Does Victor Wembanyama DESERVE Defensive Player of the Year?

Does Victor Wembanyama DESERVE Defensive Player of the Year?

Oh my God we’re recording you guys didn’t even notice my background you haven’t even commented I did it for you guys what I I can only see channing’s side eye his one eye oh that’s it that’s all I can see your hair looks nice Ally

Oh thanks oh you can’t see it because oh you know why you can’t see it because you guys are on the screen actually here in real person in real life oh it’s fine you’re blown up behind me it’s great um welcome into this edition of road tripping Ali Clifton me of course his

Name is Channing fry and Richard Jefferson Richard’s in a suit came dressed on um was on TV today yeah we have a thing called called [ __ ] post tapes let me just say this for all the future people out there don’t tell somebody 30 minutes through show hey we have two post tapes after

The show one one of the reasons why it’s a little fun is because we only have a little gap between the next show NBA Countdown that we’re doing so it’s like hey I know you guys got like a 90 minute break but we’re gonna take 20 minutes of

That and you’re like well I was supposed to eat or or I got a podcast that I told so I’m a little fired up so if my energy is a little sideways it’s because I’m wearing a suit I don’t have a drink I’m gota go Channing is covering the drinks

For you pleas which Richard didn’t you have enough haven’t you had enough drink I’m struggling I’m wait you where’d you go shellbags no no no one of the volley booies had a uh they had uh a birthday party last night so got no chosen huh

Tight no no it wasn’t it was more of a shot whiskey night than it was like a wine dinner night you know what I’ve been getting into bourbon lately bourbon on the Rocks has been dude it’s I get it it’ll get you where you gotta go I I

Might have I might have mixed alcohols that that was where stupid you know in that moment you look good Richard what you on OIC no you need to clear your throat maybe you could get the same procedure done that Channing did let’s transition we should get an update how did your

Procedure go Channing for all of those that want to know this is what was pulled out of Channing throat yeah oh yeah sque you gotta sque it’s a couple it’s about three four millimeters so here’s the scar there it is dude they really had to open that [ __ ] up first of all channy

That is not healthy I feel like that’s what richest Comet was like that came out of your do you remember last week when I was pointing at that gigantic ball right here it’s not there anymore it’s just swollen it was huge it’s like this big honestly I would rather keep

That bulge than to have mark across your neck looking like got it’s not going to look like this forever it’s this still has the stitches on oh he’s fine it still I listen it still has the stitches and then it’s actually in a crease so

When a swelling goes down uh and I gain some weight it’ll just roll over into itself hi Margo come here where did you get off OIC how’s oh my God how’s Margo sure Margo come over yeah this one had uh had to have emergency ey surgery God she hi

Margo yeah are you doing you say hi to everybody how you feel your hair’s so pretty cookies what kind of cookies couple cookies Snicker doodle me go go lay down go look at Barbie what you Snicker doodle me put that on a t-shirt Snick how old she’s good that was crazy

Yeah she basically you know she had cataracts when she was born so she was blind they had to have surgery she doesn’t have lenses on her eyes so like the pressure in her eye is regulated by like um medicine and just kind of her body figuring out and she was at a

Basketball game with friends and somebody was throwing a ball and it popped her in the eye and it jostles some things and so imagine you know your body regulates your eye girth or whatever it is in the back of your head so imagine having the worst uh

Headache ever for a 11y old girl and then they had to get a needle in her eye and uh relieve all that pressure and so two days later she’s shout out OSU KCI Institute if you ever need some something with eyes it is no joke now I

Don’t know I couldn’t do what she did me in the neck no big deal needles in the eye nah no what a champ what a champ two days later that’s incredible yeah well she’s she got to chill out right but she she can’t put context on got to get her

Glasses but yeah we you know [ __ ] life is life can’t always be peaches and cream oh but when it is all right man let’s talk let’s talk some bassball don’t worry about what the [ __ ] I’m doing and your health and Richard’s hangovers I will say that God

I know we all know this hangovers are not great the older you get whether it’s a day older minutes older hours like whatever why why does that happen someone needs to give an act your bodyism yeah your body doesn’t recover it doesn’t but it’s so fun when you’re

Doing it well it’s always it’s always that way you just don’t but I think for me I I’m normally pretty good today was a tough one because it was like still got to take the kids to school still didn’t come in here got a long day we I

You know it was it was just still yeah so I’m struggling I’m struggling no matter what I do no no matter what medicine or concoctions I have it’s like I got to give myself till 6 p.m. the next day and then I’ll be fine it used

To be 3 it used to be 11 it used to be like a nap in some spicy food in a beer and I’m good n homie it’s like 6 PM your boy got the shakes till 6 burrito and a beer you’re good to go like what are we doing tonight you start

Asking that question at 11 11 A.M what are we doing tonight I’m a little beat up but hey we going out again yep okay I’ll see you where we going gentlemen this is a great segue into basketball chanting as you have asked to talk about um because someone who never

Had a hangover and you guys have some of the best stories when y’all would go out and then have to meet the Bell rise to the occasion wait room whatever it was at 7 am with your former teammate LeBron um he became the only player over

The weekend we saw it to score 40,000 um I was there the one thing I will say what were you doing there working s our s our good friend perk lurk big perk big perky lurky sat with him for the first half but having said that Braun had

About three possessions where he sat on Seven Points um and he needed nine of course the way in which our society commun communicates consumes information they would rise with their cell phones to capture the moment then they would all sit together with the ball went the

Other way they would rise back not one person watch that I feel like live it was all through a freaking cell phone screen wild insane 40,000 it’s who we are also 40,000 I was trying to put this in context for my children please do it I

