Around the Horn | Jokic’s sneaky use of his shoes to give the Nuggets extra time on challenge calls

Around the Horn | Jokic’s sneaky use of his shoes to give the Nuggets extra time on challenge calls

Emily Kaplan Israel Gutierrez Monica mcnut you’re dead to me phrasing sorry not not you guys say qu free agency negotiating day two in the headline Derek Henry to the Ravens wow and also wama postered but nobody posters anymore so it’s more like cell phone background wallpapers let’s go around the

Hor start posters again I think there you go Tony Story or in Derek Henry to the Baltimore Ravens and move you could just see happening officially unofficial but will happen when it can happen just imagine lining up on the other side of Lamar Jackson and Derek Henry like you want to be cut

By hatori Hanzo sword or Thor’s hammer what do you want also moves today Aaron Jones to the Vikings Patrick Queen to the Steelers Shaq bar to the Dolphins Mina kbes Big Winners so far in our legal tampering window because remember free agency doesn’t start until tomorrow but who’s the big winner

Today yeah I mean the biggest spender doesn’t always equate to the biggest winner but it’s hard not to go with Atlanta signing Kurt Cousins to be their quarterback of the future because it immediately vaults them into playoff contention they are correctly now the favorites to win the very winnable NFC South

Um there’s a bit of risk it is you know a 36y old quarterback coming off of milles injury but he was by far the best option he was an excellent fit for what they want to do on offense with the new offense coordinator Zach Robinson who comes from the same McVey tree that

Kirk’s previous head coach Kevin okono comes from and their skill players will no doubt benefit from Kirk’s prowess throwing over the middle of the field so I really like the fit as far as losers uh to me the obvious answer here is Carolina trading away Burns for a

Pittance a second round and a fifth especially when you consider the fact that not that long ago they had multiple firsts on the table um to me it’s not just the return being significant for a 26-year-old pass rusher who’s one of the NFL’s best it’s the fact that this

Carolina roster now has really very little to build around uh they are Barren and when you look at a rebuild you want to hold on to players like Brian Burns because those are the players you hope those draft picks turn into I don’t understand this move at all

Emily Kaplan day before free agency you have a winner you have a not so winner there’s one person that I think is massively the loser actually and it’s Justin fields and it’s because as Mina just pointed out the Atlanta Falcons who he could have gone to chose to pay a

36-year-old $100 million in guaranteed money despite coming off in ailles tear and you know I live in Chicago and I just feel like his characteristics so much fit the ethos of this city he’s humble he’s tough but it’s so clear they want to move on and any of the teams he

Could have moved on to picked to spend more money on Veterans despite the fact that he makes only $2.7 million this year so now he’s in this weird Purgatory where they’re going to draft Caleb Williams and maybe just sticks around in training camp and waits for someone else

To get injured to put be in their backup and to me that is a Los this is interesting to me because Mina just said cousins was the best available of the free agents but is a 36-year-old cousins at the money he was paid better than a 26-year-old Fields via trade would be a

Question I would pose but we’ll go to Israel Gutierrez first well there’s a couple of winners and I thought they were team related but also specifically to players I thought Jordan love and the Packers really benefited they got younger they were already the youngest team in the league

Last year and and sort of ahead of the game if you will ahead of their own clock and they got younger they got Josh Jacobs in there instead of Jones and they just feel like they’re again ahead of the clock but still finding a way to stay younger and stay relevant for the

Long term and I think Max Crosby and the Raiders because of Christian Wilkins and I know it makes me very sad to see him leave the Dolphins but he was at times an explosive defensive lineman for the Dolphins probably their best defensive lineman for the course of the year and

The idea of Max Crosby and Wilkins on the same line and if you saw Hard Knock in season you saw how much the Dolphins loved Max Crosby and I thought in the long term hey maybe that means Max Crosby to come to Miami instead it went the opposite way and they took Miami’s

Best defensive lineman so I say those two are a couple of and Monica mcnut all right so hear me out I totally agree with Mina in that you like that Kurt Cousins find finding way to another bag is really the winner in this but just go with me here guys Russell Wilson

Does okay like he lands in a spot where he’s going to have an opportunity to probably play and help this team you talk about a guy who’s known for his culture and an organization known for their culture it could be worse for him so I think that’s one to keep an eye on

And then for me just in terms of I don’t know if I want to call them losers yet they haven’t done anything exciting but like what’s going on in Washington like I’m just they’re Austin Eckler cool but like he’s later in his career they’ve signed half the C boys I think right and

The Cowboys have only basically signed a Long Snapper so uh Mina back to you on Kirk Cousins versus Justin Fields if it could be that equation even though I know it’s not exactly that yeah we’re learning a lot about how the league views Justin fields to me like Kurt

