How worried are you about the Denver Nuggets following back to back blowout losses?
Well oh yeah I get a shorter show tonight we go short that’s going to be our first break right now first now on the other side what’s up everybody Welcome to the losers loung man you guys don’t even have the energy for a sad trombone um nuggets fall 112 to 95
Actually 11295 doesn’t sound that bad it sounds actually closer than what that i’ watch that game I’d watch that like hey it got out of hand or something there um this one was a butt whipping from start to finish there was a short period of time when yic came back short period of
Time but that evaporated and the Nuggets fall two games in a row blowout losses we’re going to talk about this one but we’re really going to talk about now that there is this trend should we be concerned to help me with all of that brenon vote man what a killer night in
The bar tonight oh my God unbelievable Vibe and you know the best part is the way the Nuggets just carried it through the whole way you know they didn’t show up tonight the bar crowd the bar crowd or the Nuggets or the Nuggets uh we’re
Here though we are here we have to be over here I got dine guys that was awesome what a day dude what are some days you’re just like I can’t believe I get to watch the nuggets and then the nuggets are like all you know I got you
You know and then it they give to me I give to them and then uh I don’t know what you guys are all upset about that was awesome I oh I forgot to mention I became a bucks fan earlier today oh did you man that’s an awesome game such a
Great game that was a really good one congrats man uh and then on the end Superstar D I just couldn’t uh I couldn’t imagine being Mund I did not see that coming the Bucks playing defense against the Nuggets they could Nei apparently no one seen that coming
This was not a good game it it just wasn’t two in a row though two in a row and you’re right Eric like this is the thing that I don’t know that all that even the players really truly remember when yoke said like he saw the video of
Everybody and he’s like wow I you you see how much it means to people it really is Monday after the Super Bowl everybody’s a little like the Monday after a big weekend is always a little tougher a little more of a SLO everybody goes through their 8 Hour grind of work
Maybe more and you’re like but at least when I get home I’ll kick my feet up and I’ll watch my favorite team play and then this happens someone should someone should say yoke a tape of fan reactions after they lose by 30 just so you know
Man it matters to us in February just send him the chat we should just send him the chat from before the show was really got to do that just like send a trans just email the email the transcript do they like we’re like yic they’re attacking
Me we didn’t do anything yic the only guy who showed up tonight wasn’t me man he also probably the only guy that doesn’t have an email address yeah also a good point um you guys want to fast breakdown Jesus can you make it it’s going to be really fast
Let us go through that game one more time 13-2 start for Milwaukee you guys remember this this is the thing about this game it sucked from the very beginning the very beginning 13 to2 but Yan gets two fouls then the Nuggets storm back and then Damen Lillard picks
Up two fouls I’m like we’re winning boys let’s go start the party it is time to go joic was taking over and then right at the end of the quarter they blow it for some reason they take a lead and then they blow it and they go down 28-23
All right bench stin let’s see how they do Murray had awful turnovers nuggets immediately fall down 12 then my note says 22 to three Bucks Run Casey P went out of the game did not return Murray Porter Gordon kcp combined IND you guys in the first half for seven
Points so dis in a half of basketball the starters not named jic combined for seven points they shot two of 18 from the field and the Nuggets were down 60 to 44 but in the third quarter it got way worse worse immediately it was went from like all right down 16 it’s
Probably over but you should still watch to see what happens to like 3 minutes in you were like they don’t have it tonight and they get steamrolled all right Dev that was the recap we don’t have to go through all the other little bit actually I will have one other note Brax
Key and Colin gpie the two two-way players not contract guys played the garbage time minutes in the fourth played all played all the garbage time Hunter Tyson jayen picket the two fully rostered guys did not play all right Dev what do you got this game made no sense it really made no sense
And really Denver did not play well but also the bugs really did bring it they played harder they um Giannis did everything in that game he was hitting jump shots like there was nothing that Denver could have done it would have been great for them to show up anybody
But yish to show up um but that was a game that they really just got dominated from start to finish and you don’t want to see those type of um efforts but they kind of are to be expected they were down pretty much two starters um in this
Game Jamal went down um no one else you know accompanied uh joic in this game and those are the type of performances you’re going to get when people don’t step up so you just want other people to step up with yic yeah to say nobody stepped up is like a total
Understatement man this was an all time not stepping up performance from every literally every player not named Yol what’s your big takeaway uh it’s disheartening a game like this is very disheartening they uh you know um that maybe the humanid elements of like why they didn’t show up tonight uh Murray is
Injured um other guys coming off of injury kcp mpj it’s just I I you know nights like tonight it’s just you just have to crumple it up and throw it in the garbage can except for that we you got to live through it I mean it is it’s
The funny thing about you know everybody has a bad day at work but um you know like I feel like if I knew that the the just like thousands and thousands of people millions of people literally are their day were affected by my work performance like I feel I mean I feel
Like I would design harder you know what I mean like I it it’s like you just feel like at a certain point nights like tonight they’re just they don’t care and they just kind of lose sight of what this is right you hate I hate nights
Like this I hate them there two in a row um they’re doing the thing that bad teams do which is like they drop games going into the All-Star break yeah um I hate it like they’ve had two opportunities to seize first place in the west and they’ve dropped them both
Spectacularly uh not even competed so you know it it I don’t think that this in fact I know this doesn’t reflect on their outome or just their outlook for the season as a whole but it just stuff like this sucks it just it’s it’s gross
And I don’t I hate it yeah I mean strong agree on everything yeah I wish they would play with more Pride right now that’s my big takeaways Pride’s the word and one too many blowouts for me and I don’t know like you were just getting at
Dine I don’t know if that’s an indicator that they will or won’t win a title you know what it tells you cast against the background of everything else we know about this team but I do know it’s a real bummer to watch it and and it’s and
It’s not and it might tell you something about the team too um but I just a little more Pride that’s what’s lacking for me right now is pride and they just seem to be a little too okay with the Knights where it’s like yeah we just
Don’t have it um I know that they still have their on Knights I still think they’re in the Inner Circle of contenders none of my big picture stuff has changed too much I just wish they’d show a little pride and this is two games in a row where they really brought
