Around the Horn | NBA investigating Raptors’ Porter for betting issue; Celtics should be embarrassed

Around the Horn | NBA investigating Raptors’ Porter for betting issue; Celtics should be embarrassed

Step right up and place your bets kiddos today the NBA does MLB a favor and reminds us that Sports gambling is bigger than baseball and affects athletes across all professional leagues plus the NFL has a new dance to teach us for kickoffs and how those will work and

Let me explain something when yir yogger is in the news yir yogger glorious check mullet will be on this program let’s go around the horn yeah make kidos that you’re of legal gambling age like about 3 weeks what number did yarm Yager wear points if you know it 66 68 wrong

68 we had questions there were no answers but there was a statement yesterday in Los Angeles sh Otani spoke to reporters with the help of his new interpreter will iron the previous person in that employee epe mahara is accused of stealing millions of dollars from the Dodgers two-way star a

Situation that triggered a federal investigation into mahar’s involvement with the California bookmaker Otani says he was robbed and lied to uh e has been stealing money from my account and has told lies so I never bet on baseball or any other sports or never have asked somebody to do it on my

Behalf Major League Baseball has opened an investigation and last night at Chavez the man from Japan went 0 for two with a walk and a loss against his former team the Halos Tim you’ve seen a lot of baseball in your life where are you with this story right now and what do you

Believe I’ve seen a lot of baseball Clinton I’ve been around a few gambling stories I do not think this will turn into Pete Rose and the Dow report and we’ll be talking about his bets for years uh as as it keeps him out of the Hall of Fame for for another decade or

So but uh first I’m uncomfortable anytime there’s a press conference and there’s no questions allowed uh that leads to a little bit of skepticism I don’t doubt Otani at his word I have no reason to have I have no knowledge of what he was what he was doing I do know

That this is regardless a horrible day and a horrible way for Major League Baseball season to start your feature guy on your feature brand at least the West Coast version of the Yankees the newor the Los Angeles Dodgers and all the great things he might do there for

The next decade and for a while we’re going to be talking about whether or not he gambled and B and if he didn’t how he lost so many millions of dollars uh that that’s that’s an awful way to start David Dennis Jr yeah maybe I’m naive here I also

Believe Otani even you know so far they’ve shown that none of the bets were about baseball itself so it seems like he’s in the safe zone I’m not one who is going to you know sort of hand ring over the betting especially when we have a culture that we have now where people

Before they listen to this show probably listen to podcast about this topic that was sponsored by FanDuel and all that other stuff this is just part of the ecosystem that we have but I agree with Tim here that this is a bad look for baseball baseball is still not recovered

From the Pete Rose thing that is always over hovering over the sport and now the biggest star that you’ve had in a very long time is just shrouded in this controversy that’s totally avoidable we are not talking about what’s happening on the field social media is going to be

All about gambling jokes and betting jokes never OT does anything and we should be talking about a trans you know a Transcendent player and what he’s doing on the field is it Gutierrez yeah the lack of taking questions here I agree with Tim is the biggest problem because it leaves us

Effectively just guessing listening to the stories that were told talking about the interview that was then disavowed hey that interview was not true and we’re basically saying hey which one of these two stories as the only two options is the most believable and to me

If you look at it I know a lot of people say hey Otani could he not know that this money was coming out of his account which one is more believable that that his interpreter who is in charge of all of his things a lot of his things found

A way to get access to his account and use some of his money to settle his gambling debts or that sh Otani himself has a gambling issue and that despite the fact he’s lived in California for six years and knows it’s not legal there that he would then make these payments

Out of his own account and then choose to ruin the life of his interpreter by blaming him I don’t believe that you go through that level of cover up I believe that it what we had there probably some holes there but the question is for Major League Baseball what did Otani

Know if anything and what can he be punished for if anything and I think those two questions are we’re far from answering doesn’t help when Pete Rose himself is making actual comments on the internet about the Matter Frank is Sola yeah yeah I think Otani lawyered up after his interpreter G granted the

Interview to ESPN and said yes Shi wired money to pay off my gambling debts then the story comes out no no that didn’t happen the money was stolen and you if you want to believe sh Otani and in this case I think a lot of us do CU he seems

Like a good guy and he’s obviously a great player it might be an example of him trying to cover up for his buddy then realizing the trouble that he could get in then he comes out and says well hang on a second this money was stolen

And it’s easy to sit there and say well how do you not know about $4.5 million missing if $100 missing from my bank account I start asking questions but we do know this you look at guys in the entertainment world look at you know guys in sports like uh Kevin Garnett Tim