Think I think I said here’s how many shots I made right here’s how many shots I attempt tempted okay and I played 13 years it was like 7,000 points so 8,000 points and I was like Hendrick times that by five he was like okay what do you mean I go Hendrick

Imagine if I just ran into the gym and shot it 30 times every game for 20 straight years I still would not have 40,000 points if I shot 20 times a game for 20 straight years I maybe still wouldn’t have 40,000 points no and also what’s [ __ ] up

Nobody talks about he’s a scorer they devalue what he’s done well it’s his longevity [ __ ] there’s nobody else that’s had longevity like that also he’s 40 and he’s still averaging 25 oh well this league is this and he’s more efficient now than everyone else in the NBA which is a

Fact I looked up this crazy fact because I knew I getting on today he is shooting from the rim 65% I think he’s top three in the league at forward position from the three-point line I think he’s shooting what is it like 40 which is one of his highest ever

Okay also for people who go oh you know teams Just Jack and do this or that the three-point shot this year has actually evened out to a mid-range in layup because more people are just shooting to shoot and more people are are a lot of teams are shooting to shoot but more

Teams are relying on that mid-range like the Clippers like Phoenix and having success so everyone’s like shoot the three no mid-range layup free throw it’s changing now the league is going back to the three-tier level where the mid-range is just as valuable as a three-point shot and LeBron is still averaging 25

Points so the I the you know you start seeing all the things going around the fact that he scored more points than Larry and Magic combined is disgusting it’s disgusting insane that like the fact that the fact that he’s pass did he pass magic and

Assist yeah he yeah he p no he’s not second he’s not second I I think he’s fourth it’s Mark rebounds no like rebounding numbers he he still got some ways to go 30th or something ways to go before no before we start talking about him with the all

Times with the all time like 30th Richard no but my point this and and people this people might say LeBron could score 50,000 points he could score 50,000 points now hear me out hear me out what I am saying is this if he was O

Okay with us us a decline if he was like I want to play five more years if he wanted to go Tom Brady and say I want to play till I’m 45 years old that’s what I want to do I think given let’s say each

Year he lower you know it goes to 25 to 22 to 18 to whatever it is I think he could I think he could come close to 50 if you wanted to keep playing yeah until until until the doors until the doors were or until the wheels fall off if he

Wanted to do that I think he could come close to 50,000 which is [ __ ] nuts Nick yeah Nick Wright made a good point he goes KD is one of the best if not the most Unstoppable scorer we could agree in the league when he wants to he goes

Right now KD would have to play a minimum of seven more years in average 30 to get to where LeBron is and that’s just to get to where LeBron is today so imagine that so today braon is still scoring let’s say he stops it this year and it’s at

4500 KD would have to play seven and a half Seasons almost eight more seasons in average 30 to get to those many points and this is coming from a guy that just learned how to shoot but it’s but it’s the same it’s the same for the

Finals or like I mean for the playoffs he had the playoff record and you’re going to have to play you’re going to have to go to 10 NBA finals and average 30 that’s what you’re going to have to do which he’s already at 50 thou or he’s approaching 50,000 with the

Postseason yeah can you imagine this somebody gets a 30-point game in the finals and you’re like dude that dude baled out this dude was getting 40o triple doubles on the regular and they’re like oh well team is really good you’re like wait [ __ ] what you know how

Hard it is get in the court I have some career uh numbers for Braun with NBA ranks are you ready for this because we did top five leading into his 40,000 Point um by the way that other stat that he got from zero to 10,000 in the same

Amount of games as he did from 30 to 40,000 did you guys see that yeah8 games yeah psychotic the games the game but it’s but it all I think I feel like each Gap was or each like increment was like 30 like6 did any of them hit I’m say from Z to

10,000 he did it in 368 from 10 to 20K he did it in 358 20 to 30 he did it in 381 30 to 40 368 come on man that’s insane you talk about consistency come on well can you talk where’s the Olympics in this too because not like he’s not

Tired these are all consideration rebounds was on this but it’s 30th 30th 30 31st games played where do you think he is in top 10 uh one seventh 1,472 games played minutes I don’t know if I had that many points minutes number one in minutes number one in minutes he’s

Not number two at 55,8 75 first in points this was before by the way the Clipper game which happened two games before the 40 you’re fine yeah how many assists does he have and where’s he at Fourth he already said it yeah where’s he at 10,821 what does uh what does John

Stockon have 15,000 15 God damn and then how about this one he is top eight in what defensive category Steels Steels yeah he’s eighth at 20251 who’s number one doing [ __ ] out there John Stockton and Ste Ste is John sck number one in steals all time that’s a good question is he um

Anyways wow lots of numbers lots of buckets lots of points he’s pretty good at basketball yeah pretty good at basketball to round that out I mean transition into Kevin Durant uh because it was the Kevin Durant show especially in overtime last night Janny we were talking about this game he scored 35 uh

Beat the Nuggets on the road in overtime 117 107 they were without Devon Booker as well uh KD outscored Denver’s entire team in that overtime period he also passed Dirk on the all-time three-pointers list in the win um do you guys think that Kevin Durant is still

The NBA’s most deadliest player at any given time yes no yeah at any given time not not all not at all any given night on any given any given night now I’m not saying that I’m not diminishing KD but I watched that whole game it was an

Amazing game and I was getting ready to tweet Denver got levels because I think Phoenix was up nine they they were playing like [ __ ] in that fourth quarter I think they one of the worst fourth quarter teams in this new year and KD the Laker Denver game live on Saturday

