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Reacting to Andrew Wiggins-Brandin Podziemski spat, Warriors have NO WORRIES | Hoops Tonight



Reacting to Andrew Wiggins-Brandin Podziemski spat, Warriors have NO WORRIES | Hoops Tonight

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So you guys don’t miss any of our content over the course of this season all right let’s talk some basketball so Andrew Wiggins on a fast break running along the middle of the floor Brandon psky is running his Lane on the right side he’s open but Andrew Wiggins is

Open too and I didn’t think Wiggins a bad read in this case going up anyway but hsky gets frustrated is like pass the ball wigin starts yelling at him they get into it with each other and I didn’t think it was a big deal didn’t think two two seconds about it after it

Happened and uh later in the game when uh psky and Wiggins were on the floor together they seemed totally fine Wiggins was cheering psky on when he was making shots and vice versa like I didn’t think it was an issue and then I I started to look on social media and a

Lot of people talking about pmsk is a rookie that is uh uh that is got too much dip on his chip so to speak and and is is is needs to be put in his place and Andrew Wiggins doesn’t need to be taken that from him and all this kind of

Stuff and all these people like uh Galaxy braining that conflict in my opinion so here’s the thing I have seen this exact type of dynamic dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of times playing basketball I’ve seen it in like college basketball locker rooms multiple times this is such a normal

Part of basketball in the sense that like in the heated competitive environment guys can get frustrated great example we just saw uh Travis Kelce running up on on Andy Reid in the Super Bowl Andy Reid is one of the very best coaches if not the best coach in

The NFL Travis Kelce is a legendary tight end he is both of those guys are extremely experienced Travis Kel’s been in the Super Bowl MP times before Andy Reed’s been in the Super Bowl even more frequently than Travis Kelce has they’re not in any sort of like truly uh a

Problematic predicament there was there was no reason for that other than Travis Kel is a competitor super competitive dude he’s fired up and he wanted to be involved more and he ran up on his coach and yelled something and like here’s the thing should Travis Kelce have done that

No should he watch that and be a little annoyed and be like man got to have more self-control yes and I guarantee you Brandon pmy feels the exact same way I guarantee you after that he saw the tape and was like man like I get it I

Was frustrated should not have yelled at Andrew Wiggins like that but it’s over it was over in 5 seconds and it’s a total non-issue this exact same thing happened to me when I was in junior college my second year plan and I was up

In Utah and it was two on1 fast break I was trailing the play um miles Gatewood our guard our starting guard uh was driving the right wing and shout out to Miles Gatewood excellent uh uh three- LEL scoring guard one of my favorite players that I played with in my time in

College and running his right lane and him and I never had any issues like we were not people that had beef at any point over the course of the season and there was a it was a two-on-one I was trailing him he missed a layup I I

Yelled at him to pass me the ball after the play mind you again I’m 21 years old at this point so I’m a little I’m I’m still a competitive hoad now at 32 so you can imagine what I was like when I was 21 years old and didn’t know any

Better uh I got we got into an argument miles did the exact same thing that Andrew Wiggins did was like shut up you know as he should have right and uh and then our coach actually pulled both of us out of the game and we ended up

Having to sit I for like it was either for the I can’t remember exactly how long we sat but we had our little like discipline disciplinary measure from the coach I went back and watched the tape after the play I wasn’t open I was I thought it was a two-on-one from my

Angle but miles had a better angle cuz he was coming from the right wing there was a player trailing me had he hit me there was another guy that could have made a defensive play so I was just flat out in the wrong but here’s the thing

Like miles and I buried it and moved on right away I was wrong I apologized to him and we moved on like it’s just such this kind of stuff is so incredibly common in basketball games because like the competitive energy just gets kind of like ramped up and Steph Curry had an

Interesting comment uh earlier on in the season about psky and his like kind of fire that he plays with and he’s like I would much rather have a guy like that that I need to tell to calm down a little bit than a guy that doesn’t have

That and I’m trying to get him to show some of that care to show some of that fight and I could not agree more with Steph in the sense that like like I mean not to go at Andrew Wiggins here but there are some times with Andrew Wiggins