Cousins versus Justin Fields everybody would agree cousins has been the better quarterback the more consistent quarterback uh but when you see a team like the Raiders signing Garder mshu to a two-year deal about $15 million or so guaranteed that’s where I get confused like why wouldn’t they trade for Justin

Fields there is obviously some I think concern about the fact that when you trade for him you’re likely to have to make a decision about the fifth year option so he does cost more money because of that it’s over $20 million but the upside there to me is so much

Greater than the likes of a muu I don’t understand that but even Atlanta specifically cousins at 36 coming off at Achilles versus fields at 26 on a different pace scale I I think it tells us something about the kind of offense that Atlanta wants to run you know I mentioned that

They hired Zack Robinson from the Rams that’s not really as good a fit for Fields as it is for cousins so to me that makes a lot of sense derck Henry doesn’t get a rise out of anybody here today Derk Henry and Lamar Jackson in the same uh backfield so to speak scary

Please Gutierrez tell tell me what the Ravens just did no I mean the Ravens made themselves a nightmare on the goal line like which one are you going to defend the best the most uh most lethal quarterback at that position or uh with with the ball in his

Hands running the rock or Derrik Henry it just sort of gives them a lot of options by the goal line and if I could sort of combine thoughts here from Monica and Mina when it comes to the Russell uh the Steelers and Russell Wilson I do agree with Monica there but

That’s the team that I wonder why didn’t they go after Justin Fields why didn’t they just sort of divvy up and give some some some draft picks away maybe a play yes but we’re talking about Derk Henry please Derk Henry and Lamar Jackson or Jaylen Herz and saquan Barkley better du

That just came together mea times I would go with Lamar and Henry just because of Lamar honestly and also Henry in that situation it’s an excellent place for a running back not just because of Lamar the offensive line Al They had some guys walk out the door

Um running backs do tend to prosper there and I think the combination of him and Keaton Mitchell you shouldn’t forget about that uh explosive young rookie coming back from injury will be a really nice pairing running back movement over the last two days something I want to

Get your take on saquon Barkley went to the Eagles it led Tiki Barber former giant great and current WF radio broadcaster saying you’re dead to us saquan good luck out there you’re dead to me Barkley LOL that not out loud but in social media form at the same time

Aaron Jones was cut by Green Bay the reporting looked as if he’d take a pay cup but no he was cut flat out Ryan Grant former Packers running back posting that the idea of loyalty is a thing that doesn’t exist in the NFL it’s absurd lol again not out loud exactly

But over social media similar situation for Joe Mixon traded today by Cincinnati to Houston last year he took L less money to stay with the Bengals now now he was sent to a new team as the league year begins Israel on money loyalty cuts and

Moving how do you review it all at the running back position well I don’t think this is some sort of new philosophy on running backs based on last year that all of a sudden we’re going to pay the running backs this is more of just a salary cap going

Up and then being available uh to to receive some of this money but I do think the saquon Barkley and the Tiki Barber thing is laughable it’s it sort of goes to show you that even if you played the game your perspective might not be real because you know back in

Tiki barbers they valued running backs a lot more and he just watched he just saw Sequon Barkley get treated the way he was treated by a team and he goes gets a bag for three years and all of a sudden he is dead to him like what does that

Even matter first of all and the thick green line that he put down that he supposedly crossed I mean it doesn’t make any sense I don’t even think of the as the Eagles as the Giants main Rivals so to me saquon Barkley better off getting away from all Emily

Kapan yeah and the grand scheme of things all we’ve been talking about is this long slow death march that the running backs have been on and right now we’re seeing a little little bit of a reprieve like I he said because the salary cap is boosted but at the same

Time their salaries have been largely staged and I feel like this is also a byproduct of this 24 running back class just being weak so that’s why a lot of these guys are getting paid and the biggest thing is that they’re getting paid in not the markets that they wanted

To right saquin wanted to stay with the Giants they just didn’t really they toyed around with him Aaron Jones wanted to stay with the Packers they just chose to go younger and with somebody else um as it pertains to Tiki Barber pardon me wants to feel like this is the old disen

Battled like running back who retired one year before the Giants won a Super Bowl and therefore is bitter towards the young guy but we have to take Tiki Barber for what he is he’s a sports media guy giving a sports media hot take on radio and that’s why uh you kind of

Can just roll your eyes at it and I understand why saquon’s upset because again the Giants tryed around with him he got much more guaranteed money with the Eagles times uh in TI’s defense he was laughing you know I think he was kind of joking about it maybe there’s some bad blood

From previous takes there I will say this about the running backs and the contracts that we’re seeing a couple takes away for takeaways pardon me for me um one money is fake I mean money is fake these contracts are are largely fake I I I think the fact that we’re

