Do Luka Doncic’s Numbers Need to Go Down for Mavs to Win? | Inside the NBA
Um so you were all excited about talking about this game on which side Miami or Dallas Dallas Ernie and Ken and Shaq can agree or disagree the Mavericks frustrate me so much because they should be so much better you know we make a big deal out of Luca’s numbers his numbers should be
Going down when you play with better players when you’re a great player the better players you play with your numbers should go down he’s got to do a much better job of getting rid of the ball using those other guys and he they’re playing the same way they played when
They didn’t have any Talent they got PJ Washington and and uh Daniel Gafford and d and Gafford but Luca as great as he is he’s got to learn to play without the basketball Ernie when you play and Shaq Shaq would know this better and kenon knows this also when you play with
Better players as a great player the game should be easier not harder your numbers should go down not up and his numbers are going up that’s why they’re not winning so Kenny he said you could agree or you could disagree which are you going with I would agree uh that the
Numbers should go down in in the sense that or they should be easier they should it could be easier I I would say this my I was blessed to play with the one of the greatest players ever played with Aima LAN I averaged 17 points in Sacramento I got to Houston I averaged
17.8 but it was the easiest 17.8 that I ever averaged in my life it was it was so easy because he creates so much attention and diversion that the guys have to guard you singularly or they have to leave you I don’t know I don’t know if it’s his numbers would go down
Chuck but I don’t know if his baskets are getting easier they’re not getting EAS because he’s not they’re not utilizing playing off people so I would agree that they’re not getting easier baskets he’s still getting the same amount but it’s not easier agree or disagree I disagree and I’ll explain in
A moment uh Kyrie and Luca they both have the same problems they do what great players do but they don’t do what the greatest players do I don’t think their numbers should go down if you going to have your numbers like that you should be able to do both and it’s been
Done Michael Jordan numbers didn’t get to go down when he started winning he was actually they did no he did yes they did go down he was able to do both Michael Jo Michael jonan was the leading scorer in the league when he was winning champion sh yeah but his numbers went
Down Shaq I was the leading scor in the league when I did the championship so let’s just say Luca’s number is 30 you can still average 30 and get other people involved that’s what I’m saying whether his numbers went down or not you can do both whatever Luca wants his
Number to be my number was 281 I’m gonna get my 28 no matter what but big shot Bob’s in the corner Rick fox is right there uh you know Brian Charles right there how did you decipher you do you personally how did you deer there’s a big difference the difference is people
Have to get you the ball Luca has the ball he’s got to get rid of the ball more often Michael got rid of the ball and no but I’m saying it’s a different thing like you had they had to give you the ball to be the great player you were
Luca starts with the ball he’s got to get off the ball go back and look at Michael Jord and and they talked about that in that documentary when he went from 37 to 31 I believe he did I just remember him cuz when he was averaging
37 38 points a game they were not win leag Underdog points out has he said his three highest scoring uh Seasons all before his first championship no question and he said that in the documentary cuz he said when Tex winner said to him Michael you’ve got to trust to other players and that’s
Going to pick it back on Kenny point if he trust those other guys they’re gonna be like you know what we know he’s going you got to be able to do both you gota be a you got to be able to he should be getting 30 Shaq instead of 36 whatever
Your number is you should be able to get that but you chck is right you still got to get other people in ball 359 and 10 is what he is averaging leads the league and scoring and in the last four games all triple doubles at least 37 points is
Too many 37 points is too many round it up you know 38 you know what you know what the other part about that people forget when they look at field goal attempts and they look at free throws when you take a when you get foued on a
Shot it doesn’t count as a free throw attempt I’m a field goal attempt so you take 20 shots and you get 15 free throws you still have taken eight more shots that are not being accounted for and so it is a bulk of shots so most people say
Oh he only took 22 shots or 20 no but if you shot 15 fet throws you probably shot 35 times because he got filed on the other ones that they do not count as attempts defense has been an issue with the Mavs lately uh one and five in their
Last six games allowing at least 120 in all of those let’s touch on Miami
Charles Barkley and Inside the NBA debate if Luka Doncic needs to play more off the ball in order for the Dallas Mavericks to start winning more.
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I agree Luka could share the ball more with his teammates. I would like to see Kyrie running some of the offenses. But in the last few games, I noticed that the other players(except Kyrie) don’t provide much in play-making or scoring. I don’t know if it is something with J Kidd’s tactics or some other reason. In some of the plays, when Luka passes the ball to other players, it comes back to him with less than 10 seconds on the shot clock, and at that time, he has to decide whether to attack the rim or go for 3. Today, we saw him showing confidence in Dante Exum in the ending few minutes, and Dante repaid it as well by making that critical 3-pointer in the last 2-3 minutes. I doubt it if Tim Hardaway would’ve made that shot. And hence, I don’t feel it’s entirely Luka’s fault in trying to get more buckets himself.
uhh have you seen what happens when luka passes to THJ??
How precisely does Luka scoring less to watch more bums miss open looks equal a higher seed? Its almost like its their defense and rotations. Wtf are they talking about
I think chuck is right, but we also have to factor that Luka has had 2 coaches in his career that utilizes a heliocentric offense. Kidd also doesn't have a lot of offensive schemes other than the luka/kyrie pick and roll so I dont blame Luka too much about ballhogging the possessions.