Little to none to the table uh and we know they can uh and so I I I wonder if that’s part of Malone’s message to them as they approach the All-Star break like this is we owe it to each other to play better than this this is not who the
Denver Nuggets are or not who they should be at least uh I love the point about Pride because I do think there’s something to it and this is one of the things we love about niik leic the guy just seems to always bring that Pride to it the consistency
We talk about the routine he goes through tries to do things always the same so that he can be consistent and he is honor and duty honor and Duty 29 12 and8 from him tonight like those are numbers that are pretty comparable to what you would expect for a big matchup
The fact that he was alone in it to the degree that he was tonight is just I I agree with you that there’s like a pride a maturity um you know those things that are just kind of lacking from the Nuggets here and let’s be honest man
They’re kind of breaking down as they head to the allstar break kyp now with an injury Jamal Murray M come soon enough um like these guys are banged up but I mean so is everybody else you know like all these guys are going through something you know in the NBA and it it
Is a bummer that the nuggets on a night like tonight would would just have a performance like this and I got to be honest I’m not even joking about this I’m being genuine it really looked like they had a great Super Bowl party last night totally totally you what I mean like
When when was the other game was it New Year’s the the January 1 game when they played and they were terrible were like must have been a great New Year’s Eve or New Year’s party cuz they all look completely disinterested and gassed and just don’t have it and tonight was the
Same thing like right 13 to2 start you were watching him you’re just like what is this like what is this effort man it must have been one hell of a Super Bowl party cuz that’s that I don’t know if that was it but it sure felt like
It yeah uh where’s mpj from Missouri yeah Kansas City Missouri is oh wow little titin foil hat uh he played [ __ ] terrible well he was pretty bad so he probably too actually about didn’t stand out to me stand out um yeah man and I’m not going to lie
Like we talk joked earlier about being a little hung over ourselves today like it’s an American holiday the Super Bowl I’m not even hung over from booze I’m just like hung over I’m tired yeah I my tummy feels icky yeah I got a tum tum sitch over going going on over here tum
Sitch uh but I feel like I could have done what mpj did you seven points Dev from The Supporting Cast in the first half man I mean honestly I almost worry about yic some nights like nights like this because that’s got to be I mean look
He’s our honorable yoke but he’s got to be sitting there going like serious fellas like why did I play today yeah that really is what it’s like it’s like he’s on an island and he’s having to try to will them back into the game and a
Lot of knights put him on their back where he has to carry the load and some nights you’re not going to be able to just because it’s too like the Bucks are a good team they’re a contending team um and they really wanted it in this game
But that does have to be discouraging to like go out there and give your all and no one else is come you know coming along with you or they’re not playing defense and those are like things that you can do like if your shots not falling that’s one thing but if you have
Bad energy if you uh don’t look like you’re wanting it if you’re not competing those are things that you cannot explain uh and it kind of looked like they did just give up like they did go to a party and they’re like hey we don’t have it so you you have it tonight
Um so yeah that’s discouraging um from the team and also it just it makes you just wonder how frustrated yoke is at times because this takes you back to the old days when he had to do all of it and they’re not healthy but this is this was
Their starting lineup tonight right you wanted them play harder and Jamal Murray look he left the game but he did play 18 minutes before that and had three points three points and then you roll out that same lineup the Reggie Murray lineup that’s where the really lost control of
The rope and in that stretch it was just turnovers you know turnovers bad shots like not running offense get wasting the clock and then handing the grenade to somebody it was like horribly run and look if he was hurt and gritted through it you know I you appreciate that but at
The same time man three points in 18 minutes from your second best player it’s crazy like I met mpj had a rough night tonight too kcp obviously goes down like nobody played well but I just look at Murray and I go we joke about this roller coaster with Marie and it’s
Just it’s exhausting it is exhausting I I would feel differently if he didn’t go out for injury I mean you know so maybe he just injured the whole time he you know it sounds like he his tibia was his the muscle on the front of his leg was
Bothering him you know he didn’t have lift on his shots you can kind of I mean but he you know he just looked Gass the whole time he looked like the anytime Murray has a bad game he looks tired from the jump and he looked tired from
The jump legs legs man and then kcp like it he was clear tonight we’re kind of like oh man hamstring injury he clearly was not ready to play that’s my second big takeaway that’s my second big takeway the night I cannot believe kcp played in this game Who cleared him he
Looked he looked clearly unready to go and and then he pulls up a little lame like early in the game and you’re like okay he’s not finishing this game and with the All-Star break so close and a hamstring like a hamstring issue what did he look amazing at in shoot around
Like what happened so obviously it’s easy from here like people whatever they they they tried he probably thought he was good to go but with with 2020 hindsight very clearly he was not ready to go and I wish he had rested tonight yeah that one’s very confusing because I
Mean who do you you blame in this type of situation the medical team who cleared him or him that says I’m ready to go because I mean Denver has shown with Jamal he took way more time than he was supposed to in his injury cuz he’s
Like I don’t feel like myself like if they want to take the time they can I’m sure that he wanted to compete but there was nothing to prove in this one um Denver’s you know in a good spot out west they didn’t not need him in that
Game so you just really pushed it for no reason um and then just to go back to another Point what this team is missing or like what you really think about is like Jeff Green in this type of situation like a vocal leader that’s going to call guys out um after a couple
Of bad games in a row I wonder if they have something like a conversation after tonight they play horribly two straight games does somebody call a meeting does someone talk about you know you guys are not giving effort we’re not playing hard um we’re just kind of giving up do does
Denver have that right now maybe I I mean it’s probably like DeAndre Jordan that would be the guess which is not a great like State of Affairs um this is where you want your two best players to be not only the leaders on the court but the leaders off the court
Uh we don’t we don’t know the Dynamics I don’t know it just doesn’t feel like that right now like the Nuggets just feel like kind of lost at this exact moment it it’s this is a lot of like in the moment stuff I mean obviously like obviously like they were they’re half a
Game at of first place as tonight started um it feels like at this exact moment like they’re just spiraling and like there’s no hope in sight but if you recall that was the whole second half of the season last year since um Eric since we’re not going to do a call-in from the
