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The Detroit Pistons are better without Cade Cunningham



“The Detroit Pistons are better without Cade Cunningham”

Now for some of you I might be your only source of Detroit Pistons basketball and because you’re not really interested in this team you’re just know all of my content and have been watching all of my videos and I appreciate that but there’s a weird discourse that’s happening in

Detroit Piston’s Twitter and Reddit and and it’s like half of a joke but then some people are like taking it seriously and so the Pistons at the time I’m making this video are 4 and six when K hunting him does not play keep in mind

We only have seven wins on the season a lot of people and a lot of like other NBA fan bases are trolling and being like yeah Kate’s the problem and then they send like the worst trade request they could possibly send because they want to take advantage cuz they know

That Kate is like actually a good player and stuff like that but there are some people out there that actually believe that narrative and I feel like we’re being absolutely disingenuous with what Kade and the Detroit Pistons have had to deal with there are so many other fact

Factors into why the Detroit Pistons were bad and Cade’s injury also meets that timeline in terms of when the Detroit Pistons were actually improving so it’s like the weird coincidence but also you can follow the breadcrumbs and follow the trail as to why this Detroit Pistons team is better is improving with

Or without Cade if you’re new here welcome in and if you know me welcome back feel free to like comment and subscribe on other video ideas and topics that you want me to talk about whether it’s basketball whether it’s flash games whether it’s music who knows

Uh I could talk about a lot of things and thank you I appreciate it and all this helps the algorithm and it’s free wasn’t that easy back to the video now the first part of the Season Monty Williams was not really playing Jaden I yep Killian

Hayes has started 30 plus games for this Detroit Pistons team and that’s that’s not Killian and Jaden Ivy starting all the time it’s more Killian Hayes and K Cunningham for a decision that was puzzling to everybody that had watched the Detroit Pistons last year and a lot

Of the Pistons fan base that has been fed up with kilan Hayes getting opportunity after opportunity after opportunity and just he is inevitable inevitably he’s going to just be there klian Hayes is just there even though he w two of the first three games of the

Season you could still see some of the cracks in this Detroit Pistons team being like if you play Kade and Killian together and AAR this offense is just going to be absolutely putrid instead of uh subbing out killan Hayes for jayen Ivy Monty Williams basically does everything else but that for a clean

Like 15 games and I know that the Pistons had other injuries we had durren injured we had bogdanovich injured we’ve had had Stewart injured at points it seems like again what I’ve said if you guys have been watching my videos that every good thing that Monty Williams has

Been able to uh glean from this season has been most of the time an accident the fact that it took Monty Williams half a season and an intervention from the organization to play Jay ivy on the ball more just shows this first half of the season is has nothing to do with

Kate Cunningham at all like you can blame okay all you want but that’s when when you have a coach that has to have an intervention to play its second best guard that’s a problem in and of itself and the Detroit Pistons have had so many different starting lineups there has

Been no sense of stability because of injuries and because of Monty Williams just tinkering between rotations um signing Kevin Knox and Kevin Knox started before jayen Navy this year by the way and Kevin Knox didn’t start the season on the team there had been so much of that and

That’s not on Cade in terms of just like Kade had to play a rotation that had James wisman and Killian Hayes in it and Troy Weaver and Monty Williams had to make Marvin Bagley and James wisman try to work together not together together but like they were competing but neither

Of them were great fits for the bench unit which already had an absolute lack of shooting so they make a trade it just showed that even players at the level of muscala and galinari even their level of spacing the floor was a significant upgrade over Isaiah

Livers Isaiah livers for a clean month a month plus Isaiah livers and Alec Burks did not look like NBA players anymore Isaiah liver still doesn’t look like an NBA player but at the time Burks was being historically bad like not historic well well it was really bad so K

Cunningham having to share a rotation with Isaiah livers Alec Burks through all of this K Cunningham had to endure that and now we traded for muscala and Danilo galinari and been interesting because those games have been the games Co that have lined up with K Cunningham’s recent injury which sucks

Because now you know how much K Cunningham benefits from these floor spacers in terms of Mike muscala and then we just traded today like recently for fonio which means that when k Kim gets to full strength he’s going to have so many more opportunities to work in

Spacing and not have to pass to Alec Burks and Isaiah livers a bad Alec Burks and Isaiah livers I’m doing this on the day of the trade deadline which probably isn’t ideal but like if Al bur gets traded fine if bonovich gets traded fine the fact is is that Monty Williams also

Can’t seem to figure out a way to make Jay Navy and K gunningham play to their absolute strengths like absolute 100% strengths which is weird because every time K Cunningham goes out jayen Ivy proves that he can like handle the ball against the Kings he had 37 s and six

Right but magically whenever K Cunningham goes back in Jade NY gets relegated to like either the corner or not being like not being as on Ball and it’s not like Kade has to play this heliocentric role with this offense Kade and Jen ivy can both play on Ball and

Off ball it’s not like Killian Hayes who really doesn’t really provide anything off the ball Jay naivy and K Cunningham get to their spots downhill off screens and I know that they’re not like the movement Shooters yet but still them being off of ball they can work off of

Each other but it it doesn’t seem like Monty Williams is able to like let his stuff go and be like hey you guys can play well off of each other and and honestly I think that Kade and Jade iy are pretty interchangeable in terms of I think that they could be like a

Lightning and thunder you know like Jade n is one of the fastest players in the league a lot of people have seen like Russell Westbrook vibes from him whereas Kate isn’t as like explosive offens like explosive athletically he’s so crafty and he’s so good in the half court and I