They do have levels and the levels are insane it’s ridiculous whether they won or or lost last night their levels are insane continue it’s wild because they’re like oh you need us to oh you want this oh you you want this eight of nine down the stretch you want us to

Every shot and stop you from getting any kind of bucket got you got on the well here’s minutes here’s yes here’s why I say no here’s why I say joic over KD KD can take over a game when it comes to his scoring and I think his defense is

Underrated I think when you have joic his ability to stop momentum immediately three layup like if somebody’s on a fast break easy Outlet passes like he is the most Unstoppable guy in the league I just don’t know if KD commands every aspect of the game as

Much as jokic do I think KD is faren away a better offensive threat but I think in defensive but like scoring wise but I think yic is like the best game controller in the in the NBA right now I agree what was the question again Ally if I think that the NBA’s most

Deadliest player is still Kevin Durant on any given deadliest yeah joic he gonna get you a layup you’re you’re down is about to be the MVP joic is about to be the MVP so he’s gonna do that every single what I know I just realized so there’s

Been this thing going around about how like people are graffitiing like the downtown LA area I didn’t realiz that it’s right outside the window I’ve seen these pictures online and then I look right outside these [ __ ] add no okay okay but this brings me to my next

Point did you idiots by not you did you see the idiots that broke into uh the Clippers new Arena and we like ready you didn’t see it these dudes were FaceTime these dudes were recording themselves like breaking stuff fire extinguish running through it going up to the rafters recorded themselves here I’ll be

A great host for you go check out Richard’s Tik Tok or his Instagram there’s a video of it he breaks it down side by side back to Kevin Durant okay it’s the whiskey is still sideways in me I’m sorry I apologize to all of our listeners I love you guys you

Guys have all been there so just stick with us Kevin Durant’s pretty good at basketball I think for instance Jason Tatum late game he’s struggling to like I’m won’t say struggling 13% 133% is what he’s shooting from but Kevin Durant you go one for flat and that man just

Get you a bucket you go one for flat i w to be tell I want to be be very honest there is not a player that I feel less equipped to guard in a one4 flat than Kevin Durant because there’s nothing think about this yeah Kyrie he might

Juke you he might do all this stuff fine ever I’m gonna Force you downhill I’m not going to give up a three whatever Kevin Durant if he wants to shoot a three he’s going to get a three right there’s nothing that it’s he can step back he’s seven feet he’s the length so

I look at that and to say that there’s there’s not a player in my opinion that I have played against that if you’re in a one 14 flat you’re really gonna what do you do there’s nothing there’s nothing to do LeBron right oh we’ll live with a the three or maybe

I’ll get into his D it don’t matter with KD he steps into it and it’s just like it’s a wet ball that that that just to me because of his height his ability to get it off even if I play the best defense he can still knock it down de’s

Defense was solid but last night but like oh yeah I’m seven foord Aaron Gordon’s like Aaron Gordon 610 with a 40 inch vertical or 69 with a 40 in vertical he didn’t Kevin Durant didn’t even see him no okay we’ll talk about the east in a second but coming off of

That conversation when you look at the top of the West 20 games to go you got the Timberwolves holding that number one seed you got OKC right be half a game behind them in number two Denver a game behind the number one seed who finishes one two three what’s the order look like

After 20 games when it’s all sudden and done who’s your top three seeds uh I’m gonna say I’m gonna say Denver one uh Minnesota 2 OKC 3 because I think what’s happened is Denver sees the end of the season and they understand we need to win these games but you know what on

That same point before I even say it if they’re one two or three they may wonder who’s six right now I don’t have my [ __ ] out oh I just looked um Pelicans pelic yeah they may stay three why be one and you gotta play the Lakers or Golden State n homie you’re

Cool I’m cool play down the stretch I think um so six I’m sorry Pelicans are five and a game behind them in the six seed are the Suns and then the kings are seven Dallas eight La n Warriors I might be one or two listen I’ll take my chances with the

Kings I’ll take my chances with Dallas dude I thought Dallas would be better after the break their defense is shitty but I never put into consideration when you get two guys from losing teams it’s going to take them a while to get used to playing actual winning basketball which they’ve said

I’ve not played winning basketball my whole career so like that’s one thing I forgot to bring um I would say Denver OKC or Denver Minnesota OKC I’m gonna say OKC I think those boys really want the number one seed I think they want the number one seed from a

Standpoint of like they look it I I feel like they’re looking at it as a let’s check the box right like when you’re have a young really good team you’re like hey we want to get the number one seed we want to win a playoff game we

Want to get to the finals we you know what I’m saying like there’s certain steps along the way that you want to achieve and I think those boys want to be the number one seed I don’t think Denver gives a [ __ ] if they’re the one number one seed right if it comes down

To the last last game of the year and is OKC gonna play all their guys or is Denver gonna play all their guys I think OKC would play their guys I think Denver would concede the two seed or the three seed I think they would concede because

They know that they have those levels where I think OKC is very very adamant about it and I think Minnesota is going to try extremely hard I don’t I think I if I were to say I think it’ be OKC Denver than Minnesota in the top three

You know I just sucks I’m not bought I want to I’m not bought in by OKC or Minnesota or the Kings I’m just not let me just ask you this and it has nothing to do necessarily with the lake but we’re we’re coming off that matchup with

The Lakers on Monday between the Thunder and OKC in terms of experience because I think that’s the biggest thing when it comes to the Thunder and the postseason do you think they’ll be able to handle themselves when they get there from that like can they win around

Can they yeah I don’t if they play the Lakers here’s what I’m gonna say and I’ve said this I think the Lakers have zero chance to win a championship but to me OKC is GNA take a game or two to to figure out adjustments how to play physicality different reing