Arena just a particularly relevant quote uh from Matt Brooks from Michael Malone quote me as a head coach I got to make sure I’m not overreacting and panicking while also finding that delicate balance of holding them accountable and just letting them know how we’re playing right now these last two games it’s not
Good enough just as you were speaking I was wondering if that’s really Malone’s role on this team more than anyone but I don’t think it can be over after a while yeah like they have to every team is different the Dynamics are different everything it just I I
Feel like a coach yelling at you to give more effort is different from a guy who’s literally in the Foxhole with you saying like we have to do this we need to charge forward like the coach can take you so far but at certain point
Like the player have to step up and be like what are we doing man this is embarrassing yeah I agree with that man this was embarrassing all right let’s flush it I do want to talk about on the other side want to talk about though two
Games is it a concern is there Trends here that you see that are like broader or bigger or is it just a two game anomaly as they get closer and closer to the allstar break we’ll debate that topic and stay tuned Eric is going to
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You feel like we should be I’m going to give you guys some responses from my mentions from when I tweeted out the show with that headline um not worried this comes from Jeremy Jrock not worried more worried about getting Casp and Jamal healthy buckets since 88 says not
Worried the players are ready for the All-Star break they can lock in after um I have one here that says from John Kramer says regular season you clown so I will say that the consensus from the crowd seems to be not worried dumb question you know who is the most
Maligned group that doesn’t deserve it in this era of social media the clown used to be like you were there to entertain children and now it just means you have a bad Sports take true or you just have a a sports take that they don’t like that they just
Disagree with yeah the poor CL I feel terrible for clown man he gets no respect Dev I mean let’s take this question sincerely even if the answer is no are there things that you’re looking at that you’re at least just taking note of of like hey man I don’t like this I
Mean yes yes and no I think it goes both ways I do think that it’s the regular season it’s under rooll it’s against a really good team um like you’re going to have some let down spots even last game was a second night of backtack against
Like the fastest Pace you know team in the NBA so like you have some excuses built in um but the issue is you have some excuses built in um you just want them to be a bit more hungry you want them to get back to those days of um
Wanting to prove themselves you’re the defending Champion so like so every night you should be trying to defend yourself and and prove that you are the best team in the League or um you know teams are not going to be able to beat you or you’re not going to go on these
Streaks of bad games in a row so I think that that’s the biggest thing for me is um not that the hunger is lost but it it just doesn’t seem to be the same um you’re not in a spot of proven and I think that Denver should be yeah uh
Here’s the thing is that the Denver Nuggets have a perfect ecosystem that is their starting lineup and without those five players intact they’re in big trouble and that’s true of every every team that has a strength that is riing upon certain players if they lose you
Know if you lose like Jamal was not Jamal tonight and last game they didn’t have mpj they didn’t have kcp didn’t have kcp really tonight didn’t I mean they just didn’t H they’re not they’re injured like they’re not to their level of uh capability at this exact moment it
[ __ ] sucks it’s terrible to watch it feels like an excuse but it’s the truth like they’re diminished and so they suck that’s just kind of how it goes like the Denver Nuggets are as good as that starting five is and if there is if that
Armor has a dent in it um I won’t use the C uh [ __ ] armor I wish I didn’t have to say it um uh then there’s a problem sounds like it’s s the just the right word the correct thing correct word just makes me sound like the monster that I
Am um but that’s a problem like if they’re not good then they suck that’s just their bench is not good enough to hold up and fill in for the starting unit if the Denver Nuggets enter into the playoffs with this level of Health for their starting unit they will get bounced immediately
Yeah they need to get healthy the lucky thing for them is that the All-Star break is here none of them are good enough to be Allstars so so we have that working for us hell yeah com upet for right now that’s actually a great Point uh one of
My bigger concerns right now that I still feel good about but I just want to see it you know what I mean I want to see it is just the elite three-point shooting from mpj and kcp because I do still believe the Nuggets halfcourt offense with their starting five is
Elite or can be or should be in transition they’ve been bad this year the bench has been horrendous so on the whole offensively they’ve been underwhelming as a team the starting five has been pretty pretty good one of the reasons you feel great about the starting five is cuz they have two of
The best floor spacers out there and it has felt like it’s been a minute since between the two of them it was like okay this is two lights out if they’re in the corner and they’re open it’s going in I think it we’ll see it again I think
They’ll hit enough of the big shots when it matters but we haven’t seen a ton of it lately and I think that would be one of those things that helps us feel like oh that’s the Nuggets dominating that’s the Nuggets making it look easy and there are there are easy points being
Left on the board right now um from two shooters that I think can can confidently and capably hit those shots yeah I think I probably fall closest to what dline said in that the Nuggets you’re right about the perfect ecosystem and they are unlike most teams they are
The most dependent on their guy so you take one piece out not every team is like oh you’re down one starter are you completely doomed Denver still isn’t especially if they have Murray and yish but if Murray is down or not playing well then of course it changes things
Quite a bit but I do think that the Nuggets don’t have great depth this year and when you take away a starter or two not only do you not have your starting lineup that fits so perfectly but then all a sudden your bench lineups everything kind of gets rotated in
You’re playing guys like Justin holiday Colin Gillespie played who wasn’t just playing garbage time minutes and he actually played in the third quarter when they were still trying to come back oh that was garbage time well I mean it was gar time but I mean they hadn’t
Thrown in the towel they still had starters on the court um and so I do think there is something to their lack of depth is sort of is catching up to them y you know a little bit and I’ll say this you look at the minute totals
For some of the starters over the last handful of games they have pressed they have gone to the 35 38 40 minutes in games that they’ve wanted to make a statement you know they’ve wanted to like hey let’s go out there and grab this one we’re going to play AG at
Center this or that and I do think that that lack of depth is starting to catch up to him so that would be one of my concerns is the Nuggets do find themselves in a playoff hunt right now where it’s very possible that they finish the four seed and only have one
Homecourt round you know advantage in in one round and so they kind of need to press but at the same time does that mean they’re going to end up having a lot of games with 36 37 38 minutes from their key guys I I’m a little worried
