Just leave the team alone. Especially if it involves trading rotation guys for marginal upgrades. The team is not good enough that tweaks like this are suddenly going to vault them into contender status, just let it play out and hope Grant improves.
oh hell no
Well, Josh Green is a very flawed player. He really doesn’t match his “raw, but very athletic and at least a good wing defender” label. Analytics say that he’s one of the worst defenders in the league.
On the other hand, the story is almost the same for PJ Washington. At least he has more size.
I would not trade for PJ if it took Green OR the first let alone both. Nico has me worried because we should not be this deep into conversations with those asking prices. That probably means he would settle for trading Green for PJ if they didn’t ask for the first.
Luka is capable of turning PJ into a very good starter. Truth is this team is not good enough to compete with the top teams in the west. Mavs need to make a serious upgrade if they don’t want to waste another year of Kyrie and Lukas prime.
Horrible deal that I hope the Mavs are smart enough to pass on.
That said, we are going to have to give quality assets to get quality assets…
Nah. Not even 1 for 1. They can get a 1st and holmes. Or THJ straight up. If we trade potential great future for a PJ Washington then i would be 0 surprised cause it’s the Mavs but it’s gonna be yet another step backwards.
Stupid ass hornets
P.J. Washington (Hornets):
25 year old, 6’7, 230lb, PER 36: 15.6/6.5/3 on 45/36/71, contract 17 mil in 2023-24, 15.5 in 2024-25 and 14 mil in 2025-26
Vlatko Čančar (Nuggets):
26 year old, 6’8, 240lb, PER 36: 12/5/3 on 48/36/85, contract 2.2 mil 2023-24 and 2.3 mil in 2024-25
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44RA6ClrQlY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44RA6ClrQlY)
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Unfortunately Vlatko had an ACL tear last summer playing for Slovenia, but he’s recovering well. We could buy low and wouldn’t have to give up a lot to get him. These teams are out of their minds with their asking prices, so if nothing changes I wouldn’t make any moves this deadline.
This scares me because Mavs are usually so bad at negotiating.
For Kuzma maybe but for PJ …nahhh