Tim Hardaway Doesn’t Hold Back On Today’s Heat & Shares Untold Locker Room Stories
What you going to do take your go take my scholarship away you going to put them on probation yeah I got paid I got paid yes I get paid yo yo yo welcome to the OG show we back it’s a special special episode for me
Real OG yeah we got a real OG my OG yeah say one of my ogs man Tim Hardway I got to add the Senor yes I got to add the Senor yes you know what I’m saying out of respect but appreciate you Og man thank you well thank you I appreciate
You all having me it’s not about respect with the senior it’s just that when you say Tim Hardaway now they they be thinking about Tim Hardway Jr yeah which by the way is a blessing though oh no no question un I love it you know only the
Thing is though they probably give him some of my money instead of me so that’s why I have to say you got to put Senor on it listen listen listen to his credit he’s earned it but it’s a lot there a lot of money out there there’s a lot of money out he’s
Playing well yes playing his ass off I was going to touch on this later but now that we already kickstarted it cuz he has a son that plays basketball and I have a son that play basketball and that’s a slippery slope it’s a slippery slope you don’t want to damage the
Relationship that you have with your kids but you also want to push them to be the best version no question but they also for whatever reason our kids like to listen to everybody but us I be looking at my son like who G to tell you anything about basketball better than me
Please show me this mother who’s daddy is cooler than me Oh’s daddy Maverick’s Daddy I give you that I give you that but when it comes to that I’m saying to myself they kind of fight that a little bit or maybe that’s just my situation I don’t know
About your situation or your situation oh yeah they definitely fight it because I I could be literally sitting from me to you and say something to my son on the court the mother walk down here like he Ain hear me exactly exact i’ I’ve been in that
Situation and it’s hard it’s hard um one day my wife my daughter and my son we sitting in the car nobody was saying nothing and uh we get to the house nobody was saying nothing the next day I was like yo Tim why don’t you sit down
And um watch a game with me he said no he went over to his buddy’s house and watched the game with him and I was like I asked my wife you know that that that that Disturbed me yeah I get it that got that that Disturbed me and she was like
You know what you tearing this house up CU you you you want him to be like you he’s not going to be like you you want him to play like you he’s not going to play like you um so you you got to chill and I listened to her and I said you
Know what I’m gonna shut the up I’m gonna shut up and and I told him I said I’m going to be quiet I’m not going to say nothing and and when you say stuff like that they like mhm yeah yeah right we we got to believe we got to see it to
Believe it so I didn’t say nothing and when I didn’t say nothing for that first game I said you know good game you you you play you played well you know he was like all right then the next game a week later I didn’t say nothing he and I said
Yeah you played well and then the relationship started coming back it started coming back so by me saying you all got to dismiss yourselves and let your your kid grow up and let him come to you yeah or her come to you and talk to you and initiate the
Conversation about how can I get better what do I need to do to get better then you go out there and show them yeah and they’ll be receptive to you but now you just causing chaos between both of y’all and you want him because I grew up
Differently than than our kids we our kids growing up with silver spoons in their mouth and you know they going to school with with Nikes on and and Air Jordan and Nike this and and Gucci that and this all that type of stuff you know
You know driving in a nice car and stuff like that eating great food hey man it was tough for us it was tough our kids don’t know about free lunch hey man free lunch got your lunch C hey man I I told
I told my my my my my uh my my kids you know I used to eat pork and beans and hot dogs hell yeah pork and beans and wienies baby yeah yes sir I mean you know I hey that’s how we had to live you
Know at at times but um you know the game was different then too the game was totally different when we came in you know it was pushing shoving beating you up you you can’t cry you get knocked down you got to get up all tough and everything so um the game is different
Now but you know you just got to remove yourself from the chaos and let them grow up and let cuz same way with me I used talk to my son he he looked at what time I swear to God I swear to God this how he looked at
Me mother I’m tired of listening to you and he just walked down the court and I saw that look I’m like oh I was like oh you know you looked at me like you like you ra you was ready to get down and I never asked him that but I
That’s how I felt well put hands on you yeah yeah that’s how it felt like he wanted to put hands on me and I was like you know what let me let me just be cool I’m going to be cool but that’s that’s what you I think and I tell all parents
That just be cool calm down remove yourself and let them go out there and be them and I guarantee you they GNA have a lot more joy they going to enjoy playing the game of basketball and because they don’t have to listen to you they got to listen to the coach yeah
They listen to their buddies but they don’t have to listen to you you have to be Dad no matter what great point because when they come to you you got to tell them the truth and you got to make them understand this is what you’re not
Doing this is the way to do it this how you you play defense this how you rebound box out whatever it is yeah but let them come to you and ask you the question speaking of growing up how you get from Chicago to Texas El Paso that’s
A great question how you how how does that happen they have n back no they have n like how you get from Chicago to Texas El Paso a’t have no nil anyway they could have throw him nothing couple pesos or something they could have much couple Texas El pasos I’m GNA tell y’all
Something El Paso is a quiet kept City got a lot of paper they got paper they got paper so that’s that’s how it got uh I I can say now I mean what what you you going what you going to do take your going take my scholarship away you
Going to put them on probation yeah I got paid I got paid yes I get paid okay this I always wondered I always wondered I was like is he living off the history of them be go there there got to be something b
A b a i got paid all right so but anyway uh you know I wasn’t heavily recruited you weren’t heavily recruit I was not heavily recruited really and um everybody I was too everybody thought I was too small everybody um thought I I wasn’t going to be able to go from high
School to a division one and play at a division one um and at a high level yes I always had to prove myself no matter what always had to prove myself each and every day I played the game um because I was short so I had to go in
There and I had to work on my game doubly yes than other guys had to work I I had the talent mhm but I still wanted to prove to everybody that who you putting in front of me they can’t they they they not even in
My lead and that was that was my Thrive each and every day that’s what kept me going each and every day and I wanted to prove to everybody and I told my coach my high school coach I said if we don’t play these four guys that they think are