That that is going to become a real Balancing Act for Malone in the final 30 games of the year yeah it’s tough but they’re I mean listen there’s so much time left and they’re right there and this they just need a break they just need break yeah I mean that I mean
That’s a positive thing like like d just said they’re right there and there’s a lot of time left and also when you look at that schedule after the All-Star break they have like the easiest schedule in basketball so it’s really just about staying healthy um picking up
Those wins um and just getting some type of consistency um that’s what you want to you know see um the bench unit that’s the a huge concern like that’s something to be worried about it’s been that all year um but you just want them to find some type of consistency because they do
Lack the depth so just having something to rely on and I feel like they have not had that and that’s like their you know the the issue um with this team so they have to find something there yeah um the any other concerns here I mean I like
Your point about Michael Porter shooting I would like to see him kind of Shake It Off too to be honest maning him off right now just cuz he’s been hurt and he has other responsibilities too right he’s like chasing D screens and Mike’s not doing
That but my point is that it is the two of them right like last year those two guys in the corners forget about it and this year in the corner there’s a chance they’re missing that shot and again this is like a smaller I think that this will
Stabilize but I do think it’s part of what makes it feel like the Nuggets haven’t been at like touching their ceiling lately is I just think there are easy points that last year they they gobbled up that they’re leaving out there right now well I’ll tell you those
Guys to me like shooter shoot they’re still shooting well and right you know whatever I’ll tell you the one though that I actually this is a real concern it’s not from this game or even the last two it’s a concern from this entire year and that’s Aaron Gordon’s confidence on
His shot he is not making him and he is passing up and like tonight was a night where you get to have Giannis on him play the low man and just kind of muck things up and there were multiple times especially early in the game where he
Catches the ball out the perim and he’s like yeah I’m not shooting this cuz I you know and I do worry about that because I thought that one of the humps that they got over as a team last year was Aaron Gordon’s willingness and ability to make those I’m a little
Concerned cuz again there’s time I I’m he could have gone on a hot streak in January and then lost it in February March but I do hope that after the All-Star break we see a consistent not him taking a ton of Threes but just the confidence and the ability to beat that
Defense yeah I mean it was this game was he knocked down down too so like it it didn’t punish them in that way it did it does stand out just because um they lost and they was down by so much but Giannis really did say we’re going to just pack
The pain if you make it you make it and I think a lot of teams are going to look at that and they’re going to try that at times so he is going to have to shoot him even if he’s not making them just to like put pressure um on the opposing
Team um you want that confidence to be back and also maybe get a mid-range so like take a step in and knock that down um cuz you are going to have to be a weapon offensively you are going to have to be a weapon spacing the floor um and
This was a game that you you saw them elect to go with that option you’re going to see it a lot more yeah dine we might not be totally concerned about the Nuggets just yet be concerned about yourself uh in what way having to watch the
Nuggets uh uh yes I mean honestly they play Sacramento on Wednesday now right they bounce back and have another game like are you now officially dreading that game or are you like excited for that game it’s at home after last game I did not think about the Denver Nuggets
Until today and I was like okay you know like I was like man that game was awful you I’m going to take a little like mental Solace here give myself a little time away from the Denver Nuggets come back and then they delivered this hay maker which was this was even worse than
The last one because they did not have all the same built-in excuses um yeah I don’t I’m like not looking forward to the next game I’m like not at all looking forward to the next game this is what I was getting at I was like it’s a
Genuine question yeah dude I’m I’m now officially I have senioritis dude I’m looking forward to Allstar break Eric has felt all year just felt like Eric shows up he’s in a good mood but if you just nudge him a little too far to the right you know what I like a you know
What actually I am that you’re right I just want you to be happy man does it help that they’re going to be on the second night of a back toback this time they play the Suns tomorrow which is going to be a pretty good game and Hey
Listen man everyday’s new day um like Brandon says it’s little precarious we don’t know where the mood’s going to go um you know I hope it goes I hope it works out for me I hope to I really do all right let’s take a break on the
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There’s a the rainbow quality where actually matches up quite nicely with the Denver Nuggets if you think about it looks more nepr top uh the back is like pretty well supported they feel pretty cushy I mean you guys are the hoopers I don’t know this this feels like the traction it
Feels like pretty good I good traction huh well I don’t know I mean like this is like an actual Hooper shoe man look at this thing I know it’s beautiful it actually really is a cool looking shoe cool Sho those are nice I like it a lot
What’s it say on the front here morph morph it for the podcast listeners Adam’s looking at it now I mean I think they could gather that 361° on the front triangle is that an octagon we got a line and a circle what is it a hexagon
Hexagon there we go and a CLE the yeah yeah this looks like it was for the PlayStation but it is triangle octagon Line Circle yeah anyway unbelievable what say on the bottom uh it says solar plate okay the 361 solar play this is incredible I literally can’t believe
That this happened CJ Jones I don’t deserve it but if not me then who you know what I mean that’s so true so true dude what man these are what do you think of everybody joining 361 so now you have Aaron Gordon yic and casy P and
Eric and and dine I’m offici yeah dud unofficially sponsored by no I’m official that I just I’m off yeah um just tag him in it listen I mean if uh you won’t find love stat side you got to go uh abroad I I I know this more than
Anybody that’s er’s approach and the found a trick the the you know if the if the Chinese uh shoemakers want to show love to the Denver Nuggets I’m happy to show love right back and listen 361 uh the ATA graphic wide open wide open and we’re for sale we are
For sale man I actually I do think it’s kind of cool though like we laugh all the time about the Nuggets you know they can’t get respect all like even shoe deals early on you couldn’t get this sh do you remember the start of this year Murray became the face of New Balance
Yes Kawai was got pushed to the back sh that pretty quickly that was one chance to be like all right Murray’s taking over and he was like no no no man I want to be like kawhai I’m going back to the back of the line but I do think it’s kind of cool
That right 361 a company I’d never heard of until a year ago now sponsors the Nugget feels fitting it does feel fitting because again like the nuggets are uh just forever overlooked uh some would tell you that the nuggets and their fans don’t [ __ ] matter uh nobody but 361 understands that that’s