Can see these two working well for years and years I can’t believe I cannot believe that we were we are a weak removed from Jaden Ivy being in like Zack LaVine trade talks man oh my God the Pistons traded Jaden Ivy away I would have been insufferable I would

Have traveled to Detroit honestly I would have been outside the ARA Arena protesting honestly cuz that’s the thing is that I don’t think Monty Williams has put these PE players in the best position to succeed and I knew that if we were trading one of like these players with high potential that it

Would have really come back to fite us killing Hayes can go but like oh my God seeing jadeen Ivy play without Cade and then play with Cade the difference is not as night and day anymore but for the first half of the Season it was and I’m pretty sure that once Kate Cunningham

Comes back and is healthy that this the Pistons are better without Kate Cunningham narrative is just going to go away because I we’ve had to endure some really really dumb narratives over the course of this losing streak over the course of whatever but K gunningham is not the problem with this isra team

Maybe it’s how K Cunningham is used other defenses can just focus on K cun him instead of like spreading the wealth around like I think we should we should probably have a more spread the wealth offense having an offense of just K cutting him do everything is just not

Going to cut it he’s not a Luca he’s not a Trey right now could he be eventually yeah but the thing is is that he doesn’t need to be and that’s a good thing having a couple of offensive stars that can shoulder the burden is a good thing

In my opinion it keeps defenses honest it makes the defense is worried about more players than just one honestly and relegating Jay and iy to like a corner standstill Corner person while Kade does pick and roll if you do that for too many possessions you’re not getting the most at Jade iy’s unreal

Athleticism and finishing at The Rim there’s so much potential in the top players for the Detroit Pistons team I just really want to see them used right in the future we’ve gone through some Absolut low points as Detroit Pistons fan base this season and I think that

The last thing we need to do is pit our young core against each other because we’ve seen the highs of Kade and Ivy playing together we’ve seen the highs of Kade Ivy and Duran playing together we’ve seen flashes of Brilliance from assar on the defensive end and even some

Of the offensive end I just don’t think that being like Oh yeah we play better without this person at all seeing the talent that they have I think is really silly I hope that after the trade deadline this Pistons team will like sew some type of like cohesion and I don’t

Trust Monty Williams at all I hope that this team could develop and get better in spite of Monty Williams right now and that’s the end of the video feel free to like comment and subscribe and everything you do helps the algorithm and it’s free I appreciate you guys and

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32 Comments

  1. I am for sure attributing these recent wins to the fact that we replaced Isiah livers (a non functional player) with Gallo and Muscala (two functional role players) more than anything with Cade. The offense does seem to flow better without Cade but that 100% comes down to a coaching fault than anything on Cades end.

  2. I gotta apologize to you Kofie. This is all my fault. I predicted that the Pistons were gonna have a breakout year before the season started based on nothing but vibes and their failures are a curse due to my hubris.

  3. No the pistons are better when we have ball movement, not funneling the ball in to cade. When we realize we have people who can score other than cade we will be better. Cade for sure will be way better with not all the load

  4. ausar’s minutes have also been heavily fluctuating right? no way that helps build any hope of him carving out a role with cade

  5. You come to me, [slandering Cade Cunningham]? On this? The day of my [Killian Hayes is Waved]?

  6. “If bogdonavic gets traded, fine. If Alec Burks gets traded, fine.” As both get traded in between recording and uploading this video

  7. When Cade and Bojan are the primary ball handlers they take all the pressure and the defense and because they take all of that it’s harder to open up the offense equally. When Jalen is the primary his main objective is to find the best shot available either himself or the open man and because Jalen isn’t a known offensive threat he doesn’t attract as much defense and when he does he already has the mindset to pass to the open man. That’s why the team plays different without Cade it’s because they have to because there’s no guarantee on offense so it’s whoever whenever.

  8. Hey random question I saw a Straw Hats Flag in an older Secret Base video, do you ever talk anime?

  9. The thing I’m most interested in and dying to know how the Pistons got in as dire and and demotivating a position as they’re in. Maybe it’s obvious to actual NBA fans, and I’m not sure if this channel is suited for that kind of "history of" longer-form video, but it remains the thing I’m most curious to hear about especially from this channel.

  10. You arent addressing any of the substantive points about the Cade issue. Its not just this year its last year too, they had more wins last year with an inarguably less talented roster. Also just watching the games the ball movement is significantly better in the games without him. In the two games against the Wizards (arguably the second worst team) they won by double digits when he didnt play, and lost by double digits when he did. And that wasnt because other key players on either team were hurt, its because the offense is just better, and we now have 2 years of evidence that this is the case.

    I do agree that he is totally miscast in a heliocentric role. Either he or the org wants him to play like Luka when hes not even half that good.

    The reality is that given the current roster Jaden Ivy is significantly better suited as the lead ball handler. Hes much better at applying rim pressure which in turn actually results in better looks for the team even though Cades vision is significantly better.

  11. Yeah this happened with ja a couple years ago and look how that turned out… 0% chance the pistons would be better without cade.

  12. I can decide if Monty Williams or Troy Weaver is more to blame. I was leaning Monty but idk after this trade deadline

  13. I had no idea I wanted to hear you talk about flash games until you mentioned it, but now I need a Kofie Bloons or Swords and Sandals retrospective

  14. I hate the arguement that were better without him but can we make an argument that the team is better with Ivey more on ball? We honestly have barely seen the 2 together.

  15. Atleast your franchise is "trying to make moves" mine (Chicago Bulls) hasn't made a trade in 2 years. We were about to trade you Zach Lavine but Zach opted for mid season surgery to tank it 😭😭😭

  16. I don’t think I’ve ever watched a pistons game in my life but I’ll watch all your videos about them 😂 got me feeling like a lifetime fan

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