Better than me and higher than me I’m going to transfer and I told him I’m going to go to my grammar school coach high school and they didn’t want that so we got to play the the teams that I wanted to play and of course I went out there and we
Lost some but we won some but I show everybody in the city that you all are talking about them I’m way ahead of them if it wasn’t UTP where was it nowhere if it wasn’t UTP it’ probably been um probably Jo I I had there was no other
Schools C when I say no other schools I wanted to go to Illinois you know they had Nick Anderson and Kendall Gil and some other guys I looked at Oklahoma mookie block um um you know uh but it you know it just it was just the right fit
The GU one guy came and watched me play from Texas El Paso named Russ Brader he’s from the north side of Chicago Chicago he watched me play and um he came to me and he was straight up he said hey you know um I’m going to go
Talk to coach Haskins and go do your due diligence on Coach Haskins you know 1966 team beat eight off rup in uh national championship game he had Nate Arie Ball come there after Joo uh he liked T he liked guards um small guards come in and
Play hard and play well and you fit the description and so I was like okay cool you know and and we went from there and and I was like the last person that n uh that uh has Haskins went to go see uh play in high school and then you hit him
With the UTP twep twep where that thing came from man you know a lot of people um always ask me about my my you know my dribbling skills I was taught we it was grass and you know the sidewalk and so we used to uh you should
Be four to five guys trying to steal a ball away from you and you had to get from you know like like you how you do I forget what you call it you you catch the ball you throwing and the guy has to run and try to the bases right there we
Call it throw up tackle throw up tackle yeah one person got the ball everybody tried to tackle his right that too so we we um so we had a line here probably a line you know 10 ft apart and you had to get through four people and the grass
Was out of bounds so but but you had to dribble on the concete so you had nowhere to go you had nowhere to go so I’m dribbling between four people you had to know how to dribble hold this g off get through this guy hit you know it
Was just a and and that was a game that we play we didn’t had nothing else I was G to say so was no basket though you just trying to get through them some sometimes you could no it was no bad because sometimes sometimes you your your your parents wouldn’t let you off
The block yeah know that you know you be like hey yeah can’t go off the block today we can’t go off the block we just we going to go down to the other no what I tell you okay you can’t go off the block you go to the corner and you can
Talk to each other across the corner but you can’t go off the block remember yeah I remember that you know so so we had guys you know and we’ just be playing and maybe you get this ball stolen from you maybe not so at times you know I
Used to play around I knew I could get past them and stuff like that and um that’s how I devel develop my my drill skills and then I we had we had an unfinished basement and I had two beams about 5T apart and I just used to go
Downstairs and just dri when it’s snowing outside when it’s like you can’t go outside and do nothing I’d just be in a basement for about an hour hour and 15 minutes just going through drills in and out moves behind the back spin moves Hitting off the wall faking like I’m
Making a left hand right hand layup just to be doing something you know we we we only had three channels we had Atari Atari come on man I remember Atari man come on man still trying to figure out what it is on the screen exactly exactly you know and then
Then you know you can only read for but for so long right you know and then it’s fortunately I I had a basement that was unfinished and I could utilize it that’s so dope though to go no one’s recruiting you go to UTP Hall of Famer UTEP twep
Run TMC yeah you took every match up personal basically is what I’m gathering day every day I I took if if I remember in grammar school we lost to uh a grammar school they killed us I couldn’t get no sleep these two guards they killed us I couldn’t get no sleep I
Vow next time I see them I was going to destroy them next time I saw them I was in high school one went to one high school one went to the other High School what you do do I destroyed them I destroyed them I I I I I knew their
Names I knew what school they went to and everything I couldn’t wait to play them they my guy’s like man you so serious I said no man I’m I’m I’m about to kill these guys I’m about to kill that guy yeah no no no I mean I just I I just didn’t
Like people thinking that other people was better than me that’s the way you’re supposed to think yes yeah I I just didn’t like that I I I I took it personal and I and I went out there and and I showed them you know you’re not
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Over the league I get drafted first of all I suppose had went to Indiana Minnesota so they get pool richardon Minnesota I what pick was that that was like three or four I supposed to go three or four you went 14 I went yeah 14 Golden State come to find out Don Nelson
Is calling all the teams that was supposed to pick me and telling them I got a bum knee damn Don and he picks me Bill mus those team were like damn this mother here Bill muscleman son he said you know what we shouldn’t listened to that damn Don
Nelson we we could have had you I was like yeah yeah but he picks me I was supposed to go to out to Golden State from Miami from uh Chicago get to oare it’s a full out just storm couldn’t get out of Chicago we I I
Left oare about 2: in the morning said we all couldn’t get out I suppose that was the last day you go and work out it with it te so I told my agent I I can’t get out what you going to do and he was
He called him say can’t get out so he picked me anyway Don Nelson picked me anyway and first thing I get to after I I sign my contract Chris Mullen Mitch Richmond Rod hickin was there they was like what you want to do I said man I
Want to go play basketball I haven’t played basketball in in about five days so I’m like this you know I’m shaking I haven’t played basketball in five I got to go play some basketball man so we went and play basketball at uh cuz Chris Marin had a key to where Jason kid high
School and we went over there and we played about for about 3 4 hours we just played basketball man and that’s what Mitch Chris and myself we clicked right then and there and I always used to watch Rod Higgins in high school um when I was in high school come to the proam
So I knew about Rod Higgins and what he like to do but you know um when you have a guy like two guys like Chris and Mitch it makes your job easy because I knew where to give it to him right in the pocket shoot you know you cutting Molly
Know how to th it throw it past people’s ears you know right great passes you know and I used to watch Chris all the time you know in the Big East oh yeah St John’s oh man I mean he US Cold what Chris used to do in college it
Was unbelievable yeah it was unbelievable man so I you know so we just clicked right away and and run TC we had a drawing and it was this big thing they was rolling it rolling and rolling it and um so off camera we said cut and we went through some stuff and
We was throwing stuff way and we came across Run TMC so we put it in we knew which one we was going to get we got it cuz that that would have took like four hours you know so we got it we C Run TMC
And and uh but when we first saw it and it said Run TMC it just caught right then and there fit the way y’all played it just fit the way we played it was perfect and we just ran with it and um but our only mistake was we could have