Not the case I get that they do matter yeah I think that’s right you guys know how bad it got tonight uh Podium game for K Gillespie I actually I got to be honest someone’s got to step up and talk come on I do like the idea that all the
Nuggets were like no not me you guys call call as a the all the nuggets are cowards nuggets are cowards well I do want to make this note though garbage game Garbage time Braxton key steps on the court plays his minutes you know we got Zeke Naji minutes of
Course but you get Braxton King you get Kong gie those guys are not on the team they’re on the two-way you know they’re not on the playoff roster they’re not part of the long-term plan it’s almost impossible for Denver really to be taking them on next year so I do I just
Have noted that a few times throughout the year because I think it’s noteworthy that you would guess Malone is going to the guys who have multi-year contracts with the Nuggets to try to get the minutes and that was not the case tonight do you guys find that as strange
As I do I do especially with uh with Hunter Tyson and um pick it jayen pick it just doesn’t it not that it doesn’t make sense because I do think that they’re trying to do a solid of these guys putting them on the roster um throughout the season um but these are
Like supposed to be your you know guys of the Future these are two people that you drafted and you put on the active roster so um in nights like this like why are they not on the court um instead of your two-way options your two-way guys um and then they’re playing actual
Minutes um so I I I think it would have been okay pick it played a couple minutes it would have been okay if Hunter Tyson gets a couple minutes but they went with the two options on the two ways and that that’s awkward to me yeah yeah I don’t know that probably
Like speaks to some uh some Dynamics some locker room Dynamics like maybe uh I don’t know I mean to me it’s like in one on one hand like this doesn’t doesn’t matter at all but on the other hand it’s like that is weird it’s just weird that those are the guys that you
Are invested in you know financially right right so um you know that seems to maybe say that perhaps the front office has more faith in the these players than maybe Michael Malone does which is not uncommon you know I think that’s one maybe the most common area of organizational disalignment yeah is it
Disalignment sure um is is the young guys right particularly in this casee Calvin just drafted these guys loves them gave him a contract right away as you guys just said and not uncommon for the coach to have different idea of like who plays when who the end of the bench
Guys are you know I could see him just loving Braxton key just a guy who plays relentlessly hard at all times but to be honest it’s a good note I didn’t think about it till you mentioned it but those guys were there in available probably probably passes through your mind if
You’re jayen picket I think it probably does or Tyson you’re kind of like really the the two-way guys over here are are getting it they’re not even on the roster um any final thoughts or notes from this one guys do you want to move on to in ATA there’s some really
Interesting atas tonight let’s ATA up should we take our final break that way we can go long in the final segment let’s do that let’s take our final break we can go long in the final one to go ATA and get our top five were we doing a top five today I
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Colorado podcast the Colorado show you guys ever go to Pony National grassland you ever been there sure you guys a lot of birds there that’s why I bring it up lar bunting’s Galore yeah how many birds do you think you’ve seen different kinds oh yeah we talked about this how many
Yeah butam didn’t chime in yeah how many birds do you think you’re up too so last year Adams kept count yeah last year I saw over I saw 113 different types of birds which is kind of low for a burer like a bder will see you know several hundred yeah you
Know in one year if you’re going for a big year people will see six 700 Birds it’s a lot of birds there’s there’s a fellow who allegedly has photographed his 10,000th different bird izy he had a little chamain like type of photo 10,000 I hypoth I believe myself believe
I’m in the thousands of bird seed well you’ve seen that like that’s no you mean different types not the same type of I know I’m not saying I didn’t come on I just I’ve seen I think I’ve seen a thousand different types of birds you think so you’re saying like not identify
But if you just look out you see a whole I haven’t counted one bird you haven’t counted any but I’m certain I’ve seen over a thousand bir this is honestly probably true I thought I this all the time where people this is why I like birding that’s why I got into it it’s
Because you realize how many different birds are around you that you didn’t never notice before and then you start to notice little things like here you want to know a cool one so these birds actually I can’t get it I can’t do lose everybody around the associ you almost
Got me you almost got me we’re going around the association I’ll say about 20 different bird up to 20 Birds well I was just saying if you go to the zoo once you you get like 150 bird bump no you probably get about 10 Birds usually for you can’t
Count those ones but you are right that technically in a cage what about the Museum of Nature those count too have you ever seen a tiger like in the wild no no we’ve seen one well I mean yes well there we go come on I can’t argue with that logic
What is happening here what is happening take us back to basketball we are going around the association we start let’s go with a Philadelphia win 123 to 121 they get the win over the that’s actually a big win man the cows have been like winning the best team in basketball
They’ve been winning lately um and as we all know the Sixers are playing without their best player um so like they sna that at skid um in this game we saw Kelly UB finished with 24 points him and Buddy Hill who just now got picked up um
By the Sixers had a big game Tyrese Maxi had 22 points he went 9 to 21 from the field but I mean they had a lot of guys getting to double uh double digits Donovan Mitchell finishes with 36 points took him 20 shots nine of 20 shooting
But he still got it done oh Darius Garland minus8 though the narrative is back already he only had 20 uh I mean he had 21 points 9 of 16 um from the field but yeah it that’s a good win for Philly man they needed that yeah good for them
That’s it that’s a good win for them man they were really yeah in a shocking win the Hornets beat the Pacers one 11 to 10 theying too the Hornets I did not see that one coming miles Bridges had 20 points 10 rebounds he’s been playing good basketball as of
Late seven assist you just forget that he’s a good basketball player um Grant Williams who just got picked up um 21 points what now switching over to the tatums got kicked off the team he’s now scoring the basketball playing well I never knew that Grant Williams was alleged was allegedly super annoying he
Looks super you never watched a basketball all I just like behind the scen know I think that’s a big thing did you guys hear what he said though uh after he said it was great to be playing uh with this team said a few more things and then he said everybody touch the
Ball today that I mean that has to be frustrating to play around like on that team really but that’s what I would do too immed yeah you I love he’s it’s the Charlotte Hornets he’s like you know what it is nice this real basketball over here yeah Tyrese halberton he he’s
Came back from his injury this is like the most minutes he’s played in the game 34 points but he’s just not himself he had 13 points 12 assists um and you’re just kind of expecting those like huge games from him where he’s just like scoring um he was just on fire to start