Getting other people involved … He third best in assist in the entire league 😮
Yep they need to… not resulting in wins
What are you saying. When Luka is not playing what happen. Yes nothing. This are just haters. Luka pass to them they pass back after zero bounce. Lol
So these geniuses are saying that Doncic’s 35-10-10 needs to go down before the Mavs can become a winning team. For discussion purposes, let’s say that his 10 assists result in 20 points. No 3s just 2s. That means Doncic is responsible for 55 of the team’s points, as well as getting others involved through his assists. Throw in a few 3s and that number goes up, obviously. The Mavs are not winning as they should because of everyone else, especially their terrible coach. None of it has to do with Doncic. Without Doncic, they are lottery team, period.
luka have always 10 assist he giving ball but guys dont shoot or play well so..
Its so funny to me how embiid and giannis have had a higher usage this season yet all people do is repeat how Luka has too much of the ball not to mention philly and bucks have a better roster
They just don’t make the shots. And there wide open ones. So the offense is good. They need to get a couple more stops and make a couple more shots in a row to get advantage over teams
Pj Washington and Hardaway have been shooting like sht. That’s the problem if they can start making shots they’re blowing teams out
Problem is Kyrie
Shaq was in a mood and denser than usual tonight
Charles Barkley should never comment on basketball. He’s too old, hateful, and racist to be on tv. I never heard him say that about Steph, KD or any Black player. The only difference is Luka is White. If Luka didn’t score, the Mavs would lose every game. They don’t score when Luka’s not on the court. When they were on a winning streak, he was averaging over 40 points a game. These bigots never watch a Maverick game. Kyrie is making his average but Tim Hardaway is scoring 2 points a game. American media racists just don’t want the European White boy to outscore everyone in the league.
This is the NBA, TNT, ESPN we hate White Europeans hour. Don’t listen unless you’re a racist too.
According to ESPN Stats and Info, Luka Doncic has his 4th straight game with a 35-point triple-double, that is the longest streak in NBA history.
So if Luka need to involve other people even more what his assists average should look like in the 20+ range?
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Guys you forget that when MJ did everything he had a bad team. When he started winning he had Grant and Pippen 2 guys that became elite quickly.
Luka still hasn’t got that! Kyrie is there but the rest are just role players. They still need a real force in the paint not just guys for alley hoops.
He got 10+ assist every game.. 🤘🏻
This may be the dumbest take I’ve ever seen. Tell me you don’t actually watch the Mavs without telling me you don’t watch the Mavs. This teams defense is the problem bro and it’s not even Luka who, by the way, isn’t a defensive liability anymore. (he ain’t a lock but he ain’t a traffic cone) the blame falls on Kidd for the horrific lineups and lack of situational basketball awareness. People forget that this narrative that Luka “holds the ball too long” must be thinking of the Mavs when Luka WAS the only option. He HAD to have the ball 24/7 because if he wasn’t scoring at least 35+ every game they were losing.
The Mavs need to improve their defensive philosophy because they have the defensive assets but aren’t having them at their fullest potential and that, like I said, falls on J Kidd. This team needs to be disciplined more defensively if they want any chance at making noise or even getting to the playoffs. But Lukas numbers have nothing to do with their recent skid because the only way you are a competitive team is if Luka is hot. He’s a multiplier to this team and him being hot isn’t just scoring. When he’s hot he creates SOOO many opportunities for this team and if the team can’t benefit from that then how the hell is that on him. The Mavs play statistically worse when Luka is off the court. ESPECIALLY if Kyrie AND Luka are both off. Leads the league in assist since the all star break but his numbers need to go down….absolutely crazy lmao
I love Chuck but anyone who thinks the problem with the Mavs is scoring points/who is scoring points has lost their damn mind. They cannot defend
These dudes are racist against whites. Luka puts up better numbers than Jordan and lebron and they act like it’s a bad thing. Dogshit analysis
lol at these literal bums who couldn’t play for shit criticizing the best player in the world
I'm surprised by Chuck's diverse knowledge. I had no idea he will know anything about Lucas Numbers, and yet he appeared to be math geek all that time. 😅
Jordan and lebron are ball hogs and these clowns never made these same comments
Shaq what are you talking about?! His numbers have to at least come down a notch and trust his teammates more.
Heat were the better team.
First of all, just fire Jason Kidd. And the defense is the issue they have. If they think Mavs got great players, then Kidd has to rest Luka more so that he can run for defence as well and just get rid of THJ. For offense, everyone has to be more consistent. Understand sometimes that you are not feeling it but gotta make open shots. Look at whole game, a lot of open shots are missed by Mavs.
The mavs have two of the best offensive players in the league but at the same time they have two of the worst defensive players in the league!
Thj being more consistant and the teams overall defense. Thj+luka+kyrie is weak defensively
Firstly, Dallas' offense is not the problem but the defenses and secondly MJ his numbers never went down and he won 6 titles with his team… Even Lebron never really changed his numbers and he won 4 titles… I think what he says is nonsense. The team has a strong offense, no one can deny that, but the defense is just not good enough. They should have focused more on finding strong defensive players this year…! I just don't think it's okay to lose sight of the obvious and instead blame a superstar because his numbers are too high……Luka really does everything to ensure that every player gets the ball and he does his own points he's not a selfish player…it's just the poor work due to not being able to recognize that the defending is the problem…They should just start looking for players who bring something to the team and not replace one averagely good player with the next one…
Soft takes. As a point guard, your first job is to be a threat to the opposing team.