Beat the Lakers but our only mistake was we had Run DMC comeing to announce us oh and when they was announcing us magic had he got his team in a huddle and he and I I could imagine what he said but they came out you talking about Showtime
Woo so y’all had to Run DMC announc Run TMC yes it was great it was great it awesome it was awesome man it was absolutely beautiful awesome but uh yeah we lost that game and the series I got one question cuz me being from Florida and being in Florida boy
Obviously a lot of people I don’t think know how cold Miss Richmond was she a lot of people I think don’t know how you don’t know back home yes he is a Florida boy yes we claiming that yes he is because we don’t get a lot of hoopers
In the league just please let’s just give Mitch his flowers just real quick my God I’m talking about a bucket I’m talking about a bucket yes he was I played with him yeah I play with him I know what he could do yeah some you know
How you you you you y’all show LeBron and his eyes and stuff like that we see Mitch come in and you you you just see his face you’re like oh that guy in trouble that shooting around you just see his face you like yes somebody’s in trouble yes
Tonight yes he get he would get locked in like that oh yes as shoot around that’s awesome we on a bus yeah he not saying not a word not one word he’s locked in he’s not playing around Ain no yeah none of that none of that remind
You of something he’s coming in just coming in just start shooting and and just doing his work and doing this and doing that we like o oh somebody’s in trouble yeah and he gives it to I mean man he’s giving it to him mentally and physically yes mentally and
Physically he I mean that’s why we call him the rock yeah he was I mean like he oh I didn’t see him just destroy people but he don’t get the flowers that he deserves no he don’t don’t you know and then and and and and when we made him
Well Don Nelson made a mistake and trading him uh that was the beginning to the end to what we had but he when he went to Sacramento a lot of people don’t know what he was doing in Sacramento shoot I do I saw I do I exact video G I was
Playing with him on a video game yeah he he and then he went to Washington was doing it yeah you know I mean man Mitch man that that dude he he doesn’t get the praise that other ball players do and um and that’s why me and me and Molly we
Talk about them all the time that’s dope I got one of my uh welcome to the NBA moments was you because I didn’t know what the NBA really was you’re were playing for the Nuggets I think and uh you got into it with Monty Williams and
On your way out you took the TV set he already know He already know He already know I ain’t going to lie I’m 19 20 years old that TV set go across the floor you threw the TV on the court I threw the TV on the court no
No picked up the TV right slung it yeah damn what what what could have POS i’ have done some crazy but I ain’t never no you know you could do that today though do that no no no no Mark Davis he from Chicago Mark yeah I know Mark you
Know Mark he he I don’t even want to talk about him but uh he he thought I was was in a beef with Mon Mon Mon Williams yeah and I I didn’t say nothing to I don’t even know how I got into that into into that whole thing yeah they I
They picked something with me and then Mark Davis was like yeah it’s you it’s you I said Mark I didn’t say a word and then Mark kicked me out just like that he kicked me out I was like why you kicking me out he said cuz you instigate
I said I didn’t say a word if you look at me on film from when that instigation started I did not say a word come on now you ain’t say nothing I did not say word I I swear to you I did not say a word and
Then I I I hey I talked that you not this time though not this time I didn’t say a word and then when he kicked me out I I got so raged I wanted to choke him I wanted to put my hands around his neck and and pop his head off his
Shoulder that’s how mad I was like like like teron Lou oh yeah just recently said he went back I want to kick him in his mouth yeah that’s what he said it I wanted to put my hands around his neck and just let it but I couldn’t hey hey
You want to show how old school it was too I gotta I gota go look at the video on it because it’s bringing back it was so old school that the TV was like that box yeah little box TV little small like a little square box yeah just think if
It was a a flat TV I would have thw like fris went to the stairs lawsuit yeah yeah lawsuit facts they giving out lawsuits for everything dude did you Isaiah Stewart oh went to jail that night to jail I need the footage yeah I need the footage whatever what happened
I got to see what happened too whatever what happened he went to jail oh he’s in trouble yeah I need the footage yeah he’s in it’s but it’s going to come out talk about talk about because you’re see and obviously with your son and he’s playing great and he’s dering everything
But the difference in basketball when you played and then it started gradually getting to where we played into where the game is now I mean obviously everyone talks about things but you lived it you’re a Hall of Famer through it like talk to us about where basketball and where you think
Basketball is compared to what it was back then it was physical yeah I mean I tell folks when you when you like if you pass a ball and you run into through the lane you’re getting hit you’re getting chucked you got you you got it’s like carrying a football you
Got to you got to protect your ribs and your stomach and your gut and you and when they say you got to do sit-ups yeah you got to do a million sit-ups because you know it’s four people to Chuck you yes and they not chucking you they like
Hitting you I mean you was getting hit yes so uh it was it was physical it was physical uh some of these files flagrant wands flagrant to that was just a regular foul I mean like like like come on man yes come on I I I I
Sometimes I laugh you know and and I want to tell you this so with with with the rules today you you you could take a day off or whatever back then you couldn’t take a day off back then it was uh inur Reserve yes it was five games
Yes yeah it was five games so if you talking about taking a day off you got to take five days off five games you spray your ankle there put you on a five day deal five five games could be like 10 days yeah five games yeah that’s
Right yeah I remember that that was towards by being of my take game you just you just couldn’t take a game off so so so be careful you know when you say my ankle Hurt No Doubt how bad is it really hurt yeah how bad does it really hurt you know like
Like your finger you talking about your your finger broke it’s some people playing with they broke finger I remember they talking about yeah you know my thumb hurt dude tape that thing up and let’s go with it listen if you heard in Miami you rather go take up and
Play in to go in the play pin remember play pin my finger could be hanging off and tape it back on tap it back on I did not want to go over there in that play pin cuz that was pick it up and tape it back on that was more dangerous
Then this way more D you would rather practice hurt than to go in the play p with in Miami I told him I had rather practice hurt than to go in the play pin in Miami it’s bike over there it’s weights over there it’s medicine balls
Over there by the time practice is over you have completely mentally physically and emotionally pushed yourself to the Limit what’s that machine that you go like this just rolling it with your arms that’s the worst machine ever invented who whoever whoever invented that need they ask no question I did that thing