You know this isn’t the regular season we’re going to need you to do what you do even better now to ask that of that young team is a lot we’ve asked them to be their best version of themsel all year and it goes hey that was good we

Need plus five no because right now you’re seeing LeBron and AD at a seven or eight they could turn that [ __ ] up to 1112 Okay C so let’s just go from the four teams in the play do we are are even like let’s go five do we think OKC can beat

Sacramento yes do we think OKC can beat um the Pelicans I think it’ be good I don’t I like the Pelicans I like the Pelicans okay like them but I’ll say yes they can do you think that they could beat Dallas yeah oh yeah oh yeah okay and now

The one thing that we’re gonna say is that the Lakers haven’t played great Golden State hasn’t played great but the experience Factor that’s what we would give to them over that so if we’re really do you think if the only teams that we don’t think OKC can beat are the

Clippers they won’t play them in the first round you think they can beat Minnesota I don’t think so they well they won’t play them in the first round and they won’t play Denver in the first round so those are the three that they won’t play then there’s a whole list of

Teams that are within their within that eight spot that to the plan the Suns can they beat the Suns no yeah oh this will be interesting yeah well that’s what that’s what’s gonna make it fun is that yeah very rarely do you see a number one seed or even a

Number two seed that everyone’s like yeah what we saw with Utah Minnesota is the new Utah no but Utah but Utah they won the first round round got in the second round and then [ __ ] the bed and then they broke it up right but they still won around they still W we’re

Saying OKC ain’t gonna win around I don’t think this year they do I think next year they do okay I really want to get to the Cavs Boston game but hang on because you kind of touched on it Channing so I’ll just stay out west the Mavericks what we’re

Seeing from them post Allstar the last ranked team defensively since the break how much does it fall on Jason k how much is there more to this Luca uh doners they just lost to the Pacers by 17 13710 on Tuesday Luca joined Oscar and Russell Westbrook as the only

Players to notch three straight 35 Point triple doubles but Dallas has lost all three of those games they’re now six and six when uh Luca has a 30-point triple double you’ve added two pretty I would say substantial pieces so instead of looking at kba and Powell and do things

By Community you’ve added two big guys that now are going to take up a big bunch of that time I thought PJ Washington would be a little bit more aggressive but when you play with Luca and Kyrie and they’re going you gonna get the scraps so he’s

Had a six game he’s had a 10 game he’s had a 14 game so he’s having solid games but like he’s not really making an impact right now that I thought he would and Tim Hardway Jr just has hasn’t been shooting the ball very well if he not

Shooting the ball well you’re just going to double team Luca and take your chances right because most of them do things on their own you’re like I’m living with Tim Hardway beating me I’m living with PJ Washington and then guess what because lucaas double teamed he’s

Not as engaged as much on the defensive end we’re going to go at him every single time and now you’re in rotation and you’re trying to teach rotations and energy and playoff levels and culture to guys that have been on teams Gafford came off a team that’s won nine games

All season he don’t know what the [ __ ] winning looks like or smells like yeah Wasington Charlotte PJ That’s like [ __ ] talking about like D’Angelo Russell and D’Angelo and talking about you know torian Prince these guys are additions to what they are doing right they’re additions to what they’re no I’m agreeing with you

Yes it takes them a while I think their problems are deeper than a couple of guys they collectively I think Le uh Kyrie and Luca it’s not a great defensive back court right but it’s a lead of offensively and so when you start looking at who you’re G to play around

Them Tim Hardway Jr he’s not Elite defensively Lively has helped them a lot with what they do and they’ve got some other pieces but they do they do need to collectively improve I think that they can do something if they can get stop having the worst defense in the league

And kind of get to just be 20th be 20th don’t be L be L I used to hate that because I’m slow don’t be last i’m like [ __ ] I’m last Every Day I’m consistent who would win in a race between you two Richard God it’s not

Even close are you joking really I don’t even like to I don’t even like getting the runs when I take dumps more or less run Richard is a runner Richard runs Richard why are you looking at me like that cuz I a really wild question that’s almost disrespectful to thank you channy

Thank you like I’m a sprinter I I not not you’re a sprinter I’ve sat in those workouts you are a sprinter Richard runs a lot oh first okay yes you you said in those workouts huh how old was I we G to throw the age out there no I’m

Saying I was win a title it’s like I was 36 and I played 36 I’m not trying to win I’m not trying to win Sprints at at 36 it’s not I’m not I wasn’t trying to win that [ __ ] but you tell me to Sprint you tell me to Sprint

I would like to say that in my Prime I was hear me out in my Prime I was probably top three top four fastest in my position really no well remember we were we were a fast break team with Jason kid we were [ __ ] gone we were

Sprinting three I’m saying I said that I was top three or four in my position four no top three or four I’m saying top three or four fastest I’m not gonna disrespect did you ever run track yes what were your races uh well I did I was

100 200 400 and okay say less okay yeah I’ll give it to you then yeah like I’m talking about I got the I got the steps I got I got the burst I got the quick are you a heel to toe or run on your toe

Come on come on man come on now come on now don’t do that like just go ti ti in New Jersey Net fast break and watch us go 94 feet there’s difference between running a fast break and sprinting okay it’s very see right um that’s a that’s a secret don’t tell anybody I

Don’t know if you guys answered my question is that a Jason kid defensive problem or a team problem team problem team problem team problem who’s the defender on that team Fair thanks for answering the question um all right guys we uh have been talking about the Cavs

