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Suns lose to Spurs, McCarthy Draft odds, Fair to criticize the Bills lack of success? | THE HERD



Suns lose to Spurs, McCarthy Draft odds, Fair to criticize the Bills lack of success? | THE HERD

With that Nick Wright joins us live co-host first things first um what did you make of kind of I kind of agree with most of it I I still don’t think Aaron Rogers at 40 with that o line I I hope he gets through the season I would push

Back big on that um other than that I thought most of it I kind of agree with so it’s I I you and I agree on a lot of this at the top first of all when your producers told me they’re like hey before you come on Nick Colin’s going to

Go through all 32 teams win totals I was like so I’m going to be on like 145 so great job by you in motoring through that I I I would have lost a lot of money in you being able to do that in under five minutes so that was

Impressive I totally agree with you on the Jets piece of it I think that the Jets last year were an old injured team and decided to fix that by adding the oldest tackle available the second oldest tackle available an injury-prone wide receiver like I and I just Aaron

Rogers hasn’t been excellent at this point what will wi three years so I agree with your jet skepticism there where we are going to disagree and I hate to do it for the second straight week is your love affair with the Vikings is baffling you’re right Colin

They have a great left tackle they have a sharp coach they might have the best receiver in fact they do have the best receiver in football they are also in a broal division with Far and Away the worst quarterback in that division unless they’re starting a rookie who

They trade up for so they don’t have to start darnold I think you’re a little too low on the Bears I just think everyone and not necessarily you but just America needs to remember the Bears do not have the first pick of the draft the Panthers do the bear the Bears get

It from them the Bears were not the worst team in football they won seven games so I think Caleb coming in and being a three- win Improvement is totally reasonable so I could see the Bears being a 10- win team I also agree with you that I I think they are a

Little too short on the Rams I think the Rams are a there there is a world that exists that the Rams have a better final possession against Detroit in round one of the playoffs and the Rams play in the Super Bowl like I truly believe that I

Think that that Rams team was better than we thought last year and next year even without Donald should be good but at the top of the divisions I tend to agree with you so it’s um the JJ McCarthy thing I said at the top of my show it’s starting to feel like Zack

Wilson where you know you’re like oh he has what a throw at the pro day and oh Harbaugh likes him and it’s like time out he had 22 touchdown passes in 15 games with great protection playing with Lee the best coach it feels very Alabama quarterback where I’m not doubting he’s

A pro but it was not an NFL experience always the best coach always a lead always a run game always protection I’m like guys they haven’t played any games since the season ended how did he go from mid first to potentially the second pick do

You buy that that’s is I no I totally agree with you so here’s where it’s different than Zack Wilson at least from my perspective the Zach Wilson stuff I didn’t understand but I mostly stayed out of because I don’t watch as much college football as you do Colin and if

I was being honest with the audience I didn’t watch a lot of BYU so I’m like I don’t know man like I’m not going to grind all 500 snaps I didn’t watch a ton of BYU the scouts love him I guess I’ll trust him I watched this guy every

Weekend cuz he was on the best team at no point was watching Michigan and like oh man and they’ve got a top five pick at quarterback here’s what I know the game that Harbaugh’s replacement had to coach against Penn State where he’s like I can’t screw this up for Jim I have to

Rely on what I know I can rely on they let the kid throw the ball T they gave him the Jimmy G in the NFC Championship Game treatment they’re like throw the ball eight times and don’t screw it up which to me was telling yes and so I

Just the JJ I’m not saying he can’t be a pro I have just there’s never in my adult life watching college football been a quarterback that I watched more that I was more confident on what their drafty Val would be which is a day two

Pick compared to what it is now with no games change no games taking place I just I don’t understand it I know some folks will be like well when Harbaugh had Andrew Luck he ran the ball Harbaugh let luck throw the ball 30 times a game on that Stanford team yeah

JJ threw the ball 21 times a game and I just so I don’t understand it but it sure seems like if he gets past the top three that there is going to be a team be it Minnesota or the Giants or the Broncos that are dying to trade up to

Get him from Harbaugh at number five with that fifth pick the Chargers have so I guess he’s going to be a top five pick I just don’t understand it you know it’s um I have to be careful lobbing up a whiffle ball for you to hit out of the

Stadium here this is really in your wheelhouse but okay Sean McDermot had a quote at the NFL meeting saying oh yeah it is it’s very narrow minded to say we haven’t been successful since 1967 in the merger Josh Allen has the highest winning percentage without a Super Bowl appearance and this was

Clearly the year that Kansas City was vulnerable and I know Shawn McDermot can coach I’ve always used the Chuck Knox comp I knew he could coach but there’s two levels to coaching the guy that comes in he’s organized and cleans up a mess that’s a good football coach a

Great coach can do that and then have vision and the ability to elevate people and I’m not anti- sea mcder I think he’s category one Andy Reid is category two McVey is category two so when you Hur again I am just lobbing you up a ball to hit this

Is batting practice but your take on mcdermit Allen and the idea that it’s narrow-minded to not say they’re successful yeah my take is Bill’s fans coaches Personnel media everybody sick of fans need to pick a lane if the lane is listen Josh Allen’s a good player and