For 30 minutes I was mad than a mother I said Bill whoever give me name that who invented this so I go whoop his ass cuz I’m strong now listen that’s Pat with that Jedi mind trick well you don’t want to practice they go over in the play pin
Ain’t nothing playful about that over there nothing it’s not a game it’s not a game it’s not a game over there serious press off a surgery and I you got to take some time off but I was getting closer to it and they put me in there I
Said man I’m practicing tomorrow there ain’t no way way in hell I’m doing doing that you rather doing that you crawling down the court no I can still go I won’t be over there I mean it’s it’s two hours it’s two two and a half hours of situps
Pushups Waits bike riding a bike or doing I don’t even know what that machine was called yeah whatever that the machine was stair Master stair master that you just do your arm save your legs you save your legs I don’t even know what that machine was but yeah
That that yeah that I agree with you whoever invented that needs ridiculous the whole play pin situation was ridiculous yeah oh yeah we going we going to um um ride the bike for for an hour and a half no no no we rather just run up and down the court just do some
Thre man weave no we get doing no no no we we do not want to get on that bike you don’t want no parts of that that’s that’s that’s heat culture yes but you and I came towards the end and I was um it was handed to me obviously but you
Know it was started with you know your your your generation and your teams and I watched you speak on it a while ago and once another person that don’t get enough flowers um Keith asins talked about what Keith asins meant to heat coaching because when I first got to the
Heat Keith Askins was my guy he was who I worked out with he was who I shot with he was who I watch film with um he was who I had those mentally you know intimate conversations with about how to survive in this league and what I need
To do um so you spoke on he Keith asins being like almost inventing heat culture somewhat can you just talk about that some of those things what what Keith meant to that cuz I don’t think he get his flowers unsung hero man unsung hero
Yes sir real man I I um you know you know when a guy come to you and you you you not playing well or you he knows that a person isn’t um not is not in your caliber and you one your teammates come you say yo man yo youro bigs uh yo
Man he shouldn’t be doing that to you you know uh yo let’s clam down yeah it’s not enough of that in the NBA right now you can’t go to your teammate and talk to your teammate right now because he now he’s thinking that you know you getting on them or you know
That you not do something whatever whatever it is Ka you should come to us and tell tell us yo man you got to pick up your game a little bit and we listen Ka come in every day of practice every day of practice put his hard hat on and
Do his work every day in the game put his hard hat on do what he need to do he never complained if when he was hurt he went there got his treatment came came out did what he’s supposed to do never complain and when you talk about
Culture when you see a person like that that never complains go out there and do his job each and every day the same way work on this game every day the same way we all want to just be quiet and be just like him that’s dope and just come in there and
Just work that’s dope no matter what he never complained if the practice was hard it it was always hard we gonna do the same thing he gonna come out he said he’ll tell you this he said you know what it is you know what it is it’s
Gonna be like this every day yeah Ain Chang it’s just like it’s not going to change and pick up basketball it’s GNA be just like this it’s not going to change we knew it we knew it but it kind it was like like he was he’s been around that franchise since day one
Yes so he was even though you know you had some guys that was older than him some guys wasn’t he was the eldest statement on on the team and we always you know he let us do what we need to do wow he let us be
Leaders but we knew who the leader was m and we knew who started really the heat culture wow was that was that still mouth pieces and knee knee pads up mouth piece knee pads up taped and Brace you always got to tape you always got to have knee brace I’m not wearing a
Uh mouth piece no if you get if you hit me in my mouth yeah we we having a fight that we throwing down that that means you you know what you you you did that on purpose bringing that to the table though give us some good heat uh locker room storage from
Your time oh man I I would say this so so we in a locker room this the ultimate funniest in the world we in the locker room Pat rally is giving a speech so zo zo had to let out this I mean I guess his stomach was bubbling or
Whatever you know how you sit down you know you try to ease it out Zo stood up and put his leg up and let one rip for about 10 seconds damn and Pat Pat stopped talking turned around it was you you saw his face he he was smiling going the other
Way we was like okay okay but he never said nothing he never said nothing we was like but damn you’re not g to say nothing somebody else did you probably threw him out or something like that afterwards Pat walked out we looked at so so like I had to go oh man
Listen but another story so we we on a plane got a big game we win a big game so we used to some Ike Austin used to have his boom box and we used to play The Boom box and everybody we had a soul train line yeah
Soul Train that’s right we we had our own plane that’s right that’s right Pat got up and was in the soul train line dancing he ain’t got but one dance he ain’t got but one dance and that’s the dance he did right what’s his Dance’s I come on up to the
Rising we got one dance we I think we was in Phoenix or Milwaukee he got mad one day I think it was in Phoenix he got mad than a he was mad and it was after the gang and he did not know cuz it was closed up that that the
Uh Gator raade thing uhoh uhoh he did not know it was like like a ice in it or whatever he picked it up and tried to put it over his head and stumbled and so he he couldn’t finish his speech of how mad he was he walked in the back
Where the coach’s lounges at Ron coped him had to go see if he was all right I don’t think he was all right every time pat get mad it’s bad for him yeah he always hurt himself yeah be bad as hell he hurt himself he got
Mad at us and kicked the damn door we see him had to go blew H out kicking the door and now he got to have hit replacement cuz he mad at us kick door but I’m GNA tell you this man he’ll do anything for the team no doubt
Yes he would do anything for the team anything he said he said he told us one thing he said if y’all want the fans to come out y’all got to go out there and win there’s nothing I could do there’s nothing Mickey could do it’s all on you
All if y’all want fans to come y’all got to go out there and win and we just went out there we we just went out there and just played basketball the way we practiced and F if it was overtime people was like damnn y’all not even
Breathing hard I was like no we practice for two and a half hours we run we all good what was that what was that uh the Heat Nicks what was that really like crazy than a mother cuz you see it on TV and it was awesome but loved it that was real loved
It loved it but it was created by Pat Raley it wasn’t created by Miami Heat and the New York Knicks it was created because of Pat R came from there he left he left without telling them or sent them a a facts or something like
That so it all created from him and let tell you something so we go to um everybody get traded or get to the team like Dan Marley went to Phoenix and won went to Charlotte and won went to uh Dallas and won uh went to uh uh Golden
