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Mavs/Heat: Should Luka Doncic Be Getting More People Involved? | Shan & RJ



Mavs/Heat: Should Luka Doncic Be Getting More People Involved? | Shan & RJ

Mavericks with a much much needed looking for Revenge they get a much needed win over the Miami Heat last night on TNT good morning Metroplex 8:00 hour here on Sean RJ and Bobby I was thinking with four minutes left they’re going to screw this up how are they

Going to go ahead and lose this one but it was really a barage of threes and exom ended up being the exm factor no exom who really does not like look like a basketball player no he looks like a heavier Boris Di and Boris di for Di was

Like kind of chubby running around out there but exom Luca Kyrie threes exom then hit a two-pointer that put him up seven and that was night night after it looked like Miami was going to score 160 it looked like they were going to drop 160 on the Mavericks but the defense

Buckled down 25 points or less in all the the quarters following the first and Jason kid was asked hey we know this is the number one topic what changed just being tied together you know it’s not easy you know it’s going to be ups and downs you’re going to be tested um I

Thought the group that started we got back door a little bit too much um trying to run you know making sure Duncan wasn’t going to shoot threes and and he he back cut us a little bit uh Jimmy got to the middle which he loves

To do and then that puts a lot of pressure on the defense um so that opened up some threes but I thought the guys again mentally stayed the course um no one’s panicked and uh we we we had a good home win no one’s panicked no one’s

Dying Simple Man his blood pressure I thought he’d be a little bit more hype but he looks like he’s he is 110 over 70 I would kill they they don’t have the amount of pills I take they don’t they don’t make pills for me to get my blood

Pressure down enough to be Jason kid right now he is so even killed for somebody who’s is about to get fired uh he is so even killed well Tim ller talked about Jason kid possibly getting fired if the defense doesn’t get fixed I personally think that Jason kid is in

Trouble man they they are a Civ a Civ defensively right now again and as everybody knows I’ve been high on them when they got made those Acquisitions and I thought man you got these two guys playing this well together you get them in a seven game series that’s a problem

For teams if if these pieces are all fitting and it looked like it was there and then all of a sudden they you look up Adam they’ve lost five out of six games and they’re just getting absolutely destroyed they’ve given up you know 130 plus points in three of

Those losses and and it’s just not competitive they look frustrated Luca looks frustrated he’s got four straight 30o triple doubles in losses yeah so like at some point he’s the kind of guy he’s a little bit petulent at times I think Jason kid’s in trouble if you pick

Up from the 10-minute Mark of the second quarter so I mean essentially the last last three quarters of the game Miami shot under 40% last night which is what you that that’s the kind of thing that it feels like they are capable of as long as the effort’s there like as long

As the effort and the communication are on point it feels like they’re capable of that it’s just it’s not been there consistently enough and it’s it’s tough to when you see a lack of motivation and then you hear Jason kid talking like this it’s like okay are you just

Mirroring the the lack of intensity from your own head coach Derrick Lively said that our problem is not our first second effort it’s the third and fourth effort so when they cross half court we’re fine after the first pass or two is made it’s fine but then it’s our third and fourth

Effort that cost us last night it looked much better especially in the second half by the way I said this to start the show uh I kind of thought about the Cowboys in the playoffs like when you watch the divisional round and then the conference Championship you’re like oh

That’s what like really really high quality level football looks like that’s something the Cowboys are not capable of that’s how I felt last night watching Denver Boston after our game did anyone else watch that truck.com TextLine 877 881 1053 I know choppy was watching Lincoln Riley I Bobby was packing for

Tarlton um I watched the first few minutes of it fast crisp high level passing everywhere it was just like okay this is another level this is another level of Hoops uh the Denver Nuggets are going to repeat as NBA champions last night they beat the mighty Boston Celtics and maybe

Defensive Player of the Year a play of the Year Anthony Edwards block at the end of the game that was stupid he hit his dag on head on the backboard it was incredibly impressive now here’s the thing that you had people like split on you either could say what a play and

Then you had some others I I think Jesse Holly even said it on Twitter they’re like you don’t need to run down there for your little Superman block if you don’t miss the free throw down at the other end a no whoever argues that I

Know it was it was a fantastic play I I mean he’s such a crazy he is so fun to watch play basketball he he’s a little bit of a a deag but he is so fun to watch yeah really unlikable off the floor he’s a freak he’s an absolute

Freak and I thought he was hurt at the beginning of this game following the car anony towns out for the season news the Anthony Edwards it stunned me cuz like in college he was really good play player right but usually like great players in basketball takes one player where did he

Play he played in Georgia they were 5 and 13 in conference that year W like with with with the number one pick with a great player that doesn’t happen that often it’s so here’s what’s refreshing about Anthony Edwards is in an era where we’re getting the he’s a

Dog yeah where we’re getting the joic and the wemi and and the Giannis those types who all are great players but talk sort of like hey basketball is not the main thing in my life there there’s another part of like ant is the throwback to the Jordan Kobe mentality

