Can the Phoenix Suns, Kevin Durant and Devin Booker finish the 23-24 NBA Season strong?
Hello everybody and welcome in to the phnx Suns podcast I’m Lindsay that’s Saul that’s flex and that is Gerald we’re gonna have to go back a little bit you guys we’re going to talk about last night’s game just a little bit one because we have a updates and
Two because I think it’ll set the stage for the final 10 games of the Season okay so even though I took a big heavy breath at the beginning of the show right I don’t think it’s gonna be that bad but who knows because we did get
This tweet awesome we did get this tweet from Amanda flu grad sideline reported for the Phoenix Suns and she said Frank Vogal says that both Bradley Beal and Yousef nage are questionable for tomorrow’s game both of them did not participate at practice today on a scale
Of 1 to 10 how concerned are each of you zero okay I’m not concerned at all okay no about the injuries or just life in general I mean listen guys do I need to like you know listen narrow this down you looked at the game last night they
Didn’t win they I mean listen they choked against the Spurs it was a bad loss uh whether they have Bradley Beal or Yousef nurkic I don’t really think it matters to be honest with you Yousef may be a little bit more than Bradley but Brad and KD were able to beat the
Nuggets now it’s going to have to be Devon and Katie okay okay all right I like the positivity Flex where are you at about these injuries right now on a scale of one to 10 yeah I’m pretty similar maybe one two I don’t think they major injuries if they were they’d be
Ruled out for tomorrow they didn’t practice today I don’t expect that you spray your ankle and spray your finger you’re not GNA practice 12 hours later um so I think they’ll be game time decisions and if they don’t play in this basketball game I believe dealing with some stuff there’s reports that Jamal
Murray and Aaron Gordon may not play them all um so it is what it is man I’m I’m serious it is what it is they they’ll be all right I need whatever the two of these guys have going on right now because I am not at a one or two I
Don’t know if you’re familiar with my brand of Comedy but I assure you it’s not going to remain this way for the whole show I man I’m at a seven with this and it’s not because I’m worried that these injuries are gonna sideline them for playoffs or anything like that but like
Right now you are trying to get to the playoffs you’re trying to get out of a playing spot and you know I know that they beat the Nugget short-handed very recently they might get out of a playing spot they might and find themselves not even in the playoffs oh stop they’re not
Gonna go that there’s the swing there’s the you guys want the swing there’s swing waiting for the shoe to drop there it is um no I I think like they beat the Nugget short-handed very recently but I’m pretty sure Denver is well aware of that um and they’re going to come out
With a different intensity than the last time that these two teams met and I think you know what was the sun’s record without nerk this season they four 0 and five and five like it’s not he’s important to their success Bradley Beal we’ve been talking about how he’s looked
Better recently not last night obviously but playing the point guard spot um and just the general thing that we keep going back to like you need to build continuity with this group you need these guys to be available even through terrible performances like last night you need to have those guys out out
There so not having them out there that’s one more game off the total that these guys have played together that’s concerning to me and like we’re starting this 10 game stretch so if this is something that keeps nerk and or Beal out for two to three games that could
Totally change where you wind up in the standing so I’m concerned I’m with you Gerald I’m probably at like a six um like you said not because I’m afraid that they’re going to miss games in the playoffs but because of what this final 10 games means for the rest of the
Season both as far as the standings go but also building the chemistry like they’ve played last night was their 30th game together the big three all healthy I was hopeful we would get to 40 and that they would be healthy the rest of the way through um but I guess if you
Have to deal with an injury late in the season 10 games before Playoff starts is better than when Playoff starts if we’re trying to take a positive approach here sure so I don’t know it’s not great it could be worse but we’ll keep you guys posted on everything we here injury uh
Reports TP can come out in the evening before a game but sometimes if there uh there are injuries they’re trying to like decide between they’ll hold off until the morning too but as soon as we know we’ll uh share it on social or if it comes out while we’re here on the
Show we’ll keep you guys updated as well so be sure to follow the show on social phnx Suns all right guys let’s talk about a a little bit about last night’s game we’ll go back it was a tough one it was not great uh what lessons do you
Think that these Suns can take from that really bad loss and apply to their final 10 games here if you get complacent you’re going to lose straight up I mean I I will say this because of all the injuries and the chemistry issues and all stuff they don’t have the luxury to
Just kind of coast in games even when they think they put it away like they went on that run and the third quarter looked like everything was all good then it fell apart before the end of the third quarter like they just don’t have the luxury to be able ble to just Cruise
They don’t they’re not good enough yet like and so hopefully they learned that lesson last night they got 10 tough games coming up and I’m actually more optimistic about this 10 games because I do agree with like Flex in terms of I do think that they rais their their play um
When they play the tougher teams but again you just hate to have to learn these lessons against the scrub teams in this league especially when they’re missing their phenomenal best player like it just it’s unacceptable yeah I mean yesterday was was bad it wasn’t a good it wasn’t a
Good performance was a terrible loss I think the positive you take out of this the lesson you learn from this is um if you just do what you’re supposed to do and not fall into the same damn traps you win this basketball game when I watched