How about the uh Kelsey Brothers love them I mean can I tell you too I was watching obviously they were Courtside poor guys were right behind JB damn near half the entire time JB would just stop right there but nonetheless Travis was standing up the entire time every time

They would do something well I was like now that is a fan like that love the spirit Cleveland all yall are the same areys and look I I would say this about Cleveland there’s not a ton it’s not you know it’s not La it’s not this

It’s not like one of these cities but the people from Ohio in any relation they they show up and support the Cavs who uh who was the the MMA fighter what’s his name steep steeve steeve he would show yeah St B would show up all the time to the games there would always

Be like if you’re an Ohio person I get people that I didn’t even know from like celebrities and random people come up to me that are from Ohio and [ __ ] give so much love so I not you go to Ohio this summer before the bugs come out

Would I just for one two days two days Richard I would I honestly I would like to go there and catch a game no lie can I tell you that I invited you guys to my lake property and channing’s reaction was there’s too many damn mosquitoes [ __ ] with mosquitoes I live

In Portland I didn’t know it wasn’t in Ohio my lake property it’s in Michigan I didn’t know the Midwest idiots I look I understand and I know you grew up on the border and all that stuff but I’m saying this I did not for the whole time you

Told me about it I remember seeing pictures when you bought it I thought it was in Ohio no idea no idea Richard lives in Beach and I live in a city of bridges and rivers why in the God’s [ __ ] good Green Earth would we go to

A lake with bugs and MTH first of all first of all first of all I’m not gonna let him disrespect I’m not I’m offended actually I am let it was almost as disrespectful as you asking who would win in a race between CH of dis almost as disrespectful people

Wanted to know no they know I would tell no that’s why I take the ball out I’m the slowest first of all the pontoon boat the pontoon boat the drinking the food I I I jet skis I I I’m not gonna hate on that Richard I have all that

Here and I’m only two and a half hours away buddy and allly got a baby pontoon boat it don’t even have a system damn why are you hating bro got the 18f footer I got the 24 not even true to it does have a like just goodbye Steph

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There are our under arour game Changers of the week which players or coaches impressed you the most in the last week I’m gonna say no no no no no no real talk I players or coach I’m gonna say the the Cavs cause stru and what d uh dwade did

That to me so you gotta say it right Dean Wade Dean Wade D dwade dwade Dean D he’s still dwade I’m giving him his like are p no put those fourth quarters for the Cavs right like 20 20 point and a quarter stre with a halfcourt shot like those

Two guys I I gotta give them some love because to be on a great team and then to be contributing in an individual Manner and playing out of body which both of them did you got to give them some love uh you know what it’s hard to

Like them right now but they’re grown on me the Milwaukee Bucks like yeah they are they’re they’re [ __ ] winning like maybe we roasted duck Rivers too soon but they’ve been beating it they beat Minnesota they’ve had some big wins I think they’re six and0 so it’s

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Question no we’re going to talk about it first I was no we’re going to do this first sorry all over the place um did you no that sportico just released their list of NBA team valuations for this season what is a sportico sportico is a a company that puts out their their

Valuations for the most valuable teams and they have NBA ones and then they have sports teams so I want to see if you guys can guess the five top NBA teams Nick I want the orders too because you’re wrong Richard and then I want also overall Sports Nick so let’s start

With the um NBA no Golden State golden state is one Knicks Nicks is two Lakers three yeah I don’t why did you say I was wrong I said Nicks golden I wanted order oh my bad my bad my bad uh I don’t want to say Miami nope

Nope uh Brook no can’t be Brooklyn nope Dallas Chicago Chicago is five oh wow what’s four the Warriors are Phoenix nope Clippers no they paid two billion for those bad boys too Dallas D nope no idea it’s in the East Toronto Boston Celtics Boston Boston [ __ ] the Warriors are valued at

8.28 billion the Bulls at number five 4.83 let’s go name one [ __ ] let’s go bottom five starting from 26 to 30 Memphis Utah Charlotte no Utah’s higher than that I bet yep Utah’s not on that list yeah Memphis number 29 oh God Charlotte 27 Atlanta New Orleans New Orleans is 30th yeah I

Believe any nobody got time for that what about Detroit trash no Detroit’s no Detroit no Detroit’s not two more one East or one what both in the west both in the west and both playoff teams OKC oh OKC is 26 and Min no Minnesota Minnesota

28th wild okay this is this is fun too though overall of all sports franchises the NBA has three of the top five so obviously you know it goes in that order Warriors Nicks Lakers 234 who is the most valued sports franchise no Cowboys Cowboys Cowboys so this Cowboys

Are number one the Yankees are five so this is my question you said the Warriors are worth eight billion Warriors are 8.28 yep and who’s number two the Knicks 7.4 okay okay the Lakers 7.3 Cowboys 9.5 watch watch this [ __ ] see this is the difference this is the difference

With the Warriors and I say this respectfully like they’re gonna always be like San Francisco they’re always going to be it’s going to be I’m very curious as to when the change happens like the Lakers are always the Lakers the Celtics are always the Celtics the Yankees are always the Yankees the

Cowboys are always the Cowboys like we’ve seen a great run from Golden State and they’ve always been a high valued franchise just because of their location and and and the fan base I’m just curious like the Steph Curry effect right the Steph the Steph Curry effect when that changes

And I just I’m Cur I’m curious to that like I don’t think that they are the number one from a standpoint of they built a new Arena they’re generating so much money I just don’t know if that’s a long last I don’t know if they’re a legacy franchise I don’t that’s what I’m

Saying all the teams that we hear up there it it does it doesn’t matter like Yankees our kids our grandfathers our great-grandfathers th those are the Warriors I’m curious to see if they can sustain this I don’t think they’re the Cowboys America’s team I don’t you know