Duncan they’ve had Millions stolen from him so people that make the crazy money that are young and naive this does happen and I think in this case it could have happened to sh last word Izzy guer here’s the thing Clinton if they are deciding to go with lies this is a

Federal investigation going on into this this uh this Gambler and this uh this this person and so the idea that they’re going to commit to this level of of deception I find very hard to believe it’s a tough situation and whether or not you believe Otani I said said this

Yesterday to me is kind of beside the point as I look at this it’s just a matter of again you can’t have this it’s sloppy it’s embarrassing for everybody involved and that’s the unfortunate part about it it feels like a lot of Goodwill has been lost for somebody that a lot of

People really wanted to like let’s move on nobody would blame you if you had never heard of jonte Porter the undrafted Toronto Raptors front Court man who played at Missouri and fun fact he’s the Nuggets Michael Porter Jr’s younger brother is now at the center of yes another gambling scan

This time involving prop bets on Porter in games this season on at least two occasions big bets on the jonte porter unders resulted in wins when he left both games early due to injury or illness he’s now under investigation by the NBA one word yikes Frank we hate to

See it but what do you make of the NBA being the latest League to have to deal with this mess uh this is a major major issue let’s remember January 26 more money was put on his prop bet and he left the game with a pre-existing injury

Which was an eye injury and the one that that really raised the red flag March 20th it happened again where he left the game this time with an illness and think about it this isn’t a guy I understand his brother makes a lot of money but

He’s not making the crazy money he’s had injuries throughout his c a fringe NBA player making about $400,000 perhaps looking to make a quick buck and let’s face it you know these gambling sites red flags go all all up all over the place for something like this the NBA

Has a big time issue on his hands and I have a bad feeling it’s not going to end right here is he I don’t know how big the issue is Frank okay because part of the agreement as a professional athlete it’s always been whether these gambling has been

Legal or illegal in all 50 states or legal in most of them the agreement has always been hey you play the game legitimately you do not include any of that stuff into the game we can’t question the game now it makes it a lot easier to make these types of bets on

Player props but you could always try to fix a game right I I think you can justify if you’re a player like Porter here justified in your mind saying I’m not trying to fix the game I’m trying to make a couple bucks for some people by affecting my numbers and then

Eliminating myself from the conversation that to me is not the same as fixing games and when you talk about the level of player that would be willing to do this I don’t think you’re talking about you know dozens of minor players if you are going to have a few cases like this

But they’re going to be exposed you expose these things when you when you legalize it and have it sort of uh in this situation so I don’t think it’s going to be that big of a problem I think it’s going to make people players fear to do certain situations like this

Especially because it feels like Porter is going to be made a huge ex is are you saying that you don’t really have an issue with this or you just don’t think this is rising to the level of something the NBA not saying I don’t have an issue

With it I’m just saying I don’t think it’s going to be a grander issue I don’t think it’s going to be on the scale of hey there are players in every locker room making these bets and taking themselves out of games and manipulating games no I don’t think that is the

Greater issue because I think in situations like this they will get exposed there’s only so much money you can put on on those when you start putting a lot of money in these situations they get exposed so I don’t think it’s going to be a similar problem going forward David Dennis

Jr I I happen to think this is a huge crisis for the NBA and the players and coaches themselves are raising the flag about this you had the coach in in in Cleveland talk about getting threats over this you had halberton talking about how he feels like a prop in these

Situations at the same time where League Pass is rolling out where if I watch the game on the app I can put bets as I’m doing that come straight out of my account there is no reason that you should be able to make a prop bet on somebody who’s making $400,000 who has

You know minimal uh impact on the game where he can just go out there and do whatever he wants to do to make people money that four even making $400,000 these are huge 20 $30,000 bets that are huge percentage of the money that he is

Making so there is a risk reward to this and there NBA is lucky that he got caught because these were such big bets these were such egregious moves but if you’re playing garbage time for 5 minutes in the fourth quarter and you want to just two rebounds and your buddy

Wants to bet the under there’s no way the NBA can regulate this they have to figure this out immediately Tim call show how do you see this I would say first of all if you find yourself on your phone late at night laying thousands of dollars on the under on Jon

Porters rebounds and you don’t have inside information you might want to call one of those 1-800 numbers second I would agree with the panelists who contend this is a real problem the whole idea of of fixing games one player being able to do it that’s hard even even if

You’re a good player you might get AB benched you might get in foul trouble but one player can control his own points and rebounds and assist especially if it’s a marginal player th those bets do to me speak of a high risk of of different kinds of involvement you