Of like I don’t have friends I’m I’m just a dog and you know this is about me versus you and I don’t have friends here on the basketball court that is one thing that I love about Anthony Edwards yeah guys too’s waiting on the fan text

Uh 512 says kid is trying too hard to protect Lucas as his defense and temper is a massive issue uh that’s affecting his leadership and then Sean the 62 Denver and Boston was close the entire game it’s real NBA basketball yes uh it was impressive it just another level

Have you watched it did not take too long uh for it to become obvious just like playing Daniel Gafford more minutes as Jason kid started him last night but before the game a lot of people paye sent this to us uh a lot of people were interested in the Inside the NBA

Discussion went four minutes we cut up a lot of it here between Barkley and Sha talking about Luca’s game they disagreed let’s see which side of the argument yall are on the Mavericks frustrate me so much cuz they should be so much better we make a big deal out of Luca’s

Numbers his numbers should be going down when you play with better players when you’re a great player the better players you play with your numbers should go down he’s got to do a much better job of getting rid of the ball using those other guys and they’re playing the same

Way they played when they didn’t have any Talent they got PJ Washington and and and uh Daniel Gafford and d and Gafford Luca as great as he is he’s got to learn to play without the basketball Ernie when you play and Shaq Shaq would know this better and Kenna knows this

Also when you play with better players as a great player the game should be easier not harder your numbers should go down not up and his numbers are going up that’s why they’re not winning you know then they got into a whole fight which will play about the Last Dance how

Charles said 37 points is too much he needs to be a 31 and I was thinking of you uh with Kell Moore Mike McCarthy like you should be scoring less you should be scoring less points what you would say to that discussion that Luca is scoring too much and they were

Talking about Michael his three highest scoring years I think came before the first title oh yeah yeah yeah they were they were all back in the’80s for the most part um but yeah it’s like the Kell War thing is a little different cuz it’s like the the team is not trying to score

Less in basketball right it’s just the individual player yeah scores less cuz everybody else around him is scoring more and the team as a whole is better and and it look you do at the end of the day you need and this this will happen at no matter what level of basketball it

Is all the way down you know from middle school and high school there’s a point where the ball is in the hands of your dude okay that’ll happen but before that the ball is in the hands of anybody and you don’t necessarily have to be as ball

Dominant as he is and I understand what he’s saying and I think generally like he’s got a point there the more the better players you’re around the less you’re going to score as the top guy because other guys are scoring for you too here’s Shaq disagreeing with Charles

Over Luca I disagree and I’ll explain in a moment uh Kyrie and Luca they both have the same problems they do what great players do but they don’t do what the greatest players do I don’t think the numbers should go down if you going to have your numbers like that you

Should be able to do both and it’s been done Michael Jordan numbers didn’t get get to go down when he started winning he actually they did no he did yes they did go down he was able to do both Michael J Michael Jordan was the leading

Scorer in the league when he was winning championships I believe yeah but his numbers went down Shack I was the leading scor in the league when I did the championship so let’s just say Luca’s number is 30 you can still average 30 and get other people involved that’s what I’m saying whether his

Numbers went down or not you can do both whatever Luca wants his number to be my number was 2810 I’m gonna get my 28 no matter what but big shot Bob’s in the corner Rick fox is right there uh you know Brian Shaw is right there the

Difference is people have to get you the ball Luca has the ball he’s got to get rid of the ball more often Michael got rid of the ball and but I’m saying it’s a different thing like you had they had to give you the ball to be the great player you

Luca starts with the ball he’s got to get off the ball Jordan averaged 37 in 1986 87 season that was his first year back after the foot injury then he averaged 35 the next year and now both of those I mean they got Pippen I think in the second year

The second round like the second season of that number and then he averaged 32 and 1/2 then 33 and 1/2 and then they won their first title of the year after yeah he was still scoring 30 to 32 even when yeah even yeah even when he was winning titles all

Right he was still leading the league and scoring the first year he average 31 and 1/2 then 30 then 32 and 1/2 oh man and then 30 and 1/2 and then 29 and A2 and then 28 and2 I think Luca probably has like three bad shots a game okay

Last night he took a couple and I’m like no no no don’t do that at least pass the ball once and I’ve said this for years about him what the what the fs you wanted to do are you serious you watch to Dallas Mavericks play and you don’t

Think he’s getting other people involved that he’s always looking for the alleyoop that he’s always finding the guys in the corner he’s third in the league and assists like is he getting other people involved or are is he is he using them as Last Resorts that’s a good question cuz I do

Think there’s a difference like Russ could average I mean Russ average a triple double nobody ever accused Russ of getting them involved getting people involved that’s that’s that’s that could be a really good point I mean think how many could be I didn’t say it was think

Think about how many shots aren’t 50 proposition at best at best really like 25 think about how many shots aren’t finished off of a Luca kick though whether it be like one of these Tim Hardaway Jr bricks or those YOLO shots from him or whatever else like there’s

There’s plenty of times I think where Luca distributes the ball where I’m frustrated and I’m like why the hell are you kicking it out why are you you know Distributing here like go just finish the play like there there’s a lot of times where I think he’s not selfish