What I’m saying so it’s like you think are you surprised that the Yankees are five on that list no they haven’t been very good for a while they have not been good for a while I I it been solid but not like Yankees dominant their brand is

So crazy amazing it doesn’t even make sense like a Yankees fitted is the Hat there’s no other hat to wear and how do they do these rankings because I wonder it’s like the Warriors play 41 games they play 41 games at home um the the Yankees play and they have they

Can fit triple what the Warriors fit in and they play 10 and what they play they play 160 games so half those at home right like think about that so it’s like evaluation yeah but not as many people go to like the Tuesday Mata game they

May have like you know a double header agreed but there but but what I’m saying is that even what they get on that Tuesday mat would fill in an NBA arena toally how about this how about that all 32 NFL teams made the top 100 with all

But two the Jaguars and Bengals and additionally all 30 NBA teams made the top 100 Revenue sharing yeah yeah I’m just I’m I’m curious as to like how the Yankees are how the Yankees are below the NBA franchises do they subtract the amount of contracts they give out to their estimated value yeah

That’s because the Yankees are giving out crazy and other than Aaron judge who is that big name Richard are you sleepy no bro I’m WR um it’s interesting that’s no I’m curious how they do the because I’m like I always thought like the Yankees were Yankees Cowboys again how much their

Valuations of their of their overall brand yeah those are like generational Brands I would even say Red Sox right like these things that just had like we you know one of the one of the jokes about the Warrior fans is that they a lot of them just showed up in the last

Decade yeah you know and you wonder kind of like when LeBron when he leaves when he leaves when Steph does retire in three four years I’m I’m curious what happens to the brand because LeBron leav the Lakers to change the Lakers yeah Fair we just have a couple

More topics uh we got to talk about Cavs Boston how much was that I mean you mentioned it obviously Dean Wade his performance in the 4th 20 they were down 22 to start the fourth fourth quarter the Boston Celtics had 11on 11 in a row Jason Tatum called it a mentality loss

How much does that follow fall on uh Joe Missoula uh how much does this say about the Cavs and I do want to know do you think the Cavs or bucks will finish with the higher seed when it’s all said and done right now they’re neck and neck in

The Eastern Conference two and three obviously I think the Bucks will finish High I think I think these type of things happen if you were like hey if we lose it’s CU Dean Wade makes 50,000 threes in a quarter we’re living I you just who are you saying like did Dean

Wade beat us or did [ __ ] Donovan Mitchell beat us like or any you know I know he didn’t play but any of those others I just think again these things happen uh we talked about the the Cavs needing a big win that was a big win for

Them I think they’re going to constantly they need to constantly get these big wins um to show me that they can compete when it comes to the playoffs because then we saw them the other night they lost to the Knicks with no and the Knicks had nobody

Yeah I I think the Cavs because they want to get home court I like teams that want to fight for I think Milwaukee I think they want to fight for home court but I think there’s a level of confidence that comes former Champions like they get it they

Want to be healthy they’re not going to be pushing through uh meanwhile yeah I think I think the Cavs will finish number two I they need to win round they if they they need to Cavs Cavs are a team that needs to win around back or else that

Thing gonna get if they don’t win around listen bye there’s no point in doing it bye you can’t win around yeah around well I look at it in the sense of two years ago they lost double playin games then last and they were fourth at the All-Star break last year they’re the

Four five bad matchup you know they they get they got swept they got swept they got dropped by the Knicks Nicks embarrassing this year look their team is healthy they’re cooking they’re they all these positive things you gota win around you gotta win around and that but

That’s also part of building that it takes time to build these things and so um they got all the talent they’re they’re they’re the team that I think if I had to say which team has the most pressure to win a first round matchup oh [ __ ] I I think it would be them

For sure I understand that Zion Williamson has to make an All-Star Game first I get it in terms of what he said but will we see Zion Williamson in the dunk contest if he makes the allstar game I he should be an allar Zion should be Zion should have been an All-Star like

Mind you injury so I don’t blame that stuff but if if someone told you that Zion would lock in and he’d be a 10-time All-Star no one would bat an ey like yeah so yeah if he does what he’s supposed to he should be an Allstar he

Should be there I love that for him I think if Zion does it and let’s say Obviously Mack is there let’s say jaah makes an All-Star I wouldn’t say he would do it let’s say I don’t know somebody else in a Three-Point Contest like uh Trey Murphy you know somebody like that they

Would do it like you just need one or two allar to say hey I’ll do it before you get it I think it would be funny if LeBron was in it at 40 be hilarious genius Channing be like hey I’m 40 and I’m up in here dunking with y’all young fellas

What if they had Zion and Braun Dunk Contest like Stephan uh Sabrina just a two-man game wouldn’t that be fun they dunk completely different Braun is a one foot dunker which would make and he does like the power dunk where Zion’s a two foot one two power big ass Dominique

Type dun whatever you like yeah I got to I work there Ally good Lord I was testing you um okay Defensive Player of the Year Victor wama [ __ ] no okay I’m Gonna Give You numbers channy I’m Gonna Give You numbers to back it up what is your bubble doing

Thumbs up or thumbs down I can’t see it it was going down all right when he is on the floor San Antonio has the sixth best defensive efficiency rating when he’s off they rank dead last Rudy goar 33.3 minutes per game 12.8 rebounds 2.1 blocks point6 steals Victor 28.8 minutes