Where you’re like come on dude like like you’re the best athlete on the floor like show some fight show me what you got man like there are some times that you get like that and and like that’s the thing like I would much rather have in my Foxhole in a basketball game a

Dude who’s a little bit of a hotthead than a dude who is like that can go catatonic for extended stretches and that’s the thing like pmy is definitely a little bit of a hotthead he definitely has that really highlevel competitive energy but that to me is one of his

Strengths it’s something he will have to learn to control over the years like yeah you’re right you can’t you can’t yell at your teammate for missing a read by the way that’s another thing that we haven’t even mentioned guess what happens all the time in basketball games guys miss open

Teammates it happens all the time even the best I’ve I’ve seen the best passers in the NBA misreads from time to time it happens it is so that’s the thing like that’s the lesson on the pmy side of it is like you’ve got to learn to just kind

Of control your emotions a little bit better when you’re in those situations but my bottom line is that I’m getting at here there is no crisis there’s no festering uh uh dislike between teammates there I guarantee you if you went around the locker room and psky has

Been struggling a little bit as of late he’s going through a little bit of a rookie wall a concept we talked about yesterday when we were talking about about Victor wanyama it is it I guarantee you they all have his back and I guarantee you they all view him as

Somebody that that they need I get the I thought it was really interesting what Steve Kerr said uh after it was either in a uh after their last game or it was an oppressor but where he was like I really do think this team has a chance

To make a playoff run like that to me is encouraging because it’s the same Steve cerr that said last year very differently that he did not think that they were that type of team so I think that that’s encouraging I don’t view this as a speed bump at all whatsoever

And I just wanted to kind of give my two cents on what those kinds of arguments uh mean to me in terms of what basketball games look like in reality uh nextly next question I should say uh the done with the 90s Trend so apparently there’s all these clips going around

I’ve seen a few of them but just like uh showing specific examples of like like Mugsy Bogues ripping Michael Jordan or Michael Jordan getting the Ben Simmons treatment getting like ignored at the three-point line or just uh various stretches of bad basketball that are being displayed and being like we’re so

Done with the 90s these guys are the are being portrayed as the Golden Age of Hoops and that and and it clearly isn’t like that I want to push back against that a little bit cuz for starters you can take any basketball game including some of the best basketball games that

Have ever been played for instance like let’s take like that uh Celtics just just for the sake of sticking with somebody something that’s recent that we all remember look at that uh nugget Celtics game from last week on Thursday that game was an awesome basketball game I guarantee you I could

Find two or three 30 second stretches of that game that look embarrassing bad where like guy takes a bad shot guy other team goes over and turns it over other team dribbles to the other end and runs someone over and commits an offensive foul you know every basketball game has

Ugly stretches in it if you’re hunting out of an entire decade I guarantee you you will find some hilariously ugly stretches of basketball that to me like basketball is very much a read and react Sport and so there are stretches where both teams are really sh with their

Reads and it can look super fluid and both teams can look super competent but then you can also go through stretches where guys make a few bad reads and it can look really bad pretty quickly or a guy that ends up in a situation where he

Has to do more than his skill sets capable of and it can it can look ugly and so I don’t think that that’s a really fair way to to kind of display that sort of uh era but at the same time like I do think it’s important to

Acknowledge that the game is improved I do think basketball players are better now than they were in the ’90s I think basketball players were better in the ’90s than they were in the ‘ 80s in the 70s and vice versa I think that this league is In Perpetual Improvement I

Think that’s kind of the reason that explains that MJ Ben Simmons clip where MJ is being ignored at the three-point line what’s happening there is like MJ doesn’t want to take a three because like at that point in NBA history you didn’t take that shot very often like go

Just go to uh uh just go into your Google search bar and type NBA league averages basketball reference has a page that just takes every single season of NBA history and just puts team averages during that era so like offensive rating defensive or offensive rating uh field goal percentage three-point percentage

Volume all that kind of stuff right and just go look at how many threes are taken now compared to how many threes were taken in the 80s and 90s it’s not comparable so like yeah like Ben Simmons getting ignored at the three-point line because he literally cannot shoot is