The tape I found 10 plays that were self-inflicted that if you just reverse one of those plays you win the game like so that’s the good part of it is you was self-inflicting you corrected the bad thing is the Boogeyman keeps popping up they keep letting the boogeyman come pop
Up he shouldn’t be anywhere around but for some reason when they play lower competition with high level basketball players out they just think they can show up and their talent will succeed and outweigh everything and the other team’s going to lay down and and play dead and they’re just not was stba so
The negative is they gotta cut that out but the positive is they were a lot of self-inflicted things that I think are very correctable yeah it’s it’s one of those things where I struggle with this because they’re obviously not going to be playing a ton of losing teams if they
Get in the playoff field um but we’ve just seen it too many times where they play with their food or they don’t take care of an inferior team like we mentioned they’ve lost to the Spurs three times this season they’ve lost to the Nets they’ve lost to the short-handed Grizzlies like the Hawks
There’s too many games that you look at this season and like that’s five wins right there that I just named off the top of my head that you’re not even messing around with the play in right now if you just take care of business in some of those and it’s frustrating to
See it happen this late in the season with all three available um because this is not a team that has the one seed or the two seed locked up already they’re fighting for their playoff lives so that lack of urgency is frustrating I think they will bring that more often with
This Gauntlet that they have coming up but like the thing that we’re me is the turnovers continue to be a problem against a Spurs team that’s not a good defense at all like a lot of them so many of them and I’m writing about this tomorrow at go phx.com breaking down
Their turnovers this season and what’s what the causes are behind it but so many of them are just sloppy careless passes it’s not not you know two to the ball and we’re being blitzed and double teamed and they’re throwing all these complex defenses at us it’s dude throws
A pass out of bounds 10 feet over his guy’s head or tries to make a crosscourt pass or gets in the lane and tries to feed a perfect like bounce pass to Yousef nerkish who not going to catch it at his knees like it’s just unforced errors and that’s the frustrating thing
Is they can these are correctable things they just continue to make those same mistakes and not correct them they’re a careless basketball team with quote unquote tons of potential like that’s what they are right now I mean you can’t look at this season and think anything
Else like they are just there are times where you just want to pull your hair out you really do and and I I watched this team and I was saying earlier today when we had our little meeting I said you know one thing that I really is like
My pet peeve is when people waste my time and when I watch this Sun’s team sometimes I’m like you [ __ ] are wasting my time like why are you not ready to play this game you know what I mean and it’s it’s super frustrating I know the fan base feels like that you
Just hope that you know hey I will say this I am kind of glad that these last 10 games are against the best of the best basically because I feel like we’re really going to find out like are they gonna are they going to be able to to
Lock in before the playoffs or was is this going to be just one of those wasted Seasons you know what I mean and they don’t have a lot of they don’t have a lot of time to waste a season to be honest with you then we got maybe one
More year after this so then who knows what’s gonna happen uh yeah that’s the the frustrating part because you could say oh hopefully it’s a lesson you learned from last night’s game the just lack of mental focus I suppose but then you could also to say or maybe like the
Game before or like three games ago or like 17 games like how many times do we have to play this Loop before the lesson is actually learned I don’t know yeah we’ll find out and all the words that we heard from the guys coming out of practice today through Dwayne Ranken
Who’s there reporting were that like we’re Hing we hold guys accountable we were holding them accountable on film today we had a good spirited film session um Kevin Durant was talking about how it’s all about actions not words because we keep saying it but we’re not doing it Bradley Beal had said something
Similar so it’s like we got to see it now we got to see they’re aware of it they know it’s a problem they’re saying all the right things but until we actually see it in action it’s just going to be words yeah yeah that’s a little concerning it’s a little concerning that
They would they they vocalized that like we need to it needs to be in effect as opposed to just talking about it because that means that they’re acknowledging that they have a problem that they’re not able to solve right now at the moment right and that’s that’s what’s
That’s what’s the most concerning for me and like how far back does that go you know what I mean like was this an acknowledgement a month ago two months ago when did it start is what I want to know because I will give them some Grace for the beginning of the Season through
Maybe December maybe middle December I say I middle December I’ll give them a little bit of Grace because you were dealing with a lot of injuries that you were not anticipating to have to deal with but from there till now when did we decide hey maybe we do have an issue that we
Need to address and what have you been doing since then because that that dictates a lot about how I feel if I had to guess I say it started on Christmas that was the that was the first time I heard of closed door meetings and people holding each other accountable and being
Fed up a little bit it was after the Dallas game on Christmas so yeah that makes me a little bit concerned then yeah how have you had that much time where it started at the end of December right so we’re 3 months in now MH how bad is it that you haven’t been
Able to figure most of it out or at least come to a good place within three months well I think they need to have another meeting like that then if that’s the case because after December they went on that tear where they had like the fourth best record in the league