We’re a good team and there are 25 teams that would love to trade places with us the Last 5 Years so be it you’re right but when I for years have said that’s who you are you’re a good team with a good to really good quarterback I’m

Called a hater I’m called a denier I’m afraid no no no no it’s 1 a 1B Allen and Mahomes the Bills and Chiefs they are the Titans of the league okay well by that standard you failed by that standard in the in your era your rival

Is 3-0 against you in the playoffs your sub Ral the Bengals is one one and0 against you in the playoffs by the standard of the great teams you have absolutely underachieved so either you’re not that good you’re let me rephrase it you’re not that great and you have just achieved what you’re

Supposed to but I’ve been yelled at for years when I’ve said that so it must be you actually are great which means means this has been a massive failure of The Last 5 Years it can’t be both it can’t be this was a success and we’re awesome

That does not exist and if you’re Buffalo here is the hard part Colin I said this to you a year ago and then it happened again each year they get further away 2020 in the AFC title game okay that’s great 2021 the 13 seconds game on the road in

Round two that’s a little bit of a step back 2022 round two blown out at home all right that’s a big step back 2023 fire the offensive coordinator you’re six and six you need a Mad Dash just to make the playoffs only to lose another home playoff game three years in

A row momes or burrow have beaten you in the or four years in a row Mahomes or bur beating you in the playoffs two years in a row it’s happened in your building so what are you are you trying to be you know the the Milwaukee Bucks

Or the Denver Nuggets by by that standard you failed or are you the Philadelphia 76ers look at the MVP caliber star I have look at the wonderful regular season accomplishments and look at everyone else going further in the postseason I for a while have said you

Might be the Sixers but I’m just a hater who happens to be right about the bills every single time so that’s all I’ll say okay so we I want to go to one NBA question so we saw this in men’s tennis where uh Roger feder raidal Novak

Jokovic were all in their Prime at about the same time and men’s tennis along with Serena was really captivating and then feder starts regressing raadal has injuries uh Novak jokovic they all start regressing at a kind of the same time and I don’t think men’s tennis for the

Next several years will feel quite as Dynamic it goes through Cycles in the NBA the Suns with KD are eighth LeBron’s Lakers are ninth Steph’s Warriors are 10 and they have half the MVPs and final appearances in the NBA in the last 15 years and it feels like men’s tennis

There’s a passing of the guard and right now I’m not sure who’s next who’s going to take it you don’t know who’s going to take the torch it’s a passing of the torch with you know you hope Anthony Edwards continues to ascend it’s hard you know it’s hard hard for a player his

Size to be the best player in the league there’s a reason it’s a very very short list of guys under 66 or 66 and under who have ever even really been in that discussion it’s a lot of international players that would nobody questions their basketball ability ability to be

The face of an American sport if you’re not American that’s something that the American Consumer seems somewhat uncomfortable or unfamiliar with at least and this though Colin is where I would put some of this on the NBA because I think some of the marketing and some of what they have prioritized

Has been shortsighted so I will I will use as I often do your and my kind of professional relationship as an analogy seven years ago eight years ago at this point my goodness when I first got hired by Fox and you and the bosses decided

That when you took time off I should get to fill in for you was I defin ly the best person to do those shows the answer is probably not but the company was invested in me and they were like you know what even if this show might not be

The best we could possibly do it’ll be good and we will grow the person more people will know him he will get experience all of these things as opposed to what is the very best thing for this show this day so here’s why I mentioned that the NBA keeps just

Squeezing every last bit of juice from LeBron Steph Durant even though they know that era is ending or has ended and it’s because well Lakers games get the best number Warriors games get the best number yes but maybe when those guys are still here if you shine a bigger

Spotlight on Anthony Edwards on the Oklahoma City Thunder on some of your next generation of guys then the NBA won’t be facing a real Cliff when this old generation retires because I don’t that we have taken for granted Colin because of how well LeBron has played at

Damn near 40 how rare this is Steph is 36 Michael Jordan won his last playoff game at 35 Kobe Bryant won his last playoff game at 33 Stephen Durant are already historically speaking on borrowed time and LeBron’s been on borrowed time historically speaking for five years for those to still be the

Three most marketed marketable popular players is concerning in my opinion for the NBA’s long-term Health yes they need some of the young domestic stars to step up they also need to Prime the audience to know you need to care about the thunder you need to care about the

Timberwolves those guys are stars or else LeBron’s going to walk away one day Katie and Steph are as well and it’s going to be a bunch of European stars in a league that’s not quite as popular yeah it should be noted David Stern was a brilliant marketer when MJ left he he

Chose certain people to be Stars the audience didn’t buy in and they lost 50% of their ratings so it does matter uh networks make bets on people uh leagues make bets on people and I think your your take is um next week I’ll ask you about the Chiefs I wanted to give the

Chiefs since they dominate the sport I do have them number two in my preseason ratings I uh I don’t want to give you you had him number one last week I’ve moved them down they lost a corner who I liked a lot they’re back to two lost Leger