The year out but he just he’s not the same ever since the injury um Pacers are like going in opposite directions that was a shocking loss for me yeah the Spurs get a win 122 to 99 a blowout over the Toronto Raptors wimi that guy is
Good look at this line man Wy had 27 points 14 rebounds that’s it right no there’s more he had a triple double his triple double was with 10 blocks good Lord had they all on gr dick in that one possession or probably but this just doesn’t happen
Especially for a rookie 10 blocks is incredible and then to have it as a triple double that when do you know when the last time that happened with it blocks we have to look it up probably will Chamberlain it no it was probably like I think Clint capella had one um
And then like Whiteside is like the only names that come to mind with like the triple doubles with 10 blocks but like that just doesn’t happen and I know for sure it doesn’t happen with rookies but he he’s special um Vel had 25 points to accompany him
Everybody of course was in um the positives in this game W’s getting no one did good on the the Raptors Grady dick who we just alluded to he was the only one that played well 18 points um in the game Kelly oen had uh 17 points
But a blowout this was a blowout in every way okay I don’t care about the Raptors the Bulls win 136 to 126 over the Atlanta Hawks that’s a good win for the Demar de rozan had 29 Points dumo had 29 Points this was a game that Caruso did not play
In um so you thought that the defense would not be there I mean it really wasn’t but at least they got the job done um V had at 24 points 11 rebounds um they just had everybody chip in um in this game on the other side of things
Trey young only had 19 points three see the report that Trey they every all the executives around the league think Trey Young’s getting traded this summer you see that really yeah that’s the latest report everybody is saying that they expect the Hawks are choosing dejon
Murray and get a shop try he must be an noink off the court like cuz that’s insane you just yeah it’s not a basketball decision I think I think it is a basketball decision I think there’s a like a a real ceiling on a Trey young
Team man I think it’s this is why the rumor is that he might go to San Antonio which would be perfect because you kind of need like a super defensive player to make up for Trey Young might be able to convince San Antonio to give you like a
A Godly chest of assets to overpay for the right Point like if San Antonio gets Trey young try and Victor you you can start talking yourself into team building I’m I’m interested in that team I mean it’s not that’s very weird but I’m yeah it is the shortest the big be
Hilarious that is that is fun they’re immediately going to do that man Bull and Mugsy bogs oh you’re it be it would be cool but are you saying that you don’t think that a a small player can get it done are you pulling a Becky are you saying this into into a microphone
You guys are unbeliev you guys know I’m a he highest man by the way the last triple double with blocks was Clint capella in 2021 yep damn yeah but other than that it it really doesn’t happen a lot does happen too often um bonovich
Had 28 points um in this one 11 of 16 from the field so you have Trey young taking all the shots three of 14 bogdanovich had 11 of 16 he needs to get 25 shots in a game like this one person doesn’t have it um I mean spread the wealth spread the
Wealth the Pelicans win 96 87 over the SC Grizzlies super low score oh what an ugly game uh only one person in this game scored over 20 points jiren Jackson Jor with 2 22 wow he’s been scoring he’s been scoring lately um no one else is scoring y I’m
Like really thrown off by this Pelican team cuz they they have some nights that they look in in they’re just blowing teams out and they’re scoring a lot and then they have these type of stiners um Zion went four of 13 from the field brenon Ingram who is like a score goes 7
To 14 from the field CJ McCullum 4-5 like they just have these type of nights they’re the most Two-Face team in the NBA very two-c the Houston Rockets win 105 103 this was a crazy finish did you see how this ended it was pathetic this is when
You could really be mad at the referees they won at the free throw line on a just a random call from Brunson he did not foul on he actually got kicked so it should have went the other way they won the game on that play that’s tough 105
103 allegedly not that it probably would have worked anyway but tibs didn’t get his timeout acknowledged when they rebounded the with point three seconds left so just a full on uh not great yeah I know he was pissed yeah there’s one coach I know is going to be pissed out
Loud oh it’s him he wasn’t happy Jaylen Brunson had 27 points um I mean Dylan Brooks had 23 points that’s a shocker uh Jabar Smith had points man that sucks when you get Dylan Brooks you know when he goes six of seven from three you’re like are you
Kidding me that’s a bad that’s a bad one yeah that’s he’s one of the most annoying guys to be hot against your team who’s the worst player to get that he beats you like that to get Dylan Brooks against if I honestly Dylan Brooks is up there because he talks so
Much trash pat Beverly is a little bit of this too absolutely uh you know it’s always those when Draymond gets you off oh Draymond it’s Draymond Draymond will always have a play this why I respect it he always have a playoff game where he’s like three or four and you’re just like
Are you kidding me man and then he tells you about it though you get to hear it by the way did you guys see over the weekend him and nerk going at it and nerk doing the to small and then Draymond doing the too small and then by
The way playing nurkic off the court in the fourth quarter nkit actually is too small that was that was crazy after the game them trash talking through the media each other Dallas Mavericks uh win do they yeah they come all the way back against the Wizards oh how did the Daniel
Gafford do 112 to 104 they came back Daniel gafford’s not on that team anymore right no he’s on the other te on the other team he’s on the Mavs that’s right that’s right that’s true and take a look I’m asking this viciously because I know 16 points 17 rebounds against his
Old Team bro I’m telling you this is the this is the key the trade deadline you always always trade with the crappy organizations and the crappy teams cuz those dudes are always way better than you think they’re just on some crummy team so you bring in Daniel Gafford is
He a great player no but seven offensive rebounds just to be really annoying only starter in the negative still it’s abuseful what about BJ Washington how’ he do today did he even play yeah he was a plus so I’m just saying man they plundered the crappy organizations in the Eastern Conference
And it’s like oh yeah this guy actually might be a useful piece yeah tricked him Kyrie Irvin had 26 points Luca has a triple double triple double of 26 points 15 assists 11 rebounds he was a plus 19 so he kind of willed him back into this
One that that Mavericks team is pretty dangerous I’ll tell you what I did today I put a bet on Luca donic to win the MVP they just got to climb in the standings Man by the way straw pole I think comes out sometime soon yeah I’m just saying
Like I I think that they are going to climb the standings all right I left him off my B I’m going to go ahead and I’m to spoil that because I do respect the idea that like there’s too many teams that are higher in the standings I I do
Think you have to have a little bit of that I I know I I just let’s see i’ I’ve I’ve hit the I’ve got the MVP BET right three years in a row um I mean in the last game that just finished up the Warriors win 129 to 107
Over the jazzz that’s a good win man in Utah that’s a really good win I’m telling you guys the Mavs and the Warriors are good again will they be good forever who knows they also are very it’s like but it’s like saying like the Nuggets suck they suck right now but