State and won I think it was another somebody else U PJ Brown went to New Jersey one yeah so we in Madison Square Garden 800 PM game on TNT I’m always the last one to leave go out there I’m tying up my shoe getting my stuff ready Pat say hey uh he ain’t
Even call me big Tim they he called me bigs he said hey bigs I said what’s up Pat I thought he was like about to say something something you know yeah he said man you know we all went to y’all cities and won can y’all win this one for me I
Never told nobody to store and I looked at him I was like so we go out there I said yo man said we got to win this one for Pat yeah we got we we have to come out and win this one for Pat yeah we go out there
And beat him by like 2530 so Pat was so happy happy you just tell in his face he he never showed it but I could tell in his face that he was real happy cuz we went out there he asked us to do something and he know
That we we was always behind him like he’s behind us right so I mean his his his his his his motivational speeches oh oh god listen you’re I don’t care what nobody say you run through a brick wall question came in how he’s talking about coming in with that cooler and he tried
To throw it came in there one day with a cooler full of ice water we like what the going on R’s thirsty put his head in the ice water for 30 second ice water got to be freezing cold and pulled his head out and say you got to want to win this game
Like you got to take your last breath I said this mother crazy so water got to be cold as he gonna catch pneumonia yeah so he gonna catch pneumonia but like he said that it resonated to us and we were like this almost did that to y’all
Almost died in here trying to get we want to win y’all magic told me he did that to them see that’s how he get you Jedi Mind trip Jedi Mind trip so he did it with them nobody on that team was on our team so this was the first time we
Saw it that was second time zo saw it because he was with us he did it with us so I I bet you it didn’t bother zo but y’all y’all was ready just like yeah let’s go like ready to die about let’s go no he for real he was ready to die
He’s for real and he had his head in the water for about a good 30 40 seconds yeah like I was like okay do we need to pull this mother up yeah no he going to be all right he was all right he it was
Cold yeah he was all right but no man them speeches they was on point all the time it they wasn’t on point some of the time or here go another speech no we was like okay got his speech okay let’s let’s hit this mother go I want to hear what you want I
Want I want to see what you got today it felt like it’s like it’s like the OG podcast on Tuesday yeah it felt like it felt like every speech he was talking to you personally even though it’s 15 other dudes in there feels like it’s
Just you and him in that room and he talking to you yep that’s what it felt face to face yes that’s how it was and that’s why anybody that played for Pat would would put it on the line for him wheny there’s a ain’t no in between the
Man said and I quote there’s winning and there’s misery y ain’t no in between and I live that yeah no for real didn’t I just tell you on the last one I I I can’t function in losing spaces I make bad decisions when I start losing in
Life don’t go right in practice don’t say nothing in practice that’s another hour so Ike Austin they in the playoffs Ike say something we all looked at Ike and we was like you son of a gun you mother why did you open your mouth we was five minutes from out of this mother
And you opened your mouth it’s another hour yeah he he he pulled you know them papers yeah that blue paper out paper this is why Ike and he went down the line now we gonna run through this again oh you talking about somebody was about to get murdered ik Ike Ike went
Downstairs he shook everybody ass man I’m sorry I am sorry I’m so I’m gonna make it up to y’all I said yeah gonna make it up to us by winning this game tomorrow yeah man please I said yeah you can’t say nothing in practice I was G to say the fact that he
Even said something in practice hold on I can’t believe he even said nothing don’t say you don’t say nothing only thing you hear is his voice and whistles and a whistle that’s all you hear in practice yep where where you see you getting on B for calling back
Off and do get do don’t like that oh no you mother get M dude what you do still think that’s my dog shout out M do man the best the best you be cussing him out Bob that wasn’t a foul yes it was you not even a real referee how you know
That was do say if I play M dude was greatest quote ever if I played the day they had to pay me 400 million for what I did if I played the day they had to pay me and he say that swag they pay me 400
Million for used to do M was a bad man yes sir tell y’all another story they used to get on Bob PJ and um and Zo so they got ready like P playing Bob um knockout mhm I put on my ice and I sat right there and I was the
Instigator talking guy I don’t believe it I don’t believe itob I already know how this story is Bob was damn yes yes yes oh my God I mean he was shooting deep one dribble bag them back they like oh you mad cuz I mean uh we we we we had to
Practice for two and a half hours I said but I said but y’all want to play him that’s y’all fault I said Bob is killing y’all PJ was mad next thing we know the the window open up hey Bob Bobby come here Bobby let me talk to you for a
Second that was Pat call him Bobby he called him Bobby we like oh he call him Bobby he had to go to the principal office the next day was like what’s up Bob ah mother y’all got me in trouble listen let me tell you somebody he said
He he said I said for you kicking they ass you in trouble they was talking he’s like yeah I know he said he said I I was taking that confidence away from him I said oh okay yeah that mother do is a smart mother yeah cuz when we got there
It was the same thing with us but we used to play Nets and everybody thought this two hands I don’t know how he used to get it off dude slang that up there but he used to play us in Nets shooting free throws for Nets and he would win
Money on us all the time but y quick story with do is what he did for me in my career is when I got to the heat he told me the great the great bigs average rebound every three minutes so he used to challenge me to average Reb rebound
Every three minutes so what he would do is he would keep my rebounds and we would keep my minutes and if I went over then every minute I went over that I didn’t get a rebound I would owe him 20 every minute that I was under the three
Minutes and I got a rebound he would owe me 20 we would settle up at the end of the month right he would keep all that but in my mind I was chasing them boards because I knew great rebounders average the rebound every three minutes that was
Something D told me and I didn’t know that but he told me that so all my career at least every three minutes I got to be grabbing a rebound yeah I got to be grabbing a rebound D do do knows the game inside and out he played at a
High level he was the best he played at a high level and and when you have a guy like that in your corner yes only thing you can do is listen and go for it yes what’s your what’s your thoughts on the current Heat team
Um stay healthy yes yes first of all yes stay healthy they pass up too many shots all this pump faking and one dribble then pass over here take the shot that’s given to you take the shot that’s given to you and it’s another thing uh me personally Terry Rosier you got to let
Him go you got to let him go he knows what to do he’s a point guard go be him you’re saying go be him he’s a point guard he’s a young guy that go out there and get it done yes and he’s going to find the people and make them you know