Sne Colin you will never like Sneed more than you do right now all season I was trying to tell you they have the best pair of Corners in football you’re were like ah they’re good now that sneed’s gone he’s an all pro Hall of Famer I get

It I understand we can do Chiefs next week buddy I’ll see you then first things first Nick rright hi everybody it’s me Uncle Colin subscribe here to get the latest from the herd including exclusive behind the scenes videos and more wherever you may be however you may

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Kevin Durant said that it’s “unacceptable” that the Phoenix Suns lost to the San Antonio Spurs. Colin Cowherd and Nick Wright discuss whether the Suns, Los Angeles Lakers, or Golden State Warriors have been more disappointing, as well as the lack of success from the Buffalo Bills in the Josh Allen era. Plus, they discuss J.J McCarthy’s draft odds increasing, and why he could end up as the 2nd overall pick.

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34 Comments

  1. “Suns lose to Spurs” in the title and they don’t say a single thing about the Suns… thanks for wasting 10 mins of my time

  2. Nick was really on point today. Also the NBA has marketed s bit too much towards star players rather than Teams. Now there’ll probably be fans who’ll stop watching who were just fans of only Lebron, Steph, & KD

  3. Bro people dont actually watch games 😂. Everyone brings up the Penn State game, and dont mention that the tackles literally could not block PSU's Edge rushers

  4. Nick, JJ was hurt in that Penn State game. His foot got messed up, could barely jog. But he still played. Funny enough, you saw a similar thing happen in the Rose Bowl (off of which he through a back foot dime to Roman Wilson off a Semaj Morgan fleaflicker).

  5. wish colin would do a little research sometimes and not spew nonsense out about things he doesnt know. Novak is currently #1 in the WORLD. Won, Australian open 19,20,21,23. French open 19,21,23. Wimbledon 19,21,22. US open 23. so 3/4 almost won them all in 2023 which is last year. Totally agree tennis doesnt feel the same but Novak is elite of the elite and you guys need to apologize to every athlete you ridiculed for not taking the COVID shot. The hate you guys have for those athletes is sad

  6. Who is Rafi Nadal. It is Rafa Colin. Wow, his tennis comment was pretty out there. Stick to the NFL and NBA dude.

  7. KD is the most overrated Player of
    All time. He’s never been a superstar like LBJ, Steph , Kobe, Shaq, ETC. He’s maybe ranked in 95-100 best player ever. He’s below guys like Bill Walton, Jerry West, AI, Charles Barkley and many others. KD is only good as the 3rd option.

  8. The NBA also need yo take a page out of the NFL and make their games accessible. I don't have an NFL team but I watch it every week on peacock, Paramount+ and Prime. I don't think any of them shows NBA games.

  9. Can Nick count? Aaron Rodgers was the 2020-21 MVP and the 2021-22 MVP.

    He had one down year — his final with the Packers (2022-23) and didn’t play this past season, his first with the Jets (2023-24).

    His last dominant year (again, MVP) was two years ago (2021-22) not three, and it was due to his 2023-24 injury.

    We are in the 2023-24 offseason right now, so only two seasons have been played (2022-23 and 2023-24) since Rodgers’s last MVP.

    He lies about every QB who is a threat to Mahomes.

    He does the same with Russ. He said Russ was horrible in 2023-24, and that was a lie. He was more than solid, finishing with top-5 and top-10 performances in meaningful stats, and nearly got the Broncos into the playoffs despite Sean Payton intentionally throwing winnable games early on and a few toward the end (notably the Patriots game).

    He claims Russ hasn’t been good in 5-6 years, which is categorically false b/c even three seasons ago was 2020-21, when he had a career year and led the Seahawks to a 12-4 record and the NFCw title in a stacked division.

    The next year (2021-22) he began by leading the league in passing over the first 1/3 of the season before suffering a gruesome hand injury that required immediate surgery.

    He returned prematurely after Geno went 1-3 in his absence but put up great stats considering that he appeared in 14 games but was healthy for only 9 of them due to that injury.

    He had a horrific 2022-23 season, but that was due to a perfect storm.

    Not only was Russ playing injured (unlike what Mahomes would have done, he kept silent about it), his team was badly injured. Lest we forget the biggest cause: Nathaniel Hackett being grossly unqualified to be a HC.

    So, Russ has had one horrific season and two in-Russ but solid, respectable seasons, and other than that put up 9 seasons of pure excellence — even in 2016, when he also played an entire season INJURED!

    I can’t respect a guy who uses his platform as a bully pulpit and a channel for misleading narratives and misinformation.

    Nick Wright is nothing but a biased blowhard with different agendas.

  10. Nick Wright makes a good point about the NBA featuring future stars from smaller markets. But the NBA is smart to feature current stars in the larger market coastal teams to build current viewership numbers in regions where the future stars will eventually move and be playing.

  11. Bradley Beal is the reason why the Suns are not moving up. He makes a lot of turnovers. And he misses a lot of makeable shots. The Suns must trust Allen more.

  12. What was that tennis analogy, how in the world Djokovic regressed when he is still number 1, fed retired and nadal rank is 652……

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