Enough it’s just that he’s so good what do you want it’s like the CD lamb thing you’re you’re CD lamb too much nobody’s better than CD lamb get CD lamb the ball I don’t care I don’t want Michael Gallop to get eight targets I don’t want Tim

Hardway J to get 12 shots yeah it’s it’s just use your best players the way they need to be used what do y’all think whose side are you on Shaq is saying he can do all of it Charles is saying he needs to score less he know needs to go

From about 37 to 31 now he’s not averaging 37 but on this current run that he’s on he has been uh I think he’s the only player in NBA history now with four straight 35 Point or more game triple doubles Luca freaking Donic

The Mavs had a much-needed win Thursday night, beating the Heat 114-108. However, Dallas was down at the half which sparked a debate between Shaq & Barkley. Should Luka be getting more players involved or is a ball-dominant Luka the only way to win?

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17 Comments

  1. Geez, Luka is dropping 10+ assists per game right now, you want him to average 15-20 assists per game? Because that is not realistic or his game. His game is getting buckets.

  2. Mavs don’t win that game if Luka doesn’t score 17 in that 3Q. Luka showed twice in that game that the offense can’t function without his ability to draw double teams. First quarter Luka didn’t look to do anything Mavs couldn’t score or get open shots 3Q Luka scored 17 to put the Mavs up 91-83 then he sat for 4 minutes to begin the 4Q Mavs only scored 4 points and it was a 95-91 game. The talent on the roster along with skill sets cant do anything without Luka because nobody can make the same passes as Luka can when he sits. Kyrie is too small so he can’t throw a jump pass to a roller if he gets blitzed off of a PnR. The only easy shots the Mavs get are from Luka creating or himself it takes two seconds to see when you watch how bad the offense looks when they have to play 1 on 1 offense. Past 5 games teams haven’t doubled Luka and that’s why the Mavs lost Kidd has no scheme to get others easy shots when teams double Lula like the Heat did the offense is good ball is moving. Luka doesn’t trust Kyrie either and I don’t blame him nobody knows which Kyrie will show up from game to game he’s either passive deferring to THJ or he’s aggressive which the Mavs need him aggressive it’s why Luka plays so much better with Exum because he knows what Exum is going to give him every night. It’s why Luka moves off ball for Exum and lets him handle the ball a lot more.

  3. Stop with that Luka hatred BS. You watch Mavs games. How many games have you seen Luka pass to Tim, Josh, Maxi, Jones and they miss straight up shots? It’s one thing for racist Charles Barkley to hate on Luka, but Dallas media knows better. Any time Luka does something great, racist American sports media criticizes him. They don’t want him to be the face of the NBA. The BS hatred on Luka is a contrived bigoted media attack. It has no merit and it has no place in US sports.

  4. Luka should pass the ball more, nobody thinks the mavs can’t win without him. Stop the cap

  5. The Mavs offense is very static. Guys just stay in place waiting for a pass from Luka. Why the coaching staff allows that is beyond me.If the players are cutting and active Luke would find them. Teams in the losing stretch were not doubling Luka, so Luka had no open teammates, as they were covered and not moving. Sir Charles doesn't watch the Mav games and it was a bad take from him.

  6. Have ppl realized that Luka was a plus 11, 13 and 9 on 3 of the 5 games they lost? The problem is always the minutes when he's out, Kyrie wasn't playing well over that stretch. And, of course, you guys have an atomic bomb exploding on your own heads… I don't even have to name the player.

  7. What the eff more is Luka supposed to do with guys like THJ, DJJ, PJ, Maxi, Gafford & Lively who are NOT shot creators? And I would put Green in that category too. Really the only others on the team capable of creating a shot are Kyrie, Exum & Hardy. Hopefully Lively becomes that guy. You just throw it down to him in the low post and he can work like Hakeem or Shaq on getting an easy bucket or to see the double-team & hit the open guy. But he's not THAT guy…yet.

    And I feel like the reason the ball isn't moving all over the court is because of 2 things. 1) that's not those players game to be running all over the court off of 3-5 screens like Steph can and 2) Kidd doesn't seem to have a system to get the role players shots. Kidd's system is "Luka & Kai ya'll go down there and do something cool on offense".

    Plus, how do you expect the Mavs offense to be more efficient when THJ has been like 15 for 156 over the last month? Seriously, Luka should probably have AT LEAST eighty more assists on the season but THJ, DJJ, PJ (until recently) and Maxi keep bricking shots the past 2+ weeks.

  8. Bro luka would assist 20+ if his teammates would score when they have open shots, luke definitely gets his team involved, the team doesn’t perform off the passes luka gives them

  9. Respectfully I think he need to pass the ball more.,
    I think Tim hardaway Jr needs a few more opportunities,, when everyone is touching the ball, best battle for your overall scoring, balance balance!

  10. Just like when Shaq left Kobe numbers in scoring went crazy 😂 but when he got. Better players around him his scoring came down some times win chips

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