See guys taking rebounds away from a teammate and you’re wondering exactly what’s going on out there there’re could be a lot of things involved I think those prop bets for individual players who come off the bench those we we might have to do away with those at some point

Frank last word pixable problem and let’s remember those props that was the under and the most money was placed of any player that day on on Porter one thing about what David said in the last two weeks you’ve had Rudy goar say that gambling’s a problem tyres halber JB

Bicker sta if you’re Adam Silver and these allegations turn out to be true you have to dish out some harsh punishment I would think at least a year suspension Iowa City Caitlyn Clark and the Hawkeyes held off West Virginia to advance to the Sweet 16 on the west coast Juju Watkins incredible freshman

Year continued with the Trojans banging Kansas out I just want to quote ESPN’s Charlie cream for this incredible line the last time USC was in the sweet 16 Juju Watkins wasn’t born yet but she has certainly given rebirth to the program end quote also Paige Beckers reminded

Everyone why her nickname is buckets as Yukon got past Syracuse Israel what’s stood out to you last night well a couple things one and it’s not really a surprise basically ever since the fut injury Yukon hasn’t been very deep but their lack of depth was pretty jarring yesterday Paige Beckers

Basically have to attempt to get a triple double every game to beat good opponents but with Caitlyn Clark and Iowa in the same vein those that Supporting Cast of her are going to have to be better if they want to win a National Championship yes uh Hannah

Staly was had a double double but she had four turnover didn’t really handle the ball well zero points from the bench they’re going to have to support Caitlin a lot better if they want to go further this Frank solo give West Virginia a lot of credit they made everything hard for Caitlyn

Clark that’s going to be the uh the strategy throughout this tournament one other thing too I think the women’s tournament has reached a point enough of playing these home games for Iowa South Carolina USC Connecticut you know move it to a neutral site West Virginia had everything going against them in the

Fourth quarter including the referees plus they’re playing on the road I think they should try to even that out a little bit Tim keshaw yeah it does it does make you wonder how that game might have gone at a neutral site I was a little surprised Caitlin Clark couldn’t

Really get shots off other than to get fouled in that fourth quarter got tough but on the good side Paige Beckers who three years ago we thought was going to be the next Superstar and serious injuries kept that from happening she’s back and and that’s exciting to see David

Dennis oh we’re kind of speaking around the thing let’s be direct here West Virginia got hoses by those refs last night 30 to5 free throw deficit Iowa had one field goal made in that fourth quarter and 14 free throws made in that four quarter that’s where points came

From West Virginia deserved better last night but on the positive side USC and Juju looked Unstoppable looked almost just as good as the other USC she was 20 28 10 and five first time that’s happened since 200000 they are steamrolling teams too Watkins Superstar already moving right along more rule

Changes for the NFL this time kickoffs the most dangerous play in the leg is now changed and they’re taking advice from the XFL what a world short version no one can move until either the ground or player touches the football the idea is to minimize collisions and force

Kickoffs to be an act ual play again you’re seeing examples of it here and now we have a new term to you on setup Zone Tim are you buying or selling this new setup this is one of the toughest purchases I’ve ever made Clinton I’m

Going to buy it I think it looks really tricked up and I’m not sure it’s going to work and maybe somebody’s going to figure out a way to round it kick it kick it out into the corner and make it exciting but gosh it just looks like a

Goofy play but the NFL has had a resort to it cuz there’s nothing more boring than touchbacks totally agree David Dennis I I’m selling the complicated nature of this I can’t wait to explain to somebody about a hip drop tackle 15 yard penalty in a neutral safe Zone on a

Kick out trying to under explain what’s going on by week one when these things get complicated it gets tough for players somebody’s going to screw this up terribly and it’s going to cost a team a game in the first three weeks of the season and you do not want that to happen is

He I love the idea of somebody who gave up on the NFL since the Colin Kaepernick situation coming back for the opening kickoff next year say I’m going to give it a chance and like what is this nonsense get out of here NFL look I kind

Of like it it’s something new if you have to continue tweaking it year after year just get rid of it now okay but if it works this season and there’s nothing you have to do to change it cool just and implement it but it’s it’s a more

It’s a less extreme situation to get rid of it altoe than to put all these little gimmicky rules in Frank Sola setup man I’m all for it because it’s for player safety number one and there’ll be a smart coach out there to probably start with Andy Reid that will come up with a

