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[Timpf] In a game the Lakers basically lost because of the possession battle (14-3 OREBs for PHX, 22-10 in second chance points), Dinwiddie/Prince played 50 minutes and Hachimura/Hayes played 32 minutes. Really difficult to understand the thought process.


I don’t understand why Darvin Ham loves Taurean Prince so much. He’s a fine bench player who is good for 15 minutes a game of hitting spot up threes, but Darvin Ham is giving him such an outsized role at the expense of better players.

by lovo17

25 Comments

  1. Granpa2021

    Darvin Hamm is a fuckin idiot, not too hard to understand.

  2. Medium-Antelope2926

    bottom line is that Darvin Ham considers Taurean Prince a PERFECT scheme fit for both his defensive and offensive systems. He’s always gonna get 30 minutes.

    I very much doubt Ham ever wanted to take Prince out of the starting lineup but likely has been forced by Pelinka as they hope to build up Hachimura’s trade value for the summer.

  3. lets_talk_basketball

    Everyone sees it.. Except for ham.

    Ham has a hard on for players he coached prior.

  4. KingNephew

    Royce had 10 rebounds while Rui/Reaves/D’lo/Dinwiddie/Prince had 12 combined. None of those guys can rebound consistently. Defensive personnel matters.

    The biggest issue is those guys, besides maybe Dinwiddie, react/rotate so slow on defensive rotations. And the high doubles “scheme” allows the opposing team to crash the glass with a 1-3 man advantage down low.

  5. Theingloriousak2

    This post is pure idiotic 

    Rui can’t rebound and Hayes has 0 iq you can’t play Durant and Booker with 2 bigs 

  6. I don’t think Rui is a good rebounder either so I don’t think it helps a lot to play bigger with him.

    Playing bigger with AD at the 4 might work but the spacing with Hayes is really problematic. This is why Wood is useful.

    This is also why Vanderbilt is so missed. He’s one of the only good rebounders on this team.

  7. Three 7 footers out there and we had a 3 guard lineup.

  8. pandaprincessbb

    Can someone please tell Hamas to wake the fuck up

  9. No_motivation5489

    They need to play rui and Hayes more when they’re playing teams with a grounded bruising big because they need to gang rebound. When they play teams with bigs who fight for position, instead of trying to out maneuver AD, they need to keep at least four guys in to try and help rebound. Seemed most of the game it was just lebron, ad, and either rui or one of dlo and reaves trying to rebound while the other two on the floor leaked out in transition. They also need to stop leaving the shooter and leaking out in transition after the shot because it usually leads to the long offensive rebounds they seem to give up multiple times every game.

  10. swankstar7383

    Aight Reddit who do you want for our coach next season?

  11. BritzlBen

    1 rebound in 50 minutes of Prince and Dinwiddie…

    7 rebounds in 71 minutes of Reaves and DLo…

    It’s just not good enough. Rebounding has to be a team effort, not “AD go box out and grab a board on one of the league’s best rebounders on your own after contesting the shot and also don’t let the ball get loose because the Suns role players will be the only ones crashing inside”.

  12. ValuableAssociate8

    I think Ham is a Lebron hater in disguise at this point.

  13. Trashpanda1980

    When Bol Bol, KD, and nurkic are on the floor and we put in 3 PG’s D’lo, dinwiddie Reeves, to match up with them, Of corse we are going to get out rebounded. What I dont understand is why was’nt Jaxon Hayes in the game gaurding bol bol? That explains why we only had 3 offensive rebounds the entire game and didnt get one untill late in the 3rd Q. Ham sux ass

  14. FalseAspect6678

    He is extremely bad at changing his plan mid-game.

    Today he was in a mess, as evidenced by his unintelligible comment “AD’s foul trouble is a part of reason why Max did not play in the first half”

  15. Spaghettibeach

    Something’s going on, it’s so weird to be this stubborn about strategy. This was a winnable game, at the very least should have been much closer than 10 points. I don’t understand allowing open 3s from “bad” shooters in a league filled with so much talent that chucking lots of 3s is now a reasonable game plan. It feels like wouldn’t have to change a single thing about what he does if the lakers switched to allowing 2s rather than 3s.

  16. camlawson24

    We need a 2nd player playing 25+ mins who commits to rebounding; Rui is not a consistent rebounder whatsoever despite being physically strong, Reaves and DLo grab them here and there but are erratic, and LeBron gets his but doesn’t have the energy anymore to crash the glass hard all game. Having two forwards playing big mins (Rui and Prince) who routinely have 2-4 rebound games just isn’t gonna get it done.

  17. If we put Rui and Jax in over Spencer and Prince, Dlo and Austin would have had to guard Booker or KD. Unless your going to cut Austins or Dlos minutes it wouldn’t work.

  18. HORSEthedude619

    Thought process would imply that Ham has thoughts.

  19. TorontoRaptors34

    If Griffin and Vaughn got fired so should Ham.

  20. lagunaisacoolguy

    Fucking Grayson “punchable face” Allen and Royce O’Neale buries 6 threes each. No team is gonna win against that. Fuck.

  21. Offensive rebound rates today:

    * Suns: 31.1%
    * Lakers: 7.5%

    That’s pathetic. Lakers are usually dead last in the NBA at about 20% but today was far worse than usual. For context, the average NBA team is around 25%.

    Taurean Prince is indeed a horrible rebounder for his size. But I don’t entirely blame him. There are actually a lot of horrible rebounders on the Lakers who get a lot of minutes, and the cumulative effect of all of them sucking is huge. Rui is bad for his size. D’Lo is awful. Reddish is bad. Hayes also bad for his size. Vanderbilt is decent, and his rebounding is one reason we need him back desperately. Same goes for Wood.

    A question that must be asked is: are these players usually this bad at rebounding? If so this problem is a roster issue. If not, does that mean it’s a coaching issue? Is Ham pushing his players to put in more effort on the boards like a good coach would?

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