I’m saying the best the warri is best and the Mavs is best is actually really good and if they are somehow able to find consistency or just be that once the playoffs begin they’re not like a typical that’s an 11 seed AG this is the best 11 seed I’ve ever seen H probably
The they’re just too old they’re too old I know they have young pieces they’re building around they just 31 assists again I’m telling you they get it every time guess who was the leading scorer in this game Klay Thompson Clay Thompson they got a Klay Thompson 11 of 19 11 of
19 26 um points for him Steph has seven of 16 from the three three-point line not bad he 2 16 threes and you feel good about it yeah and it’s like awesome and you’re still making them yeah that’s insane um but yeah like this Warriors team like if you
Just look at all the guys that scored in double digits in this one it’s like eight guys that that show well here’s another thing that happened in this game that’s the 10 vers 11 seed that’s a double win cuz you beat the Utah who was right behind you in the
Standings and listen to this fellas three games up now on Utah in the Lost column the Warriors now three games up that’s very comfortable you know cushion right there that’s a big deal uh all right we have a bunch of super chats let’s start knocking them off CJ
Jones that’s right zero concern for CJ Denver is only half came back from their record last season 37 to 17 chill out everyone were fine hope you enjoy enjoy the shoes dine I did I did enjoy the shoes I enjoy your friendship in your Council even more teeman how many stinkers before
People realize the nuggets are the third to Fourth best team in the west sad reality but it’s true I don’t know if so that was very different from the last one this is why it’s it’s so funny you asked the headline like should you be concerned and you’ll get two people on
Both sides of it both saying you’re an idiot if you think otherwise one of those per people think the other person is a clown yeah clown which again respectable profession come on man Ste machine Super Chat thank you $2.79 very specific Goron mil salich sorry brother that’s tough milavich
Milovich shooting is a big problem missing so many shots is killing us it’s not great to miss them well we our Shooters are hurt man mpj hurt Murray hurt Casey P hurt Aaron Gordon Aaron Gordon not a shooter yeah yoke was draining some threes tonight naen Marcus
Do you think mpj is regressing he’s not progressing he’s had a worse year than last year I the thing with mpj to me I feel like this was like three weeks ago he started being more aggressive you know I felt like he was almost too passive for much of the year he’s been
More aggressive that has coincided with his also Port play so maybe there’s something to do that I don’t know but we’ll see 55555 is I did something productive today unlike the Nuggets boom roast I filed my taxes I will share some of my return with you sickos every Super
Chatter is good every Super chatter is good every Super chatter I wish i’ filed my taxt today I spoke too soon Cedric Exquisite BB next one fellas Zeke sucked oh well p b Zeke he wasn’t good but it is funny that like even in this game it’s like f that
Guy dude Zeke has those two rebounds there like no hope layup attempts like poor guy man I feel bad for miniapolis Keys vladislav No kcp Jamal vers the Kings we had better C effort and if we don’t it’s going to be another loser it’s gonna suck or else
Cedric Exquisite again now that football is over it’s our backtack year love you Eric thank you Cedric you’re my main man machine take two mpj one game in his last 10 shooting 50% or better not going to cut it yeah it’s true man he’s just
Been not is that right one in the last 10 that he not been good cuz he always knocks it down all right well we got you Ste gotch you man everybody’s got to get listen Ste is not wrong Steve do you think pwat will look to put on some serious muscle
To try to guard the likes of Giannis or stay small to guard in space cop bullied tonight he’s just going to get bigger naturally he looks like Giannis did when he first came into the league Giannis was so much smaller I mean he’s not going to turn into Giannis but he’ll get
Like just bigger I’m very curious to see what he becomes physically you’re right he does not he’s been in the NBA for one year and he still looks you know pretty pretty slender he’s super young he only played one year of basketball everybody remembers that play with Giannis tonight
That’s that’s what makes you think that I mean he’s doing that to a lot of guys too jiannis was unreal he was stupid good bubbles buzzer beater I blame Jordan McCrae for this loss shake my head Jordan McCrae you hadn’t had that falling out with Coach
Malone I mean look maybe he could have helped Off the Bench tonight Who’s the say Josh Barnett from down this game was the bin chicken of games you know what that is dude I hate bin chicken yeah from from Australia you know what they are though no uh Bin chicken let me
Guess no it’s an Ibis an Ibis is a b chicken an Ibis they have been relegated because their natural habitat has been populated by human beings and now what was once a beautiful bird uh white feathers uh very popular in Egyptians uh right that’s right you’ll see uh I think
Hoth or one of the uh the the uh Egyptian gods with the the Ibis head anyway now they eat out of garbage cans and it’s like a vulture all of their feathers fall out so they look disgusting they have these like black heads now they call them bin chickens
Insult to injury um that is tough I love when you guys teach me things like this like I’m running really pain that was biology I’m just sitting here like okay all right all right I know but now we can start calling guys bin chickens you know yeah dude bin chicken yeah dude
Blow it out your bung holeck chick benmac stean stean Adam what is the name of that book you liked about the Wolves oh yeah and that game sucked the rise of wolf 21 or is that or the rain of wolf 21 the rain there’s a whole series though a whole
Series you can also get the alpha female very good S2 s Williams second good to see all damn nug see at the Takeover hell yeah so good to see S2 S3 S3 was killing it on the uh the Ring The Ring game we had R hours of fun yall know
When our next uh takeover is March it’s already sold out already sold out already I’m telling you man these get bigger and bigger that’s it that’s it hit that outro music fellas we survived backto back lost should deserve a sticker not me you got a pair of shoes
Man I died long ago even these but except for I mean come on Whose Spirits could not be lifted by such a gift this is uh honestly the coolest thing that’s ever happened to me I think the nuggets are done getting blown out I hope you’re right I’m calling it Wednesday they win
Oh after after Wednesday I’m going to say that they’re they’re done getting blown out you think they got one more one more they’re going to be probably without Jamal probably be without casy P after that one all right well hopefully we brought you guys a little bit of Joy
I don’t know at least we got to watch Eric get a gift yeah was one good thing dude what a great night what a great night it was thanks everybody for hanging out with us we’re going to be back tomorrow with an off day show hit that like button we’ll see you There [Applause] cting like the Mayor
For the second straight game the Denver Nuggets got their doors blown off. Nikola Jokic was his usual brilliant self, but despite the starters coming back together the rest of the Nuggets were no shows tonight against the Milwaukee Bucks. What do we make of the Nuggets mini skid here? And are we concerned? Does the team just need the All-Star break? Adam Mares, Brendan Vogt, Duvalier Johnson , and D-Line Co. come to you LIVE from the DNVR Bar to break down everything you need to know in this edition of the DNVR nuggets Podcast!