Very different than like like we know MJ wants to get to the mid-range and he’s probably going to hunt that for this possession and then if he has to take a three at the end of the shot clock you will like that’s fundamentally different that’s not something that’s just the

Game changing right and like that’s the thing like if you watch skill players from 30 years ago you’re right they’re not going to have the advanced footwork and advanced shot making as skill players from the year 2024 like again like you got to think we’ve all learned from these guys I

Literally watch uh uh NBA players and I’m like oh that’s interesting I want to try that that’s how I learned my stepback three-point shot footwork I stole it from James Harden like a lot of my dribble combinations I stole from Luca in the sense that like I’ve always

Been a fan of the way he uses his body language to get Guys open right like just recently I’ve been really impressed by Shay gilders Alexander in the way that he ball Handles in traffic and there’s some elements to like the the real like uh way he sells every single

Move even when he’s in traffic and just how sharp his handle is there’s some stuff there that I’d like to steal and like what’s happening is over the generations every young basketball player is stealing from the previous generation and stealing and like like we’re gonna have some you know new

Things that Anthony Edwards does over the course of his career that the next great two guard is going to steal but Anthony Edwards is stealing stuff from Dwayne Wade and from Kobe Bryan and from Michael Jordan and it just Builds on itself and perpetuity so of course they’re getting better which is exactly

Why like I don’t see the point in like when fans are like oh MJ played against plumbers it’s like no MJ played against the NBA in his era and LeBron played against the NBA in his era and so it’s it’s impossible to compare across eras as the league has improved as the game

Has changed so the most Fair way to rate these players in my opinion is to look at specifically how they played in their era because as much as Michael Jordan had to play against the 90s MBA Michael Jordan didn’t also didn’t have the advantage that modern NB modern NBA

Prospects do in terms of training we just talked about all the footwork and moves that they can steal from Modern players the uh just the tools that are at their disposal it’s a completely different Universe now than it was it when MJ MJ was coming out of college in

1984 guys that’s literally 40 years ago like this is an entire that’s half a century so like it doesn’t make sense for to compare him to this era because he just didn’t play in this era and so that’s why I kind of look at it in that

Sense but again are the ’90s as beautiful of basketball as 2020 no but are they as ugly as they can be made to appear in short little highlight films obviously not and so I I I think it’s more important for us to respect each of those eras in the way that they

Built on each other than to put them down just so that we can Elevate players from now when that’s not the point we know they’re better we know they’re better now that that’s just like the players in 2034 are going to be Better he

Jason Timpf reacts to Andrew Wiggins and Brandin Podziemski’s “fight” and the social media attention it has garnered. Jason explains why the Warriors have absolutely no problems between the two players as Draymond Green and company look to close in on the NBA Playoffs without Steph Curry. Later, Jason discusses why Michael Jordan and 1990s basketball should not be criticized as much on social media.

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Timeline:
17:20 – Andrew Wiggins-Brandin Podziemski “fight”
06:56 – Don’t hate on Michael Jordan & 90s basketball

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40 Comments

  1. Even lottery picks don't do that. Podz just needs to come off his high horse. I blame Kerr. He put Moody and Kuminga in a bottle. Still bottling Moody and even TJD to an extent. But Podz? He has given him the green light in all things. This is expected.

    Side note. Podz misses 5 straight and he is still in game. Moody misses 3, takes him out. Meanwhile Moody is neck to neck our best on ball defensive player

  2. It is a non issue. But….I am on team Podz. He called out Wiggs, he was pissed when Klays foul sealed the loss a couple months ago. Love that kid. I do love Klay and Wiggs, but sometimes they don't seem to be hustling like the rookies.

  3. Good to see some emotion from Wiggins. He should channel that anger and play with passion, not like he is just there to collect a paycheck. Podz is the future. Except for a few months in 2022, Wiggins has been a disappointment and I hope he's not in the team's plans for the future

  4. The "done with the 90s" trend has started because of all the negative comments over the years from older fans and sports pundits shaming how the modern game is played. We are literally a month removed from Lukas 73 point game and all the oldhead coming out the woodworks saying nobody plays defence anymore. Now the younger generation are actually going back to watch these games and realising how overpraised and misconstrued it is. I personally think its fair game.