From after Christmas to the all-star break and then Brad got hurt again and it felt like they took a step back in that regard and since the All-Star break they haven’t looked like that team that they were heading into the break so I hope hopefully what we’re hearing is
Something that’s going to be addressed but again we’ve heard this multiple times this season so it’s hard to put too much stock in it until we see like over this remaining 10 games them really put it together against High Caliber competition and honestly depending on how these next 10 games go really can
Swing entirely like we you could be the most down in the depths of Despair right now and if the Suns go8 and2 or seven and three in these final 10 games that could swing almost completely to the opposite end of the spectrum like it very well could for a lot of people uh
Mario not Bros 2 do you have a copy of my rundown because they sent us a Super Chat and they said okay call it now Sun’s record these last 10 games that’s exactly where we’re headed who wants to start well they’re playing you know some of the top teams in each conference and
So when I look at that and I and there’s a stat that I’ll bring up later on but they’ve been relatively 500 to this point against those teams and I think they’re going to stay about that I think they’re going five and five against these teams okay I don’t love that
Gerald you picked the same thing I did I’m going I’m going five and five they’ve got a three-game road trip coming up at Denver at OKC at New Orleans with Beal and nerk currently questionable for the first of those three then they got Fort home Cleveland Minnesota New Orleans LA and then they
Finish with a three-game road trip LA on the second night of a back-to-back Sacramento and Minnesota like that’s a tough stretch I think if they go five and five I would actually not be I mean my expectations have been lowered but like five and five at this
Point for me would be good considering who they’re playing I mean did this ain’t gonna change for me the before the Philly game I said seven and three in the last 10 so I’m not going to change based on what happened yesterday listen I look at this Gauntlet and I say listen
You’re gonna play Denver tomorrow we don’t know what’s goingon to happen with Brad B and nerk but they’re also dealing with issues in their lineup and we don’t know what they’re going going to do tomorrow so that could be a complete wash uh but I I do think I look at
Denver and I look at OKC and a lot of ways I feel like those are the two toughest games in these next 10 because you got Minnesota twice without Carl Anthony towns and you got the Pelicans twice without Brandon Ingram and then you got the Clippers who are falling off
The face of the Earth and nobody wants to talk about their coach called him soft didn’t he he did right so six of those 10 games are against teams that are ahead of you you can make up ground are and are currently dealing with some stuff now if the Suns can take advantage
Of that well I I I like their chances being seven and three you you’re dealing with you’re at home against a Cleveland team that may not have Donovan Mitchell like so this everyone’s dealing with things this we got to take a game to game but I would not be shocked at all
If they go seven and three and I think it starts to off they can find a way they can find a way to split these two between Denver and OKC I think they give themselves good a good path I’m rolling with six and four for this one because
I’m trying to be positive um I think seven and three might be too much and five and five makes me feel bad so I went with a happy medium on this one but also again like they’ve been saying like we’ve been saying if there’s a time that
You’re going to flip that switch and turn it on it’s right now it’s these final 10 games of the season when you know that there are playoff implications on the line and you need to get a Groove going before the playoffs actually tip off yeah like it’s now or never really
In my opinion said that last week too I know but last week it was lesser competition yeah so you could in theory if you wanted to play this game you could make the argument that it’s lesser competition sure it matters just as much but again these guys are superstars they
Want to play the best of the best well here’s your chance yeah you know what I mean if you’re going to use that as an excuse at all it it’s out the door now yeah I I I get it I get what you’re saying but we did say this like two
Weeks ago and they still had the toughest remaining schedule when they had you know two games with Boston and Milwaukee coming up and they lost all three of those like I I we keep saying it’s go time it’s go time it’s go time I
Need to see it be go time 2 27 games were left after the All-Star break and we were like okay you know they got an opportunity here in the in the short term to be able to stack some wins and then they came out and they blew it twice against Houston
And now they just against Houston didn’t they lose twice one in Houston it was the second time I thought you talking about the back to back they play back to back and they split but you talking about before they did play three times in like one they L they lost two three
Yeah they play they played three times in one week right pretty much yeah it was like 10 days or so eight days so yeah so again like they they lost that opportunity St the hottest team in basketball by the way they lost two out three against the San Antonio Spurs who
Are not the hottest team in basketball so I mean like listen they had their opportunity if they’re in play then they deserve it like because they had their opportunities and they and they blew it we’ll see what happens these last 10 games I hope they can step up their
Their level of play um but you know I I think right now the numbers tell you that they’re G to be 500 in these games yeah Priscilla H said is the switch even in the room with us Lindsay I don’t know Priscilla great question remains to be
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He used that word landscaper because anything that rhymes with skape now gives me PTSD for listen like I I I’m not gonna ask Lindsay she own home I have to ask you and my man is is out on the East Side and he’s uh he’s finding a