Hero he gonna get his 20 30 whatever Robinson going to get his but he’s the only one that could really break somebody down and make it work and make it happen so I think you got to let him go do what he needs to do in the confinement of the
Offense yeah but you got to stay healthy that’s the that’s the first and main thing them guys are not healthy you know uh you know gy ya because of personal reason you know that that’s something that you can’t control but you know ankle here finger there back here this
And that here um I bet if they had to go to the play pin there like I bet if they had to go to the play P ass and suit up go to the play pin they suit up motherucker would be missing no games then thater ass to the play pin be out
There be out there with one foot yeah You’ be out there one foot defense is sliding your ass off but but you know I I I like I always like the Miami he I like how they play they some sometimes they play too unselfishly I want I I I just want some
Guys to play a little bit selfish couple rapid fire questions Dallas where they’re at obviously Junior’s over there Luca Kyrie they got the trade with PJ Washington uh brought the big in um Derek Li play great Gafford who’s I think is’s really underrated what do you think what you
Where you see them at and what uh as the season obviously Allstar break coming to end here and going forward great two Pi great two pickups pickups great two pickups great you got two athletic bigs that you can switch off and play good defense and don’t miss a beat I’m gonna
Tell you this um Luca bad boy bad boy plays at his own beat I watched him when you you watch him on TV it’s different but when you watch this person whole different game I mean what he does and how he does it you be like damn he’s brilliant out there on that
Court yes making shots going to the whole stop I never seen a guy that just stops and then goes up and does craziest thing i’ ever seen I I I you know I’m a study of the game I just want them I I I need Fuca to stop dribbling the ball you know
Stop being Bal dominant but that’s his game you got to know how to be ball dominant but you got to know how to run offense run offense for some guys that need offense ran for them Kyrie don’t need offense ran for him ever but you know somebody like my son you need a
Floppy for him yes why understand couple of pin Downs for him you need to get him involved in the game so it can make it easier for you because if you got somebody like you Mike I’m standing in the you stand in the corner for eight minutes you just
Run up and down the court and you stand in the corner for eight minutes and then they pass you the ball you got a wide open jump shot you’re not going to make it you’re not you’re not in Rhythm you haven’t even touched the ball you haven’t touched the ball to take the
Ball out of bounds for eight minutes if you you saying that that that you need some of your guys to come in and flourish and and to have it easy on Luca and Kyrie run offense get other people involved you going to still get your 30 yes but then they GNA really
Talk about you in MVP conversation because them not talking about him is because they record is not up there so you talk about two great point guards sorry you talk about two great point guards Luka and Kyrie who’s your best point guard of all time who you think is
The greatest point guard of all time Magic I like that I’m gonna take it over and my and my guy my mentor my my idol is Isaiah Thomas Thomas gonna say gota be but but oh Magic Man I mean oh I mean magic at what got five oh he’s so good I mean
Yeah I mean I mean but Zeke was a bad boy but yeah imic I’m I’m G touch on the thing that you said with with Dallas and Luca um it’s also to me it goes back to basketball IQ and not Luca basketball IQ but the other guys on the court when I’m
On the basketball court and you say for instance you got Luca bringing the ball down on the left side and I got Lil Timmy running the right wing as a big I already know I’m getting this on the pin down right we don’t have you don’t have
To call it you don’t have to say nothing little Timmy I’m getting you on the pin down coming down as on transition if Luca coming up that left side and I’m running the middle and you on that right side I’m G break that and I’m G get you
A pin down to come to the top of the key that don’t need to be a play call no and and I’m glad you said it the basketball IQ obviously is something that obviously needs to work in in Timmy’s favor cuz we don’t have to call a play to know in
Transition that’s probably the best shot you going to get the big is going to be sagging back mother already joged back anyway I got you on a quick pin down he’s lazy as hell you come off and get a shot out we don’t even have to run
Nothing I’m gonna tell you I’m that’s a great analogy because if you look at Duncan yes we do it all the time we don’t have to run a play and and I’m and I’m won’t even go further back when Mike Miller came into the game yes when he
Came to the game that’s all y’all focus on this guy open I’m looking for him in trans wide open jump shots threes you don’t have to call I’m looking for him he’s going to make it yes and when you have your best shooter on the court Tim
Is their best shooter on the court they we got to be hunting for him you and they don’t hunt for him everything is going to Luca a Kyrie you got to get other people involved and other people open to make it easier for them because say say
If they because they know only thing we got to do is concentrate on Luka and Kyrie that’s they they know that but if we got to concentrate on these other guys yes then Luca and Kyrie you got these other guys on the island which they normally have and then make it easy
For them like like like like you like I look at y’all with Duncan hero y’all trying to get them guys open all the stru yeah you trying to get that guy not even a play call if we coming down in transition and B running the middle of
The paint and he got dunk in or one them we breaking off wi we breaking off to a wi we bringing dun and Max off that wi but then again your coaches have to instill it into your team and show team on film when you talk to them and let
Them know look maybe just maybe we don’t want it pick and roll maybe we need to get Tim open he came in you know that’s going to make it easy let’s get him rolling then guess what two guys coming to you you slip most guys you know but
That’s what the coaches just got to do and that’s what the team has to understand that and like you said that’s basketball IQ Mo most mother use transition defense as a time to rest yeah nobody has a body on that’s the perfect time to break it off as a big
Set a y and pin down for are the best in that yeah for sure couple fan questions favorite heat memory oh game seven New York Knicks 37 bust they ass is that when you hit game shot you punch in the air which one was that what you
Do to him what you do to him the ass game seven you know what got me hype I’m going tell you this what got me hype driving to the uh driving to the arena Arena then Arena my son said dad like yeah I know you like to listen to
Your music you like to get you know your stuff and all this and all that I got a question I’m like help he got to say let me turn it down he said uh what’s the crossover I had to take off my what’s the crossover have you never seen a
Crossover he said no I said because you back there playing with the games back in the back in the game room and this and that and this and that I said listen you got to stay in your seat I don’t know when it’s going to come but you got