Seeing so much Mobility is a reminder that you have to look at the guarantees I look at a deal like the one that Green Bay gave to Josh Jacobs it comes in four years $48 million it’s a one-year deal and that’s partially why we’re seeing all this Mobility because all these

Teams were able to get off these contracts the other thing is I think fit uh seems to matter more to these teams than just taking the best running back available I think it’s why you’re seeing a lot of these backs find new homes it’s why I love Derrick Henry with the Ravens

It’s just a really good fit and sometimes a running back might be more valuable to a different team because of that mon MN not your read on it money I don’t know that is fake I understand the contracts as just so eloquently explained you’re fired as our agent that’s what you

Are loyalty is absolutely fake and I think when we look across Sports these guys have to do what they believe is best for them as far as Tiki and sequin in particular he played in a different era high value of of uh running backs he’s now a broadcaster in a different

Era where these guys hear everything I don’t know how deep this goes I’m not super mad at him but I didn’t love it real last word after the Horn uh it’s perds that are fake uh not money but no tiki I know he was laughing

But he is like that kid in an argument that goes too far and like insults your mother and then says oh no you weren’t supposed to take it that way oh that don’t be like that come on he went too far this comment is nonsense maybe it’s greener pastures

After after the way the Giants handle it though he got paid by Philadelphia basically the same money Donell Moody got from Atlanta to play wide receiver three for them we’ll take a break here byell next Sean thaler The Devils want a suspension it was a game misconduct Ry

Second versus Jersey in his 10 career games total he had a phone hearing upcoming with the NHL Emily buy or sell suspension worthy yeah this is a onew game suspension to me you can’t extend your elbow like that but when he’s waving goodbye that irked off Curtis mcdermid

Who ironically I feel was acquired by the Devils because they didn’t have an answer to Matt Ry when he had a clean hit on Nathan Bastion a couple weeks ago so the challenge for this kid who’s a cult tier now is how do you stay effective but stay available on the ice

How do you tow that line because he’s trying to make the playoff roster so he’s got to figure that out quick but you seeing an arms race and an elbows race among teams now trying to match up with Ry as as the Rangers have added him isra guz they were chasing him all

Night yeah I mean it’s definitely a suspendable offense here only 10 games and he’s already got a history so they probably go a little harsher on it because you could almost see this coming and he’s he is Towing the line there like Emily said can he be the tough guy

Can he be a bad guy or can he come into the league and just immediately be hated because he’s crossing the line too soon the elbow to the face kind of a bad sign Monica is this a suspension worthy hit I mean yeah the NHL is sensitive about

The head clipping stuff but also he’s very beloved by his teammates he’s C this reputation as an enforcer like I think you roll with the suspensions that adds to the lore the garden has chanted his name plenty of times so they’re in on this guy it seems like this just

Seems like a little too F Well follow-up question Monica do you see a distinction between the fights and an illegal hit like this I do see a distinction but I also think when you’ve got a guy that’s looking looking for fights like that line to me is blurry and I get NHL is

Filled with all these Unwritten rules and we should say head neck or shoulder that kind of thing but like if he’s the guy that has played as many minutes as he has penalty minutes like he’s not afraid of contact we know that yeah I think this kind of captures

How precarious that line we’re talking about is when it comes to sanction violence and hockey because on one hand everybody loves he’s becom a cult hero and then on the other hand the second he crosses the line he becomes uh actually a risk and a and a bad use

Of roster for this team which is by the way why hockey had been on the decline or par me fighting had been on the decline in the first place the teams didn’t want to spend roster spots on enforcers as the game got faster and more skilled buyer sell to stay in New

York Aaron judge an MRI on his abs how often do you hear that came back clean gck Cole MRI on his elbow no report yet on that Boon says more tests are coming in the next few days opening day 19 days away Israel buy or sell Panic for the Yankees even before the

Season well if you’re going to pick two people to uh choose to create Panic it’s probably going to be Garett Cole and Aaron judge I’m not too concerned one the Aaron judge said the MRI was clean said it might not be a huge issue he’s still dealing with his toe thing as well

So he’s probably not going to be 100% all season long but this abdomen thing doesn’t seem that well if he’s not 100% all season long that is that not something to panic about Israel I mean you know 9 0% of Aaron judge is better than most the other part

About Garett Cole though with his injury if it is more serious Blake Snell’s out there available there are other pitchers out there available that they can still sign to replace them if they find out that it’s a serious long mon mcnut don’t penalize me for this Tony

But New York is already on edge over injuries check out the Knicks I know that’s split when it comes to baseball and the other team in town but injuries are a big deal it’s okay to panic start doing your breathing exercises now this is a big