Home that will be permanent I’m sure at some point so like you were the only one that I get it I had to be part of the transition but why is it always me I don’t know it just is just easy it’s just easy that’s fair all right
Guys it’s time for a little show and tell so we each have a good and a bad stat about this Sun’s team that we are going to share with the class Flex you want to start us off yeah all right you start with the good or the bad I’m gonna
Start with the good okay I’m gonna start with the good all right so the sons are fourth in field goal percentage in the entire NBA and fifth in three-point percentage in the entire NBA so what does that tell me they shoot the ball really well top in the league in field goal
Percentage and top of the league in three-point percentage but that leads to my bad you want to throw the bad up there here’s the bad they’re 26 and three-point attempts so they shoot the hell out the three but no one has told them to shoot you shoot it great but you
Don’t shoot it enough and so this is simple things that I think lead to focus and execution you can’t be that good at shooting the ball and not shoot the ball and I if they they correct those things G they get that number up to about 38 to
40 yeah makes a world of difference and the last thing I’ll say on this point is I believe their record is now seven and one when they actually shoot 43s because they’re very good at it so shoot more thre son simple as that I actually have one
That’s kind of similar okay you go next well listen in the in the spirit of optimism let’s go with the good the suns are shooting 41% from three against the top four teams in each conference averaging 30 attempts per game that’s pretty good hey I’m cool with that uh
However uh oh the suns are six and seven against those teams and in those losses are being outshot from three by 10% 35% % to 45% like the other teams are getting up more and they’re hitting more like that’s not good so listen you you
Know you you got to improve and as Flex said you got to get more shots up from three like I don’t I don’t understand this fascination with the mid-range not now not today not if you want to win a championship you better start jacking them up especially when you’re shooting
So well from Deep two like fourth and from in field goal percentage right Fifth and three-point percentage in the league like you’re it’s not like you’re just jacking up threes to jack up threes like you’re shooting well so there should be no reason not to up your volume of attempts and it’s crazy
Because the average attempts for those other teams is somewhere around the 38 to 40 range the average attempts for us in that 13 game stretch is only it’s like 29.9 they only they barely get 30 attempts per game against the best teams in the league like you got to get up
More like it’s just it’s unacceptable and it’s almost just pure negligence at this point like you got to get them up you got to get them up great word negligence yeah what do you attribute it to Kevin young sorry my bad my bad that was a straight KY my
Bad he just came out High I mean listen man you gota somebody’s got to tell them like you know I’m sure they talk about it and I’m sure they’re they’re emphasizing it but like listen man you got to get them up you gotta get them up and I think they’ve been so conditioned
Listen Devon Booker’s played a specific way his whole life and for for him to just switch over to being a more dominant three-point shooter that’s gonna take time KD has has not been a volume three-point shooter as well but he can but he can’t shoot the three and
He can shoot it at a high clip it’s just again training them and I feel like they’ve they’ve caught themselves in a moment where they realize like the league has transitioned so greatly to the three-point line that maybe it caught him a little bit off guard because of the prior success they’ve had
The last two or three years and now they’re having to almost retrain their brains midseason to jack up more threes because they’re not really that’s just not the way they’ve played their whole life they they’ve taken the smart shot they’ve taken the best shot that they can get and unfortunately in these
Instances unless you shoot 60% from that mid-range the other teams are going to beat you and that’s go no I just want to add a point to that cuz you went directly at K Kevin young I thought that was funny but but but I
Have no idea I just there I I will say this uh if I had to pinpoint why they’re not shooting enough threes I think they’re getting Bamboozled a little bit I really do I and and I and I mean that by yesterday’s film showed me something pop made an
Adjustment and pop gave them this false this this false sense of hope that they can run the offense through nerk and it’s almost like defenses are starting to trick them into the midrange we’ll give you that look at that nice little sweet spot book take that that’s what
You do hey KD same thing you go there we’re not gonna press that too much we gonna let you and invited and you gonna hit a couple and you’re gonna feel good about continuing to invite it but in the long run I’m stopping you from getting three-point attempts and I’m going to
Put up more and that’s how I’m going to beat you I do feel when I look at the tape they’re being tricked a little bit I saw Greg papovich do that with the seven second uh seven seconds or less Sons Amari averaged 40 for the series and everybody was running around saying
What a great series Amari had and little to do they know that they were ban boozo pop said let Amari dunk everything Quint Richardson ain’t taking 700 threes uh Nash ain’t taking all them threes Sean Mar so I feel like to answer the question they’re going to have to get
Out of getting enticed into the mid-range and say no we’re not getting Bamboozled anymore man we know we got to put up more threes and so that’s just my view on it from looking at T I can’t help but think if what’s his name big
Time on uh LA radio no no no no uh He Got Game he was like yeah if be calling me come on in Jesus like that’s he was talking about something different but go in there shoot that midrange and that’s that’s what NBA defenses are
Going to do now too and it’s it’s it’s a product of the way that they play Because all three of these guys are used to if I have a mismatch I’m going to attack that because that’s a good play for for me and for our team but I it
