Can Cade Cunningham & Jaden Ivey PLAY TOGETHER? Detroit Pistons
We saw Jaden Ivy go absolutely dummy career high last night with 37 we’ve seen this t Team pick up some wins this season don’t say it the very few say it don’t say it say it we’ve seen Kade and Jaden struggle on the floor together at the same
Time is this a serious possibility where you are going to have to split up these two young guards no so Spencer quick off rip you would not even think about it no I’m not trading Kate Cunningham I’m not giving up Jaden Ivy after that performance I’m keeping those two guys
Together they can work better maybe play Cade more off ball cuz you see Jaden attack and do different things and he looks better like yeah like Tatum like Chris said may maybe making more of adjacent him with with facilitating but I just think no I think these are two guys that you can
Keep together two guys that are going to be very good for a long time and I’m not saying they’re going to they can’t play together Lloyd asander says they can’t play together I’m not saying that yet we haven’t even got a full season of these guys together so I’m not going to say
They can’t play together it’s like somebody saw this coming I’m just saying so who would you rather keep cuz Ivy’s looked better by himself than Kate did by himself what do you mean wins Los 307 point game that’s his career high wins and losses if they if
You’re if you’re ready to if you’re ready to pile on this the statistics say that this team is better with Ivy leading at the I mean listen I I I do think Ivy has more wins with Kate off the flo than Kate has more wins with Ivy
Off the floor but I’d like to look at the context like who was healthy who was saying who was playing that game you were missing bogy for that one and who else and Ste and Stu Ivy looked great last night yes he did he’s looked great this last like
Month he’s been like balling out of his mind looked great Sunday and it all started okay Kan s out but I’ve always said this he’s better with the ball in his hands I’ve always always always said that I’ve never denied Ivy as a great talent I’ve just always told you he’s
Going to be better with the ball in his hands and in my opinion I’ve always thought C was the better of the two when it comes to like winning basketball because I I saw him as a better like facilitator if you put the right pieces around him but you you making the
Argument of Ivy winning now I just it is too early to say it is too early to say even if you it come down to that to pick like which one is too early even do that in my opinion but I do think Kade is talented enough to where he could play
Those other positions where they can try to make it work like like I have more faith in Kade playing offl ball than I do Ivy playing offl ball and it’s just it’s going to be it is what it is type situation yeah I have more faith with
Kade playing off ball absolutely as well than I do I I think his size makes a more versatile alone it’s sh that that Ivy is dynamic when he has the ball in his hands when he’s running the office offense Kade is I think I I will say I
Think kade’s the better shooter when you when you put like spot up shooter and I even though I look greatly I don’t think he missed a shot in the fourth quarter like that dude was electric last night but I I still need I still want to see a
Full season of these two together before I say this team’s better off with one or the other especially now like I put the lineup out there of what I think is going to be the starting lineup for the Detroit Pistons or what I would like to see as the starting lineup for the
Detroit Pistons going forward and that being Kate Cunningham Jaden Ivy Quinton Grimes Danilo galinari and Jaylen durren that gives you four Shooters out there that gives you K Cunningham with the ball in his hands or Jade iy with the ball in his hands your small forward and
Power forward both shoot 35 Plus perc from three you put him out in the corner you got Jaylen Duran as a lot threat that is the best situation is it fedini instead of danillo we’ll see I think Monty leans towards wanting a veteran in the starting lineup and that’s why I’m
Saying Danilo will get the start oor Sasser Danilo Shake Milton those guys coming off the bench yeah I think well that’s that’s part of go I like the 10-man rotation much better now than it was a week ago cuz you got pieces that fit around exactly that’s all I’ve ever
[ __ ] wanted as much as like iy’s been cashing more wins than Kade without him iy’s also had the better like Supporting Cast like in that manner like fit you know what I’m saying and the times that Kate has got on there it’s been like off like chemistry like I haven’t played
These guys yet since we got here also like nursing back that injury he’s clearly not fully healthy if he’s taking games off and like cuz he’s get probable again tonight yeah after having like last night off and like for me yeah you had the shooting in your
Last lineup as well with Burks and bogy but Burks and bogy are traffic cones they can’t play defense we know Ivy is a subpar Defender as well so you can’t have all three of those guys out there at the same time Quin Grimes is a great defender so that’s somebody you can