  5. Luckily we won’t the game, I thought I saw another 4th quarter collapse coming. But I also thought Wiggs was running too slowly, we could see the defender closing on Wiggs but maybe Wiggs couldn’t.

  6. Podziemski needs to learn to take the ball. Podziemski gets the ball after a made shot and taps, or passes, it to someone inbound to take out of bounds. His refusal to simply inbound the ball gives the defense time to get back into position.

  7. This is why you’re my #1 hoops guy and I don’t even fuck with the lakers like that.

  8. Jason, I always love hearing your takes and generally agree with them, but you and I disagree on this Podz-Wiggins issue. It looked to me like Podz was frustrated with Wiggins being so casual and getting fouled for “lollygagging”. The Warriors broadcaster Kelenna Azubuike even called out Wiggins for not going hard to the rim.

  9. Hmmm, I don't think basketball has gotten better. Today's players lack fundamental skills and don't know how to play team ball. Are the handles more impressive today? Yeah sure, but back then you couldn't travel and carry the ball like you do now.

  10. It seems that some people are forcing themselves not to understand what done with the 90s mean so they dont have to deal with it

  11. They had that player in oubre but they tried to clown him. Did he pick up the system at the get go? No but Wiggins wasn't any better either. At least oubre always brings the fire. Wiggins not so much. At times, oubre was the best player.

  12. The reason why we’re seeing order of magnitude each decade when it comes to basketball, is because the sport is only about 135 years old. And let’s be honest, it’s only been played at a professional level for about 80 years. So, humans are still learning what to do, and how far they can manipulate their bodies and the ball, concerning this sport. If the sport was 600 years old, we probably wouldn’t be seeing extreme progression each decade, because we would’ve already achieved the highest level a human could achieve regarding basketball, a couple of centuries earlier.

    We’re seeing extreme progression in ability primarily because the sport is new and still developing. And of course there’s also the fact humans in general are getting Incrementally better, with sports medicine, nutrition, training, etc.

  13. 10 years ago an interaction like this would be a non issue. A single heated moment in the game that im sure was just a passing thing. There is entirely too much coverage these days.

  14. The problem wasn't that Podz wanted Wiggs to pass him the ball…. The problem was it took Wiggs 5 minutes to get the ball and take it to the basket for an easy bucket. Podz problem told Wiggs to get his slow a** to the bucket. Then Wiggs gave the stink eye back to Podz… LOL!!!!

  15. Podz was right.
    The correct basketball play was to pass ahead to the open teammate. Or at least take it hard yourself.

    So glad Jason is here to speak sanity and say this isn’t a big deal, though.

  16. Podz talking about pass the ball? He saw JK running floor in Mavs game and he forced it and got blocked.

  17. I tell people all the time that basketball is a living breathing thing and that it evolves like any business if it doesn't IT DIES

  18. This is what frustrated Jimmy Butler about Wiggins. Dude is blessed with natural talent and athleticism and he's like 🥱, while someone like Jimmy gives his blood, sweat and tears to achieve what he does.

  19. "Stealing" moves or whatever is the wrong verb. "Emulating" might be better, but it's still not quite accurate – you're learning from Shai (or whomever). But they don't lose the moves because you learn them …

  20. Why’s my white brother always trying to clean-up another white guy ignorant’s, wrong doing’s, by assuming they’re sorry for their wrong doing, but’s, when wrong doing is by non-white, you guy’s never say I’m sure he are she’s is sorry, no, my white brother would only add to how’s wrong and out of line they were, referring to Travis shoving the coach, plus, all the sports commentators replied “what’s people don’t realize about Travis is, he is very competitive, but’s, Travis apologize, when’s black players have conflict’s, with other players, the media never show them apologizing to each other’s. The evil of the media.…!!!

  21. Podz mad about Wiggins not passing the ball, then he got blocked at least 3 times by not passing up the contested layups in Mavericks game 😂😂😂

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