Per game 10.3 rebounds 3.4 blocks 1.3 steals I’m not giving defensive player of the year because he gets a lot of blocks to the [ __ ] worst team in the league he gets they’re 24th it’s not his fault it’s not his fault stop stop saying that the best player on the team

It ain’t always his fault I’m not saying that they’re a good team but why are we going to give him a war we give him Rookie of the Year and defensive player of the year when again Chad hren Chad hen’s on the number one [ __ ] seed Minnesota has Rudy goar they’re the

Number two seed and it’s like well look at his playing with Jaden McDaniels R playing with Jaden McDaniels come on bro Rudy goar is playing with two and a half All Stars is aied allar fine a little bit away so we can I’m not chny I’m not disputing that the kid is great

But let’s [ __ ] reward winning and if your franchise is dog [ __ ] if your franchise is dog [ __ ] then leave in three years and go to a place but let’s not reward let’s not reward the last place team with Rookie of the Year okay that’s fine that you can give that I’m

Saying you can give that I’m saying my argument is chat averaging 18 a game and no one has ever hit 153s 10 and something blocks and done the things that he’s done on the number one seed and it’s like but look at wm’s numbers and it’s like come on Channing defensive

Player of the year I get the on and off I get the on and off I’m not saying that the dude is not [ __ ] great all defense but the defensive player of the year is going to potentially go to a team that’s in last place and we’re

Gonna say it’s not his fault half of his they’re not last 24 half of his half of his blocks come because they’re so shitty on [ __ ] defense and they don’t guard anybody so he actually gets rewarded because he’s guarding against non because he’s blocking shots because of terrible

Defense I’ve been on shitty teams I don’t get three blocks a game that doesn’t make sense how does it not make sense so you’re you’re punishing him not punishing it’s not punishing we’re rewarding you’re reward punishment and rewarding are two different things you’re rewarding a good player you’re rewarding a good team

So so okay say this next year is this a team award or is this a [ __ ] individual award nobody has a bigger impact defensively than this player because his team sucks do because his team sucks because he is good at defense he’s the best defensive player in the NBA

[ __ ] Rudy Gober is playing with Carl Anthony towns who’s seven Jaden McDaniels who is a certified first team on defense Anthony Edwards the next base of the league he is also playing with other great players his job is simple stand there be huge don’t [ __ ] it up

When you’re playing on a shitty team and you’re 20 years old on let me finish let me finish let me finish when you’re playing on a Spurs and you have to make up playing defense like that hey here’s our Co coverage oh you [ __ ] it up now

I gotta play my guy and your guy it’s harder his impact is obviously seen on a [ __ ] 13 wins last [ __ ] place in the Western Conference yeah they’re not no no no they’re not last they’re two teams that have nine nine wins they’re last in the Western Conference that’s we’re talking we’re

Talking overall the league no no I’m not saying can’t play 48 minutes he can’t play 48 minutes I’m not saying that dude’s not nice I’m not saying he’s not [ __ ] good but when in [ __ ] history have we ever get the defensive player of the year to somebody that finished on the

15th on the team that’s ranked 15th never in history never in history never in NBA history Channing come on brother I’m just you look back and be like yep we made a mistake [ __ ] looking back when Remember When the MVP for the finals MVP was almost given to a player

That didn’t win the championship you talking about LeBron averaging a triple double he didn’t win yeah that was different he should have got it you can’t be you you’re the numbers this is the thing it’s weird because it’s like you’re like well he’s not playing with good players so we’re

Penalizing him for being for being on a shitty team that’s fair I hear what you’re saying in that but the other part about this is that Awards should go to impacting winning it should go to impacting winning not just numbers right like that that’s my only thing I if if a

Guy is going out there and giving up 30 offensive get or getting 30 rebounds a night but he never contest a shot so if I don’t contest a shot and I just go and Chase well he led the league in rebounding yes but his team was dog [ __ ]

Because he wasn’t doing the things I’m not penalizing Victor I think Victor is going to win five defensive player of the year he’s going to do all the [ __ ] I’m not I’m not penalizing but to say that you are the last place team and then say that he is the best

Defensive player in the league we are not what more can he do what more can he do Notting why are we Rudy has to do less Rudy has to do less he has to stand there he won multiple defensive player the okay that’s also has Rich also has J

M I come I come from yes any W defensive player of the year when he had Mike Conley and Donovan Mitchell who don’t [ __ ] guard anybody this well Mike connley is a great defender by the way great defender slow down he was a great defender and we’ll stop it on this because

I this is this what I’m gonna say I want to reward winning I believe that if you give that rookie of the year is different because you can’t control where you go I like C because he he’s on good teams and he has to so because you’re also penalizing Rudy by saying he

Doesn’t have to do anything because he’s on a good team so you’re penalizing Rudy for being on a good team but you don’t but you wna give you want to give c credit to him to to to Victor because he’s on a bad team right my only thing

Is this if you start giving out Awards to the last place thing go it should impact winning if you are are really the best defensive player in the [ __ ] World your team should not be last place that’s my only argument and if that’s on the organization and the Spurs

Record-wise what are they defensively Ally what are the Spurs defensively they’re dead last when uh in defensive efficiency when Victor is not on the floor and they are sixth when he’s not on the floor what are they when he is [ __ ] team it’s I six they’re top 10

When he’s I’m done done you know what this been a great great episode thank you thank you I just it just proves my point he can’t play all game they’s six Richard BR they’re in last place that’s as a team record then fire the GM fire

The what you talk what you so they’re dead last and then they’re sixth oh wow so what what are what what is their defensive rank as a [ __ ] team because he does play 30 minutes a night so he is playing the majority of a game what are