Deal Kon judge is in year two of a 9 years $360 million deal two months he’s 31 years old of course I’d be concerned uh this deal was already risky and increasingly it looks like it might have been too much so and Emily Kaplan I’m going to give Monica some

Reproof here I’m going to compare it to my Sport with a lot of Unwritten rules the rules are very clear in baseball especially with a team like the Yankees if you spend this money on these two guys you need them available and without them like they’re very mid- team maybe

No better than the Red Sox so it’s just the murkiness of both of these timelines that would give if there is another Sai Young pitcher still available do you not just replace one sa young with a different sa young if he’s going to be out for a while that seems something a

Team like the Yankees could do we’ll move on fire cell three Trace Jackson Davis on Victor wanyama Davis he put the entire country of in the basket Monica I want a grade for the poster Jackson Davis and a grade for the posty wanyama and a grade for the commentary there

So Trace Jackson Jr definitely gets an a he did that on the guy that’s leading the league in blocks never mind the fact that he’s an enormous seven-footer and doing things that we have not ever seen before so that’s a big deal also I think the bigger thing here is the Warriors

Finding some real energy and trust with their young players Jackson Davis kaminga Brandon Pinsky uh I think wimi will be okay though times uh I’ll give the poster and a he kind of held his opposite hand Wy hand checked him on the way there but you know he’s Wy he’s gigantic it’s

Obviously an achievement to tackle him as far as the call um maybe a B I don’t know I would have gone with these French toast when he got him someone can use that later uh EV kapan tray and Mina uh yeah no I felt like Wy got dunked on Harder by the

Announcer than the actual play like evoking the entire country of France was a little dramatic but I love how understated wemi was after the game he’s like look you’re going to get dunked on in this game and I make a lot we’re blocks in those situations and this I

Absolutely love hearing that from him and isra Gutierrez NYU I initially downgraded it to an a because as Mina said he was assisted by the off hand however it’s Victor wenyama this may never happen again it’s absolutely an A+ Trace Jackson Davis that is probably the

Greatest poster of the year it is is Gutierrez and Monica mcnut what you just don’t know is that sweater is not just Blu Monica last night and it comeback win for the Nuggets but check out this moment this was spurring the comeback close out- of bounds call on

The sideline goes the Raptor’s way jic looks like he needs to tie his shoes very urgently giving his bench more time to look at the replay and then review it it’s possible his shoes didn’t even need to be tied but that’s what he did he’s done this before did this with against

The Celtics similarly so both times the calls worked for the Nuggets Mina you going to tell us this is fair or foul I think it’s fair hate the game not the player I will say this is the most he has ever lived up to his nickname of

The Joker but I think moving forward given that he’s done it twice in four days they might want to crack down em Kaplan oh sorry I thought I could buy myself some more time until my joke writer’s back there of something say I think it’s fair 12 out of 10 well

Executed no notes we have a french toast jerk uh jerk earlier in the show and we have this one right here from Captain well we’ll give her the point we’ll move on Novak jokovic losing at the BMP faras open round of 32 who did he lose to Luc gardi number

123 in the world he was the lucky loser into the tournament and the details here are insane jokovic excuse me jokovic had won 1,95 single matches in his career nardy had won four jokovic has 24 Grand Slam titles nardy never qualified nardy grew up with jovic’s poster on his

Bedroom wall which previously I said nobody has a poster anymore clearly somebody does crowd was cheering Luca Luca at the end Emily was this more about jokovic or nardy all right you already gave me the cheese so I’m going to say I feel like the lucky loser sometimes when I get to

Share the screen with Mina KES uh this is all about nardy though I mean he didn’t even know the rest of the draw that’s how focused he was on this match just as I’m so focused on trying to beat Mina I’m gonna go with uh jovic CU I I

Am officially concerned not just because it’s been months since he won he hasn’t won a title or the fact that this the first time in six years he’s lost to an opponent outside the top 50 but he didn’t make him work when you watched he just didn’t look like himself you think

This is a concerning loss for for jovic interesting 100% concerning loss maybe for KES Kaplan takes the crown let’s go so it’s just the NHL trade deadline and the Vegas golden knights surprise surprise have figured out a way to gain the system in the NHL here’s how they do it it’s not putting

Their captain on ltir so they can spent his cap space in the spring they become buyers when other teams feel depressed on their athletes that are willing to retain money and then over the summer they just make unemotional moves and they trade away players and it’s fine

You live like there’s no tomorrow that’s the Vegas ethos and that’s when they won their stanle Cup in uh 5 years of existence Live Like There’s No Tomorrow money is fake as well these are things I learned on today’s program that’s it 23 half hour break see you tomorrow first BL

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Around the Horn | Nikola Jokic’s sneaky use of his shoes to give the Nuggets extra time on challenge calls is so smart