Start – 0:00
Fast breakdown – 3:20
Dev’s big takeaway – 4:50
D-Line’s big takeaway – 5:45
Vogt’s big takeaway – 7:00
What’s going on with the Nuggets? – 10:00
How concerned are you? – 19:00
D-Line opens a gift! – 31:50
Everyone is joining 361 – 34:40
The garbage time players – 36:30
Some bird talk – 40:30
ATA – 42:30
Superchats – 55:00
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30 Comments
Jokic needs help!!!!!!!! Wake up!!!!!!!!
I would love to see a player of a caliber of PG13, Booker, KD, Kawhi, Tatum, Bron (all nba, all star) play alongside Jokic or more importantly, be independent of him. It is painful how bad these guys look without out him.
Mpj and Murray are not max players, they role players, jokic is a magician cause he won a chip with these Bums.
damn super bowl
That was disgusting.
I wonder if Nikola is wondering now how would it be to play for the Knicks…there is also a Yonkers Raceway in NY.
Jamal 3 point..and don't give me that shit super bowl. He is a bum..we need a all star in team.Im discussed by effort everyone not name Jokic. Kings? Bucks? Kalvin better be ready for next season. At this pase we not going back2back.
Going the way of the AVS
MPJ and Nnaji hopefully will be traded in the offseason, pretty please 🙏🏼
U boys must love this when Jokić brings it! But u don't love when Denver wins and jokic is average… Cool. Take that L
Those Jokic shoes are actually pretty cool
Jok, if you're reading this, please know that I still admire your game and you are definitely one of the best out there. But please… Be better. Tone down the complaining to the refs. Stop selling calls to get a foul. Remember who you were when you first started. Be humble. Take better care of your body, you look so slow and sluggish out there. You rarely sprint nowadays. Most importantly, be a leader. You said that winning is a lifestyle and an obsession. Then, show it. Communicate more. Encourage your teammates. Create plays for them like you used to in the playoffs last year. I know there's a lot happening in your personal life. We respect that. But please, still give it your best.
Cheers from a solid fan.
I understand why Jokic craves Serbia whole season, how can you be the best player on the team and at the same time put in the most effort? these bums Jokic got payed, took the money and think they can show up when they want…arrogant loosers
Malik Beasly is one of the host i dont know until now
Jok carry the whole team, Jamal and Mpj both of two are always inconsistency.
Terminate Calvin Booth Michael Malone he didnt do anything to improve their bench they got blown out two games in a row without Jokic it was worse never got help from his supporting cast or bench other teams got better Denver done nothing
I feel Denver dont have any replacement players. Sure Reggie, Watshon has his night or two or Braun or what ever. But unlike most teams out there they have literally nobody to carry the torch if even one of starting 5 goes down.
The past 2 years Murray playing with the bench doesn't work he's not the guy who can lift any one he's avarage with out jokic at best.
I need to detach myself from regular season Nuggets, too worrisome, I can’t let them ruin my days like that 😅
This is exactly the time of year a slump happens. Shit, maybe i just got too much negativity in my life already, but i cant bring myself to shit all over these guys.
It's also just logically ridiculous. 7 points from 4 starters? Thats called in anomaly, we dont base our judgement of data in any field of science based on and incredibly rare occurrence. I dont like that we didnt pick anyone up at the deadline, but i cant lose faith in the team for being 2 games off the top spot in the west.
Come on ppl stop crying they had similar situations last year and still won it all cause being clutch only comes in a situation with real pressure and the Nuggets dont push themselves to their absolute limits during the season (and I honestly dont like it too sometimes) but pls just stop complaining like they were the Lakers 😂😂😂
One bright side of all this is that Murray won't make All-NBA team. Imagine if Nuggets had to give him supermax. That would make it so they are completely unable to make a team that could compete for a title. Even like this with Murray and MPJ regular max contracts it's hard to find enough support because those guys aren't that top top tier, they are really good, but Murray is not top 25 player in NBA and MPJ is around 40+ if we were serious. Like who is better player MPJ or KAT and we clown KAT all the time, but if we are being honest deep down most of us think KAT is a better player.
Murray is playing 70% of this season like a little b*tch. Get tf outa here. What is Jusin Holliday doing in the game Malone? WHAT?!
Reggie is trash now. Gordon makes the most horrible and stupid decisions I have ever seen. When he has the ball and has to make a read or any type of play I know 80% of the time that ball is lost.
Y'all are so annoying in the comments and always overreacting over every regular season loss 🤦🏽♀️ and talk down on every player not name Jokic that also helped Jokic and this franchise win it's first championship ring, so relax! Nugget fans are really starting to be annoying like laker and warrior fans
There not playing with the the same energy
Also Malone with the 3 guard bench line up is destroying this team. Reggie/Murray/CB lineup is retarded
Send wonder boy from Kansas back to Kansas… and you guys keep defending him night after night. He’s a college player… not an NBA player… flat footed in the paint.
Murray is so inconsistent its hard to imagine that he could just magically turn it on in the playoffs, which most likely he cant
chet had that sombor double with 9 blocks against denver earlier this season. was low key rooting for another block.
Prefer to see women gamecock team or a CAITLAN Clark than to see Michael porter jr anytime not worth thirty five millions for sure