Feels like there does need to be a little bit more of a firm hand when it comes to no like we need to because when they run sets when they run their actions like they’re impossible to stop when the ball is moving when it’s swinging that’s when they’re generating
The threes you’re not generating a ton of Threes out of ISO or you know KD on the on the Block unless there’s a shooter one pass away ready for that double team like the ball is not moving ideally in those circumstances so I think that’ll help them when we
Transition the playoff ball and you need to hunt for those pigeons in the playoffs but like right now this is not a team that’s built for regular season success because they’re not getting it’s just the simple math of it you’re not getting up enough threes despite being a
Really good shooting team and they take some of the toughest shots in basketball and are still to your step one of the best shooting teams from the floor and from three so imagine if they just start generating more open looks how Unstoppable that offense is going to
Be yeah and to your point too of last night you guys brought up how when you look at Grayson Allen and and Eric Gordon and how many attempts they’re getting and how many points they have at the end of the game is a little bit indicative of how well the ball has
Moving and the flow of Sun’s basketball and we didn’t get to see too much from them last night at all and then um to that point there was something where I was going with that oh I would love to know the stats I’m going to look this up
After the show and see if we can find it I would love to know the stats of how like what is the threshold of Threes attempted by EG or Grayson um maybe you could put Royce O’Neal in there but you’d have to kind of separate it out from once he joined
The team and like the amount of attempts the sons have had and wins got like I would love to have a barometer of those two guys specifically yeah and how much of a difference that makes can i g i got a qu cuz you you you follow the stuff
Closely we talk about the sun’s turnovers and a lot of times they could be attributed to overpassing correct yeah another thing that I notic when I watch the tape is that to my point I think they’re getting baited into the mid-range a little bit and I think that
There’s times that they realize it and that’s where the overpassing comes yeah it’s like okay cuz how many times this week did we see bradby or two feet from the basket you should just take a layup and steady he tries to force that a pass somewhere else and it’s almost like
Something in their head says y’all are falling into it again don’t do it and then that turnover comes so I this is why I’m screaming inside like this is so fixable guys like they’re not as far as it looks but they got to get out their
Own way and they just have to figure some things out yeah and one of those things they got to figure out is taking care of the ball a little bit more so I’m going to start with the bad stat sure the suns are 25th in turnovers right now this season averaging
14.9 per game but on a kind of good note on my good stat the Suns have a 12 and or 20 and 12 record when committing less than 14 turnovers this season so their 25th in turnovers at 14.9 but if you just limit it by like one and a half two
Your middle of the back now yeah so so we’re not asking for much is what we’re saying here and that that small margin can make a world of difference so just just one or two less yeah simple as that it’s one or two bone head plays a game
Eliminate Focus it’s different yeah the the difference between ordinary and extraordinary is just that little extra they’re extraordinarily awful when it comes to turning the ball over so how about we stop it’s a thin line no Lind I I love I mean we were talking a little
Pregame and when I saw the angle you were going I loved it because it’s something past couple days I’ve been looking at I’m like just the other day right they went to 149 after yesterday but going into yesterday at 14.1 and I’m sitting here and I’m like
Man if you just go to I know I know I know it’s a lot but if you go to 121 just two turnovers that puts you in the top eight in the NBA MH so it it’s like it’s just one or two plays Lindsay’s right it’s just if you could turn that
14 to 13 I wonder what that record would be you said that 20 and 12 when they at 14 or less less than 14 13 or less yeah yeah so 13 or less less than 14 13 or less 2012 okay I mean yeah I wonder yeah it’s like yesterday did they have
15 yes they had 15 yesterday honest honest question m is it fair to say that if you had 14 turnovers yesterday you win that game or if you you have the potential it a two-point game on the last possession and and one turnover that turnover we’re talking about
Probably led to a basket on the other end they gave up like 17 or 19 points off turn there was one in particular where they got a turnover Brad got a steal and then was on a break with k 2 on1 and gave it right back up yep right
That play right there if they just finished that two of the best players in the world yep finish that turnover maybe you don’t lose yesterday but whatever maybe Gerald what you got good and bad all right so mine is going back to continuity and Reps because that’s my
Thing this year uh let’s start with the good stat so the good stat is that the sun starting five has a plus 8.2 net rating and that is seventh in the NBA among all five man lineups that have played at least 350 minutes together this season so when the sun starting
Five has been on the court they’ve been really good they’ve been one of the best fiveman groups in the NBA unfortunately as we will see with the bad stat of the 2003 man lineups that have played at least 600 minutes together the Suns big three ranks 70th in net rating 182nd
In minutes played together and 198th in games played together so I I narrowed it down to 600 minutes for those three-man lineups because I wanted to see okay this is the suns are at like 600 and some with their big three on the court so where do they rank a net rating well
They’re not great they’re good but they’re not great where do they rank in time spent together damn near near the bottom of the pack which is wi yeah that is the biggest thing for me like I I know that this team should be better two things can be true at once this team