To stand you cannot go back there you can’t go get a hot dog at half time you got to go get water uh you know use the bathroom on hold it to halftime whatever I tell you you man the second play of the game we get a
Steal I’m not thinking nothing except I hope he’s in his seat cuz it’s coming cuz it’s about to happen right now this about to happen right now I said I just hope he in his seat and when I did it I laid it up and I pointed to him and I
Saw him and he was like he was jumping up and down he was like yeah yeah yeah and I was like all right cool that’s a crossover to cross but but I like I said I didn’t know when it was coming but when we got that steal I was like you
Know how you like okay when I’m going to do it only thing I’m thinking of hope he’s in the seat I hope he’s in the seat this going down right now this is happening right now so yeah I just wanted the crossover cuz like I don’t
Know if you know this but like the killer crossover you change like you changed the game like with that was everybody was trying to do the killer cross everybody wanted that you know the everybody wanted that like for the culture you was in rap songs people talk about rap songs it’s everywhere I’m
Going to tell you this I watch the game and I don’t know because I’m not having my phone out and taking pictures of TV or anything like that James Harden does it uh uh but he goes from from uh left I mean right to left with he does same
Move that I used to do he does it this way and go to his left hand um uh what’s my man at Cleveland um Donovan Mitchell yeah Mitchell he does it and gets open I seen um uh at times Curry does it you know so I see little [ __ ]
And guys doing it but they don’t even know that they doing it a lot of people don’t even know that that’s my crossover but they doing my cross because I know that the coaches on their team is teaching them that that the crossover so I be I’ll be watching but I can’t get
Cuz I I wish I get it all the time I should have click you know when they about to click you know whatever but I don’t so but I I see it all the time they do they they do my crossover all the time that was big for the coaching
Another another heat uh fan question this a pretty interesting one would you like to see your son in the Heat jersey do you think it happens before he retires I’ve been trying to get him in the Heat jersey and he will not be wearing my number if he gets on the Heat
Team he will not be wearing my number do you understand me that number is never coming down you are not going to wear my jersey I agree you see how I walk now it hurts when I walk why my Jersy that’s why my jersey you not you’re not going
To wear my jersey then my wife be like well why not because he’s not that’s my I agree Bas based on the fact that my there too my a coming down yeah my a come no yeah well you know no you might you might do something to jeopardize
That hey qu we go put it back up yeah you know you know it’s it’s always it’s it’s always that it’s always that now don’t don’t think that you know I’m not thinking it’s always that I’m not saying I just say it now but yeah in the back
Of my mind you up my I’m not GNA have you let you have that I agree I agree no another another question I think I the answer to it do you still hate the Knicks wow you know what I’m I’m gonna tell y’all something man it’s a lot of a lot of
Guys don’t talk we we if we see each other it takes us a lot to walk up to each other like me and John Starks or or I’m tell you we beat we beat um we beat them in game seven me and um what’s quarterback name
Uh uh the one PJ had a fight with I forget it’s Charlie War okay we go on a Nike tour in um in um in China we on the same bus everybody speak to everybody we did not look at each other we did not say nothing we a do
Nothing I said you know what I said this is ridiculous after everybody got off the bus I said hold on Charlie this is ridiculous man I understand you know we don’t like each other I understand I said but that’s while we playing the game what we got
The Jersey we here we supposed to have a good time we can’t look each other in the eye and just say what’s up or good morning I said I I don’t know I don’t know about you but I had a problem with that because I’m not that type of person
I feel you I like to say I’m I’m I’m very cordial I I’m very respectful if I see you I’m good morning good morning that’s the way I am but that that just seemed awkward to me yeah and so yeah yeah it it it’s hard
It’s hard I mean I don’t like I I like them I don’t dislike them or anything like that that was then but it’s still some animosity right now to this day I mean no question I hey I agree Ser how I feel is it’s still I I I I chose my side hey
It takes a it takes minut see each other it takes a minute to walk we might walk around each other for a couple of minutes or whatever before we get the courage to say hello seriously last fan question this is great that’s real yeah
I mean it goes on both ways I mean it’s not just my way I I I want to go up there and say hello but when you see a person you know trying to like you tell yeah you can tell you be like okay well I’m not I’m just going to walk around
Yeah exactly alltime Heat starting five oh man Tim Hardway for sure uh Dwayne Wade for sure uh of course you got to put LeBron in there y sure and then you got to put I I can’t go nowhere without my buddy zo yeah for sure there’s four
Man you gonna go with zo and Shaq both four and five I how many years Shaq played with the heat one and a half two no more than that right more than that okay I think what three or four three or four maybe three or four okay Shaq it’s good big
Ass team now yeah they loaded let me ask you a question with the with the UTEP twostep the killer crossover and all that real quick think you if if your time was different you think You’ have the same impact today I think it’d be more I think it’d be better yeah I’m I’m
I think You’ be more because it’s easier to play defense you less defense but you got to understand I would have grew up differently yeah you see see how I grew up it made me become who I am I get it and if I would have grew
Up in this era I don’t know that this area would have made me you would have took every match up personally like exactly so so you talking about my skills yes but you’re talking about I don’t know if I would have had the same skills because I was we would have been
Brought up differently you might have had a different mentality I had a different mentality that’s a good point you know and a lot of people don’t don’t realize that these these guys today grew up differently yes the world is different we didn’t have social media yes
We had we didn’t have you know they had guns but we didn’t have no way it was like this all right let’s go all you like and then they’ll form a a circle around you until you get tired get get get tired of somebody getting knocked out and then they’ll push you
Off and let’s let’s go keep going you know that I mean that’s the way it was gangs yes you know I grew up with gangs and drugs and all that type of stuff I had to run away from gangs I had to fight my way away from stuff you know it
Like I said the way we brought up our kids today and the way people bring up their kids today is totally different than how we was brought up you know so yeah I I I I I will say my game would be different it wouldn’t I don’t think it
Would be like that because the way I grew up well since we got the UTEP twostep the killer crossover in the building this next segment by prize picks is top five in today’s game handles oh all right I’m going Kyrie Lamela ball James Harden johnar and Paul George oh Paul George oh
Oh I like that who you got anyone I’m missing uh I’m you know what I’m gonna go Kyrie Irving y Steph Curry y Steph’s up there for sure and I’m I’m G I’m I’m gon even go one Luca anous he got nice handle he does got a