Terrific trick play on that kickoff that’ll work and some of go untouched for about 90 yards all right by saw number three Fallout from the Patriots dynasty documentary series former Pats players have been vocal said they felt duped about the finished product and that their proceed Slants against Bill

Bich throughout the 10-part series were obvious when asked about it Pat’s owner Bob Craft said he was disappointed in the negativity throughout the series but did not address specific questions about the bich portrayal while craft is not a producer for the Apple TV docet series the show used Patriots archival footage

Shared by Craft his close personal friendship with producer Brian graser is well documented David by yourself I I can’t sell I can even know what to begin to sell here he talked about how much he hated the documentary they asked him specifically about bellich portrayal and he deflected to

Something else had nothing to do with it talking about retire you know put him in the Hall of Fame and all that stuff but the part about his pressure that I love the most wasn’t related to the documentary when he talked about Calvin Ridley he said we we did everything we

Could except his girlfriend like the South and we couldn’t do anything about it also uh the quarterback situation may have had something to do with it but next question that was also ridiculous answer sou got something to say is he I watched every episode of this Doc

And Robert Craft did not for a second look unhappy to offer a bunch of negative things about Bill Bel he continuously threw him under the bus and if I’m Bill belch there’s two situations I’m not very happy about how it I was portrayed to have coddled Aaron Hernandez throughout his whole situation

And that the Malcolm Butler decision was perceived as Bill bich making a personal decision to not play Malcolm Butler that question still hasn’t been answered but no Robert Craft feeling bad for Bill bich that’s not a thing Frank solo shocking news Robert Craft wants credit

If you go back to the first um episode of The Last Dance with Michael Jordan he says without Scotti Pippen there couldn’t be a Michael Jordan what do Scotty Pippen only remember that they showed the game where he refused to enter the game that’s part of the story

I get it these things are part documentary part infomercial if you want to watch a good sports documentary go rewatch made in America the OJ Simpson one that tells both sides of the story that was not an infomercial Tim K not really about sport yeah I just have a

Problem didn’t doing up on the Super Bowls we’ve seen the six Super Bowl wins we’ve talked about them for 20 years if you’re going to do a documentary you’re going to focus on some behind thes scenes stuff and as others have said Bob Craft is not the guy you watch on this

That comes out as the villain that would be Bill bellich all right well others have said it Tim I guess we don’t need you here do we gota go you really know Tim I he gone alas no Florida Panthers talk today David Dennis Jr Frank Isa coming up call show losses in quotes

Celtics blowing a 30-point lead to the Hawks Jason Tatum quote we F the game up and we know that Jaylen Brown quote we just took our foot off the gas in the west the Suns losing to the wemy free Spurs Brad Beal quote we came in here

Late in Ed French Vogal quote just unacceptable David which of these losses was in fact the most unacceptable so the Celtics loss was an ugly loss and a ter and a you know concerning Trend but the Suns had to win this game this game kicks you out of the

Playoff tournament now you’re in now you’re below the Mavericks you have to win that game right earlier this month the Celtics flew a 22.4 quarter lead to Cleveland last night a 30-point game in the Cleveland game Jason Tatum a 19 dribble possession last night Jason uh Jaylen

Brown 23 dribbles before taking a bad shot not good Celtics are good Suns to be determined moving right along finally the resolution to our long International nightmare the penguins have located and secured the shipment of the yir yogger bobbleheads no word if Liam niss was called in the missing recovered loot

Will be distributed to fans in early April we call this a Lanza Heist situation in the business Frank all good now or no yeah I live in the capital where things just happen fall off trucks I’m not buying this story I think it was all hype I will say this yamir Yaga once

Gave his bet away when he was moving to a buddy of mine he said here take the bed I don’t want it anymore not bad David uh I have not no bed stories about yamaga but I have been listening to Aaron Rogers podcast and I have a

Conspiracy theory about this this is to drive up the bobblehead Market that’s what all this was about the about bobbleheads no this is all a scam I do not need to know about number 68 cities with beds David Dennis take the FaceTime big bed big bed this morning I read an incredible

Incredible article that happens to be on andscape that happens to be by our fantastic host Clinton y about Ron Washington has been in the um baz leag baseball six decades current uh Angels manager he has been part of at at least 11% of all black players in Major League

Baseball history every black baseball players ever been in the allstar game has been to to him just an incredible Legacy the video of him seeing all the people that he’s impacted is something you have to see just an Incredible video good job Clint thank you David that was

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Around the Horn | NBA investigating Raptors’ Porter for betting issue; Celtics should be embarrassed