Shouldn’t have lost so many games when they only had two of The Big Three available like there were games that they lost that we were like doesn’t matter that Bradley Beal was out or that Devon Booker was out they should have won that game but at the same time their
Fundamental problem is that they haven’t had their guys available like and we knew that this could be an issue we knew that’s why I kept saying from the start of the Season we need like 60 games of these dudes together at least for me to feel confident about them we’ve gotten
31 games of it like it’s just it’s not enough and you’re going to struggle against the Denver Nuggets of the world or even you know the Minnesota Timberwolves or Oklahoma City Thunders who have been together for the last season or two that is a tough thing to overcome I disagree I disagree high
School basketball season’s 32 games long they should be able to figure it out they’ve had a whole high school basketball season high school basketball season man what are we doing with our Lives 25 and six that’s not much ask sh out goodness well Gerald that’s sad it is it is because
Despite all of that if they just take off one to two bad turnovers per night and if they just get up threes like they can overcome all of that because they’re they’re 26 and seven when they at when they tie or win the three-point battle in terms of Threes made 26 and seven
When they lose the three-point battle they’re 16 and 23 like just you just have to tie your opponent in made threes to give yourself a chance and you can win those games you know what what stressed me out about this exercise was that we we were all everyone was doing
Their research and I’m sitting here and I’m going through a ton of stats and God the Sun stats are not bad like they’re good in so many major categories they’re like top 10 in a whole bunch of [ __ ] that tells you that’s a championship team but yet the
End result the Lost column ain’t making sense and so I didn’t have enough time I I was I was chopping up true transparency Lindsay cut me off she doesn’t know this no no no no no no no I’m keeping got thrown under no no it wasn’t it
Wasn’t about that I was in the middle of looking at something and then I think Lindsay asked a question I got but the point I was trying to make I was looking at games at the Suns lost five or less and I was only like maybe twoth
Thirds of the Season through and I was at 12 I didn’t even finish counting but I’m sitting and I’m like that’s two possessions man they lost 12 this there’s more I’m sure of it I didn’t finish counting right but I got to 12 and I’m looking at the games and I’m
Like damn man like if you just let’s say the number’s 15 and you just curved let’s say you stole five of those where are you you’re like a whole different situation you’re like third in the west yeah that [ __ ] is insane to me I know we’re looking at the entirety of of of
These games right because we didn’t single out any quarters but uh and I was I I should have done this I should have looked at their fourth quarter efficiency oh you know um because like for all the great things that the sun’s off you know on paper and statistically the
Fourth quarter is quite the opposite of all of those categories right and that’s been their demise that has been their demise this season like even with the turnovers even with the threes like in the fourth quarter if they could just figure their [ __ ] out they’d probably
Win a a majority of these games but for whatever reason they go to defunct mode and just they forget it’s like the [ __ ] there’s a glitch in their head or something the boogy man the fact that they are 12 games above 500 despite being arguably the worst fourth quarter
Team since they started tracking those stats in the history of B is crazy and I think it also speaks to you’re hoping that because they’ve been up by double figures in some of these games that they go into the fourth that it’s just a product of like the first Spurs game was
They were up by 2530 and so they lost the fourth quarter so that hurts your net rating but like the game was over they’ve had several of those but you’re right there have been too many games especially early in the season where they were up and then they just let it
Slip away and you cannot do that at all if you have a lead in a playoff game like going into the fourth yeah yeah it’s imperative absolutely I you get to the playoffs listen if they’re in the playin or in they’re they’re in that 36 range like that first game when they hit
That fourth quarter it was going to be a lot of tightness around here there’s going to be a lot of anxiety and you just know you just know that they’re going to be thinking about that and so they’re going to have to have a game listen if there’s nothing else that
Comes out of these next 10 games they have to have a game where they rise up and overcome in that fourth quarter and prove everybody wrong just so that way they can prove to themselves that they can do it I think that’s the bigger thing is like even though I think this
Team is confident just in general I do think there is something to be said about having an extra boost of confidence knowing that you can do it because have we seen that at all this year like a big fourth yeah like when they’re down that’s what I was
Just about to ask you so how much of that is between the ears because it’s like they have these fourth quarter collapses when they’re playing well and they just let the game go but I’ve been I’ve seen plenty of examples where they’re going into a fourth quarter down
And they make a big run and they come back have we had a big fourth quarter that was dominant with Sao outside Chicago Milwaukee the other night see they made a run I’m having short-term memory just blocked out all the good parts it’s it’s like it’s hard
To figure this team out and it goes between to me it’s between the ears it’s some type of psychological glitch that they just have to get through because I know they can do it like I know they’re good enough to do it it’s just a matter of actually getting the damn thing done
And then I I do hope this in the playoffs you shorten the rotations the minutes change you may get lineups in the fourth quarter that you would never dare play in a regular season because you don’t want to burn somebody out but you probably get that and maybe that