Switch on multiple guys Danilo is old but he’s big and he’ll get in the way like he’s not locking anybody down or this Elite defender or anything but he’s a Savvy veteran he’s the four MO around and yeah and you got Duren to cover up for him rotating but I think Quinton
Grimes being a legitimate 3 and D guy is going to unlock this combination of Kad and Ivy a lot more than having uh bogie out there who can’t play defense or assur out there who can’t shoot um the real K Collins 77 Kate isn’t as good as
A playmaker as Ivy this is absolutely not true yeah that’s he turns the ball over more you could npw muw K is never healthy that’s starting to Trend towards true but can’t say that he’s not a better play the two things that concern me the most about kid cutting him are
His injuries and his turnovers yeah other than that I have the utmost faith in his abilities absolutely and you look at Paulo mro who’s an All-Star this year yeah we put the numbers side by side shooting included yeah simp yeah yeah what Chris what would you do in that
Scenario are you willing to keep waiting patiently waiting for these two to finally work it out or would you give Jaden Ivy maybe some more on stuff in honor situations in honor of this week’s anniversary of 50 cents album get rich or die trying just turned 21 can legally buy a drink patiently
Waiting absolutely it’s way too early this has been an ill-fitting roster Beyond just Caden Ivy Beyond this this roster has been just malfant all the way through so now like Spencer said and that’s the point I was going to get to is the fact that you do have a competent roster around these
Guys now none of these guys are good you want you want upgraded versions of all of these guys but at least play style wise schematically they can run what a typical NBA team can run and that’s something that the pisses haven’t been able to do in at least at least three
Years and that’s pathetic but that’s the truth is now we get to see what these guy what these guys look like together in the ivy point is n and void to me because Ivy’s play is very simplistic CAD is very complicated not saying one is better than the other but that is why
That is why it takes teams time athleticism like reads the FL iy’s Ivy’s elite iy’s elite skill everybody in this room knows it his athleticism yeah so all you have to do with him give him the ball run a 100 pick and rolls a game and
That is a blueprint that can lead to success K cunninghams is more nuanced that’s why I talked about the Jason tatums the Devon Booker counts with him because he does he does more than just pick and roll like Luka donic he likes to play off ball he likes to have his
Own different flow and Rhythm to the game like that’s that’s why it takes longer for teammates to adjust to K Cam’s play style than Ivy so to me they just haven’t had a sample size large enough to deem this a fit or not so I’m definitely waiting and I’m definitely
Not selling low on either of these two guys cuz these are both High class high class prospects I will say this too I I think one difference going forward too is like I think now we have an answer of like who you want to be the guy with the
Ball coming down the court yes at least and the answer is Ivy and and again that’s no slight towards Kade it’s just I think he’s best suited with the ball in his hands and as I said earlier like cage is skillful enough to play that two or three I think conversations that
We’ve had in this Camp is probably going to be the two but it’s at least we know that part going forward it’s not going to be like a mixup or there’s no confusion there so I and that’s what and that’s what I’ve been saying about Kate
Is I think he likes to play the first 40 minutes of the game like Devin Booker where he’s moving around and he’s bringing it up sometimes but he’s getting others involved and then the final 8 minutes 6 minutes when it’s crunch time you go Luca you go Harden
Where every play I’m bringing up the ball I’m the best shot maker on this team I think K kingham likes that balance and that’s a tough EB and flow to figure out so ivy can absolutely be the guy the supercharged engine for the first 40 minutes of the game but the
Final 8 6 minutes of the game I want the ball in K cam hands Kade Cunningham’s hands Cunningham hands C Cunningham K yes I think the one thing I mean we saw it last night the reason our team won that game is cuz we were able to shoot
From three what does Jaden Ivy do it’s kind of like football he makes the first guy Miss he’s going to get around the first guy collapse the defense that’ll leave shots open for Cade and I think the biggest thing to get through with these guys brains is that Jaden Ivy is
Batman I believe on this team and I think K Cunningham might need to take a step back and take a back seat to I come on that’s what I believe don’t disrespect in terms of having the ball [ __ ] Justice League bro get it right I said Robin you can’t you can’t be the
Justice League if you got seven wins yeah you have the [ __ ] Justice League you got the [ __ ] Justice League got you’re the com Guy what’s this team [ __ ] super tough friends I don’t know it’s not the Midwest Avengers they always lose s is cold not hate on SC
S solos Thanos fellas we’ve seen what this team has looked like this season with Kade as that lead Batman and it’s s and 4 it’s not the same team Nick don’t disrespect K him like that I’m not disres [ __ ] chair man I’m not disrespecting you call him Robin I’m