They the majority of the game playing what is it so we’re gonna take the what are what are they when Victor’s on the floor no no no no I’m not talking about on the floor I’m talking about over the course of the game as a

Team I’ll have to look it up for you that’s that’s what that’s I’m saying as a the way hang they could be awful scoring though Richard that’s what the record you’re just going off of the fact that it’s simply them being last place they’re 24th they’re 24th as a

Team okay so having said that though like part of the MVP discussion guys will get slighted because of who they play with like Jason Tatum like Jason Tatum that was a part of the conversation or I mean nicolea yic like it’s been a part of Giannis it’s been a part of the

Conversation if this if wimy wasn’t if wimy wasn’t wimy I don’t think we would be having this conversation if wimy wasn’t this unicorn and we’re talking about offensively you’re talking about this great like thing that we’ve that we really truly have never seen if he was

If he was a a a normal player putting up the defensive numbers rebounding box putting up the defensive numbers we would not give it to him we would not give it to him if he was a just a defensive player if he was Ben Wallace and he was putting up these

Numbers on a terrible team we would not give it to him that’s why it’s never been done in history if we want to drink the wimy Kool-Aid and say he’s the future face and start throwing the stuff at him he’s going to meet up with it

He’s going to get it agreed right I personally thought Carmelo Anthony should have won rookie of the year over LeBron because Carmelo led a team to the postseason right they let and he was the rookie and was Led Led them average 20 points a game and was the best player on

A team that went to the postseason as a rookie that’s [ __ ] hard to do that’s my only LeBron still want it yeah LeBron won it right but again Carmelo had Kenyan Martin na ne he had a bunch of guys on his team but he showed up was

The best play player showed up every night averag 20 points a game and went to the PO postseason that’s why like if I had a vote I would have voted for Carmelo Anthony as Rookie of the Year over LeBron that’s not LeBron’s fault that he had a bunch of shitty teammates

Like bra Braun a which is what but that’s what channing’s saying with Victor it’s not Victor’s fault but and a and it ain’t Chad’s fault but Chad now has if Chad makes two talking about defensive player defensive player defensive player of the year if we’re

Just going to make if we’re not going to make it when we say it’s a team award if we’re just want to make it just purely stats and guys can go out there and block shots and get all rebounds and their team can finish 24th and it’s like

But when I’m on the court we’re six when I’m off the court we’re last but overall as a team we’re 24th and we’re in dead last dead last in our conference and that’s the person we’re going to give the best defensive player of the year award Richard they are awful at scoring

That’s how you win the game you have more points than other teams this is a defensive award what is his impact on the defensive end show me a player that has a bigger defensive impact and then I’ll be quiet show me a player that has a bigger defensive

Impact don’t know where Rudy rings for his defensive efficiency I don’t know where it’s not that much I’m saying I’m telling you I don’t know I look we look I I respect your opinion my opinion is different I just don’t believe that we should give out a [ __ ] award to the

Last place team because his numbers are great that goes against against everything that we have fought for our entire lives individual numbers should be purely based off of team when we start dissecting when he’s on the court and when this this and bl blah blah blah

That’s there to make arguments and I get it I just think that every single thing lud olssen every single thing that you have been taught over the course of your basketball career to give an award to the last place thing because his numbers are good I just feel like that goes

Against the culture of [ __ ] winning that’s my opinion I’m not like I I understand what you’re saying like we’re having a legit conversation because it is true he is a [ __ ] highle candidate we will win multiple ones but last place and then we want to

Point to well when he’s on the court at they’re sixth they’re in last place bro that I I I just can’t get on board with that I I just don’t think when we are looking at defensive player right you cannot penalize him for that individual it is an individual Award right

You are penalizing him for his GM’s decision to put a underdeveloped team out there you don’t win or lose in today’s game because a guy is one guy can’t guard five but his impact to give his team even a sort of chance is the greatest in the league I said Rudy’s got

Him what do you mean does he defensive uh rating yeah yeah Victor’s at 1073 Rudy’s at 104 okay I’ll be quiet I digress no no but I hear you no but CH I’m not I wasn’t [ __ ] on your point bro the fact that we’re talking about

The rookie winning that I’m not we can argue I know I’m not but just I want clear I just think that winning winning means something and we got we gotta make that’s not but that’s not the defensive he’s he can only affect winning so much well this

This ain’t his year then this ain’t his year and the season of De this ain’t his year to win it what’ you say in the season of debates are your top two debate tours wait Ally what is the difference between when the minute when he’s on the

Court and when he’s off oh that’s a deep dive post it on you know what you know what I I have this right here their team is in last place in the confence that’s that’s the stat I have UCLA Arizona who wins AR stop it I gotta go guys I love

You guys it’s another edition of road trip By

With the Spurs having one of the worst records in the NBA, should Victor Wembanyama be in the discussion for DPOY? On this edition of Road Trippin’, Rich and Channing give their takes on whether the rookie deserves the award despite being on one of the worst teams in the league. Also, the crew puts LeBron James’s record of 40,000 points all-time into perspective, and take some guesses at who the most valuable teams in the NBA are according to Sportico.

CHAPTERS:

0:00 – Intro
2:15 – Channing’s throat surgery
6:37 – LeBron scoring 40,000 points
15:15 – Is Kevin Durant still the biggest scoring threat?
20:28 – Who finishes atop the Western Conference?
26:18 – Mavericks struggling
31:33 – Kelce Brothers/Love for Cleveland
35:22 – Under Armour Game Changers of the Week
37:00 – Guessing Most Valuable Teams
43:46 – What will happen with the Cavs?
48:03 – Victor Wembanyama DPOY Argument

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