Helps in the fourth quarter I don’t know but I will say we haven’t had like a disastrous fourth quarter where we P looked at a game and said that’s the reason they lost in a while which is good and I think part of that comes with being able to iron out the bench
Rotation a little bit more because for especially in the early portion of the Season you were just trying to figure out who the hell you could throw out there and who was going to be on the trade block for you know the first two three months um now I think there’s a
Little bit more continuity there than we’ve had but it’s one of those things that you could easily see pop up again and be like damn it we hadn’t we hadn’t heard from that Achilles heel in a while yeah H I don’t know all I know is for
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You want to take these ones sure uh basketball culu understands these things take time at least continuity is being built I’m thinking 48 and 34 for the season 2014 Vibes o that’s not good I hope not that team missed the playoffs they most win at the time most wins ever
And then the next one is the curse of cthulu is real between Washington Portland Detroit and Golden State everyone from last year’s team has turned their new squads to Great Mighty Poo so is the curse of cthulu just a son’s thing that it are we the only ones that
Have to deal with based on 56 years of experience I would say yeah yeah I need to know who who caused this like who upset cthulu in first place who who made us have the curse it’s a good question uh Colton sent us one with the salute Emoji thank you Colton appreciate you
Being here and then black Mason sent us one as well and they said who in the world made this schedule this has got to be the hardest last 10 games in the history of the NBA thank you for all your dedication appreciate you I mean it’s not easy last 10 games that’s true
Man you’re not like it man I I I I just feel like having control of your own destiny at this time is always preferred I don’t want to be the team that’s got to win game 10 and then hope two other teams lose yeah like you really have it in
Front of you if you could just win some of these games you can chop down some trees yourself so I like it I’m I’m not that uh I’m optimistic I I like it in the sense that it’ll give us a real like up close look at what
This team and we’ve we pretty much know what this team is already but like right before the playoffs we’re going to have a real good idea of what to expect um because right now I think we’re vacillating between oh wow look at this team look how good they look and then
It’s oh God we lost to the Spurs for the third time so yeah all right guys this segment is brought to you by Eric Ruby behind the ma we play Tri here to have some fun on this Tuesday afternoon Eric what have you prepared for us at I looked at uh stats basically
From just this season alone so we’re not going to dig too deep I’m a little worried that some of them are too easy for you so we’ll start with one that I think is relatively easy but don’t let me down guys okay question number one
How many games has one of a non big three member or Grayson Allen led the Suns in scoring so first question is how many games has that even happened and question number two is can you name who did it uh I am going to say three
Times and two of them were Grayson one of them was nerk no Grayson Allen yeah oh not say okay then one ner one nerk yeah I feel like that might be it hold on maybe twice I I’m trying to think of I’m gonna say I’m gonna say I’m going to say twice
I’m going to say EG EG and nerk we’re going to go two times e okay I’m just going n i I’ll ride with FX the answer is happened two times once was December 1 Yousef nurkic put 31 points on Nicole jokic’s head in Denver and the second
Time was January 29th against Miami Eric Gordon scored a team High 23 points so you guys got that well Flex got that right sa you were the only one who held out I’m sorry uh here’s question number two though sa you can go first it’s just a this or that who has
Taken more total shots this season Yousef nurkic or Grayson Allen oh Yousef yeah I’m a roll of nerk on that one I feel like it’s a trick question it’s tough but I wouldn’t my inclination is to lean nerk but I feel like it’s a trick question think about
How many times at The Rim nerk has missed a layup and got his own rebound that’s his shot attempt each time I’m I’m going with Grayson I feel like it’s a trick question I kind of want to say it’s grayon there’s been times when Grayson has like two shots I know but
Then there times where he has like 17 he he’s going to shoot he’s he’s plus 353 alone I know that I was looking at I was looking at it the other day he’s creeping up on 4003s alone that’s not counting the rest of his shots yeah I’m
Going with I’m going with my man Grayson he takes more shots than nerk I think yeah I’ll go Grayson but I think it might be close it’s actually extremely close they’re only separated by Two Shots 582 shots to 580 Grayson Allen takes it over Yousef nurkic all right [ __ ] you
Eric fair enough it was a tossup all right guys uh question number three suns have won 42 games this year uh it seems like less but they have won 42 games how many of those wins have been by double digits and how many of those wins have
Been by 20 or more points oh my two goodness hold on hold on hold on 42 so I’ll say out of the 42 double digit I feel like 16 yeah I was going to say somewhere in 15 range I’m going say 12 that’s what I was thinking 12 it was
The first time but I don’t want to copy you so I’ll go 13 and then by 20 I’d say five I would say six so I I say 12 and six I’m gonna go 13 and nine I’m saying 16 and five okay I’m going to say 20 by double
Digits and then I’m going to say 20 oh okay and then I’m gonna say nine by 20 or more okay you guys might be surprised by this 24 of the sun’s 42 wins have been by double digits I believe Flex nailed the 20 or more it was five wins
By 20 or more so it had 20 two double digit wins 2 24 wow okay not again not as bad as we think right this is crazy are we gonna end up in like revision not not you know when you’re too close to it that you can’t yeah you
Can’t take a step back and look at the big picture are we going to end up having that moment no okay in the moment this is exactly how it feels is it as bad as we think I think how it finishes will make us I think if they make a run