Calling him a two I think he’s a two on a good team I don’t think he’s the number one option this isn’t a good team this isn’t a good team exactly and he’s our number one and we’ve seen we just lose on good teams right now can be a
One I think he has the potential to be a one a good team I don’t I don’t I don’t I’m not going to perceive it I I think you’re just the way you’re you’re saying it is it sounds disrespectful to Kate Cy I just think they operate I don’t think
That Ivy is better than K they just operate better with ivy with the ball because K is better off ball than Ivy is okay yeah maybe I’m goinging about it the wrong way 1 a 1B I don’t want to say I don’t want to say Batman or Robin but
Maybe ivy should be the point guard yes yes and K should be the offguard yes still I still if it comes down to it if there’s 30 seconds left you need a bucket I want the ball in Kate Cunningham’s hands that’s what Batman and Robin is in my mind is who are you
Giving the ball to when you need a bucket I still think kade’s the Batman in that eyes but when it’s when it’s majority of the game starting the game maybe ivy should be the point guard and Kade should be the shooting guard I’m having second thoughts like that’s where
We’re different or being different views here I think Ivy could be that guy for this team I’ve seen Kade with the ball in his hands late game he’s lost many games this season they are bad team this was one game man Kate has won one game by himself Kate has done that
Before kade’s lost games in the final I I’m just saying we’ve it can go both ways I believe Ivy has a potential to be that number One
Spencer Raxter, EZ and the rest of the Heavyweights crew debate on whether or not, Detroit Pistons guards, Cade Cunningham and Jaden Ivey can play on the court with each other. If they can’t would they trade one of them away? Like, Subscribe and leave your comment below!
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15 Comments
Think the pistons are 4-6 without cade 🤣
Sir no there is no way you put Galinari in the starting. Why is this so hard for people to see? The starting lineup should be
Cade
Ivey
Ausar
Grimes or Simone
Duren
That is a starting line with no defensive liabilities and it maintains spacing for Cade and Ivey. Galinari is a walking turnstile at this point inhis career.
Yesterday the guy who said he watched Simone didnt know what he was talking about. Simone Fontecchio wad routinely put on the best offensive player his defense is solid. He said he couldn't move I would dare say that guy doesn't know enough about basketball because his movement off ball is crisp.
This is the single dumbest sports talk topic of 2024, and it isn't even close.
Would love to see Ivey be the number one option
That's a great question and they better figure it out. If Luka and Kyrie can play together why these 2 cant.
It's funny how when he first came to the team Cade Cunningham,some of these same guys called him a generational talent…Now it's debatable whether or not he's the guy who should be the focal point of the team👀🤔🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️😄😎✊🏽
In his defense though, I believe he had unrealistic expectations placed on his shoulders because of this "Restore" process…He's clearly not HIM,but he is a very good complementary player…Shades of Grant Hill 🤔😎✊🏽
We got better since dumping Livers and adding Danilo and Muscala…we space the floor better.
Dave Bing ben told us Cade was not a number 1. I want the ball in ivy hands more personally Cade is slow and turns the ball over. My thing is if Cade was really a Tatum he would average 30 points shooting the ball 20 times a game because the Pistons SUCK RN.
CADE IS HOT Garbage. I'm from the D. I love the pistons but absolutely can't stand cunningham. As a matter of fact, I hate hearing his name. As a matter of fact, I hate hearing about the pistons they have to have the lowest IQ as a team in NBA history.
THEY NOT BUILT FORD TOUGH
Cade should be playing off the ball, no matter who the PG is on the floor, and for all stretches of the game. That doesn't mean Cade isn't the best player. He's just so much more effective when he plays off the ball versus playing pg. Maybe it's the team around him, but I don't think playing a style like he's Harden(previously) or Luka is a good idea, he's not that guy.
This is a young team that hasn't played with each other. But I've said since Cade's rookie year he'll better playing the 2. At his size & skill he doesn't need to bring the ball up to be effective. And Ivey's speed is exactly why I was saying he should be the 1. This era of the NBA if you're point of attack is quick and hard to start in front of you're a dangerous team. Cade already shown he can score with the best of them. Now we can see what this team actually looks like. Idc if Grimes starts or come off the bench he's going to be a great piece to add because he can play defense, knock down shots also play with either or play along side them both.
Not the Justice league, more like suicide squad
Here's my problem when yall try to do this. They won against charlotte and ivey sucked. They shot 60% from 3 in these wins.
Can Chad Johnson hoop?
Cade plays better at the 2 ivy and sasser at the 1