Handle now got nice handle yeah it’s just not doesn’t look like the rest of the guy but 100% nice handle he’s got you to do what he does you cannot stay in front of this guy nobody you can’t I seen he could put
You on I skates he can do he he got a lot I like that James hard yep of course James hard uh who else uh you know what I’m G I’m man I’m going to go my man in um Philadelphia point guard tyres Maxi yeah
He got nice handle yeah he got nice oh hold up you know I’m gonna go I’m jayen Bronson I like Jaylen under control yeah yeah all nice handle he get he his he got all that watch I’m like I be watching him he I mean it’s slow but it’s effect you know
We got all that we got all that man we appreciate you coming in you’re a real OG for real thank man iate everything you did for this game and where we’re at now man we appreciate you coming in and and spending some time with us y’all doing y’all doing a fabulous job y’
Y’all you know what y’all don’t know how fast y’all growing thank you y’all growing real real real real fast app you know and and it’s a tribute to you all understanding the game understanding people um knowing what you’re talking about and how to deliver it so uh kudos
To you all and contined success appreciate that OG I want to personally thank you obviously for you know the impact that you had on me before the cameras was even cut on before the lights was on people don’t know you used to come to Miami High and play pickup
With us you used to bring little Timmy over there you know what I’m saying and play pickup with us so you really showed love to the hood and the people in the city you know what I’m saying and you embraced us kids out of high school that
Wasn’t even on your level but you when we wern’t doing something right hey man cut out play the game right way pass the D like you know what I’m saying like you made us feel you know what I’m saying like we was even though we wasn’t on
Your level you made us feel like somebody cared you know what I’m saying just come and hoop with us so that one went along long way and two um watching you you know with your jersey go up for the Heat and what you meant to the Miami
Heat and then watching you in this next phase of your career did you venture into a couple different things I watched it all unfold you know what I’m saying so I appreciate you for that you know what I’m saying because once again how often do you see somebody that comes in
The hood and plays basketball with the kids and he ain’t even from there right you it’s easy for you to do that in Chicago you did that Miami I just love the game I that was big bro that was big man the city always love you for that we
Appreciate you so I appreciate you for the example you set for me man and not just as a OG but you as a kid in in the city coming up and trying to make it somewhere and just do something with their s man so thank you OG I appreciate
That thank you and y’all turn into the carton show FS1 March 4th I’m back on uhoh you heard that tune in tune in tune but we appreciate you man OG’s with the real OG we’re out tune in Tuesdays peace
The OGs welcome the one and only, Hall Of Famer, NBA legend, Tim Hardaway! On today’s episode, Tim Hardaway gets unfiltered and reveals some untold Miami Heat stories, his honest take on the Heat today, and the Miami Heats CRAZY rivalry with the New York Knicks…
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Chapters:
00:00-1:35 Intro
1:35-6:49 Children hooping
6:49-10:36 Chicago to El Paso
10:36-13:17 UTEP two Step
13:17-15:36 Taking matchups personally
15:36-19:47 Run TMC
19:47-22:10 Mitch Richmond
22:10-24:54 Throwing a TV
24:54-27:03 Then and Now
27:03-29:09 The play pen
29:09-32:50 Keith Askins
32:50-36:31 Heat Stories
36:31-38:36 Heat vs. Knicks
38:36-42:08 Pat Riley speeches
42:08-45:33 Bob McAdoo
45:33-47:15 Current Heat team
47:15-53:07 The Mavs
53:07-56:35 Fan Questions
56:35-57:40 Jr in a Heat jersey
57:40-1:00:07 Still hate the Knicks?
1:00:07-1:00:50 All time Heat starting five
1:00:50-1:02:37 Impact
1:02:37-1:04:22 Top 5 handlers
1:04:22-1:06:31 Closing
32 Comments
You can tell that Mike Miller fans out with the guest! Love it!
Absolutely great lesson #fatherhood
Shout out to Mitch! #CobraPride
We need Mike back with the basketball on his hands asap please!
"I got PAID. P-A-I-D" og Hardaway standin on that business
This fire I've never seen any podcasts get timmy.. this why OGs needed!! Many are called, but few are Chosen!! 💯 💯 💯 💪💪 💪..
#SRMATTERS
Excellent interview guys. Keep it up. Tim and Zo started this process with PatvRiley.Shout out for bringing up Keith Askins and his impact on this franchise!
Thanks for having the Man with the Killer Crossover!! Straight Bay Area Legend!!! Run TMC!! As a youngster we use to fight over number 10 because of him
Gotta get The Glove on here
Mitch definitely get the props he deserves…he was selected into the Hall of Fame, don’t get no better than that…Hall of Fame Mitch Richmond…I didn’t hear bro’s say anything about him being in the Hall of Fame…so they themselves didn’t give him his props like they should have, shit!
Listening to Tim Hardaway spill the locker room tea is more entertaining than a game of HORSE! 😂🏀
The best podcast straight out the gate. Gotta love it
Flavor in y' ear – great pod 🙏
Yall forgot about Trae Young on top 5 handles.
Great episode 🔥 I would love to see Shane Battier on this 💯
I am glad they gave Mitch Richmond his flowers, I grew up in Sac and "The Rock" was my first hero.
New fav pod .
Bro basketball pods easily boxed out almost everything I used to watch lol
Got the pleasure of meeting Tim at a TGI Friday's in Orlando years ago. The server said he was with his family, so we didn't wanna bother him so we told the server to buy him whatever drink he wanted. After they finished eating he walked over to our table and thanked us then talked for a minute or 2. Was a cool guy. We were HEAT fans from Miami since 88' so to meet our franchise player was awesome.
We always tell our other buddy who couldn't make it that day that we met Tim Hardaway. He's jealous cuz he jokes that we met Jim Hardaway..not Tim…lol
Never knew Tim was so damm funny! He needs to come back on.
Love the OGs. This pod is growing super quick. Shit is crazy. But I’m not NGL, Hardaway is a fucking legend. Couldn’t wait to watch THE FIRST 7 MINUTES WAS LOOONG. I almost left. Mike seems like he runs point on the pod, so to speak. Should of
Changed the pace a lil sooner. But
I’ve been smoking that Sativa tonight. As Perc would say CARRY THE HELL ON 🙏🏻
Chicago baby
Can you guys interview Jason Kapono
Nba live 98 was the 1st basketball game i ever played at 9 & tim hardaway was on the cover good times dude had 1 of the top 3 crossovers ever people dont mention him enough
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I still don’t understand why UD’s nickname is UD. Shouldn’t it be UH 😂 (sounds stupid) but I’ve never heard a nickname that was the first two initials of your first name. Interesting.
Great fuckin pod btw, yall killin the content space.
Whats up OG's? I was 10 years old when Tim Hardaway was ballong for the Heat!
What are the odds that the OG's could convince Posey, Tim Duncan, or Antoine Walker to come on the show
If no other college wanted you and if wouldn't be no where if not for utep, why did they pay you?
The original crossover ya dig from Constance,of Chicago….Two Fongers
I know it’s a lot of people saying they love the Miami stories but I’m not a Miami fan but I LOVE this podcast they are killing it. Like I just love basketball stories from my era. The OGs are the new standard
Killer Crossover☆The Hard•A•Way…
Pork beans and hotdogs took a mfer back frfr