To the Western Conference finals and compete and you know get knocked out I think we can look back and be like Dam you know maybe we’re a little too harsh in the regular season they weren’t as bad as they were it’s either that or this is going to be the most the most
Complex team of all time if they get bounced in like the playin or the first round you look you’ll look back you’re like dude the numbers tell you it should not have gone like this yeah you’re right speaking of numbers here’s the last one this is by far the weirdest one
So bear with me out of these four players who has the most total steals this season for the Suns BB Nasir little Sabin Lee or chimzi metu I’m riding with B I’m riding with bu come on give me bu B all day oh man I might go bull just by default but
Man this is gonna sound really I’m going I’m going n i mean he did play quite a bit at the beginning of the season and didn’t yeah so they kind of reverse that’s true I hope it ain’t my boy with the beautiful jumper no way I feel like it’s
Going to be someone I’m I’m going it probably is probably is I’m going n though well you guys will be sad to know that Bub is actually in last place out of all those players bullbull this is why I picked the stat has only recorded six steals for this entire
Season Sabin Lee Sabin Lee has seven seven steals for Sabin Lee in third place is Nasir little at 10 leading the way by far Chi metu 19 steals lapping the competition we got we chamei the glove you know this D was out here straight up Rob 19 whole steals it was
Probably because of early in the season he played more than any of those three I would imagine that’s yeah good for I should have known that cuz this guy he that was he’s a trickster sometimes a trickster that was a question for your guy I know it’s my guy I he’s probably
Pissed off at me like what are you doing I’m disappointed in you for I got magical hand that’s hilarious is that the last one that was super fun thank you Eric for putting together a little Sun’s trivia for us cheers to you but make sure you’re cheersing with our
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Yep but let’s round out the show looking at the Western Conference standings and games to watch tonight so we got the Suns fli to eth obviously with the loss to the Spurs there they are half a game back from Dallas and Sacramento in that seven and six spot
They are still two and a half up on the Lakers I think they’re only two up on the Wind column on La now uh and they’re still five up on the Warriors so they’re not going to fall out of I don’t think they’re going to fall out of the top
Eight but with this 10 game stretch coming up uh they got to put in some work here yeah you got you got you got to at least go four and six in this last 10 like man I know that’s I mean that’s asking that’s not asking a lot four and six should happen
Yeah uh with this team so but if you find yourself in that two three range you you might end up looking at that 910 spot all of a sudden especially if the Lakers can can find a way to win some of these games down the stret so that would
Be disastrous if they fell out of the top eight like just being in playing is bad enough but like if if they go four and six like sa just said they’re playing team yeah they they’re 100% playing team right I think five and five honestly still think just playing 500
Bar they’ll still be a playing team I I think six and four minimum is is what they need to potentially be at six that’s minimum that’s and that’s hoping you got be the that’s exactly you you need you need the Kings and the Mavericks these two games
To go perfectly in your favor and so that’s why I’m saying seven and three is where you want to be you got to get to that six spot um and at the V at least here’s another thing that people need to understand like the seven eight thing is
Tricky but it’s more tricky if you’re eight like if if you tell if you’re seven at least you guaranteed two home games to win one but if you eight you lose that 7A game you’re going to you’re going to you know you mess around you might mess around you still
You’ll be home for that game but you mess around run into LeBron or Steph and yeah we might be going to Puerto Rico early this year me I’m saying might I’m like what road trip uh all right guys well thank you all for hanging out with us uh
Brent hilarious moment in the chat said Lindsay chokes on her words more than bub get Steals and Then followed up and said as soon as I made that joke I started coughing out of nowhere it’s karma hilarious all right well thank you guys for hanging out with me sorry about
The coughing fit uh I’m working on I’m trying to get it all out but they’re still a little bit lingering from that one time that I died like three weeks ago not even two weeks ago yeah this show’s over year this show is over y
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The Phoenix Suns, Kevin Durant and Devin Booker have 10 games left in the 2023-24 NBA regular season. How will they finish? What lessons can the Suns learn from their loss to the Spurs? Plus! On today’s PHNX Suns podcast we’ll have some fun with Suns trivia and we’ll look at the Western Conference Standing and games to keep an eye on tonight. Join us for the latest around the team and don’t forget to follow the show on social @PHNX_Suns.
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1:00 Injury updates on Bradley Beal and Jusuf Nurkic
5:30 What lessons can the Suns take from their Spurs loss
13:30 What will the Suns record be through the final 10 games
23:00 Showing good and bad stats we picked from this season
47:00 Looking at super chats & trivia time!
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9 Comments
The Suns are my team also but let's be honest they are not going anywhere, how do lose to a weak underman Spurs team without Victor their best player
stop the lazy passing .
Imagine if we go 42-40 shit gonna be crazy
They messed with the roster too much. Our time passed in 2021
I blame Espo's cookie monster play by play
Suns aren't going to make the playoffs im telling you rn
Lindsy needs vitamins
These folks is loser's mentality fans, especially those 2 in the middle.. they act like they've won 2 titles in a row and it's not a big deal if they don't win it this year 🤣🤣
😢😢😢😂😂😂 NO!